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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: crowMAW on March 04, 2007, 09:56:28 PM
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That was the best BSG yet! WOW!!
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:confused:
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If she's gone for good then so am I
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sniff sniff :cry
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Originally posted by jollyFE
If she's gone for good then so am I
I'm glad she's gone... but I fear she really isn't totally gone... she'll be coming back in dreams to lead everyone to the land of milk and honey.
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I think it's a stupid plot move. She's a lead character and to bring her back would require some addition stupid plot moves. I allways enjoyed seeing her bellybutton shots.
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Rumour is she's not dead.
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great, show last night but stupid to kill off a MAIN character.
maybe the storm is a worm hole or something like that, jumps them closer to earth.
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Too much touchy feely wussy nonsense this season and not enough knockdown drag out fights with the Cylons. This season has been pretty disappointing so far.
She’s not gone by a long shot, but if she doesn’t somehow wake up on a resurrection ship, I can pretty much guarantee the plot line is going to get a lot dumber.
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Well ... we did see her fondling the ejection handle a few moments before her ship went in.
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Originally posted by Viking
Well ... we did see her fondling the ejection handle a few moments before her ship went in.
If the ship couldn't withstand the pressure, then how could she, made of flesh and bones?
She's better wake up in a resurrection ship (or the.. there's only one?). Why else would a Cylon ship come abouts in her imagination.
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Originally posted by Fishu
If the ship couldn't withstand the pressure, then how could she, made of flesh and bones?
because she's a cylon... one of the chosen five...
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Oh yeah, did anyone pay attention to the ship that Adama first saw? It was the supposedly invisible raider. It dissapeared into a cloud right after Adama reacted to it and the next thing he saw Starbucks ship, just prior to the explosion.
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next episode is about Baltars trial, so no miracle rescue next week
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Originally posted by ramzey
next episode is about Baltars trial, so no miracle rescue next week
P: "Is it true that he's claimed to be a Cylon? He is a Cylon isn't he?"
D: "No! We'd like to call in our next witness: Kara Thrace! She is a Cylon, the fifth Cylon."
Voilá, two rescues at once.
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Still a very interesting show. Far better than the original two series and the campy 1980's style they were written in.
Lot's of nice little touches; the population odometer counting down every episode, decent graphics and shipboard sets for the most part, all in all a good sci fi series with a pretty (relatively) small budget. Not exactly "Firefly", but a close second, and lasting a lot longer. Some of the "retro" devices used on set are funny.... seeing very old commo headsets in general use and duce-and-a-half trucks on "New Caprica".... but like I said, very low budget.
As to the plot..... somewhat indifferent. The characters are all very human, but none that really are so strong or stand out for me to have any emotional investment in any one character to that point; well, almost: Kandyse McClure's "Anastasia Dualla" is uber cute. Grace Park's character can always come back as Lt. Sharon 'Boomer/Athena' Valerii/Agathon.
Sort of miss that little firebrand character of Luciana Carro's: Lt. Louanne 'Kat' Katraine.
But I'll get over it.
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Originally posted by ramzey
next episode is about Baltars trial, so no miracle rescue next week
Baltar doesn't need a trial he need to be put in the nearest airlock. Then open the outer door and watch what happens to him then.
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watch teaser for next episode
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Duh, I'll be watching it all week :) you guys on this message board seem to forget, I' a Scifi freak
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Oh dang, missed this episode and you cant seem to view it online :confused:
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I just watched the ending again and her last words included "I FEEL the other side" "they are expecting me"
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She probably will end up cylon or one of the final five. Lucy Lawless (forget the character name) was obsessed with exploring the period between life and resurrection before being frozen... they may continue with that theme. Perhaps the final five haven't any affiliation with humans OR cylons. either that or the season will ultimately become a dissappointment. Hope they don't have another 2981048 month break in the future. :(
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Chances that Starbuck is a cylon are slim imo...I think its a big bait and switch for a reveal for one of the final five (my bet was Dulla, or Gaeta - but its most likely Ellen Tigh)
Tronsky
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If she ejected.... there would be some precedent.
