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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Spikes on March 08, 2007, 02:42:12 PM
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Ive started to like the P-47. To what I think...P-47D-25 is the best turner...while packing the ords and guns... What you guys think is the best?
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I think I like spraying all that ammo while screamming down on some poor unlucky red guy. :D
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I prefer the P-47D-25 too, the one used in the french squadron "Lafayette" remembering the squadron composed of american volunteers during WWI. Sentimental choice again I know... :D
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8380/p47dbw1.png)
The razorback is a good aircraft too, but it is less beautiful. :)
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Originally posted by spikes
Ive started to like the P-47. To what I think...P-47D-25 is the best turner...while packing the ords and guns... What you guys think is the best?
its not a bad plane:D
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Originally posted by Wes14
its not a bad plane:D
well, no cannons but dive speed and gun package make up for it.
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Normally i would fly a P-38(or other american plane):D
and fly a N1K if i need some revenge:noid
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Originally posted by Vespasiano
I prefer the P-47D-25 too, the one used in the french squadron "Lafayette" remembering the squadron composed of american volunteers during WWI. Sentimental choice again I know... :D
(http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/8380/p47dbw1.png)
The razorback is a good aircraft too, but it is less beautiful. :)
As seen in the short doucmentary piece "Thunderbolt"
About thirty minutes long, but in full color kodachrome & AWSOME
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Originally posted by Wes14
Normally i would fly a P-38(or other american plane):D
and fly a N1K if i need some revenge:noid
I like the Hellcat...it seems whenever I fly it and I am in a turnfight, I only get my guns knocked out...No parts unless a cannon armed plane is behind me when I am afk or somthing...
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Originally posted by Wes14
Normally i would fly a P-38(or other american plane):D
and fly a N1K if i need some revenge:noid
Why not just fly the P-38 if you need "some revenge"? It's far better than the N1K2 when it's flown by a capable pilot.
ack-ack
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:noid umm as ppl would know..im a terrible fighter pilot:aok
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Originally posted by spikes
Ive started to like the P-47. To what I think...P-47D-25 is the best turner...while packing the ords and guns... What you guys think is the best?
Not quite.... The P-47D-11 is the best turner and the D-40 is the best of D models in terms of performance. Which is why the D-25 is the least flown Jug.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Wes14
:noid umm as ppl would know..im a terrible fighter pilot:aok
You're not going to get any better by doing what you're doing. Learn ACM and tactics and you won't have to jump in a N1K2 to "seek revenge".
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Widewing
Not quite.... The P-47D-11 is the best turner and the D-40 is the best of D models in terms of performance. Which is why the D-25 is the least flown Jug.
My regards,
Widewing
Thanks Wide...
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Originally posted by Widewing
Not quite.... The P-47D-11 is the best turner and the D-40 is the best of D models in terms of performance. Which is why the D-25 is the least flown Jug.
Also, it's a good reason to get good in the D25. Its performance really isn't that much different from the D11, it has better visibility, and I am told that it hauls the most ordnance of the 47s, if you're into that sort of thing.
Having said that, the D40 is the most fun.
- oldman
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http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=p47d11&p2=p47d25&p3=p47d40&p4=p47n
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You're not going to get any better by doing what you're doing. Learn ACM and tactics and you won't have to jump in a N1K2 to "seek revenge".
ack-ack
but you would have to come down out of the AckAckosphere first :aok
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Originally posted by JB35
but you would have to come down out of the AckAckosphere first :aok
I would if I didn't have to chase you up there as you run away.
ack-ack
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does anyone have a move that cold help me and mt P-38 help win a dogfight against my friend and his spit14?:aok
only way i seem to win if i send him for a ride thru the trees (actually diving to 2 feet above ground and dodge trees)
most of the time he hits a tree:noid
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I would if I didn't have to chase you up there as you run away.
ack-ack
Ohhhh AckAck you crack me up bud :aok
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47s are crap take mustangs :aok
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Originally posted by quintv
47s are crap take mustangs :aok
*AHEM*
P-47s were one of the best Fighter/Attack planes in WWII
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Originally posted by OOZ662
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=p47d11&p2=p47d25&p3=p47d40&p4=p47n
Okay, here's actual test data on the four P-47s. All planes flying with 25% fuel, zero burn. Each armed with 8 guns, but the standard ammo load of 267 rounds per gun (as actually used for most WWII missions), not the max load. This is what I fly with 90% of the time.
