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Title: Name this (3)
Post by: gripen on March 16, 2007, 04:16:52 PM
Name this:

(http://personal.inet.fi/koti/harri.pihl/Clipboard06.jpg)
Title: Name this (3)
Post by: Airscrew on March 16, 2007, 04:20:48 PM
an airport
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Post by: john9001 on March 16, 2007, 04:45:40 PM
primary target
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Post by: Lusche on March 16, 2007, 04:56:35 PM
seems to be already deacked... vulching time!
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Post by: morfiend on March 16, 2007, 05:02:45 PM
.... Quit showing pictures of my back yard...:furious :furious
Title: Name this (3)
Post by: Solar10 on March 16, 2007, 06:09:39 PM
Intel Dual core
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Post by: NOT on March 16, 2007, 08:21:59 PM
Boeing plant in Atl?




NOT
Title: Name this (3)
Post by: gripen on March 16, 2007, 11:47:17 PM
Maybe some hints are needed; it's about one mile long and at it's peak period (1943) there were over 42000 workers.
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Post by: Ball on March 17, 2007, 04:44:40 AM
guess at boeing plant at seattle?

think i can see ripfart's BMW parked in a carpeted parking space at the top.
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Post by: Speed55 on March 17, 2007, 11:27:06 AM
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Originally posted by Solar10
Intel Dual core


:lol
Title: Name this (3)
Post by: Old Sport on March 17, 2007, 11:28:04 AM
Prolly Willow Run, MI.

Best Regards
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Post by: SteveBailey on March 17, 2007, 04:36:46 PM
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Originally posted by Old Sport
Prolly Willow Run, MI.

Best Regards



wow.  good call  I looked it up on Google.  What is the function at Willow run?
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Post by: Masherbrum on March 17, 2007, 05:22:39 PM
that is YIP, otherwise known as willow run airport.    GM Powertrain is now the operator.   Many other companies/civilians have a hanger there.   If you go to the right of this pic you will see the "Yankee Air Museum" collection, with a B52.
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Post by: gripen on March 17, 2007, 07:14:10 PM
Old Sport got it. Willow Run, Ypsilon, Michigan. Coordinates:

Latitude: 42°14'26.14"N
Longitude: 83°33'1.74"W

(http://personal.inet.fi/koti/harri.pihl/Clipboard07.jpg)

Probably the largest and the most famous US aircraft production plant of the WWII. At it's peak they made about one B-24/hour there. The plant was originally built by Ford but after war there had been many kind of other industry.
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Post by: Wolfala on March 19, 2007, 04:23:11 AM
1 B-24 per hour. Holy ****.
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Post by: Masherbrum on March 19, 2007, 06:02:30 AM
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Originally posted by Wolfala
1 B-24 per hour. Holy ****.


Yes Wolf actually the figure was 1 B-24 every 59 minutes.   Not much remains of the old facility.   Just the large, long building, the rest has been taken away by time, remodels and more recently a fire.   A couple of years back the Yankee Air Museum hanger caught fire (and it was the oldest original hanger from Willow Run Airfield) and they JUST got their B-17 and a B-24.   The B-24 was brought out of the hanger by a WWII era tug AS THE HANGER COLLAPSED.  

I'm going to be donating a few things to them.   Drills, maybe some actual unfired WWII ammo, and other stuff.   The still fly the B-17 and now they are taking rides in the C-47 that they just finished a restore on.
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Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 19, 2007, 11:35:13 AM
Man, built well or not..i would want a few more hours before i would fly mine.
"ehy, you just spend a few more hours making sure everything is welded fully..alright mac?"


Loose a wing because someone wanted to go to lunch early :P
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Post by: frank3 on March 21, 2007, 03:45:15 AM
I'm not sure there were many occasions of faulty construction, perhaps because many airplanes didn't have a long life-span anyway (due to hazardous flying circumstances above Germany!)

But I think the majority of the aircraft were build well enough
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Post by: Masherbrum on March 21, 2007, 08:39:42 AM
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Man, built well or not..i would want a few more hours before i would fly mine.
"ehy, you just spend a few more hours making sure everything is welded fully..alright mac?"


Loose a wing because someone wanted to go to lunch early :P


Different work ethic, and different time.    You CANNOT compare that generation to today's.
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Post by: CptA on March 21, 2007, 09:11:40 AM
I had the great privilege of knowing the late Captain E.C. Spencer, chief pilot for Zantop Air Transport until his retirement.

He was a B-24 instructor and USAAC test pilot who worked at Willow Run during the war. Each and every plane that came off the line was inspected, tested, and flown by Army Air Corps pilots and aircrew.

Yes, mistakes were found, but they were corrected before the planes were accepted by the Air Corps, and then turned over to civilian and military ferry pilots to deliver the planes to their new units.

Most errors were small, like missing or badly set rivets, but sometimes they were more serious, like rudder or aileron control cables installed backwards.

The pilots who had to fly these planes for the first time were understandably VERY careful.

CptA
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Post by: gripen on March 22, 2007, 03:49:04 AM
There was plenty of problems in the beginning of the production at Willow Run (late 1942) and large percentage of planes needed mods, fixes etc. But at the peak of the production (1944/1945) the quality was probably as good (if not better) as elsewhere in the similar plants.

I don't think that mass production itself causes quality problems (in reality situation is probably quite opposite). Ford was car manufacturer and it just took just some time to learn to mass produce airplanes.