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Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: GA on October 25, 2001, 12:06:00 PM
Hi guys!

I im curently running on win 98, but should i go over to Win2000 or Win-XP!!

* Who is the best OS when i usely play games!
* Is the 2000 and XP faster on net when sufring etc.!
* Can some one plz. tell my the genrel diffrent on thees OS!!

Thx ;)
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Pukindog on October 25, 2001, 03:11:00 PM
XP is supposedly a combo of 2000 and ME.  I used it briefly and it is a very stable OS but a number of drivers like Creative's Live value have yet to be updated to support it. I ended up refomatting and loading ME back on my comp. I recommend XP but would wait a couple months until the vendors have had a chance to update drivers.  It is always a good idea to wait on new OS's anyway in order to give the vendor time to iron out the glitches.  Windows 2000 is designed more for commercial use.  Creative said the new drivers would be out Mid-October but that has come and gone.
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: GA on October 25, 2001, 04:13:00 PM
Thx Pukindog  ;)
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Bart777 on October 25, 2001, 04:17:00 PM
If you are using 98 now and it is working for you, Don't mess with it.

"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"

If you do decide to move to the new OS I would choose XP Pro. The XP Home edition has some major security holes that you might not like. The Pro edition however is about $100 more.

Having a machine with each of these OS's on them My choice is XP Pro. It is FAR more stable than 98 and is the replacement for both the 9x and 2k series OS's.

Send your check to Bill Gates..  :rolleyes:
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Furious on October 25, 2001, 04:36:00 PM
WARNING:  Idiotic blathering to follow

Let me start by stating the WinME is a BIG POS.  This is the worst operating system I have ever had the displeasure to use.  

I personally really like the stability and robustness of Win2K.  I have only had one problem using Win2k in a game and that was solved by setting up the desktop and ingame screen resolutions the same.  Needless to say it is far superior to any other MS OS when running high end professional software packages.

As for WinXP, it is my recommendation never to upgrade to a new OS until at least the first service pack has been released and preferably the second.

I'd wait.

F.
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Helmet on October 25, 2001, 09:45:00 PM
I've been Running XP Corp. edition for a while now....No issues, I have a SB 5.1...No issues....Max days Running 32(it would have been longer but I forgot to pay me electric bill)
I upgraded from Win 98se, belive me, that is a big step for me, I have alittle LAN at home, Mostly Running Win 2k. But I play alot of games so I stayed on 98se.
I got a Friend into AH, he's running Win 2k, and was having Lock Up troubles with it. I upgrade his Box and lo and Behold...No problems what so ever with it. (Well except for his DVD Decoder card)
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: FOGOLD on October 26, 2001, 01:49:00 AM
I still use Win95 latest version. Its great and never crashes. You,ve got to keep it clean tho. No cover disks from mags etc and be prepared to clean out the reg after uninstalls.
Seriously, apart from lack of USB support it uses less PC resources and I can get mine up to 98% before gameplay.
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Wobble on October 26, 2001, 02:42:00 AM
Win2kpro is unbeatable for games.

all you have to remember is to download all the service packs before you install DX8 or any vid card drivers.. I would never use 98, I had used 98SE for over a year and it has NOTHING on 2kpro, 2kpro is 100x more stable, is just a compatable with games, Im yet to come across a game that wont work with 2kpro (games made within last 3 years that is)

If you have Cable or DSL you will get a 5-10% increase in your net speed,

win2kpro takes about 5x longer than 98 to boot up, but its so stable youll almost never need to reboot, also alot of changes and additions that require a restart on 98 can be done without one on 2kpro..

and the BIGGEST difference.. MEMORY!!

98se cannot properly handle over 256mb of ram.. yes it will work with that much but it wont use it to its full potental, also 98 has a problem with nor returning ram.. i.e. youll run a proggy and then when your done 98 will somehow not reallocate all the memory it was using... this causes BSOD (blue screen of death) and lockups and general poor performance warranting a reboot.. very oftin..

2k handles memory EXCELLENT, when you quit a prog 2k will return every drop of ram right away, and it will properly manage well over a gig of it..

trust me, once you try 2kpro for a week.. 98 will seem like a cruel joke and you will look strangley on people who choose to stil use it.


As for XP.. I dunno, never tried it.. I am staying away from it for now because lack of drivers and whatnot.. that and I cant fathom how anything could be better than 2kpro in any way.

