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Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: bzek74 on March 05, 2007, 09:04:03 AM
I finally caved in lastnight and took lancs to TT, nit vh was knocked down I waited and waited..it finally popped. I up once blam I hear a shot from behind..ok..up again blam blam from all around...ok these guys are way deep in spawn Ill up a fighter and bomb em out...ord down...next close base...ord down. So Im faced with flying like 5 sectors...gonna make it worth my while...I up lancs. Over a hr later I have great alt Im at TT...set salvo...drop.....Nada.  Two Morals to the story.

1. Killing ord will probably result in more heavy buffs in TT because range is forced so they can alt.

2. I really suck in Lancs.


90prf
Title: Re: Bombing = waste
Post by: Lusche on March 05, 2007, 09:10:58 AM
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Originally posted by bzek74

1. Killing ord will probably result in more heavy buffs in TT because range is forced so they can alt.
90prf


But how many of those who bomb GVs in TT have the time & patience for such a >30min sortie?

(I do... ;) )
Title: Re: Bombing = waste
Post by: Bucky73 on March 05, 2007, 09:17:33 AM
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Originally posted by bzek74
So Im faced with flying like 5 sectors...gonna make it worth my while...I up lancs. Over a hr later I have great alt Im at TT

90prf



That is FUN for some....
I'm not a tanker or a bomber but bombing tanks in TT is about as lame as strat bombing.:aok
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: bzek74 on March 05, 2007, 09:32:30 AM
I went to kfc and came back...i would go nuts just sitting...I go nuts on fso after 20 mins lol.

90prf
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: FiLtH on March 05, 2007, 09:51:24 AM
With age comes patience.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SkyRock on March 05, 2007, 10:32:15 AM
newb toolshedder:  hey?

Vet toolshedder:  what?

newb toolshedder:  I can't even up in TT because they have it camped!

Vet toolshedder: then bomb them!

newb toolshedder: Why don't we up some Jabo's and fly over there real fast and kill a couple of them spawn campers?

Vet toolshedder:  Why don't we up lanc's, and fly over there slow and kill them all!


:D :aok
Mark
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: hubsonfire on March 05, 2007, 10:48:19 AM
In the time it took you, you could probably have resupped the center island fields and gotten ord back up.

I personally choose not to bomb the VHs at TT, but anything with an icon is fair game.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: bzek74 on March 05, 2007, 10:55:47 AM
I have several times taken it upon myself to run m3's to bases to get ord up...Im done with that team doesnt = solo effort.

I dont think id ever go for a TT vh but it seems like people like taking down nits VH alot if I catch whatever country it is theres odds ill make it a personal mission to keep that countries vh down untill I decide to log...The TT vh bombing is crap, But there will always be that debate.

Lastnight I was getting bombed in TT by guys I never even heard of and never even seen in a GV. I love having my stats killed by a 2 week wonder.

Oh Rondar Im not out to bomb you man its like your a magnet...heck the other night I went to ditch ord to engage a 110 and I get the message you have killed Rondar #1.

90prf
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Max on March 05, 2007, 11:16:56 AM
Pass the KFC around...I'm hungary :D
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SkyRock on March 05, 2007, 11:26:14 AM
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Originally posted by Max
Pass the KFC around...I'm hungary :D

If you're as big as Hungary, you probably need to lay off the KFC for awhile!:D
Mark
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: hubsonfire on March 05, 2007, 11:31:23 AM
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Originally posted by bzek74
I dont think id ever go for a TT vh but it seems like people like taking down nits VH alot if I catch whatever country it is theres odds ill make it a personal mission to keep that countries vh down untill I decide to log...The TT vh bombing is crap, But there will always be that debate.


:lol
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: crockett on March 05, 2007, 11:38:48 AM
I've been playing a lot more as GV just for something different and I still don't get the whole TT deal.  

I tried giving TT a go last night and it just doesn't fit my playing style. When I'm in a tank I want to keep moving and attack ground targets on the move. Seems what most want to do is sit in one spot and cherry pick spawns.

I'm not going to bash them for it, to each their own, I'll agree having to drive to an A base or another V base sucks a bit but so does sitting in one spot spawn camping just to rack up a bunch of free kills. Hell at least if you vulch an airfield in a fighter you at least have to fly the thing.

Only time I will camp a spawn, is if I'm trying to defend a base that's under heavy attack or if it's to take a base. I've spawn camped 2 A bases so far while waiting for more air support to keep a fighter cap.

As far as the whole bombing GV's at TT, I still fail to understand why they feel it's unacceptable to bomb them.  Ok I might find it a bit lame to try to carpet bomb them in a Lancaster or a B24 but  hell when I'm in a GV I figure the planes are there to keep me on my toes.

In fact TT might not be too bad if more people bombed it, would get the spawn campers a reason to have to start their engine. That or get rid of the town and make it like normal terrian with trees and so on. That would at least force people to have to move around to find a fight.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: quintv on March 05, 2007, 11:45:58 AM
being new I dont know about this hot button things without reading forums.

