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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sweet2th on March 20, 2007, 04:52:07 PM
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This funny stuff now.9 Bish runnin from just 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYW8rlR94ns
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seemed they had bigger fish to fly than u and ur friend.. props to them for sticking with the mission at hand instead of pouncing on 1st thing they saw..
seemed more to me as if you we ignored more so than ran away from..
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Funny. All I see are a bunch of 109s on a mission of some kind bypassing two planes that did not present themselves as any threat.
But, if it makes you feel better to think they "ran" from your uber-leet piloting skills, suit yourself.:aok
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Originally posted by E25280
Funny. All I see are a bunch of 109s on a mission of some kind bypassing two planes that did not present themselves as any threat.
But, if it makes you feel better to think they "ran" from your uber-leet piloting skills, suit yourself.:aok
Funny that we are outnumbered & the LA-7 HO's.I thought a fighter sweep was a fighter sweep?
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What proof have you that it was a "fighter sweep?"
The quality of the video is poor, and you never got close enough to see in any event, but were they heavy? Porking mission, perhaps? (Odd choice of plane for a porking mission, perhaps, but not unheard of.)
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Originally posted by E25280
What proof have you that it was a "fighter sweep?"
The quality of the video is poor, and you never got close enough to see in any event, but were they heavy? Porking mission, perhaps? (Odd choice of plane for a porking mission, perhaps, but not unheard of.)
Traveling to a capped base to devulchify it?
Bronk
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Do you honestly believe 9 guys were on comms saying, "Guys weve got two cons here with us, lets get the hell out of here!" ?
Something tells me not so much.
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I am hoping to get at least 5 new excuses for bish runaway tactix.
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It dont look like you pressed the attack very hard.
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Question is why would anyone run from 1hunglo?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Bronk
Traveling to a capped base to devulchify it?
Bronk
WHAT BISHOPS NO FREKIN WAY MAN WE NOT ROOKS but i would have to agree with Bronk here DID I SAY THAT call the doctor
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Low bro
you single handedly dove in on some 109K4s and climbed back up to 3-4k above them i dont belive i saw you get one kill on that roller coaster ride of a video
i would have to agree with Challenge as well 9 109K4s very fast planes would run from a gang bang. i would belive that you and hellbent where ignored to stay on mission.
the LALA was an outsider that taged along a big group of planes in hope to get some free kills.
now this is in no way to slam or take away from yours and hellbents skills i am sure the two of you could have taken the 9 planes
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Originally posted by Chalenge
It dont look like you pressed the attack very hard.
Look at it again, you will see as i line up on 1 of them they all go the other way, or they try to HO.
LTARkils: You only get 65 rounds of 30mm in that K model so you have to make them count.As soon as i commit on 1 the others will move on me, have to stick & move in that situation.It's just typical that the bish dove down on the easier targets.
Last time i checked a Fighter Sweep mission was for sweeping an area and clearing it of all enemy planes, this must just be an example of how the Bishops' do it.
BTW: Kills are not what i am after in this GAME anymore.I am after the bomber formations up High, if i run into someone at High ALT that is doing the same thing as myself thats even better for it's turns into the second thing i look for in AH; the High ALT duel.The kind of Duel that lasts for more than 3 mins. and doesn't include HO-N-GO tactix and after it's over the front lobe of your head is pounding from the FUN.
:aok
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Originally posted by Chalenge
It dont look like you pressed the attack very hard.
He might could have pressed the attack a smidge harder, but notice they are at Higher altitude.......... press it to hard and you be below the clouds !
and the La7 was out of its element that high, HO is about all it could do, rofl.....
if they ran away ( I really not a clue if they ran or not ) it was more than likely because everytime they tryed to YANK AND BANK they experienced the stall horn and buffet and lost E, so they did the right thing and left......then again the ones that stayed could have said, "we'll take care of these 2, the rest of ya carry on with the plan"......who knows? does it matter?
dogfighting above 20k vs dogfighting below 10k is as different as salt & pepper....
the clip shows that the enemy did not have a good hold on High alt fighting/flying and it shows that 1HungLo and helbent did........
my take of it anyhow........
edit: geez I typed tooooo slowwwww didn't see where anyone had mentioned the High Alt, dangit hunglo beat me to it....:p
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I'll go ahead and drop this
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/dichotomy/PURSEWOUNDSBOOK.jpg)
here..
yall have fun now ya heah?
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
Look at it again, you will see as i line up on 1 of them they all go the other way, or they try to HO.
Really? The video is so disjointed that it's sorta hard to tell what exactly is going on, but I see you fail to turn what seems to be an advantageous position into any sort of a guns solution at all while they just tool on their merry way, obviously on to bigger & better things.
Looks like an example of good squad cohesion to me. No need to abort whatever mission they mighta been on solely for a pair of guys who neevr showed that they were any real threat.
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I suffered through your whole film and didn't see one HO attempt. Without the intro you gave it in this thread I would have assumed you were just taking pictures of the mission rather than attacking it. I did see you (I assume that was you in the 109) pass up at least two golden opportunities, one of them would have given you a high speed pass through their formation and even if you didn't bag one or two doing it you'd have split the mission up and likely created a few opportunities for kills.
FYI, the 109's are really quite agile. You might want to attend Widewing's CT prep school to see just what the 109's can do at alt.
asw
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
Look at it again, you will see as i line up on 1 of them they all go the other way, or they try to HO.
LTARkils: You only get 65 rounds of 30mm in that K model so you have to make them count.As soon as i commit on 1 the others will move on me, have to stick & move in that situation.It's just typical that the bish dove down on the easier targets.
