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Title: Test arena recon photo
Post by: Pyro on March 21, 2007, 12:02:12 PM: (http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/recon.jpg)
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 12:04:40 PM: Shermie!
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 12:04:46 PM: cool pic, do i spy a Sherman?
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Post by: Bronk on March 21, 2007, 12:04:55 PM: Sherman???????????????????????

:noid

Bronk
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Post by: BBBB on March 21, 2007, 12:05:29 PM: Awsome..now the trees arnt only 100 feet tall..they are also 100 feet wide...I am digging the fog or mist effect..or is that smoke?. And I am not even going to comment on the Sherman. lol. Nice pic.
-BB
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 12:06:57 PM: I'm all giddy, new stuff, new stuff
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Post by: BBBB on March 21, 2007, 12:13:40 PM: I dont think that is just a basic M4...it looks like it might be a Sherman II A M4A2E8 (with 76mm gun). Vury nice.

-BB.
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Post by: moot on March 21, 2007, 12:21:39 PM: Someone call Arlo.

Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
Awsome..now the trees arnt only 100 feet tall..they are also 100 feet wide...
-BB

They're Sherman trees.
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 12:27:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
I dont think that is just a basic M4...it looks like it might be a Sherman II A M4A2E8 (with 76mm gun). Vury nice.
-BB.

or it may be a FireFly
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Post by: SkyRock on March 21, 2007, 12:30:08 PM: I like the trees, and the fog and the whole scene looks very nice. I like the plane and it's got a big gun, but how does it fly without wings?? :confused:

:t

:noid

Mark
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Post by: DREDIOCK on March 21, 2007, 12:30:38 PM: Now why when looking at this does the scene from "Cool Hand Luke" when the chain gang is working the road and the hot chick is washing the car come to mind?

LMAO
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Post by: Denholm on March 21, 2007, 12:32:33 PM: Wow, I can't wait for GV wars now!
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Post by: MotorOil1 on March 21, 2007, 12:34:37 PM: Let me guess. 2 weeks right?
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Post by: kamilyun on March 21, 2007, 01:19:21 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Denholm
Wow, I can't wait for GV wars now!

I can't wait to carpet bomb GV wars now! :D
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Post by: rodak on March 21, 2007, 01:27:39 PM: Looks good guys :aok
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Post by: Husky01 on March 21, 2007, 01:28:41 PM: TWO WEEKS!
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Post by: 38ruk on March 21, 2007, 01:38:23 PM: WOW , looks Excellent !!!!! Keep up the great work HTC!
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Post by: Coronado on March 21, 2007, 01:40:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Now why when looking at this does the scene from "Cool Hand Luke" when the chain gang is working the road and the hot chick is washing the car come to mind?

LMAO

cuz most of us have traded in pooty poo for props :aok
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Post by: Denholm on March 21, 2007, 01:41:29 PM: Quote
Originally posted by MotorOil1
Let me guess. 2 weeks right?

No, this time they're trying out the 3 week lingo.
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 02:03:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by MotorOil1
Let me guess. 2 weeks right?

possible. I just looked back at when the Jeep was released. First rumors of the Jeep coming started 3-6-06 or 3-7-06. 12 - 13 days later the Patch with the Jeep was released 3-20-06. so yes 2 weeks :D
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 02:46:50 PM: Nobody's commented on the lighting and shadows and contrast of the image yet.

Am I the only one that notices these things? :P They're in the shadow so they're all black, but the sherman, despite being in a smoke cloud/fog bank, is pretty clear and decently lit. Interesting effect.
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Post by: hubsonfire on March 21, 2007, 02:56:50 PM: I can not wait to blow some of them up. Trees look pretty, I just hope this isn't going to need a new PC to run at decent detail. On the other hand, I've been looking for an excuse to mug someone anyway.
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 03:04:36 PM: I think when they showed the last screenshots of the trees and hedgerows that they said it doesn't hit the FPS any more than what we already have does.
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Post by: Panzzer on March 21, 2007, 04:18:43 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Airscrew
or it may be a FireFly
Yep, Sherman VC Firefly, see the HTC home page for more pics.