In the original BSG, Starbuck was stranded for years on a planet with a Cylon, if I recall correctly, and that end with some mystical claptrap that brought about the disembodied alien guy in the BSG:1980 series. If she ejected and ended up stuck with a chrome dome and something happened, that wouldn't be entirely dissimilar. - ~~~~
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The Return of Starbuck was the only decent episode of Galactica 80 - it was when a downed Dirk Benedict repairs a chrome dome, and they become friends whilst building a ship from bits of a viper and raider...I can't see Kara Thrace doing the same thing unless it ended with her cutting its throat...
Tronsky
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when the show came out it was a pretty good sci fi action show... no.. a damn good one.. it was filmed in a gritty noir kinda way but not so much to get in the way of the action.
now... it is a weepy, "artistic" soap opera for women to watch that is powered soley by lefty political PC crap when it isn't just reverting to drama queen.
It is almost painful to watch these days.
lazs
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Originally posted by -tronski-
The Return of Starbuck was the only decent episode of Galactica 80 - it was when a downed Dirk Benedict repairs a chrome dome, and they become friends whilst building a ship from bits of a viper and raider...I can't see Kara Thrace doing the same thing unless it ended with her cutting its throat...
Tronsky
They already remade that episode. Remember when Kara flew the raider back to Galactica?
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If you go by the SciFi chan boards theres alot of theorys (sp). The most common is she ejects and is picked up by the cylon ship...that cylon guy in the episode said he wasnt the guy she was living with on new caprica. The boards made reference to "the ship of light" from the 1st series. One of the main cast members was supposed to "find earth" this season, and with only 4 eps left i think ol' starbuck will find it and then reappear next season. Folks were hot on that other board, glad all of us here at AH dont take our game as serious as those guys take their show.....lol
J
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdmo_KCsutI
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Originally posted by Chairboy
If she ejected.... there would be some precedent.
In the original BSG, Starbuck was stranded for years on a planet with a Cylon, if I recall correctly, and that end with some mystical claptrap that brought about the disembodied alien guy in the BSG:1980 series. If she ejected and ended up stuck with a chrome dome and something happened, that wouldn't be entirely dissimilar. - ~~~~
Problem being, she ejected over a gas giant/or heavy atmosphere planet (not exactly sure which), just above the "hard deck" --- the point at which the dense atmo would prevent her Viper from climbing back to orbit, and below that atmospheric pressure heavy enough to crush her Viper (which *should* translate into her being crushed at the moment she ejects.... human/cylon bodies being softer than metal skin of Viper....ejecting under those circumstances should have pushed all of her body up into her helmet).
So, writing they're way out of this one could get a little bizarre.
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unless there was a cylon ship of some sort capable of handling that atmosphere right there to pick her up and make her a prisoner of war.
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Or she's a Cylon, and the whole swirl thing has been an implanted memory, ala Bladerunner and the spider story or Deckard's unicorn dream. Bonus points to anyone who knows what I'm talking about.
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Starbuck better not be a cylon, I'd rather see Baltar stay alive than that.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Or she's a Cylon, and the whole swirl thing has been an implanted memory, ala Bladerunner and the spider story or Deckard's unicorn dream. Bonus points to anyone who knows what I'm talking about.
deckard = replicant :)
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Hey, my last name is Deckard. Really.
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On that video, listen to the rap at the last 45 seconds of the video.
"damn its good to be a Cylon."
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Originally posted by ramzey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdmo_KCsutI
That's AWSOME....good find!
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It has turned into a weepy womans soap opera.
They lost me when they had the fights where tiny little women got in the ring with buffed out men and won the boxing match. silly PC crap.
The only action these days is women beating up men.
lazs
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yes and Im offended by it.
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Originally posted by lazs2
They lost me when they had the fights where tiny little women got in the ring with buffed out men and won the boxing match. silly PC crap.
lazs
Yeah, I found that a bit lame. As if Thrace had enough mass to hurt Adama if she tried.