Last time i checked a Fighter Sweep mission was for sweeping an area and clearing it of all enemy planes, this must just be an example of how the Bishops' do it.
BTW: Kills are not what i am after in this GAME anymore.I am after the bomber formations up High, if i run into someone at High ALT that is doing the same thing as myself thats even better for it's turns into the second thing i look for in AH; the High ALT duel.The kind of Duel that lasts for more than 3 mins. and doesn't include HO-N-GO tactix and after it's over the front lobe of your head is pounding from the FUN.
:aok
ok bro first off i have never known the bish to do a fighter sweep thats just funny the first time i heard it. bish dont do fighter sweeps they might have put a mission together to go attack a base and turn into a big furball between the bases but thats about it.
so you saying if a plane dives on you with the same alt you had on all those planes that you wouldnt move you would just sit there let me answer that for you ya you would.
I know how many rounds a K4 carries trust me storch kills me all the time i count his rounds.
well glad to hear another say its not about score but flying at ALT like that what where you 20k. you want high alt fighting take a P47 on in your 109K4 at 30k see how the real pilots did it in WWII wasnt easy like your diving in and climbing out. at 330k your 109 will stall left and right.
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LOL That was the funniest thing I ever saw. The onyl part that is funny is you thinking it was a fighter sweep. If it was a fighter sweep I dont think you would have posted a film of you getting shot down.
I think it was a squad mission and were after something more important then 2 Cons as stated periously who made no attempt at trying to kill them. Hell everyone time you dove down in to so call "Engage them" and they made a slight turn to engage you pulled back up. Before you can say someone is running away please show us something that shows you engage a fighter and him run.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
This funny stuff now.9 Bish runnin from just 2.
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c62/Masherbrum/Crocs.jpg)
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Originally posted by detch01
I suffered through your whole film and didn't see one HO attempt. Without the intro you gave it in this thread I would have assumed you were just taking pictures of the mission rather than attacking it. I did see you (I assume that was you in the 109) pass up at least two golden opportunities, one of them would have given you a high speed pass through their formation and even if you didn't bag one or two doing it you'd have split the mission up and likely created a few opportunities for kills.
FYI, the 109's are really quite agile. You might want to attend Widewing's CT prep school to see just what the 109's can do at alt.
asw
So your as blind as stevie wonder now?You don't see Birddog1 making HO Passes in a La-7?
FYI- that wasn't a squad mission.
FYI-I have been a part of many fighter sweep missions on the Bishops side.
FYI-There are many ways to fly the 109.
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the raw film footage might be helpful here, 1HungLo, to fill in the missing parts....
if it was a mission or what not, funny how they all together at the beginning and at or near the end they all flying off in different directions....also the film is a bit misleading at the start, because you have no sense of speed (E) when cons come in to view, 1HungLo is slightly below or co alt with the 109s, after he gets closer/engages and drops below them , does he show his speed when looping back over.
notice in the film that as he initially comes in on the 109s , they are dropping alt as well (prehaps to build their speed ? ), so when he gets to them he just rolls over and comes in.......
( really be nice to see the ahf file of this video clip )
hard to believe 9 vs 2 and the nine did not attempt to kill them except for the La7(which did fire a frontal shot around 4:10 of the film ) and a cple of 109s, they started out together, ended flying off in different directions, and hard to believe noone lost their plane from either side......
(was this choreographed?)
did anyone watch the clip more than once? did anyone truly analyze the clip?
a video clip leaves alot to be desired when talking about dogfighting.........raw film is the way to go.....
1HungLo, don't just quote asw, heck seems I am the only one who sees it from er perspective, everyone else wants to slap ya down.... prob because the way you titled the videoclip and the thread.... them chess piece loyalist fixing to hang ya and you be hunglonomo.......the film is a tad hard to follow got to watch it more than a few times
the ahf film will backup your FYI's maybe........
not alot of excitement from the video point of view, not any low upclose knife fighting , don't see no fires, but geez people 9 bish should have tore these 2 up or at least got 1 of them........and what the heck can 9 109's do in a mission ( as in attacking/Jabo mission?) they either on a fighter sweep or was enroute to escort some buffs :aok
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Wow, that's like 5 minutes of you pulling Immlemans and never once making a successful merge despite there being a sky full of red. Didn't see a Head On.
Interesting film. Aces High as viewed on an Atari?
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The La7 took a quick head on shot towards the end of the video. You will see tracers fly pass the 109.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
So your as blind as stevie wonder now?You don't see Birddog1 making HO Passes in a La-7?
I saw the La take two shots sort of in your direction from in front of your 3-9 line, both times he didn't have a solution. That doesn't qualify as a HO, not in my books. A waste of ammunition certainly, but not a HO. Although it probably will qualify as HO for the crowd who figure any shot taken at them from in front of their 3-9 line is a HO. Maybe you can sell this to them. GL with that.
FYI- that wasn't a squad mission.
I didn't say anything about a squad mission, I said mission. Do I care if it was all formed up using the mission editor? No. A bunch of players in the same ride going in the same direction, more or less in a coherent gaggle is most likely a mission.
FYI-There are many ways to fly the 109.
Yes there are, I am hoping you discover one of them.
You pop onto these boards with a link to a film and some comments aimed at belittling other players and inflating your ego yet the film doesn't support your story. WTG your leetness :aok
asw
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LMAO @ hunglonomo
I have no way of hosting the raw footage or i would have.I would have prefered putting up the raw footage then you would see that they indeed ran away.
