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Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: bsdaddict on March 20, 2007, 12:22:07 PM
http://www.selectsmart.com/plus/select.php?url=08frontrunners

my results aren't suprising:

(100%) 1: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (66%) 2: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
  (59%) 3: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (59%) 4: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
  (59%) 5: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (59%) 6: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (48%) 7: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (48%) 8: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
  (48%) 9: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (44%) 10: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
  (44%) 11: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
  (40%) 12: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
  (37%) 13: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
  (37%) 14: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (33%) 15: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
  (33%) 16: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
  (29%) 17: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (29%) 18: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
  (22%) 19: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (22%) 20: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
  (18%) 21: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
  (14%) 22: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
  (0%) 23: Sen. George Allen (R) Withdrew from race.
  (0%) 24: Sen. John Kerry (D) Withdrew from race.
  (0%) 25: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Withdrew from race.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: midnight Target on March 20, 2007, 12:56:58 PM
Percent  Rank  Item  
  (100%) 1: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
  (98%) 2: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
  (81%) 3: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (79%) 4: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
  (75%) 5: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (75%) 6: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
  (72%) 7: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
  (71%) 8: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
  (70%) 9: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
  (67%) 10: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (62%) 11: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
  (52%) 12: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (48%) 13: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
  (46%) 14: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
  (40%) 15: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (39%) 16: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (38%) 17: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
  (33%) 18: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (32%) 19: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
  (29%) 20: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (28%) 21: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (25%) 22: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 20, 2007, 12:59:48 PM
Interesting website.  The guy who I got 100% for (brownback) doesn't represent me 100%.  His BIO even goes against some of the answers I gave.

I wonder why he got 100%?
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Xargos on March 20, 2007, 01:00:59 PM
I got Newted.  :(
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Mightytboy on March 20, 2007, 01:11:57 PM
Rank     Item
   (100%) 1: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
   (100%) 2: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
   (95%) 3: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
   (95%) 4: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
   (94%) 5: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
   (91%) 6: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
   (88%) 7: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
   (88%) 8: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
   (82%) 9: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
   (72%) 10: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
   (69%) 11: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
   (58%) 12: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
   (54%) 13: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
   (53%) 14: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
   (46%) 15: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
   (44%) 16: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
   (40%) 17: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
   (40%) 18: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
   (36%) 19: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
   (27%) 20: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
   (27%) 21: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
   (25%) 22: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
   (0%) 23: Sen. George Allen (R) Withdrew from race.
   (0%) 24: Sen. John Kerry (D) Withdrew from race.
   (0%) 25: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Withdrew from race.

Not really sure this is very accurate.

Hillary shows up on my list so there is something wrong if she isn't dead last.

Same with McCain.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Speed55 on March 20, 2007, 01:18:02 PM
(100%) 1: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
  (90%) 2: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (87%) 3: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (68%) 4: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (63%) 5: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
  (62%) 6: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
  (60%) 7: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
  (59%) 8: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (57%) 9: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (56%) 10: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Hawco on March 20, 2007, 01:32:20 PM
Rank  Item  
  (100%) 1: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
  (97%) 2: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
  (97%) 3: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
  (88%) 4: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (88%) 5: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (85%) 6: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (85%) 7: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
  (82%) 8: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
  (80%) 9: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
  (80%) 10: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (77%) 11: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
  (77%) 12: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (77%) 13: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
  (74%) 14: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
  (60%) 15: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (60%) 16: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (54%) 17: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
  (51%) 18: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (51%) 19: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (48%) 20: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
  (45%) 21: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
  (31%) 22: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R
Bit odd, as I pressed the niether button a few times
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Airscrew on March 20, 2007, 01:35:24 PM
I'm with Mightyboy,  not sure how accurate this is but It is a good place for people to start looking at the candiates