Acceleration, 150 mph to 200 mph at 100 feet ASL. Measured in seconds.
P-47D-11: 11.09
P-47D-25: 10.83
P-47D-40: 10.12
P-47N: 10.44
Acceleration, 150 mph to 300 mph at 100 feet ASL. Measured in seconds.
Drag is a bigger factor in this test.
P-47D-11: 54.84
P-47D-25: 55.27
P-47D-40: 51.66
P-47N: 45.68
Max speed at sea level, MIL power.
P-47D-11: 335 mph
P-47D-25: 332 mph
P-47D-40: 333 mph
P-47N: 329 mph
Max speed at sea level, Combat Power (WEP).
P-47D-11: 345 mph
P-47D-25: 343 mph
P-47D-40: 344 mph
P-47N: 367 mph
Max speed at 30,000 feet., Combat Power (WEP).
P-47D-11: 436 mph
P-47D-25: 434 mph
P-47D-40: 438 mph
P-47N: 476 mph
Time to climb to 10,000 feet, beginning at 150 mph, measured in minutes:seconds.hundredths of seconds.
P-47D-11: 3:07.02
P-47D-25: 2:57.40
P-47D-40: 2:44.10
P-47N: 2:50.06
As a side note, at 40,000 feet, the P-47N can attain 455 mph.
At 30,000 feet and above, the P-47s are superb. The P-47N is faster at 40k than the Bf 109K-4 is at its best altitude, which is just 22k. It's important to remember that at high altitude, maneuverability is almost totally dependent upon reserve horsepower. Up there, your indicated airspeed is the one thing you must watch carefully. For example, at 32,000 feet, the Fw 190A-8 can barely do 210 mph IAS. That's not very fast and the 190A series were not good performers up that high. However, it is vital to understand that when turning at just 2g, the 190A-8 will stall at 170 mph IAS. Think about that; max speed and stall speed are separated by just 40 mph IAS. There's little margin for error when flying the 190A-8 up high. In contrast, the P-47D-40 can attain 260 mph IAS at 32k, giving it a huge advantage in maneuverability as it has the power to turn at 4g and not lose altitude or risk a stall and subsequent spin. You should also note that the P-47D-40 climbs 3 times faster than the 190A-8 at 32k.
So, you may ask, "why this is significant?" When Combat Tour debuts, the first tour will be ETO based. This means that the Luftwaffe will be defending against Allied heavy bombers. The B-24s typically flew between 24k and 26k, with the B-17s often flying higher, up to 28k. Escort fighters will be well above the bombers, at least as high as 30k, and often higher. Thus, fighter vs fighter combat will begin at very high altitudes. So, while not significant to MA combat, high altitude combat will very much be the standard fare in Combat Tour.
Anyone who intends to fly Combat Tour should start practicing high alt combat now. Load the TA map for offline play. Fly from one of the two 30k bases (launch on the NE runway, as the others spawn as air starts at various locations). Climb out and attack the drones. You will find this very challenging to accomplish. Thus, you will experience that high alt combat is very different from furballing down low.
The Aces High Trainers will holding high alt combat clinics at least once a month until CT debuts, and probably after too. Our first clinic will be held on Friday, March 16 at 9 PM Eastern in the Training Arena. Take advantage of this opportunity to get some experience before CT is released.
My regards,
Widewing
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P47s suck!:(
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
P47s suck!:(
Lies!
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LW owns P47s!
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P47 is teh awesome bomnberz!
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P47s are for spit16 pilots that want to sink a CV.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
P47s are for spit16 pilots that want to sink a CV.
p-47s are the harder planes to fly...Ill fight you in it...
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quote:Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
P47s are for spit16 pilots that want to sink a CV.
p-47s are the harder planes to fly...Ill fight you in it...
ewhh Frenchy, got you a live one there..........better set that hook ;)
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Ow! Tingely ... Set the time Spike. Shuuuttt Tequila don't make him check my stats before I fight him :p
(http://www.tacklebox.com.au/gallery/data/500/medium/GOSF_big_catch_1_Medium_.jpg)
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that beard is ****ing awesome