Just because i am not kill hungry and need wtg's from others to enjoy my 15$.After playing AH this long i have developed patience to wait for the shot i want.....The 6 shot.....which few in this " GAME " actually go for anymore, but there are others like myself out there.
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ALL generalizations are stupid, even this one.
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You missed the main point
WHO REALLY CARES !!
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Originally posted by VooWho
The La7 took a quick head on shot towards the end of the video. You will see tracers fly pass the 109.
Yup, I saw that and yet that wasn't a HO.
A HO, in the simplest terminology is when both aircraft can get guns on each other at the same moment and no lead is needed. The 109 was nose down, the LA would have to nose down and lead to even have a chance of hitting.
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Saw bunch of red planes, 2 freindlies..
Neither side actually trying to press very hard to kill the other..
It looks to me as if you were ignored for the most part...
I have flown Fighter Sweeps as BISH to head to uncap a base in trouble (the are actuallly quite fun)...
I have been in missions (whether or not sqaud missions) where our flight has been "uncovered" by one or two bad guys... It is nothing to send off one plane ( possibly the La) or two to keep the bogeys dancing a bit while others stay on target...
It would be nice if any bish who was part of that flight would post as to what they actually were doing (just fo the sake of having both sides of the story)..
Although to me it basically looks as if the bish planes ignored your two planes without hearing the other sides point of view its all speculation.
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I couldn't even watch the whole film. Of the half or so I watched all I saw was two planes passing 9 planes... Yawn.
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The point here is that it could have been a really good fight instead of them running to the deck.I like those odds, it gives me more targets to shoot at and less people too steal my kill.But if the other planes don't see an easy option too ending my flight plan they simply run too the deck looking for the easy targets.It's quite sad really that 9 Bf-109's wouldn't engage with 2 Bf-109's, this is just typical Main Arena Gameplay though.
I will see you Bishes in the sky's.:aok
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I know the starter of this thread is a noob so I am go deduce that his rediculous opening statement stems from noobery and not plain old stupidity.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
The point here is that it could have been a really good fight
:huh
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I am not asking..I am demanding my four mins back. I am not sure what is more sad. The fact that you think they ran away from you or your flying. All you did was waste fuel. Then you came here and wasted everyones time with that sillyass video. I thought it was going to be something neat..like you smoking four or five of them. Insted I had to watch and wonder how it is you fly in 640x480.
-BB
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I'll be over here watching some paint dry
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One thing I will say about a guy named birdshot or bird something he has an awful connection and warps in and out of the twlight zone repeatedly.
He shouldnt be able to up fighters at all until he sorts it out. His preference for an LA7 and HO shots are criminal. I feel sorry for him because he probably cant take any other shot because of the lag.
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Originally posted by Bruv119
One thing I will say about a guy named birdshot or bird something he has an awful connection and warps in and out of the twlight zone repeatedly.
He shouldnt be able to up fighters at all until he sorts it out. His preference for an LA7 and HO shots are criminal. I feel sorry for him because he probably cant take any other shot because of the lag.
Could it be BIRD8? This guy was warpin all over last night.
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I dont think it was Bird8 but add him to the list anyway ;)
Would like to see HT clamp down on these types nothing seems to be done apart from everyone politely asking them to reboot. If they havent got 200 tuned or don't realise they have a problem can spoil the experience somewhat.
example: Your having a decent fight outnumbered all under control then here comes the laggy bugger with E and warp spraying cannon everywhere. Try and get out of his way (whatever way he thinks he is pointing) then the friendlies all decide to turn and fight because they see your predicament and take advantage of it where normally they would be dead already.
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I watched the film, and I thought it was funny when Pistachio was wearing his underwear on his head. Oh, and that Brazilian disguise was hilarious.
NOT
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
The point here is that it could have been a really good fight instead of them running to the deck.I like those odds, it gives me more targets to shoot at and less people too steal my kill.But if the other planes don't see an easy option too ending my flight plan they simply run too the deck looking for the easy targets.It's quite sad really that 9 Bf-109's wouldn't engage with 2 Bf-109's, this is just typical Main Arena Gameplay though.
I will see you Bishes in the sky's.:aok
Again, this ISN'T typical arena gameplay. A whole group flying togther on their way to accomplish something and NOT splintering to chase one or two goofballs? That's fairly atypical of the main arenas.
What IS typical is some goober trying to build himself up and failing miserably at it.
Where's the part where they go running for the deck? Nothing in that video leads me to believe that any of them are much lower at the end of your aerobatic display (didn't actually see any real BFM leading to guns solutions there, just some loops) than they were at the beginning. Where's the orginal .ahf file?
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Nice catch sweet:lol You gonna keep them bigger ones or throw them all back? BTW I think in reference that LA attempted the HO, sweet avoided it. It might take 2 to HO but I find it certainly only takes 1 to attempt it.
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Scared bishop ..?! you must be kiding,,,..
Last weekend after i was watching "300" movie, i was thinking :
We bish are like spartans !!
full of robustly hairy virile men fighting like real men, brave , we never surender, pure testosterone hyper-macho brutal beauty and we are the heroes of intim erotic dreams of all the north american overweight chicks,
and you must be jealous
(http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0703/d747456517da22426551.jpeg)
(http://www.vidfad.com/images/300-movie03.jpg)
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that 300 movie is sweet......Maybe not the best acting, but any movie with slow-mo action scenes involving swords, warriors, and some serious pwnage gets high marks from me.
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Originally posted by ghi
Scared bishop ..?! you must be kiding,,,..