(100%) 1: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
  (92%) 2: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (83%) 3: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (83%) 4: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (81%) 5: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (81%) 6: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (80%) 7: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (78%) 8: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (77%) 9: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
  (72%) 10: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
  (71%) 11: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
  (71%) 12: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (68%) 13: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
  (66%) 14: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (61%) 15: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
  (61%) 16: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
  (55%) 17: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
  (54%) 18: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
  (53%) 19: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
  (52%) 20: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
  (52%) 21: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
  (45%) 22: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
  (0%) 23: Sen. George Allen (R) Withdrew from race.
  (0%) 24: Sen. John Kerry (D) Withdrew from race.
  (0%) 25: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Withdrew from race.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Kieran on March 20, 2007, 02:58:08 PM
(100%) 1: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
(98%) 2: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
(98%) 3: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
(94%) 4: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
(91%) 5: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
(91%) 6: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
(91%) 7: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
(91%) 8: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
(86%) 9: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
(84%) 10: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
(84%) 11: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
(84%) 12: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
(77%) 13: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
(74%) 14: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
(74%) 15: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
(71%) 16: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
(71%) 17: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
(71%) 18: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
(67%) 19: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
(67%) 20: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
(64%) 21: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
(47%) 22: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information

_____________________________ _________________________

Ack. I don't care. Newt won't get my vote.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Sabre on March 20, 2007, 03:10:52 PM
A very poorly written survey, in my opinion.  Many of the issues were worded in such a way that I couldn't agree with either choice, being forced repeatedly to choose "Neither".  This best this will give you is some idea of the ideology of the candidates, i.e. who's worth a closer look.  On the other hand, the comparison tool at

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008/comparethem.html

was much more helpful in seeing where the candidates really stand on most of the key issues.  So, the survey will get you in the ball park, while the comparison tool will help you refine your choice.  The only thing I would have liked to see is more info on voting/veto records of those candidates.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: SirLoin on March 20, 2007, 03:12:47 PM
Joe Biden %100
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 20, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
You don't count.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Goth on March 20, 2007, 05:11:56 PM
(100%) 1: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
  (91%) 2: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (91%) 3: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (82%) 4: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (81%) 5: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (81%) 6: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (80%) 7: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (75%) 8: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (70%) 9: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (63%) 10: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: bsdaddict on March 20, 2007, 05:37:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sabre
The only thing I would have liked to see is more info on voting/veto records of those candidates.

http://www.vote-smart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=BC031929

different site, but here ya go.  Link is to Ron Paul's history (I just love seeing how many things he votes No on...), but you can check whoever you want.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Meatwad on March 20, 2007, 05:44:57 PM
(100%) 1: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (97%) 2: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (97%) 3: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
  (90%) 4: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
  (89%) 5: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (82%) 6: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (82%) 7: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (80%) 8: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (76%) 9: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (76%) 10: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: 1K3 on March 20, 2007, 06:16:11 PM
(100%) 1: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
   (86%) 2: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
   (83%) 3: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
   (83%) 4: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
   (81%) 5: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
   (80%) 6: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
   (80%) 7: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
   (78%) 8: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
   (78%) 9: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
   (73%) 10: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
   (72%) 11: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
   (72%) 12: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
   (65%) 13: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
   (60%) 14: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
   (60%) 15: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
   (59%) 16: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
   (55%) 17: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
   (45%) 18: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
   (45%) 19: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
   (40%) 20: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
   (29%) 21: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
   (22%) 22: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: TracerX on March 20, 2007, 06:55:37 PM
Hmm, I wonder if something was wrong with my test?

(100%) 1: Santa Claus
(86%) 2: Easter Bunny
(83%) 3: Mother Theresa
(83%) 4: Tooth Fairy
(81%) 5: Mother Nature
(80%) 6: Will Rogers

I know it must be broken because I write in Aunt Jemima every year.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: AWMac on March 20, 2007, 10:11:07 PM
(100%)1:Will Rogers
(86%) 2: John Wayne
(83%) 3: Buffalo Bill
(83%) 4: Audie Murphy
(81%) 5: Roy Evans
(80%) 6: Merle Haggard
(78%) 7:Walon Jennings
(77%) 8:Willie Nelson

All my hero's have always been Cowboys.