Thanks to this thread Ive just upped some B.24s and am headed for TT as we speak :aok
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Bronk on March 05, 2007, 12:00:48 PM
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Originally posted by crockett
I've been playing a lot more as GV just for something different and I still don't get the whole TT deal.  

I tried giving TT a go last night and it just doesn't fit my playing style. When I'm in a tank I want to keep moving and attack ground targets on the move. Seems what most want to do is sit in one spot and cherry pick spawns.

 


So do just that.  
Spawn move to a spot fire on a campers position.  Reposition and do it again.

Just because a large % do the move to a position and stay put, you don't.


Bronk
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: blackdog68 on March 05, 2007, 12:08:14 PM
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Originally posted by SkyRock
newb toolshedder:  hey?

Vet toolshedder:  what?

newb toolshedder:  I can't even up in TT because they have it camped!

Vet toolshedder: then bomb them!

newb toolshedder: Why don't we up some Jabo's and fly over there real fast and kill a couple of them spawn campers?

Vet toolshedder:  Why don't we up lanc's, and fly over there slow and kill them all!


:D :aok
Mark


LOL, where's Sean Penn when you need him?
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Rondar on March 05, 2007, 12:55:51 PM
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Oh Rondar Im not out to bomb you man its like your a magnet...heck the other night I went to ditch ord to engage a 110 and I get the message you have killed Rondar #1.


Lol man the bombs sure seem to find me.  :confused:   Even when somebody ditches bombs they land on me:cry :furious   Anyways no probs I just like to gripe about getting bombed.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: thndregg on March 05, 2007, 01:28:42 PM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
With age comes patience.


Amen, Filth.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: jaxxo on March 05, 2007, 01:39:21 PM
Originally posted by bzek74
I dont think id ever go for a TT vh but it seems like people like taking down nits VH alot if I catch whatever country it is theres odds ill make it a personal mission to keep that countries vh down untill I decide to log...The TT vh bombing is crap, But there will always be that debate.








rofl..he makes it a personal mission and says its bs in the same sentence. A true sociopath! :lol
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: BlueJ1 on March 05, 2007, 01:54:12 PM
I heart bombs.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: bzek74 on March 05, 2007, 02:16:49 PM
Its called the rage of trying to be fair and decent to gvs in TT. My personal rules for TT are. Doesnt mean this is some written law and might not even be close to how most deal it....TT shouldnt be a huge drama...But like I said the 2 week wonders and a few others really take away from gameplay on the ground.

1. Unless its very extreme no bombers in TT, I take a heavy fighter drop and prepare to fight for my kills...no honor in a TT bail. Ive only taken one bomber into TT and that was lastnight.

2. I wont resort to egging unless Ive at least upped 3 times and if I die in less than 10 seconds of upping each time theres an issue.

3. TT vhs are holy and shouldnt be touched unless its a map strat...Im starting to rethink the whole dont touch vh thing because people are killing vhs for 1. To buy themself time to get a good spot behind spawn. 2. To be a ***.

4. I will strafe tanks facing enemy side to stack on them..Lots do it at least im honest. Which would be another point for a correction of gv damage model. I would rather take the chance in tracking a panzer with cannon then leave and have that same gv i flew over be the one thats behind our spawn when I up.

The only way to really enforce this is have core players agree that whatever country gets nailed whacking vhs basically loses thiers...IE: Capture or Perma bomb.

There has to be a solution in all this debate and whining and I dont see the bases being untakable anytime soon, So it has to fallback on the players...And Jaxxo ( or shall I call you Dr Phil?) its called being ticked off. ( ever been thinking about something and then thought ohh helllll no thats wrong )
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: crockett on March 05, 2007, 02:24:44 PM
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Originally posted by Bronk
So do just that.  
Spawn move to a spot fire on a campers position.  Reposition and do it again.

Just because a large % do the move to a position and stay put, you don't.


Bronk


I move almost all the time while attacking bases or defending them in a tank. However with TT it's a diffrent story, being so many just sit and camp, moving around is asking to get shot. If you move around very much at TT and try to flank the other team, then all you do is run into a camper.

From what I see of TT tank tactics it seems to be either a quick mad dash to get out of the open spawn to a good camp spot so you can cherry pick new spawns and noobs. The other way is a quick mad dash to the town to then just sit and wait  for someone to come running in from their spawn or to get a good position to again just sit and spawn camp.

I'm not trying to bash them, but I say bring up your game to a new level and quit being lazy trying to get easy kills. That's why I say bombing them is a good thing, because it forces the fight into a moving battle. :D

That's why I think it's funny to see these guys that complain about getting bombed at TT. I say work for your kills and quit being lazy trying to land 20 kills by camping on a spawn position. I give more gaming credit to someone whom works and lands 4 or 5 kills in a GV vs some spawn camper at TT whom gets 20 from sitting in the same spot being lazy and milking the game.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SuperDud on March 05, 2007, 03:42:27 PM
I try to kill TT all the time. I figure it's simply repayment because most of the GVers are the same guys that had to ruin fighter town on donut.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SkyRock on March 05, 2007, 10:00:58 PM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I try to kill TT all the time. I figure it's simply repayment because most of the GVers are the same guys that had to ruin fighter town on donut.

