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Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: ForrestS on March 11, 2007, 03:12:14 PM
I could really go for a modern Aces High 2 with F-16's B-2's and all of the modern jets and bombers. It would be really fun.  


(http://www.globalaircraft.org/photos/planephotos/f-16-4.jpg)
Title: Re: Modern Aces High
Post by: TequilaChaser on March 11, 2007, 03:17:55 PM
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Originally posted by ForrestS
I could really go for a modern Aces High 2 with F-16's B-2's and all of the modern jets and bombers. It would be really fun.  


(http://www.globalaircraft.org/photos/planephotos/f-16-4.jpg)


ForrestS
Junior Member

Registered: Dec 2006
Location: 19.38 miles from HTC
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heya Forrest,
hey since you live so close to the HTC office, why not drive over there or get a ride and talk to them in person about it, am sure you be welcomed to go visit ;)
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: wstpt10 on March 11, 2007, 03:19:31 PM
Vulching takes a new meaning when some assclown can kill you at 20 some miles with an AIM-120.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Wes14 on March 11, 2007, 03:39:35 PM
:noid  Also the taker udes will et mad when i carpet bomb their tanks with 50 bombs from a B52:rofl
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: wstpt10 on March 11, 2007, 04:38:42 PM
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Originally posted by Wes14
:noid  Also the taker udes will et mad when i carpet bomb their tanks with 50 bombs from a B52:rofl


Patriot SAMs will pwn you.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Husky01 on March 11, 2007, 04:42:29 PM
"Looks at rader"


Bleep.....Bleep.....Bleep


"Fire"


"WOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHHHHH"


"BOOOOOOOOOOOMMM"

CH200: Golly-gee CHERRY PICKERS I OWN YOU!!!!!!
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Wes14 on March 11, 2007, 05:00:55 PM
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Originally posted by wstpt10
Patriot SAMs will pwn you.


Stealth bombers?:rofl

wait how about all the nukes in the world:t
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: wstpt10 on March 11, 2007, 05:16:00 PM
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Originally posted by Husky01
"Looks at rader"


Bleep.....Bleep.....Bleep


"Fire"


"WOOOOOSSSSSHHHHHHHHH"


"BOOOOOOOOOOOMMM"

CH200: Golly-gee CHERRY PICKERS I OWN YOU!!!!!!


lmao!
Title: Re: Modern Aces High
Post by: thndregg on March 11, 2007, 10:07:00 PM
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Originally posted by ForrestS
I could really go for a modern Aces High 2 with F-16's B-2's and all of the modern jets and bombers. It would be really fun.  


(http://www.globalaircraft.org/photos/planephotos/f-16-4.jpg)


 :rolleyes: Kids.:rolleyes:
Title: LMAO
Post by: ForrestS on March 11, 2007, 11:03:45 PM
Thanx. I got a real good laugh out of vulching from 20 miles away!. Thank u for replying. It would be fun tho flying low at 600+mph hunting down enemys and bases. Well I tryied, ty every1.  Oh ya i dont have a drivers licence yet but im getting my permit soon so maybe ill come visit HT sometime.

:cry
Title: Re: LMAO
Post by: wstpt10 on March 11, 2007, 11:24:40 PM
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Originally posted by ForrestS
Thanx. I got a real good laugh out of vulching from 20 miles away!. Thank u for replying. It would be fun tho flying low at 600+mph hunting down enemys and bases. Well I tryied, ty every1.  Oh ya i dont have a drivers licence yet but im getting my permit soon so maybe ill come visit HT sometime.

:cry


it would be interesting, but just not doable. pick up a good modern jet sim sometime, like Lock On Modern Air Combat. The modeling of avionics alone would be, well, damn.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Debonair on March 12, 2007, 12:45:57 AM
isnt that about a 30 year old plane?
modrn, my rear end
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Hornet33 on March 12, 2007, 01:39:40 AM
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Originally posted by Wes14
:noid  Also the taker udes will et mad when i carpet bomb their tanks with 50 bombs from a B52:rofl


Only 50 bombs??? Taking the light load option huh???

But in the spirit of this thread I submit the following song for your listening pleasure. This song speaks of how the L33T pilots would go about playing.

Gunz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5EsK1cpiw)
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Ghosth on March 12, 2007, 08:28:09 AM
Gentlemen, think about this for a minute.

Why is it that WWII makes such good game play. When WWI, Korea, Vietnam, and modern combat doesn't?

Its all about balance.

WWI the Axis planes ruled the skys for 2/3rds of the war. Then the allied planes caught & exceeded them, and it was one sided the other way. Granted it flipped back & forth a few times in the middle. But trying to find any one period where planes were equal in capability is virtually impossible. It didn't happen that way.

WWII you have a constant flow of new planes from all sides. Armament is better, and its more about the pilot than the plane. In short, you are close enough to balance to make for good game play.