Last weekend after i was watching "300" movie, i was thinking :
We bish are like spartans !!
full of robustly hairy virile men fighting like real men, brave , we never surender, pure testosterone hyper-macho brutal beauty and we are the heroes of intim erotic dreams of all the north american overweight chicks,
and you must be jealous
(http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0703/d747456517da22426551.jpeg)
(http://www.vidfad.com/images/300-movie03.jpg)
Funny you posted that GHI, cuz your one of the bish that tryed to engage then ran away.:aok
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Originally posted by Bruv119
One thing I will say about a guy named birdshot or bird something he has an awful connection and warps in and out of the twlight zone repeatedly.
He shouldnt be able to up fighters at all until he sorts it out. His preference for an LA7 and HO shots are criminal. I feel sorry for him because he probably cant take any other shot because of the lag.
Your right that guys warps all over the place.His Game ID is : Birddog1
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Originally posted by ghi
Scared bishop ..?! you must be kiding,,,..
Last weekend after i was watching "300" movie, i was thinking :
We bish are like spartans !!
full of robustly hairy virile men fighting like real men, brave , we never surender, pure testosterone hyper-macho brutal beauty and we are the heroes of intim erotic dreams of all the north american overweight chicks,
and you must be jealous
Once you lose your perch Ghi and you can no longer cherry pick, you run. Save the bravado for some 2 week newbie.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Nice catch sweet:lol You gonna keep them bigger ones or throw them all back? BTW I think in reference that LA attempted the HO, sweet avoided it. It might take 2 to HO but I find it certainly only takes 1 to attempt it.
sorry for the video quality, was first attempt at it using the codec's skuzzy said to use.The LA-7 tryed the HO twice but since i corrected and he missed
it was a deflection,LMAO @ that 1.
You'll notice that i lined up several targets but that Helbent was the only one to drag 2 away from the goal.It worked out well though for at the time i had 2 kills & helbent had only one and i was tryin to get him one for we had just re-armed and went back up when we ran into the 109's.I counted 5 of the 9 planes trying to engage.
I noticed a majority of the responses involved " there was no kills & i am bored" ----well it's not always about the kills, it's about the FUN, and thats how i have fun, setting dumbarses up for others.
Maybe one of you will run into my wingman & i.Hopefully whoever it is won't run away.
See you in the sky Bishes:aok
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Once you lose your perch Ghi and you can no longer cherry pick, you run. Save the bravado for some 2 week newbie.
You mean once he loses his energy advantage he disengages it to rebuild E and recommence the attack from a superior position, so as to not find himself hovering over the deck with zero E while fresh enemy cons are coming into the fray.
How dare he.
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This kind of reminds me of a yappy little dog chasing a truck.
shamus
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I was attacking the bish last night and we had a good furball going but still I saw not only newbs, but vets doing nothing but flying straight at people blazing guns. I was keeping my speed and dodging they're HO's and then pulling their 6 and killing them. What amazed me about it though, was the lack of any other type of attack. Ther was only two fellas that I saw that did anything different other than up the field fly level at the enemy and HO n pray, and that was N2DEEP, at least he gained alt and tried to cherry pick, and Ghi who gained a little alt in an la7 but ran when he lost it! For as much as this is a "flight" simulator, many never fully learn the "how", to successfully master the simulated aircraft we have available. They just fly at someone and start firing. This used to be considered a newb move but I see many "vets" doing this. Now the MA's are filled with two or three main types of players: 1. guys that will run, even if they have all the advantages, if they see that you know they are there. If they don't get an afk kill, they simplly will fly away......ie run dweebs 2. guys that just up the field and fly straight and level at the enemy firing at any plane that comes near their guns and never trying to set up their kill at all.......ie HO dweebs 3. guys that will only attack planes that are fighting other planes, and if they miss their shot they climb way back up above the fight to try again.......cherry pik dweebs. Now many would say that these are the ways they are having fun, and I don't disagree, yet I would say that they might have much more fun if they learned a little about how to fight in a simulated aircraft. Out of the 7 sorties I flew over there, I had close to 50 kills to only 5 deaths. Only one of my deaths came during a 1 vs 1 and that was when Ghi picked me while I talked on squad vox. The other times I lost it was at least 1 vs 3+ and up to 1 vs 6+. In other words, their tactics did not work, I killed them with ease, I dodged probably 50 HO attempts and usually would kill the HO attempter soon afterwards and got hit by a HO only once. In short, the HO and run tactics are just someone stating that they have yet to complete the course in acm!:aok
Mark
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You should know the bish were on there way to bomb something.
If they wanted to dog fight they would be flying over one of their bases and about 2k, staying in there ack.
Silly man.
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Originally posted by stockli
If they wanted to dog fight they would be flying over one of their bases and about 2k, staying in there ack.
Silly man.
And if it were the Knights, they'd've brought a high goon, dropped troops over the base and started vulching while the ack was concentrating on the little men.
Is there anything that can be done about the above? I saw this done 4 times yesterday. Some kind of penalization? For every troops that dies from a goon drop, the pilot gets a 0.2 death recorded on his score or something. Talk about gamey.
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Originally posted by quintv
You mean once he loses his energy advantage he disengages it to rebuild E and recommence the attack from a superior position, so as to not find himself hovering over the deck with zero E while fresh enemy cons are coming into the fray.
How dare he.
You'd be wrong, but then again, I don't lie.
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Wow ... that was a huge waste of time ... absolutely no meat or potatoes in that video.
I would say the suckage was the common denominator for all in that video.
