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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on March 05, 2007, 02:50:28 PM
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So, this past week-end I stop at our local Coffee stand for some hot tea before we hit the pass for some night skiing. A H2 with "bling bling" wheels (1 " of rubber, 28" of wheel, you know....) (http://www.hummerhub.com/images/Wheels,Tire%20&%20Carriers/24/Blingzwheel.gif) had just pulled up and parked next to us (this is not a drive through place) He's looking back the FJ while walking up to the stand, staring at my FJ's rear end.
I thought perhaps he was admiring the huge "Tonka" sticker on my rear window, but when he spoke to me he said:
"What is that hitch thing and the loop thing for?"
Me: "Its a D-shackle, you know, a recovery point for a recovery strap.".
Him:"What do you use it for?"
Me: "To pull H2's out of the ditch".
He just grinned. I paid and walked back to the FJ.
Game, set, match.
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I think its funny that there are so many that customize vehicles that are made for off road use and make them useless for off road. Its almost a shame to see a hummer that will probably never see mud or even a dirt road for that matter. Can you imagine some one takin the Caddy or Benz out for a romp in the mud? I put pretty wheels on my F150 4X4 and some guy actually said I should have put the 20 inchers on instead of the 16s. I dont think I could stand the ride if I had done that. Fords ride hard enough as it is. I do wonder if the large wheels will handle the loads or pulling that I do. :D
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Your word is Irony.
Can you define it please?
Irony - The driver of a Toyota thinking he one upped a driver of an H2. Irony.
Location of origin please?
Latin.
Irony. IRONY.
I-R-O-N...
Y?
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Your word is Irony.
Can you define it please?
Irony - The driver of a Toyota thinking he one upped a driver of an H2. Irony.
Location of origin please?
Latin.
Irony. IRONY.
I-R-O-N...
Y?
I think you may have missed the point. that was funny rip.
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It wasn't planned to come out that way, but when the H2 came pulling in, I couldn't help but think how worthless those tire/wheel combo was in our area.
We're at 700 feet in the foothills of the Cascades and we're garanteed snow at least twice a year, and black ice about 2 months out of the year.
I counted 3 SUV's in the ditch the last snowfall we got, coming up the hill to Lake Tapps...and all 3 had bling bling tire/wheel combos. I guess the "4X4" sticker lulled the owners into thinking that they were safe to go out in icey conditions. :)
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:D
well done.
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I once saw a SUV that was jacked to the sky but had low profile tires...:rofl
What's up with that?
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Since laser was quoted (I do have him ignored) I'll respond.
Laser, if you actually got up off of your chair and relieved your rear end, you'd realize you know not what you speak of. You merely parrot "opinions" that have been passed on to you. Example: You "think that the H2 is something of a status symbol". You're wrong, it is a $50,000 Tahoe. The H2 was the problematic vehicle for 3 years. It is a pile of chit. It will continue to be a pile of chit.
My buddy's Jeep pulled an H1 out of axle deep mud. Hummers are steaming piles of cow watermelon in most of the trails. I've seen H2's snap knuckles like twigs rendering them useless. Folks like yourself drive Hummers, you think you're the cat's meow in a dog eat dog world.
Ripsnort, most excellent. I despise tools that throw 20-28" wheels on a 4wd vehicle. It is pointless, well, unless your (said with a lisp) "lasersailor".
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Hey, I didn't want to get a brand-war going here (didn't know Sailor drove a hummer), just thought it was funny and a good "zing" as boys will be boys, ya know! :) If it was a Ford Expedition with Blings on, I would have given him the same answer! :) (And I own a Ford F250HD 4X4!)
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Since laser was quoted (I do have him ignored) I'll respond.
Laser, if you actually got up off of your chair and relieved your rear end, you'd realize you know not what you speak of. You merely parrot "opinions" that have been passed on to you. Example: You "think that the H2 is something of a status symbol". You're wrong, it is a $50,000 Tahoe. The H2 was the problematic vehicle for 3 years. It is a pile of chit. It will continue to be a pile of chit.
My buddy's Jeep pulled an H1 out of axle deep mud. Hummers are steaming piles of cow watermelon in most of the trails. I've seen H2's snap knuckles like twigs rendering them useless. Folks like yourself drive Hummers, you think you're the cat's meow in a dog eat dog world.
Ripsnort, most excellent. I despise tools that throw 20-28" wheels on a 4wd vehicle. It is pointless, well, unless your (said with a lisp) "lasersailor".
It was more of a Pot calling the Kettle black that I was making a joke at... But I always forget that some people have trouble reading into things.
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A most enjoyable "my SUV is better than yours" bout. Please, continue!
Rip: Funny story....I've seeing more of those FJ's around here in the boomies of Maine.
