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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ball on March 07, 2007, 05:45:17 PM
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Yay! space race!
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=2926679
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15 Years?? LMAO I think Zimbabwe can pull it off in 15 years. China is supposed to be technologically advanced and they are talking 15 years?
There won't be anywhere for China to land, heck all the good real estate will be gobbled up by then.
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Going into space requires alot of research and most importantly DATA!
It took the US 11 apollo missions to do it. That's WITH all the data collected from murcury and gemini and such.
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The experience is there, and the computing power is there as well.
Good luck China!
(AFAIK the whole computing power behind the Appolo programme actually fits in a 486-33 processor)
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Originally posted by ROC
15 Years?? LMAO I think Zimbabwe can pull it off in 15 years. China is supposed to be technologically advanced and they are talking 15 years?
There won't be anywhere for China to land, heck all the good real estate will be gobbled up by then.
By whom? As to 15 years: China tends to go slow and steady. No J.F.K. speeches required or western short attention spans to deal with.
Took a bit over 50 years to go from Wilbur and Orville to spaceflight and eventually "One small Step".
Looks like it may take at least 50 years to get BACK to the Moon for the U.S., and NASA"s current plane to do so is a syndicated version of Apollo. Anyone whose read anything from M. Hunter, G.H. Stine, and others on the topic, will see it as an economical dead-end approach to Lunar Transport.
China's growing aerospace industry may actually be in a better position to get them to the moon that the U.S. these days.
Or as the old joke goes: "If America can put a man on the moon, why can't America put a man on the moon?"
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I don't think we could place a man on the moon in ten years right now. fifteen years is reasonable.
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Originally posted by Angus
The experience is there, and the computing power is there as well.
Good luck China!
(AFAIK the whole computing power behind the Appolo programme actually fits in a 486-33 processor)
They have no experience. None. They've barley had manned orbital flight
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It'll never happen again. If John Chinaman goes up there he's going to get a laser blast in the old keister.
The greys told us to stay off the moon because their base on the far side of the moon showed up in a video shot from Apollo 11
This has to be true because I heard it on Art Bell ;)
*puts tinfoil had on, opens The Catcher in the Rye, and closes the blinds :noid
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
Going into space requires alot of research and most importantly DATA!
It took the US 11 apollo missions to do it. That's WITH all the data collected from murcury and gemini and such.
I think the Apollo program got there in 5 missions. After the fire of the Apollo 1 mission , the first Apollo to fly was Apollo 7. With Apollo 11 being the first to land on the moon. It's possible I'm mistaken though.
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the Apollo program more or less started July 1960, nine years later landed on the moon.
the Gemini program started in 1961 which was ongoing while Apollo was being developed launched 12 missions between 1964 and 1966, experience was used to help develop the Apollo program.
From Apollo 7 to Apollo 11 , October 1968 to July 1969, 5 launches, 1 moon landing in 10 months...
thats 17 rocket launches (a couple were unmanned) in 6 years.
you would think China could do it faster than 15 years.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
They have no experience. None. They've barley had manned orbital flight
Project Mercury annouced 1958, no prior orbital experience, except maybe monkeys,... man on the moon 1969, 11 years
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the US went to the moon, the report-----there's nothing there.
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Originally posted by john9001
the US went to the moon, the report-----there's nothing there.
not so. they found freakin juan valdez mounted atop of akak with a load coffee ready to greet the gringos with some fresh java.
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I'm tellin you they found the grey base and robot heads...
think I'm lying?
http://www.unknowncountry.com/
:rofl
Storch why are we chatting on the board instead of you humiliating me in the air?
oh ya... it's not 8:00 yet... you up tonight?
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nothing there right now, but in 20-30 years it
could be the last resort for super-rich people,
talk about holidays on moon, motels and much more ect.
if you have the money, why not?
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Originally posted by john9001
the US went to the moon, the report-----there's nothing there.
Which report sez that?
Except for the 3He (helium-3), titanium, oxides, iron, aluminum, low-g environment, high vacuum environment ("clean room"), material for mass shielding,.... some other stuff. Nice locations for optical and radio telescopes. Environment pretty resistant to damage from "hot lab" accidents. Lacking hydrocarbons and many other volatiles.