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Yep Sweet2th...you owe me 4min53seconds of my life back:O
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Time to call BS. I see ghi fighting outnumbered and stuff all the time why would he run from two planes when there are so many numbers around? If he was really there then he was on a mission. Cant be all that.
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Originally posted by Chalenge
Time to call BS. I see ghi fighting outnumbered and stuff all the time why would he run from two planes when there are so many numbers around? If he was really there then he was on a mission. Cant be all that.
Unpossible.
Clearly the large group was so in awe of the spectacular ACM and gunnery of the two attackers, so blinded by the brilliance of their skill, that they had no option but to cower in fear of such uberness.
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Originally posted by Chalenge
Time to call BS. I see ghi fighting outnumbered and stuff all the time why would he run from two planes when there are so many numbers around? If he was really there then he was on a mission. Cant be all that.
He's run from me before when he was "met at alt" and couldn't turn his cherry-picking K4. I've seen him run many times from not only me, but other folks.
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and couldn't turn his cherry-picking K4
blashpemy...this can not be so :huh :confused: :furious
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Ghi flys fighters?
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I know you really meant SACRED BISHOPS... As in gaze up at our Godlike prowess and pray lest you meet your maker.
Now, all bow to the Great and Powerful Bish.
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Originally posted by killnu
blashpemy...this can not be so :huh :confused: :furious
:rofl
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I do believe that it was a mission to recover some air supremecy at 42. Seems to me youd be worried about 2 high buff hunters and try to stop their endeavors.
Im not saying they were scrared, but I was expecting a full on assault that never materialized. Expecting a 9vs 2 assault, we were doing the right thing, keeping E, boring as it may look. I just couldnt belive that this flight went away, and expressed my amazement with 1hunglo.
I believe we did catch a couple of these guys later in the sortie.
I started Aces High as a bish. First with the 367th (my old WB squad)as piston. Rapidly I became tired of nothing but horde fighting and returned to WB for a stint.
Upon my return to AH I was flying with FATE, and I was told I had to learn how to fight "The Bish Way". I couldnt stand how at least 50% would hold back and not push the fight towards enemy base. I became tired a being one of the only forecheckers out doing the dirty work (ghi was one bish out there forechecking with me, personally I think ghi is a great fighter not scared to take on the tough battles and I ghi as a worthy opponent). So I said the heck with your bish way, Im going rook and have been happy fighting with brave rooks ever since.
It just seems to me that the bish only fight if the horde is in full swing. Call it what you will, flying smart or flying chicken, but I am here to fight and fight I will do. Of course, you can see shades of this with all countries from time to time, but its more predominant with the bish. If "flying the bish way" is what you do then expect to be called chickens. I dont even like going up against bish usually, cuz they dont want to fight that 1v1, instead drag you to the ack or their awaiting 10 guys. Maybe if the bish would grow a pair and not be so scared to lose a silly cartoon plane Id feel differently, but I do not care for how the bish choose to fight.
I did not choose to be included in this post, but I call a spade a spade and thats how I see it.
Ive had some serious fights with 1hunglo in the past, taking more than my share of lumps, but also gettin me some to. I jumped at the chance to fly with him instead of against, even tho im not a K driver, and had a good time. We flew well together setting each other up. man
HB
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Off topic.
Helbent
Bronk
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We still luv ya Pappy's :D
< S >
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What I want to know is who is 1hunglo and how stupendous are his fighter skills to drive off a whole hoard of enemy fighters cause I've seen some good sticks but his name don't come to mind - maybe I missed something.
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It just seems to me that the bish only fight if the horde is in full swing. Call it what you will, flying smart or flying chicken, but I am here to fight and fight I will do. Of course, you can see shades of this with all countries from time to time, but its more predominant with the bish. If "flying the bish way" is what you do then expect to be called chickens. I dont even like going up against bish usually, cuz they dont want to fight that 1v1, instead drag you to the ack or their awaiting 10 guys. Maybe if the bish would grow a pair and not be so scared to lose a silly cartoon plane Id feel differently, but I do not care for how the bish choose to fight.
I can't believe you two noobs seriously think that one side is significantly different than the other.
:huh
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Originally posted by RELIC
What I want to know is who is 1hunglo and how stupendous are his fighter skills to drive off a whole hoard of enemy fighters cause I've seen some good sticks but his name don't come to mind - maybe I missed something.
Amen Relic. I've never heard of this noob.
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Originally posted by helbent
I did not choose to be included in this post, but I call a spade a spade and thats how I see it.
Ive had some serious fights with 1hunglo in the past, taking more than my share of lumps, but also gettin me some to. I jumped at the chance to fly with him instead of against, even tho im not a K driver, and had a good time. We flew well together setting each other up. man
HB
to you too Bro.
We need to get some more flights in maybe as a schwarm next time.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Amen Relic. I've never heard of this noob.
Sweet2th nor 1hunglo are in AH2 scores. He's just another shades who never stood out before with his old handle, now he's trying to "make a name for himself".
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sweet2th nor 1hunglo are in AH2 scores. He's just another shades who never stood out before with his old handle, now he's trying to "make a name for himself".
Try using a "w" after 1hunglo.
Todd420/autopilot never could spell . . .
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sweet2th nor 1hunglo are in AH2 scores. He's just another shades who never stood out before with his old handle, now he's trying to "make a name for himself".
Well he did do that :)
shamus
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SteveBailey
For the most part, all countries are pretty much the same. And rubber bullets happen in cycles for everyone as well as amazing bullets. However, facts are facts and the bish fight like weenies!!!