[ 10-26-2001: Message edited by: Wobble ]
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: FOGOLD on October 26, 2001, 04:10:00 AM
Thats really interesting Wobbell. I find with Win 95 the same. You quit programmes and no matter how much memory recovery you do resources always drop below 85% eventually which demands a reboot before gameplay. I'm thinking of a new dedicated games system anyway, cos I've too much important work stuff on this PC to be playing games too! Also my work stuff would run on my old pII350 and ragepro card no probs.
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: FOGOLD on October 26, 2001, 04:11:00 AM
PS.  IE5 is the chief culprit for keeping memory.
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: sydney on October 26, 2001, 06:51:00 PM
I'd recommend win2k strngly. The best M$ OS ever... XP is for eXPerimental...
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Helmet on October 27, 2001, 10:03:00 PM
Since it's "Sale Release" Drivers are now avilable for XP on stuff that it didn't have drivers for already.

I'm running a
1.2 gig AMD (266)
512 MB (PC 150)
Elsa 920 Geforce 3
High Point Raid 0 DMA 5 (ATA 100) on the Mobo
Raid on (2) Quantum Fireball ATA 100 30 gig (60 total) Hard Drives
Promise Ultra DMA ATA 100 IDE card
Sound Blaster 5.1
Sony 10 X CDRW
Creative 52 CD-rom
NIC card...Bla Bla bla and all the rest..
Every thing detected fine and have yet to say "Damn why didn't they do this.."
And the only issue I had was when playing Counter Stike, the Voice over IP would distort my voice. Now that Creative Released the XP drivers (2 days after it's offical Relase date,) Everything is working fine.
So as far as experimental...Hmmm I would have to disagree.
Only 3 issues I have with the O.S. is:
1) The install time (Get a book)
2) The Shut Down time (But you don't need to do that offten, Matter of fact I've only had to do that for certain drivers and when I needed to set up another Hard Drive)
3) The way is looks by default (Alittle too fuity for my taste.) But that can easily be changed.
For all you 2K lovers, you can get SMCONFIG back too. No more digging threw the Reg,
and it supports multiple LAN connection (Alternitive DNS, Gateway....) That make my NoteBook happy.

[ 10-27-2001: Message edited by: LordHelmet ]
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: BenDover on October 27, 2001, 10:19:00 PM
u forgot the most important thing about leaving new software (or hardware for that matter),they become cheaper!!
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: Flossy on October 28, 2001, 05:21:00 AM
My husband, Bob (Zeb) was having problems with white flashes across his screen when playing AH.  In desparation, he loaded Windows 2000 and managed to eliminate that flashing, but took a frame-rate hit in the process.  He loaded XP a couple of days ago and last night spent the longest time in the game than he has for some time - the flashing was cured, and he had his frame-rate back up!

Our son, Deryk (Cloudy) is also running XP and made a rare appearance in the game yesterday, also without any problems.  I think I may be next in line for an upgrade to XP before too long...    :)

[ 10-28-2001: Message edited by: Flossy ]
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: blackfalcon4 on October 28, 2001, 09:20:00 AM
YOYO
Stats still show that win98se is still the best 3d gaming OS, but only by a slight margin over XP
What I would recommend is to dual boot ur machine so you can have both OS's
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: smash on October 28, 2001, 04:46:00 PM
I run dual boot 98SE and  Win2k.  Games are on 2k for now, but my Thrustmaster FLCS will only load files in Win98.  I may move games over to 98, just for ease of use.

As far as stability, sure I like 2k, but it's still Microsoft.   :D
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: vatiAH on October 28, 2001, 05:06:00 PM
Dual booting Win 98 SE and WinXP.  Only reason 98 SE is on the system at all is because CH speedkeys does not work in WinXP.  WinXP no frame rate hits in WinXP at all and the stability is a wonderfull thing!!  


Vati
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: DanielMcIntyre on October 28, 2001, 05:20:00 PM
Windows 98 best for AH imo.  I have frequent blue screen in Win2k running 1.08, memory, device and other errors corrupting memory.  I'd also steer away from 2K if you have MS Sidewinder FFB or similiar joystick as these are not supported by this operating system and although there are drivers built into W2K for these sticks, they are very rudimentary and not configurable to any extent.

WinMe and XP are great if you can get them to run, but like most of the MS OS's since Win98, more emphasis seems to have been placed on the OOP concept without regard for the performance or reliability issues which are bound to pop up when your code contains thousands of extra objects which do absolutely nothing but take up system resources.

But then again, I'd be happy to go back to MS-DOS 6.2 and use 100% of my PC resources.

In regards to memory leaks in Win98, as far as I know, each instance of a program calls windows to allocate and deallocate its memory blocks, leaking memory is probably being caused by the programs making these requests and not by Windows itself.
Title: Win 98!!, Win200!! or Win XP!!
Post by: bigUC on October 28, 2001, 06:34:00 PM
win2k for at least a year - rock stable and no framrate issues.  bought and ditched quite a bit of second rate hardware, installed crappy software written by drunk monkeys, never had a problem... Had probs with devices, never the os!