Be a bit of a "moon rush" if we ever get fusion figured out as a power source. 3He one of the favored fuels for that process, and Luna is closer than Mercury and the gas giants to access 3He in fuel quantities.
Ultimate KKV (kinetic kill vehicle) launch platform. Lot's of rocks around. Take a rock, give it a push at the big blue ball in the lunar sky. A little while later.....boom. Earth has a new crater. You say China is interested in the Moon?
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
I'm tellin you they found the grey base and robot heads...
think I'm lying?
http://www.unknowncountry.com/
:rofl
Storch why are we chatting on the board instead of you humiliating me in the air?
oh ya... it's not 8:00 yet... you up tonight?
I'll be along shortly but will probably visit the MWA.
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cool
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Be a bit of a "moon rush" if we ever get fusion figured out as a power source. 3He one of the favored fuels for that process, and Luna is closer than Mercury and the gas giants to access 3He in fuel quantities.
Ultimate KKV (kinetic kill vehicle) launch platform. Lot's of rocks around. Take a rock, give it a push at the big blue ball in the lunar sky. A little while later.....boom. Earth has a new crater. You say China is interested in the Moon?
Fusion has a long way to go....and if China starts throwing rocks from Moon, US can throw things with bigger boom than just kinetics.
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Hey Dichotomy.
Clean out your PM basket so I can reply to the one you sent me.:)
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Originally posted by Shifty
Hey Dichotomy.
Clean out your PM basket so I can reply to the one you sent me.:)
shifty... done.. weird though there was only one in there.. I'm going to pm you my private email addy
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Maybe in 30 years they can invent the Intardnet.
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Didnt we post a no trespassing sign?
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why not just film it on a hollywood set like we did?
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Originally posted by FiLtH
Didnt we post a no trespassing sign?
By planting a flag on it wasnt it claimed in the name of the United States?
that would make it property of the US
Maybe we can rent it to the Chineese ;)
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Originally posted by mandingo
why not just film it on a hollywood set like we did?
:rofl :aok
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE&mode=related&search=
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I smell a sequel!!!
(http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/mediabias1/drno.jpg)(http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00213/James_Bond_213178m.jpg)
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We've already been there, they can have sloppy seconds. But I DON'T see this panning out.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Which report sez that?
Except for the 3He (helium-3), titanium, oxides, iron, aluminum, low-g environment, high vacuum environment ("clean room"), material for mass shielding,.... some other stuff. Nice locations for optical and radio telescopes. Environment pretty resistant to damage from "hot lab" accidents. Lacking hydrocarbons and many other volatiles.
Be a bit of a "moon rush" if we ever get fusion figured out as a power source. 3He one of the favored fuels for that process, and Luna is closer than Mercury and the gas giants to access 3He in fuel quantities.
Ultimate KKV (kinetic kill vehicle) launch platform. Lot's of rocks around. Take a rock, give it a push at the big blue ball in the lunar sky. A little while later.....boom. Earth has a new crater. You say China is interested in the Moon?
Makes me wonder...:noid
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
shifty... done.. weird though there was only one in there.. I'm going to pm you my private email addy
You probably need to clean out sent items in there as well. :aok
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Well someone needs to give NASA a kick in the pants. Perhaps this could start another space race.
If things don't change, the private sector is going to pass up NASA for manned space flight in the next couple decades.
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I have been advocating the plausible denialbility of moon rock bombardment of china for the last decade. If we let them get there first it will mean nothing good.
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Not one joke about a cheese mine. This is a really sophisticated forum.
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They have to do something with all those dollars they are sucking out of the US.
Charon
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Anyone remember Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress"? There were two main cities, one run essentially as an open prison by a future version of the UN, and one called "Hong Kong Luna", which was a modern free society.
Interestingly enough, when the free citizens of the moon revolted, they won by tossing steel canisters full of rocks at Earth. Pretty damn plausible with technology that we already have in large part.
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"heck all the good real estate will be gobbled up by then."
It will be like the .com bubble though, prices through the roof and huge annual increases in value.
...untill they find out there is no plumbing.
...or air.
Great view though. Hey I wonder if you can invest in a time share?
;)