1hunglo first started killing me about 4 years ago. (thats when i met him)
Ive been flying since about 97, flew air warrior, flying circus, skyfighters, warbirds, target rabaul, aces high 1, aces high 2.
We are not noobs dammit :furious
-helbound
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Well there is a player named "1hungloe" but after looking at his fighter scores:
Tour 86 Fighter Scores for 1HungLoe
Score Rank
Kills per Death + 1 0.87 1720
Kills per Sortie 0.45 2291
Kills per Hour of Flight 1.94 3406
Kills Hit Percentage 8.51 417
Kill Points 8203.61 1245
I can't image that he would be braggin on the boards....
:confused:
MUST be someone else. ;)
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Originally posted by Shamus
Well he did do that :)
shamus
BUT, it isn't going the way "he expected it" to.
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Well im not bragging by any means. Im just a reluctant involver type a guy.
When I watched the film, right away I knew what it was. Not good. Please dont show my name plz plz plz oh crap there it is bigger than S@#$, helbent.
Oh great, get the fan ready, here comes the shinola
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Originally posted by helbent
Well im not bragging by any means. Im just a reluctant involver type a guy.
When I watched the film, right away I knew what it was. Not good. Please dont show my name plz plz plz oh crap there it is bigger than S@#$, helbent.
Oh great, get the fan ready, here comes the shinola
Too this day it still amazes me how much effort these gurls put into researchin somebody.Lookin up your scores, like they are some sort of Mod nerd squad.
Keep it up guys!:aok
How many more excuses can they come up with?
Helbent is right, they do fight like weenies.
Keep an eye too the SKY and yer crack near the Ack Bishez !:aok
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Seen some ignorance in here before but the above tops it all, wtg!
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OK, I started a post, decided not to post it because it wasn't me, came back and now I'm pissed off.
Place a big bad target on my back but I'm sick of the lame Bish bashing generalizations being made in this thread.
Come find me. I won't run. I won't be part of a hoard. I won't "fight like a weenie". I wont come in at over 20K and only cherry pick (sound familiar anyone named Rook?).
I might not live but I'll put up my best fight.
Yep, I looked up 1Hungloes scores too. 17xx fighter rank. 13xx overall. He s**ks and he comes here starting a Bish bashing thread. Well, come find me Mr. Uberness and bring your buddies 'cause you're going to need them... I'll even spot you... I'll take an EW plane, you fly a LW monster.
Now, like I said, this isn't really me. I just want to play and have fun but when you group me with others that might play differently and generalize me into the same catagories I take offense but, like I also said, here's the target. I'm usually in a 10 on 1 anyway so what's the difference? Hmmm... what was that about ack running hoarders (Knights)?
Face it, every type of player and play exists on all three sides.
to those who know better and death to the dweebs that don't (thumps chest).
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Yep, I looked up 1Hungloes scores too. 17xx fighter rank
I'm not a big fan of the ranking system but I will say that in the film I saw some of the most timid and ineffective flying I've seen someone post while calling someone else a runner.
I'm not a bish typically mind you.. I just think 1hungloe has made a foolish generalization about bish with a film that, ironically, showed his own timid actions. Really I'm a bit embarrassed for him... watching the film made me squirm at what some people consider fighting.
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I see he posted this in the films forum too. I can't believe this guy.
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Sweet2th has "always been different, and slow". He thinks his avatar will allow him "scare tactics".
He has NOTHING ELSE to bring to the table. As other's have stated, his score (while not always a litmus test) sucks, and the film PROVES without a doubt, he had NO BUSINESS bashing Bish. Sweet2th, you need some DA time.
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U wanna see pathetic scores look me up! I think my got down around 1500 in fighter once.
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I'm worse than you :aok
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Originally posted by SuperDud
U wanna see pathetic scores look me up! I think my got down around 1500 in fighter once.
Scorepotato ;).
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I'm 733T!
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
I'm not a big fan of the ranking system but I will say that in the film I saw some of the most timid and ineffective flying I've seen someone post while calling someone else a runner.
I'm not a bish typically mind you.. I just think 1hungloe has made a foolish generalization about bish with a film that, ironically, showed his own timid actions. Really I'm a bit embarrassed for him... watching the film made me squirm at what some people consider fighting.
I agree with Steve on this one, at least two of those 109's would be dead, I mean it's 109 against 109 surely they can't just "outrun" you! :aok
Mark
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Whats that music? Great stuff!!
Matt
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LMBO at this thread.
All sides have ack huggers.
All sides have alt monkeys.
All sides horde.
Ect... Ect... Ect...
Keep up the generalizations.
Please continue the purse swinging.
Bronk
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/dichotomy/skyskuzz.jpg)
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Originally posted by SkyRock
I agree with Steve on this one, at least two of those 109's would be dead, I mean it's 109 against 109 surely they can't just "outrun" you! :aok
Mark
Especially if YOU have alt on them, as you did.
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You all might find this amusing.
From auto's duplicate posting in film forum.
His idea of a good fight.
Originally posted by Sweet2th
I don't know about you but when myself & 8 of my friends are that high in 109's and we run into 2- 109's that are slightly higher, hat looks like a good fight to me.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Might explain just a bit of his film. He needs 4 on 1 directly fighting with 1 more as the picker.
He needed 44 additional AC plus his, to engage seriously.
If he wanted a "good fight".:rolleyes:
Bronk
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Originally posted by Dichotomy
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/dichotomy/skyskuzz.jpg)
lol. you've had some good ones lately dichotomy:)
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I'm not going to watch the film because im psychic...