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LOL, nice one Rip.
The FJ's have been multiplying in drove around here. All I see are the yellow and powder blue ones though.
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Kuhn,
An H2 is not an off road vehicle:aok
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Last time I went mudding, it was in my firebird on aggressive rain tread tires... the kind that don't work at all on ice, snow, or in mud. It looked like a quick trip across some grass to a radio control flying site but before I could stop I was in up to 8 inches of water and very very slick mud. Nothing I could do but feather the throttle and keep going. The 2 ft trench slowed me down a bit but the mud was so slick I just sort of slithered my way in and out of the trench without doing much more than bottoming out the right front shock and scooping some mud into the brake vent ducting in the air dam. There was no way I was going to stop, and every foot I went the condition got worse. Even on reasonably good all-season tires it would have been a dumb thing to do, but on those rain tires I had no choice but to literally go as fast as I could and hope I didn't get stuck in a mud-filled trench.
By the time I got to an area that had some gravel spread around about 1/4 mile from the only real road, my entire car was coated with mud. From the fog lights over the t-tops back to the underside of the spoiler, every square inch was coated in mud.
The really fun part was the return trip... The only "alternate" route was through a freshly plowed field. Knowing what was coming, I managed another 3 mph over the route. That felt a bit like driving one of those mud-skimmer racers, except for the trip in and out of that big trench which felt exactly like driving a firebird through a 2 ft trench full of mud and water.
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We have heavy snow here throughout the winter in the "Lake Effect" area of NE Ohio. I saw an H2 overturned in a ditch......someone put a sign on it that said Other Side Up. (This as I was driving by in my work car a Baretta that handled the snow nicely.)
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Originally posted by LePaul
A most enjoyable "my SUV is better than yours" bout. Please, continue!
I'd have to say you are wrong. The village idiot (that'd be lasersailor)needed correction. the H2 IS A PILE OF COW DUNG off-road.
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Originally posted by Hajo
We have heavy snow here throughout the winter in the "Lake Effect" area of NE Ohio. I saw an H2 overturned in a ditch......someone put a sign on it that said Other Side Up. (This as I was driving by in my work car a Baretta that handled the snow nicely.)
Those are stickers people buy for their 4x4 rigs. You put them on upside down. Some are in the form of fancy decals, some are just plain bumper stickers like the one below:
(http://www.jeepinguy.com/flip.gif)
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Originally posted by nirvana
Kuhn,
An H2 is not an off road vehicle:aok
AMEN!!
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Lepaul, the FJC is not an SUV. It is listed as a wagon with all insurance companies. There is debate within the FJ community as to what exactly it is...a wagon? a SUV? a SAV? a Truck? An oversized FJ-40? Regardless, one thing is certain, its offroad-ready right out of the box. I've already added mods to make it more versatile while offroad (lift kit, bigger tires, skid plates) and I'm saving my pennies for a winch and winch bumper at the moment.
It's 'carbon footprint' is very small compared to that of a H2 and I'm getting an overall mpg avg. of 19 (50/50 highway/city driving)
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I just bought wife some SUV Jeep Commander, actually rides fairly nice for a big vehichle. I think it is trail rated for whatever that means. I know it does have skids underneath, and drinks way to much gas (probably about the same as the suburban I got rid of). Haven't really thought much about taking the thing off road.
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LOL Rip :D
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The H2 is a pile of cow dung, on road, off road, or in a pile of scrap.
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Out here in trend setting California, I have recently noticed all the local dealerships selling 2007 full size trucks (usually big diesels) with huge lift kits, triple shocks per wheel, & 20" wheels w/ LARGE off road tires sporting very aggressive offroad tread patterns.
Naturally, I wheeled in a spoke to the attending salesman. These rigs have been modified before the original purchase, and are supposed to be completely covered by factory warranties. Sposed to have gear reductions to match tire/wheel packages, and also aftermarket brake componants to stop the big tires & wheels.
The trucks actually look pretty good, but I cant see any real need for them.
Anyone seen those 4-door cars rollin on 24"-28" wheels? These guys have to put $2000 worth of lift kits on the cars just to get the $4000 in bling under the car! Then they cant figure out why the spindles & axles keep breaking. (Gueness commercial voice) BRILLIANT!
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I have a guy in my apartment complex who has to be one of the biggest bling idiots on the planet.
He has a 1988 Olds Delta 88. Paint is peeling in places, headliner is starting to sag in the back, and it needs a ring job bad because it burns so much oil. The car is probably worth about $1500 in Kelly Blue Book but.....he has spent the money to get a lift on the car, 28" rims with spinners, and about 1" of rubber on the rims. He has a killer stereo in the thing and claims to have put over $10,000 into the car to bling it out as he says. I asked him why he would do that and he says it looks cool. I think he's an idiot myself but hey it's his money.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I thought perhaps he was admiring the huge "Tonka" sticker on my rear window, but when he spoke to me he said:
"What is that hitch thing and the loop thing for?"