Now, where do you see balance in modern Planes?
Not to mention that game play is not the same when you don't even have visual on your enemy when you've locked on, fired, and killed him.

Korea, possibly, esp if it concentrated on early war. Late war WWII prop planes and a few early war jets, like the Navy F9f Panther carrier jet that did close air support. If they did do Korea you'd have to end it at the point where air to air missiles start becoming effective. Concentrate on the early war.

WWII had such a wide diversity of planes, with vastly different capability's.
This translates into balance, and fun. For almost each plane one side had, there was a a plane, or a tactic that countered it.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Denholm on March 12, 2007, 12:04:23 PM
If there was an AH that had modern jets, it would be called Aces High IV
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: 1895 on March 12, 2007, 12:07:27 PM
Please get out, no more modern war sims. Got enough of em. AH, is unique to WW2. LEts stick to that and that only please. Or ill be upping migs and su33/27
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Denholm on March 12, 2007, 12:12:45 PM
Plenty, PLENTY?!? I only know of LOMAC and another one that isn't too bright. You got any others you wanna mention?
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: 1895 on March 12, 2007, 12:47:12 PM
Falcon 4.0, lemme look what I got on my comp, there are too many.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Krusty on March 12, 2007, 01:29:19 PM
Ghosth, you could do the entirety of Korea, because missiles were still abyssmal flops well into the early stages of Vietnam.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 12, 2007, 01:33:33 PM
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Originally posted by wstpt10
Patriot SAMs will pwn you.


With their record during the 1st Gulf War and their tendency to lock on friendly aircraft, no problem.


ack-ack
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: wstpt10 on March 12, 2007, 01:59:07 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
With their record during the 1st Gulf War and their tendency to lock on friendly aircraft, no problem.


ack-ack


They've kinda changed in the past decade and a half.
Title: Re: Modern Aces High
Post by: Nilsen on March 12, 2007, 02:01:57 PM
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Originally posted by ForrestS
I could really go *****************************************. It would be really fun.


Ok.. i can agree with you on this part.. :D
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Xjazz on March 12, 2007, 03:09:46 PM
I like Flanker

The SARH and rear aspect IR missiles fights would be fun....
If no netlag fact and THIS is the key factor in internet gaming.

I guess, faster than WWII era planes and everything is nothing but massive online multiwhiner mess.

(edit)
Anybody knows from where that above F16 picture is from? What is that canyon down there? The Grand Canyon?

It just give an air race track idea and I would like to know the scale.

Thanks
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 12, 2007, 04:27:45 PM
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Originally posted by wstpt10
They've kinda changed in the past decade and a half.


Tell that to the F-16 that had to fire at a Patriot Battery to knock it out because it had locked on her and her wingman and was about to fire.  This incident showed that the Patriot's radar had a tendency to identify friendly aircraft as hostile, despite IFF signals.


ack-ack
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Debonair on March 12, 2007, 04:38:55 PM
no:mad:they knocked down all the scuds & won the war
jerk:mad: :mad: :furious :furious :furious :furious :noid
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Denholm on March 13, 2007, 10:30:45 AM
Really, the patriot missiles are rather unstable, the best way to keep them stable is to keep them shutoff and use a scanner to detect particular heat signatures which come from missiles. Cross-check the event with a time-line of what is supposed to happen that day and determine if the missile is hostile or friendly. If it's hostile, switch on the patriot missile battery, manually lock on target (Making sure not to allow the missile to lock onto friendlies) and missiles away.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: weazely on March 13, 2007, 05:04:42 PM
carrier

"Enemy or radar 20 miles away sir,what should we do?"
"FIRE"
"ok launching missle now"
ENEMY: WTF some warpy a** loser just warped right next to me then warped away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: macleod01 on March 13, 2007, 05:12:11 PM
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Originally posted by weazely
carrier

"Enemy or radar 20 miles away sir,what should we do?"
"FIRE"
"ok launching missle now"
ENEMY: WTF some warpy a** loser just warped right next to me then warped away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Denholm on March 13, 2007, 05:50:41 PM
Owwww.... Now that's good!:rofl
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Connery on March 15, 2007, 01:14:11 PM
Modern day AH would be great with jets, just dont allow usage of missiles and only onboard cannons and ord like bombs etc. Kinda like Aces High is now basically except with modern jets and bombers !! and the like.

Think it would be a lot of fun!
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: SAS_KID on March 16, 2007, 12:13:16 AM
Quote
Originally posted by wstpt10
Vulching takes a new meaning when some assclown can kill you at 20 some miles with an AIM-120.