1) a fiter sweep/mission should stay on its obejective...especially if it runs into higher alt planes.
2) if you had alt on this mission...then you should have been able to run them down??? in a similar situation i would tell my boys to "level for speed" because we probably had been climbing to that point and only about 210 speed. i might send one guy over to occupy an interceptor....
3) let me get this point straight...you and your buddy were playing alt monkey because you were "buff hunting" and you want to tell people what a great fight is?????????????????:huh ill go ask my 4th grader where to invest our savings....she might be able to lend me a similar perspective.
ill turn this thread over to skuzzy....:aok
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
The point here is that it could have been a really good fight instead of them running to the deck.I like those odds, it gives me more targets to shoot at and less people too steal my kill.But if the other planes don't see an easy option too ending my flight plan they simply run too the deck looking for the easy targets.It's quite sad really that 9 Bf-109's wouldn't engage with 2 Bf-109's, this is just typical Main Arena Gameplay though.
I will see you Bishes in the sky's.:aok
Your entire 'argument' or point, is based on the supposition you were important enough for them to bother with.
Believe it or not, entertaining you isn't every ones priority.
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Originally posted by SuperDud
U wanna see pathetic scores look me up! I think my got down around 1500 in fighter once.
With the way you look in that skirt, we tend to forgive your short comings.
ack-ack
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I wub u AckAck!
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A lot of wasted HOTAIR in this thread , including my own perhaps.......
a viable solution would be everyone that commented either hop on the AH dueling ladder setup by sourkraut or the one by TW9 and challenge each other
or all you HOTAIR blowing replyers and even the thread poster show up for KOTH Saturday night at 9 pm EDT
and show what ya got or what you think you got but don't..........
no balls no blue chips ............
some of you, I do not doubt your skill and ability to offer a intense challenging fight, but the total of the some is less than the fingers on my 2 hands......
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Originally posted by TequilaChaser
A lot of wasted HOTAIR in this thread , including my own perhaps.......
a viable solution would be everyone that commented either hop on the AH dueling ladder setup by sourkraut or the one by TW9 and challenge each other
or all you HOTAIR blowing replyers and even the thread poster show up for KOTH Saturday night at 9 pm EDT
and show what ya got or what you think you got but don't..........
no balls no blue chips ............
some of you, I do not doubt your skill and ability to offer a intense challenging fight, but the total of the some is less than the fingers on my 2 hands......
for the record, and i hope you don't mind me asking.........how many fingers do you have, and are you counting thumbs:):p
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Originally posted by pluck
for the record, and i hope you don't mind me asking.........how many fingers do you have, and are you counting thumbs:):p
rofl....I thought thumbs were fingers too.........so that would be 10 I do believe:D
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This mission was prolly a ghi mission limited by eny to 109K4, those missions are intended to break the cap at a certain base. Ignoring the cons while going to target is very importnat on those missions.
now if you want some real mission killing watch this, its fast and fun
Mission Killing (http://mapage.noos.fr/rsm/killing_mission.ahf)
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I have edited the last part of the flight from that day.At this point Helbent has picked him a target which happens to be Sirnuke3.
This brief film will is a perfect example of what you see in the MA today.
Enjoy it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg-MWV--TD4
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Originally posted by Keiler
Whats that music? Great stuff!!
Matt
It's the newest single from Nine Inch Nails called Survivalism.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
I have edited the last part of the flight from that day.At this point Helbent has picked him a target which happens to be Sirnuke3.
This brief film will is a perfect example of what you see in the MA today.
Enjoy it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg-MWV--TD4
:huh
what is your point here???
1. sirnuke is at 3 to 1 odds...
2. you are on his 6 and cant make a shot from 400 yards....
3. you perform a move that is so bad there is no ACM name for it except the "Don't EVER do this when you are 400 yards off of someone's six" maneuver.
4. Helbent and spoon take turns on the guy (who is now shooting AT you) til one of them nails him...
Dude...i'ld say you were drunk when you were flying AND decided to post this to prove a point...but you actually edited a movie with a 13 y.o. "white boy wannabe something else" musical score and posted it???
:huh :eek: :rolleyes:
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OK if this is suppose to be a follow on to the Bish running it dont look like to me. Now i Have flown against Helbent and I know he is a descent stick. You should be thankful he was there to bail you out cause if not SirNuke would have whiped the floor with you as evident form your own film. You have yet to prove the Bish running and if this film proofs anything then it would be your werent a real threat to the Bish Mission and no wonder you were ignored.
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Honestly..please stop..my side hurts from laughing. Wtf..you were 400 out in the slot for for 26 seconds and couldnt make the kill..your aim is bad. You are lucky it was three to one odds..one on one you would have been a dead duck. You posted a video of you missing and someone else making a kill to boost your own ego..now that is classic. :aok
-BB
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Cool am on Youtube ! I really doubt that was me thougt, and my film is better ! nah :P
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Originally posted by Noir
Cool am on Youtube ! I really doubt that was me thougt, and my film is better ! nah :P
That was you, if you want i'll email you the entire film?
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Originally posted by BBBB
Honestly..please stop..my side hurts from laughing. Wtf..you were 400 out in the slot for for 26 seconds and couldnt make the kill..your aim is bad. You are lucky it was three to one odds..one on one you would have been a dead duck. You posted a video of you missing and someone else making a kill to boost your own ego..now that is classic. :aok
-BB
You keep thinkin that:aok
when you fly the K it's cannon must be accurate all of the sudden at 400 Yards?
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
:huh
what is your point here???