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plus... have you noticed... the political and military wing go from doing what is right in some instances no matter what to becoming tyrants in others... The writers are using them in out of character ways when they want to make some political point or another.
plus... it is such a dreary socialist lifestyle that you almost wish that the cylons would just finish off all these sorry excuses for human beings. Not an individual in the bunch.
lazs
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Lazs, military organizations and governments at war are usually not big on individualism. Even more so when the survival of mankind is at stake I think.
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Originally posted by lazs2
It has turned into a weepy womans soap opera.
They lost me when they had the fights where tiny little women got in the ring with buffed out men and won the boxing match. silly PC crap.
The only action these days is women beating up men.
lazs
Well you do know theres only so much you can do with the human race running through space fleeing from robots, if they showed them waxing cylons every time it'd get even more boring than if they all sang campfire songs on the flight deck
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vikinggshlotz.. I understand that but the main characters undergo these huge personality changes... to make a point the writers have the president and admiral go from fair and compassionate to hitler in one episode and then back again.
They show em in the trenches with the troops and then the next episode living like roman emperors in luxury while the citizens work 14 hours a day 7 days a week for years... no explanation.. they show em as humanity lovers one week and as class consious only tards the next.
dmf..I disagree. There would be lots of action in a fleet of 50,000 humans all packed together under stress..
You can show that or you can show the weeping and PC crap.. I see which they have chosen and they lost me.
lazs
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I see what you're talking about Lazs... there have been times where the series has developed a flow, then suddenly an episode pops in that appears to be the same show in an alternate universe. It is disruptive, and hadn't put my finger on what bothered me so much, but you're right, it has to do with developing characters suddenly doing something uncharacteristic.
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I really want to like this show, but the writing sucks hard. Way too much drama and not enough action for me, I fast forward through most of the episodes lately looking for the exterior shots.
Good riddance to the worst plot convenience and crutch the writers have if she's gone. Who's the best viper pilot? Starbuck. Who's the best sniper? Starbuck. Who's the best interrogator? Starbuck. Please.
Too much soap opera and not enough space opera.
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another example is the whole firearms thing... in the beggining the survivors of a burned out planet were using hit and run tactics and modern military weapons against the cylons... No explanation on where they came from.... but.. they had em and were holding their own..
later.. the whole fleet goes down to a planet that they have never seen and know nothing about.. and.. no one is armed.. no one. the cylons come and just take over.. virtually without a fight...
No one... none of the writers asks why this is possible.. why the people are allowing themselves to be rounded up and shot or tortured.
on the ship.. it is a socialist police state.. firearms are not mentioned... no one has em but a few marines you see walking around for some unexplained reason or another. They writers just don't seem to know what to do with gun control issues.. they just ignore em... guns get in the way of the weepy drama.
I know how you kieran are thinking about guns these days but let the show sink in... there are no guns in the utopia of the show... but... whenever they are needed.. whenever they are unavoidable to the plot.... they just magicaly appear out of nowhere? when the plot needs em... everyone has em.. when it doesn't.... they are all frigging england or something.
They don't mention guns because they can't explain em without fostering a pro second amendment stance.
lazs
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Lazs... just out of interest...
How many hours a day do you sit there thinking about guns?
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women guns hot rods movies books AH.. they are all hobbies and interests... sometimes I pay more attention to some than others... sorta like the weather...cyclical but unpredictable.
not much in the way of women of hot rods in BSG tho..
lazs
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Laz, you sure have alot to say about a show that you dislike. ;)
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guns... I liked it a lot at first... it is only this season that I started to feel like it was getting bad.. I record the shows to watch later (one of the very few tv shows I watch) and lately... I am finding that I am not even looking forward to playing it.
Used to. not any more. I find the shows depressing and badly done and contrived lately..
I don't mind a little badly done and contrived if at least there is some entertainment but sheesh... I will probly watch a few more to see if it gets better and then give it up.
I bet I'm not the only one either.
lazs