Pssssh My F-14 Tomcat with a Phoenix missile will pwn joo from 100 miles away.:noid
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Lye-El on March 16, 2007, 09:28:51 AM
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Originally posted by Connery
Modern day AH would be great with jets, just dont allow usage of missiles and only onboard cannons and ord like bombs etc. Kinda like Aces High is now basically except with modern jets and bombers !! and the like.

Think it would be a lot of fun!


It would be so kool to have AH with Apache helicopters and submarines.......

On the other hand, would I not be playing a game that caters to helicopters  or one that caters to submarines? I play Aces High BECAUSE it is caters to WWII aircraft but I do enjoy the GV aspect also. It is, however, the WWII aircraft that drew me here. If my interests were in jets, with or without missles, why would I be here?
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Lye-El on March 16, 2007, 09:42:42 AM
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Originally posted by Hornet33

But in the spirit of this thread I submit the following song for your listening pleasure. This song speaks of how the L33T pilots would go about playing.

Gunz (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5EsK1cpiw)


That was pretty good! I got a kick out of it.
There is one called, if I remember right, "It feels like the first time" that is pretty good also.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Sabre on March 16, 2007, 10:50:06 AM
I explored this idea with HiTech, back when I was acting as a liason between HTC and the US Air Force Academy.  Basically, what Dale said was, "Gimme a million bucks and I'll do it."  So, there you have it.  Anyone want to start a collection?

By the way, for a time HTC provide free accounts to the USAFA cadets in their War Gaming club, allowing them to play for free (Dale's a good guy).  We even explored using AH as a training device for the cadets, but could never get the "Brass" beyond the "Well, that's an interesting concept" phase.  We pitched it using a combination of a Power Point presentation, a AH music video, and a live demonstration.  We did an 8v8 airbase strike mission, with two computers set up at USAFA and 6 of my squadies on line.  We flew P-38's.  We arranged for a squad based in Germany to play the Bf-109s that would attempt to intercept us.

During the demo, I pointed out to the Colonel (Dean of the history department) that those were Germans intercepting us.  He said, "Yes, I know the 109 was German."

I said, "Yes Sir, but what I meant was those are being flown right now by Germans, in Germany, right this moment."

He looked puzzeled for a moment, then got a big grin on his face.  "S**t hot, son, that's pretty cool!"
Title: Modern Jets
Post by: ForrestS on March 17, 2007, 12:04:45 AM
Yeah i c ur point, kind of. We could make it simialr to Ace Combat but it would be a MMO. We could make it in the early jet years. With missles that lock on but not from 20+ miles away. U just hold down a button to get it locked on, then FIRE. :O  We could older jets. Not todays jets. Same with bombers.


(http://www.ukairshows.info/2004/airshows/duxfordsept/photographs/ga_jets_1.jpg)
Title: Re: LMAO
Post by: Odee on March 18, 2007, 08:28:50 AM
Quote
Originally posted by ForrestS
Thanx. I got a real good laugh out of vulching from 20 miles away!. Thank u for replying. It would be fun tho flying low at 600+mph hunting down enemys and bases. Well I tryied, ty every1.  Oh ya i dont have a drivers licence yet but im getting my permit soon so maybe ill come visit HT sometime.

:cry


I recommend Jane's Fighters, Saber Jet, F-16 Falcon4, or even any of the arcade games if you want to do that...

FOCLMGBO @ the *kids* comment
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: TankBstr on March 19, 2007, 02:17:08 PM
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Originally posted by Sabre
I explored this idea with HiTech, back when I was acting as a liason between HTC and the US Air Force Academy.  Basically, what Dale said was, "Gimme a million bucks and I'll do it."  So, there you have it.  Anyone want to start a collection?

By the way, for a time HTC provide free accounts to the USAFA cadets in their War Gaming club, allowing them to play for free (Dale's a good guy).  We even explored using AH as a training device for the cadets, but could never get the "Brass" beyond the "Well, that's an interesting concept" phase.  We pitched it using a combination of a Power Point presentation, a AH music video, and a live demonstration.  We did an 8v8 airbase strike mission, with two computers set up at USAFA and 6 of my squadies on line.  We flew P-38's.  We arranged for a squad based in Germany to play the Bf-109s that would attempt to intercept us.

During the demo, I pointed out to the Colonel (Dean of the history department) that those were Germans intercepting us.  He said, "Yes, I know the 109 was German."

I said, "Yes Sir, but what I meant was those are being flown right now by Germans, in Germany, right this moment."

He looked puzzeled for a moment, then got a big grin on his face.  "S**t hot, son, that's pretty cool!"


When was this?  I was class of 2002, and I couldn't drum up ANY interest for AH in the Wargaming club.  All they wanted to do was play Starcraft and Quake.  The USAFA firewall blocked me from even connecting to HT's server.
Title: Modern Aces High
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 19, 2007, 02:36:18 PM
Do a search of the BBS.  I recall Saber even posting some pictures from their excercise.


ack-ack