1. sirnuke is at 3 to 1 odds...
The other plane is a Babyseal and he is over 3.5 yards away, nice try though.
In reality you'll see me look back for a second to see helbent's distance from myself, then you'll see me sucker him into the move.
WORKX every time.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
I have edited the last part of the flight from that day.At this point Helbent has picked him a target which happens to be Sirnuke3.
This brief film will is a perfect example of what you see in the MA today.
Enjoy it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg-MWV--TD4
That was an example of a 109 sprayin' and prayin' from 600-400K out and then letting the better pilot finish something he couldn't do.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
The other plane is a Babyseal and he is over 3.5 yards away, nice try though.
In reality you'll see me look back for a second to see helbent's distance from myself, then you'll see me sucker him into the move.
WORKX every time.
Go back to the H2H Arena.
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Originally posted by FALCONWING
:huh
3. you perform a move that is so bad there is no ACM name for it except the "Don't EVER do this when you are 400 yards off of someone's six" maneuver.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
It looked to me like, after spraying and praying from 400 without a single hit he went from hunter to hunted with that "move"... works every time :rofl :rofl :rofl Then a real pilot came in for the quick kill.
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Watch this 3v1...I shot all my ammo and missed, I didn't get the kill the good stick did.
I r uber!!!!
:rofl
shamus
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Originally posted by SlapShot
That was an example of a 109 sprayin' and prayin' from 600-400K out and then letting the better pilot finish something he couldn't do.
I know this will be hard for some of you HO-N-GO types to believe, but i did all that on purpose.All Sirnuke3 was gonna do was RUN, like about 85% of the players in the MA do these days.It's simple really, your wingman must be atleast 1.5 from you when you turn around to show the run away bish your six, every time they will follow you it's just a matter of getting them in real close so they get target locked and forget the wingman.Ofcourse none of you would know that because it's not a vulch or a cherry pick.
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Originally posted by Shamus
Watch this 3v1...I shot all my ammo and missed, I didn't get the kill the good stick did.
I r uber!!!!
:rofl
shamus
yea the 3rd player was on the deck, whilst we were at 10-K plus.
Ya'll better pay attention to that 2nd film i posted or else you might get done like that.
I didn't get the kill the good stick did.
That was the whole point.I had 2 kills, helbent had 1.I was setting up his other kill.
Do any of you on here think about others or is just yerselves when your playin this game?
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Go back to the H2H arenas.
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I was up a few nights ago and the rooks kept flying bombers over one of our bases on the Baltic map. I decided to up a Ta152 and go do some hunting.
I was flying along toward Rookland at 20K when I noticed a dot at my 11 o'clock at 23-24K. I turned toward it and hit WEP in max climb.
As I leveled and came in range I noticed it was a 109K4. We engaged and after a few turns he broke off and started running for Rookland. I started to pursue but hadn't loaded a great deal of fuel and noticed I was running low so I turned for home. As soon as I did I saw the K4 closing on my six.
I turned back toward him and, after one turn he started to dive and run for home again. I pursued briefly then turned back for home again. Again he was soon closing on my six.
I turned back to him a third time. This time we made about two turns and as he broke to run for the third time I boke into a dive for home (about a sector and a half away), WEP on.
I typed on 200... "K4, make up your mind, either fight or run". No response.
Looking back again he was 5K back holding on my six. After a bit he was 5.5K then finally turned away unable to catch me.
I landed with 1 minute of fuel remaining.
The whole time this was happening all I could think of was that it was 1Hungloe I was (dueling?) with.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I was up a few nights ago and the rooks kept flying bombers over one of our bases on the Baltic map. I decided to up a Ta152 and go do some hunting.
I was flying along toward Rookland at 20K when I noticed a dot at my 11 o'clock at 23-24K. I turned toward it and hit WEP in max climb.
As I leveled and came in range I noticed it was a 109K4. We engaged and after a few turns he broke off and started running for Rookland. I started to pursue but hadn't loaded a great deal of fuel and noticed I was running low so I turned for home. As soon as I did I saw the K4 closing on my six.
I turned back toward him and, after one turn he started to dive and run for home again. I pursued briefly then turned back for home again. Again he was soon closing on my six.
I turned back to him a third time. This time we made about two turns and as he broke to run for the third time I boke into a dive for home (about a sector and a half away), WEP on.
I typed on 200... "K4, make up your mind, either fight or run". No response.
Looking back again he was 5K back holding on my six. After a bit he was 5.5K then finally turned away unable to catch me.
I landed with 1 minute of fuel remaining.
The whole time this was happening all I could think of was that it was 1Hungloe I was (dueling?) with.
I havn't been on the last 3 days at all, been workin alot of overtime(for a new telescope) so it wasn't me.
1.I always fly with a wingman, Warloc once told me that a person who fly's alone , Dies alone.
2.I don't runaway(extend) , i sucker people onto my six to do what you saw in the film above.
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Originally posted by Sweet2th
i sucker people onto my six to do what you saw in the film above.
So a few Immelmans interspersed with a few Split Esse's then?
I.E. Nothing at all.
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Originally posted by quintv
Do you honestly believe 9 guys were on comms saying, "Guys weve got two cons here with us, lets get the hell out of here!" ?
Something tells me not so much.
Ahhh yeah...there's a couple (1) squad around that i remember did that. (Falc :D )
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKW2iyUs9sA
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Originally posted by TinmanX
So a few Immelmans interspersed with a few Split Esse's then?
I.E. Nothing at all.
Not exactly, it involves a little more than that but yer close.