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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Denholm on March 06, 2007, 09:41:30 AM
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Hey guys, I have a stupid question thanks to my school curriculum. They said, "With the American navy badly damaged at Pearl Harbor, Japan captured much of the western Pacific and eastern Asia. Guam, Midway Island, and Wake Island were taken in addition to the East Indies, the Philippines, and the Gilbert Islands."
Midway Island? I don't recall hearing ANYTHING about Midway being captured by the Japanese in WWII. I looked on google, didn't find much of anything that would hint that Japan actually captured Midway.
I'm trying to figure this out so that I can prove these morons wrong for once. Anyone have any idea if Midway was captured, even for a day, during WWII by the Japanese?
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nope, they had too much uber ack.
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That's what I was thinking, but does anyone have proof, as in History text, so these idiots won't blow me off saying, "We analyzed the National Archives, and they say na na na na na...."
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it never was...
U.S. won that battle and the jap landing force never got near the island.
http://www.worldwar2history.info/Midway/Battle-of-Midway.html
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Yeah, thanks for re-assuring me, I'll go ahead and pummel them.
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It was really the Japs fault for not taking it. No one wanted to de ack or take the town down, they all wanted to vulch.
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They only attacked Midway to get our fleet in a fight. But Yamoto split his navy to attack the Alaskan islands as a decoy, but Nimitz (I think) had already broken the Jap code and didnt take the bait.
The result was a lot of Japanese carriers destroyed. After Midway, Yamoto did not win anything signifigant in the war and was shot down in a transport plane going to the soloman islands (again, I think...)
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Many say Midway was the turning point of the war. (Those in the navy)
Many say Guadacanal was the turning point (Those in the Marines)
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Yes, my google search did return the mentions of wanting to lure the Americans into a fight and allow the Japanese Navy to destroy the American fleet. Yet I don't believe the Nimitz was in the fight!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/917_1173197143_final_countdown.jpg):rofl
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Originally posted by Denholm
Yes, my google search did return the mentions of wanting to lure the Americans into a fight and allow the Japanese Navy to destroy the American fleet. Yet I don't believe the Nimitz was in the fight!
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/917_1173197143_final_countdown.jpg):rofl
This proves the Americans are a bunch of haxors!
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When the Japanese attacked on Pearl Harbor, Japaneses destroyers shelled Midway island.
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Originally posted by soda72
When the Japanese attacked on Pearl Harbor, Japaneses destroyers shelled Midway island.
I'll bet that was quite a reach from P.H. ;)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'll bet that was quite a reach from P.H. ;)
I think they were a little closer then where the main CV's was at..
:)
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
It was really the Japs fault for not taking it. No one wanted to de ack or take the town down, they all wanted to vulch.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Karash
They only attacked Midway to get our fleet in a fight. But Yamoto split his navy to attack the Alaskan islands as a decoy, but Nimitz (I think) had already broken the Jap code and didnt take the bait.
The result was a lot of Japanese carriers destroyed. After Midway, Yamoto did not win anything signifigant in the war and was shot down in a transport plane going to the soloman islands (again, I think...)
Commander Joseph Rochefort led the unit that broke the JN-25 naval code that allowed Admiral Nimitz to position his carrier force in an ambush for the Japanese attacking Midway.
On the morning of April 18, despite urgings by local commanders to cancel the trip for fear of ambush, Yamamoto's planes left Rabaul as scheduled for the 315-mile trip. Shortly after, eighteen specially-fitted P-38s took off from Guadalcanal. They wave-hopped most of the 430 miles to the rendezvous point, maintaining radio silence throughout. At 09:34 Tokyo time, the two flights met and a dogfight ensued between the P-38s and the six Zeroes escorting Yamamoto.
1st Lt. Rex T. Barber engaged the first of the two Japanese bombers, which turned out to be Yamamoto's plane. He sprayed the plane with gunfire until it began to spew smoke from its left engine. Barber turned away to attack the other bomber as Yamamoto's plane crashed into the jungle. Afterwards, another pilot, Capt Thomas George Lanphier, Jr., claimed he had shot down the lead bomber, which led to a decades-old controversy until a team inspected the crash site to determine direction of the bullet impacts. Most historians now credit Barber with the claim.
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Originally posted by Denholm
Hey guys, I have a stupid question thanks to my school curriculum. They said, "With the American navy badly damaged at Pearl Harbor, Japan captured much of the western Pacific and eastern Asia. Guam, Midway Island, and Wake Island were taken in addition to the East Indies, the Philippines, and the Gilbert Islands."
Midway Island? I don't recall hearing ANYTHING about Midway being captured by the Japanese in WWII. I looked on google, didn't find much of anything that would hint that Japan actually captured Midway.