SkyRock<-----changing thread to....SuperDud = waste!:aok
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SuperDud on March 06, 2007, 12:51:16 AM
u r teh cvoolerst skyerockooox!!##! NOW GET OFF MYANKLE!!!!
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SkyRock on March 06, 2007, 07:46:27 AM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
u r teh cvoolerst skyerockooox!!##! NOW GET OFF MYANKLE!!!!

You're ankle should be so lucky!
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Lye-El on March 06, 2007, 10:11:06 AM
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Originally posted by crockett

 not trying to bash them, but I say bring up your game to a new level and quit being lazy trying to get easy kills. That's why I say bombing them is a good thing, because it forces the fight into a moving battle. :D
 


Tanks trying to get easy kills against a flight of Lancasters? Or the tanks trying to fight a moving battle against Lancasters? The guys in Tank Town are there to blow up other tanks. Spawn camped or otherwise. They have other bases to be at if their inclination was otherwise.

The bomb guys are there because the air to air guys are usually not, otherwise they would get cut to ribbons and would not want to play in that sandbox anymore. Too hard on their egos.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SuperDud on March 06, 2007, 11:21:50 AM
I have a lucky ankle?
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: quintv on March 06, 2007, 11:32:57 AM
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Originally posted by Lye-El
Tanks trying to get easy kills against a flight of Lancasters? Or the tanks trying to fight a moving battle against Lancasters? The guys in Tank Town are there to blow up other tanks. Spawn camped or otherwise. They have other bases to be at if their inclination was otherwise.

The bomb guys are there because the air to air guys are usually not, otherwise they would get cut to ribbons and would not want to play in that sandbox anymore. Too hard on their egos.


People with  "im l33t "egos don't fly bombers. They fly La.7 and 262s :D
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: hubsonfire on March 06, 2007, 12:09:41 PM
Supe, I think he's implying that he'd like to "get lucky" with your ankle.
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Boxboy on March 06, 2007, 12:43:27 PM
AHH Irony of it all..... I  can remember when AH didn't HAVE vehicles or boats, just planes.

It was a different time when guys actually had to fly, no auto take off, auto trim, etc etc........

sigh oh well time marches on :)
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SkyRock on March 06, 2007, 01:16:42 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Supe, I think he's implying that he'd like to "get lucky" with your ankle.

No I'm implying that SuperDuntz is a dweeb that only wishes I cared enough to hump his ankle!:aok
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Airscrew on March 06, 2007, 02:00:17 PM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
I have a lucky ankle?

yea like a lucky rabbits foot,  a lucky Superdud's ankle on a keychain probably.    and when you think about it, just how lucky is a rabbit's foot anyway,  sure wasnt very lucky for the rabbit...
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: crockett on March 06, 2007, 03:49:25 PM
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Originally posted by Lye-El
Tanks trying to get easy kills against a flight of Lancasters? Or the tanks trying to fight a moving battle against Lancasters? The guys in Tank Town are there to blow up other tanks. Spawn camped or otherwise. They have other bases to be at if their inclination was otherwise.

The bomb guys are there because the air to air guys are usually not, otherwise they would get cut to ribbons and would not want to play in that sandbox anymore. Too hard on their egos.


No I'm saying if they are getting bombed then it's in their best interest to keep moving or go pork the ords on the sounding base. For just about every attack in this game there is a counter attack.

Personally I think I could could count the number of times I've been bombed by a plane while in a GV on one hand, but then again I rarely ever sit in one place camping.

I've actually had my engine shot out by planes strafing me, more than I've been bombed by planes.  As long as you are a moving target and watching the world around you it's fairly easy to avoid most bombs.

While I agree it's lame to go carpet bomb a bunch of GV's at TT, but if it's happening, then they do have the tools to stop it. If I'm trying to save a base that's getting pounded by bombs, I'll do my best to pork their ords. Why is it guys at TT can't do the same? That or they could simply keep moving. If they know it's the bish or who ever that always bombs TT, then the other two teams should make it a point to go pork their ords.

While I do understand that not everyone camps in a GV, but it is a fact that's the way most of them play at TT. So IMO a sitting target is a easy target and some noob or someone who is sick of getting spawn camped is going to come bomb them.

I have nothing really aginst guys who want to sit and camp at TT, to each their own, but I just get tired of hearing people complain about this or that at TT when in fact most of the times they have the ability to stop the issue.

How hard is it to put together a quick mission to go pork some ords? How hard is it to defend your base if it's being attacked?
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SuperDud on March 06, 2007, 03:56:29 PM
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Originally posted by SkyRock
No I'm implying that SuperDuntz is a dweeb that only wishes I cared enough to hump his ankle!:aok
SkyRock<-----owns the whole my little pony collection!
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: Masherbrum on March 06, 2007, 06:07:38 PM
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Originally posted by Max
Pass the KFC around...I'm hungary :D


But you'll get chicken farts!
Title: Bombing = waste
Post by: SkyRock on March 07, 2007, 07:52:00 AM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
SkyRock<-----owns the whole my little pony collection!

even the pink one named superDuntz!