Mac
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Charon on March 20, 2007, 10:33:18 PM
I had Richardson, but I probably answered neither to more than half the loaded, extreme questions. Hell, most of the questions I DID answere disagree with his stated opinions. The fact that Obama was third on my list is a bit telling to me about how accurate this "test" really is. If Obama was on fire I wouldn't take a Giuliani on him to put it out.

Charon
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: Halo on March 20, 2007, 11:24:30 PM
Thanks, bsdaddict, I really like surveys like this.  As several others commented, this started out with lots of Neither answers.

Judging from what I know about some candicates, I was amazed that supposedly I am 100% for Hillary, and the next four preferences also are Democrats.  

I thought I was more Republican?  

Clearly I have a lot of homework to do before the 2008 election.  :confused:
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: majic on March 21, 2007, 12:10:22 AM
(100%) 1: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
(95%) 2: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
(83%) 3: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
(82%) 4: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
(79%) 5: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
(78%) 6: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
(75%) 7: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
(68%) 8: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
(67%) 9: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
(66%) 10: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information


Of course, most of the options were too simplistic.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: lasersailor184 on March 21, 2007, 12:24:21 AM
Most of the questions were too loaded.  There were 2 questions I didn't want to answer because I didn't agree with any of the choices.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: NOT on March 21, 2007, 02:36:46 AM
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Most of the questions were too loaded. There were 2 questions I didn't want to answer because I didn't agree with any of the choices.


Quote
A very poorly written survey, in my opinion. Many of the issues were worded in such a way that I couldn't agree with either choice, being forced repeatedly to choose "Neither".


i have to agree with sabre, and laser on this one.




NOT
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: namvet on March 21, 2007, 08:29:55 AM
Percent  Rank  Item  
  (100%) 1: Rep. Ron Paul (R) Information
  (100%) 2: Sen. Barack Obama (D) Information
  (98%) 3: Gov. Bill Richardson (D) Information
  (94%) 4: Sen. Joseph Biden (D) Information
  (93%) 5: Ex-VP Al Gore (D) Information
  (89%) 6: Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D) Information
  (81%) 7: Ex-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R) Information
  (69%) 8: Gov. Tom Vilsack (D) Withdrew from race.
  (69%) 9: Sec. Condoleezza Rice (R) Information
  (67%) 10: Gov. George Pataki (R) Information
  (66%) 11: Ex-Sen. John Edwards (D) Information
  (64%) 12: Retired Gen. Wesley Clark (D) Information
  (64%) 13: Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) Information
  (62%) 14: Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) Information
  (61%) 15: Sen. Christopher Dodd (D) Information
  (57%) 16: Sen. Sam Brownback (R) Information
  (55%) 17: Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) Information
  (52%) 18: Sen. John McCain (R) Information
  (50%) 19: Gov. Mitt Romney (R) Information
  (49%) 20: Rep. Duncan Hunter (R) Information
  (44%) 21: Ex-Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) Information
  (33%) 22: Rep. Tom Tancredo (R) Information
  (0%) 23: Sen. George Allen (R) Withdrew from race.
  (0%) 24: Sen. John Kerry (D) Withdrew from race.
  (0%) 25: Sen. Russ Feingold (D) Withdrew from race.
Title: find your presidential match...
Post by: bsdaddict on March 21, 2007, 08:31:51 AM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Most of the questions were too loaded.  There were 2 questions I didn't want to answer because I didn't agree with any of the choices.

there were a few that are very poorly worded.  I think I only ended up answering 2 or 3 "neither", most I just had to reread a couple times.  The tax one, "raise taxes and/or lower spending..." vs. "not concerned with the budget" was one of those.  My first instinct was neither, but then I noticed the "OR lower taxes..."  also confused why they have to word things like "do you support the positions of this organizatiuon...".  anyhoo, I didn't write the dang thing...  :)