I'm trying to figure this out so that I can prove these morons wrong for once. Anyone have any idea if Midway was captured, even for a day, during WWII by the Japanese?
Yes, yes they did, and the Germans bombed Pearl harbor.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Yes, yes they did, and the Germans bombed Pearl harbor.
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Well, thanks for the info guys, no credit to GtoRA2:D . I sent off the inquiry about 3 hours back and am awaiting a response.
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I watched a documentary on Pearl Harbor several years back, it was actually quite informative.
Apparently, due to a big storm, a U.S. aircraft carrier was near Pearl Harbor right before the attack on December 7th, but not actually at Pearl Harbor. This aircraft carrier was carrying some of the U.S.'s most technologically advanced planes. Two of the planes even ran into two Japanese Zeros before the attack. Since it was peace time, the U.S. pilots were astonished to see the Zeros. But one of the Japanese pilots fired and hit an American plane in the engine, so they got into a dogfight and the Americans won.
Right before the Pearl Harbor attack, as the Japanese naval aircraft were bearing down on the island, the U.S. aircraft carrier began launching planes. However, they ran into another storm, and had to recall all of its planes. These planes could have really saved us at Pearl Harbor.
I think the documentary ended there. I'm not sure what happened to the carrier, I think it helped us out in some other battles. But anyways, while most people think the Germans were the first to use jets in combat, I have to disagree. I think this documentary proves that the US Navy first used jets in combat (albeit on a limited scale due to storms) as early as 1941.
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:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
http://imdb.com/title/tt0080736/
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
It was really the Japs fault for not taking it. No one wanted to de ack or take the town down, they all wanted to vulch.
:rofl
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there is some validity to that summation.
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Originally posted by Denholm
:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
http://imdb.com/title/tt0080736/
I remember that movie :) I think my mom has it on vhs.
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Originally posted by rabbidrabbit
It was really the Japs fault for not taking it. No one wanted to de ack or take the town down, they all wanted to vulch.
uh ............................. ......I think he wants the real midway island information, but knowing Denholm and his attempts to conquer the world you never know :)
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I already got everything I needed,:D thanks DMF.
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If the teacher says the Japs captured Midway...just agree---too many of them cop an attitude if proved wrong, and it thus could screw up your g.p.a.
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Nope, but the Japanese were duped to the North of it.
Intelligence experts discovered that the Japanese planned to attack an unknown site referred to as "AF." To test the theory that Midway was the target, a disinformation message regarding Midway's freshwater supply was sent out over open communication channels. The Japanese intercepted the message and redistributed it in their JN 25 code, saying that "AF" needed freshwater.
The Japanese were screwed from the onset of Midway. Heck, they got their tulips handed to em on Wake Island (heavy casualties). Had Devereaux not surrendered, the Japanese would have been in a pickle.
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It's not a typical opening move in Axis & Allies but it has been done.
(http://www.wargamer.com/reviews/graphics/axis8.jpg)
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/1066_1173253921_ahero.jpg)
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
I'll bet that was quite a reach from P.H. ;)
they clicked on the map and pressed W.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Nope, but the Japanese were duped to the North of it.
Intelligence experts discovered that the Japanese planned to attack an unknown site referred to as "AF." To test the theory that Midway was the target, a disinformation message regarding Midway's freshwater supply was sent out over open communication channels. The Japanese intercepted the message and redistributed it in their JN 25 code, saying that "AF" needed freshwater.
The Japanese were screwed from the onset of Midway. Heck, they got their tulips handed to em on Wake Island (heavy casualties). Had Devereaux not surrendered, the Japanese would have been in a pickle.
Although the defense of Wake was incredible, if they had'nt surrendered the Japanese would have sent a much larger force and probably would have butchered the remaining garrison to the man.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Although the defense of Wake was incredible, if they had'nt surrendered the Japanese would have sent a much larger force and probably would have butchered the remaining garrison to the man.
a US naval relief force was sent to relieve wake, but before they got there the pacific commander was replaced ( because of the pearl attack) and the new pacific commander did not want to risk any more ships and recalled the wake relief force.
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Although the defense of Wake was incredible, if they had'nt surrendered the Japanese would have sent a much larger force and probably would have butchered the remaining garrison to the man.
Actually FiLtH, while reading "Left for Dead", there would have been a question of "sending more". The Japanese up until the surrender, were getting killed by the bushel. The IJN did not know where the Carriers were, and were starting to worry that they were nearby, or at least within striking distance.
I'm just "theorizing" is all, it's all we can do. But it sure as hell, would have been a difficult decision either way had Devereaux NOT surrendered.
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Originally posted by Debonair
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Where the heck did you come up with that?:rofl
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when you get to the end of the intarnets on hard mode the boss is really tough.
that is what you win