Me: "Its a D-shackle, you know, a recovery point for a recovery strap.".
Him:"What do you use it for?"
Me: "To pull H2's out of the ditch".
He just grinned. I paid and walked back to the FJ.
Game, set, match.
Dunno why would he asked you about shackles since his vehicle (H2) comes standard with tow shackles...
Bogus...
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Dunno why would he asked you about shackles since his vehicle (H2) comes standard with tow shackles...
Bogus...
Even if they are on the truck, it doesn't mean that guy new what they are for.
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Dunno why would he asked you about shackles since his vehicle (H2) comes standard with tow shackles...
Bogus...
Not a hitch D-ring shackle.
And FWIW, they have tow hook loops. D-ring shackles are extra (or come in some offroad package)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/14955132/235886623.jpg)
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Originally posted by Kuhn
Even if they are on the truck, it doesn't mean that guy new what they are for.
Blah, stories like this are all over numerous off-road boards. They differ slightly in vehicle type, but basically they're all the same. Was funny first few times, now they're boring even if they include Ripsnort and his boat ramp vehicle...
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Not a hitch D-ring shackle.
They call them tow loops (rear bumper), they're more rounded but same thing...
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An anti-bling movement that I actually really kinda dig:
"The "Rat-Rod" is an evolution of the "'jalopy", which is a dilapidated antique car that appears uncared for or neglected. The Rat-Rod is the same idea, the bodywork is made to look dilapidated, or even completely derelict, whilst the underpinnings, i.e. engine, transmission and braking systems are sometimes upgraded.
Rat rods have become popular with many enthusiasts new to the hobby as a reaction to the professionally built, billet encrusted, high dollar "street rods" at car shows. Many of these "street rods" cost upwards of $50,000 or more to build. Many are powered by a Chevrolet small block engines and automatic transmissions. Some of these cars are trailered to car shows and only driven a short distance before being displayed. The Rat Rod concept reverses this trend. Rat rods are generally hand built by the people who own them using vintage parts and primitive fabrication methods. Some of these vehicles are built using the same parts and methods available to the early hot rodders of the late 1950s and 60s. Although early hot rodders strived to build their cars to the best of their ability, todays rat rodders prefer crude welds and shoddy workmanship. Use of billet parts is frowned upon with original, vintage parts being preferred. Use of original, less common engines is also common. Rat rods are often powered by flatheads, straight sixes, straight fours and other relatively uncommon engines such as those made by Cadillac, Studebaker and Oldsmobile.
Many of these cars appear unfinished with primer paint jobs being common. Other common rat rod finishes include “patina” (the original paint with rust and blemishes intact), a patchwork of original paint and primer, and bare metal with no finish at all in rusty or oiled varieties.
Interiors of rat rods will vary from fully finished to a spartan, bare bones form. Mexican blankets and plywood form the basis of many rat rod interiors. Most are designed to be functional without many creature comforts although this will vary with the owner’s taste.
One main distinguishing characteristic of rat rods is that they are built to be driven. Many of these vehicles are used as daily drivers by their owners. While they are rarely if ever trailered to an event, they are periodically trailered home from events or somewhere en route. All of them are built to have fun with and to be a vehicle that is “cool” and does not require constant care. Although rat rods are often confused with traditional hot rods, they have very little in common." -From deh Wiki, man.
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Blah, stories like this are all over numerous off-road boards. They differ slightly in vehicle type, but basically they're all the same. Was funny first few times, now they're boring even if they include Ripsnort and his boat ramp vehicle...
Wow, you have some anger going there dude. :mad:
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
They call them tow loops (rear bumper), they're more rounded but same thing...
No they're not. You can't slip a tow strap loop onto a closed loop, dude.
:huh
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Originally posted by 2bighorn
Blah, stories like this are all over numerous off-road boards. They differ slightly in vehicle type, but basically they're all the same. Was funny first few times, now they're boring even if they include Ripsnort and his boat ramp vehicle... [/B]
:rofl :rofl I missed that part the first time reading it.
Come over and wash my FJ, please. :)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/14955132/234009181.jpg)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Come over and wash my FJ, please. :)[/img]
:rofl
At least post picture from a decent trail.
Playing in the mud puddle doesn't count. That's what soccer moms do when they buy their first SUV :aok
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Originally posted by Kuhn
Even if they are on the truck, it doesn't mean that guy new what they are for.
I know "I have $50,000 that is burning a hole in my pocket, or I have $500/mo for a lease. Let me get the most useless SUV money can buy. I'd sell an H2 f it was given to me.