Thanks for the update, Pyro!
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Post by: straffo on March 21, 2007, 04:20:48 PM: Tin can ?
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Post by: fungi987 on March 21, 2007, 04:28:33 PM: I see new targets:t

Fungi
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 04:29:56 PM: OMG look at the Windmills!! and all those trees, something good this way comes...
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Post by: Roscoroo on March 21, 2007, 04:35:12 PM: (http://www1.hitechcreations.com/images/firefly/ff2.jpg)

Hmmmmm ... windmills ,Shermies.... way cool
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Post by: parin on March 21, 2007, 04:35:47 PM: PERK IT!
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Post by: TinmanX on March 21, 2007, 04:37:46 PM: Quote
Originally posted by straffo
Tin can ?

Tin can what?
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Post by: hubsonfire on March 21, 2007, 04:43:17 PM: Aha, was looking at the home page earlier, hadn't been updated yet.

That's some nice looking work.
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Post by: Speed55 on March 21, 2007, 04:44:50 PM: Oh Hell Yeah!!

Looking good HTC. :aok
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Post by: Puck on March 21, 2007, 04:50:00 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
Nobody's commented on the lighting and shadows and contrast of the image yet.

Am I the only one that notices these things? :P They're in the shadow so they're all black, but the sherman, despite being in a smoke cloud/fog bank, is pretty clear and decently lit. Interesting effect.

I noticed, and the first question was "smoke" or "ground fog". Ground fog would fundamentally change the way air-to-ground works; no longer are we in perpetual summer with unlimited visibility. GVs can hide, ground attack aircraft will no longer be able to pull up 10' off the deck...

I also noticed the trestle bridge, the windmill, and the P39 off in the distance. Could be a GREAT update.
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 04:54:07 PM: you're a bad man Puck, evil :t
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 04:55:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Puck
I also noticed the trestle bridge, the windmill, and the P39 off in the distance.

I don't see any aircraft.

Also, we could have trestle bridges now. I'm sure I've seen them in at least one terrain. It depends on the map maker though, and their use of custom objects.
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Post by: Slash27 on March 21, 2007, 05:05:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Roscoroo
(http://www1.hitechcreations.com/images/firefly/ff2.jpg)

Nice work HTC:aok

Has anyone told Arlo about this?:D
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Post by: jedi25 on March 21, 2007, 05:10:32 PM: Can I kill a tiger tank with this model sherman.?
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 05:11:31 PM: From 1000 yards it should be able to kill a tiger through the frontal armor, if I recall reading another thread (there's one in the aircraft and vehicles forum)
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Post by: quintv on March 21, 2007, 05:24:51 PM: Nice.
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Post by: Wes14 on March 21, 2007, 05:27:39 PM: Sweet:O
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Post by: Airscrew on March 21, 2007, 05:29:30 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Krusty
I don't see any aircraft.

Also, we could have trestle bridges now. I'm sure I've seen them in at least one terrain. It depends on the map maker though, and their use of custom objects.

Krusty, How could you miss that P-39?

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/874_1174516146_ff3p39.jpg)
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 05:31:55 PM: :rofl :lol
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Post by: daddog on March 21, 2007, 05:39:25 PM: Thanks Pyro! :)
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Post by: Squire on March 21, 2007, 05:46:46 PM: Ah, but is there going to be APDS (Armor Peircing Discarding Sabot) ammo to go with the 17 Pdr?

Would be nice to have a few rnds, maybe for say 10 perkies you get 10 rnds or something, with the rest regular AP and HE ammo, and smoke of course.
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Post by: moot on March 21, 2007, 06:14:09 PM: Krusty, I don't think that's a lighting change. It looks like something common in video games, where a white translucent sprite will highlight rather than mask what's behind it.
It happens in AH too, when you look through the gunsight glass at night.
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Post by: Wmaker on March 21, 2007, 07:34:17 PM: Thanks for the update Pyro!

I hope there's gonna be at least one new airframe in the new version. It has been about 2,5 years since new planes were introduced the last time.

At this point any new kite will do! :)

Updating the old 3D-models can take the wait for one new aircraft!
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Post by: Meatwad on March 21, 2007, 08:54:38 PM: OMGOMGOMGOMG

Tankgasm :)
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Post by: DREDIOCK on March 21, 2007, 09:38:53 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Denholm
No, this time they're trying out the 3 week lingo.

Inflation ;)
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Post by: Pyro on March 21, 2007, 09:47:31 PM: I wish I had better news for you on that Wmaker but I'm afraid we don't have a new kite for this release. Unfortunately, the terrain work has just taken a lot longer than we anticipated and even then, we were only looking at another updated airframe to fit the schedule.

The good news is that we do agree with you that a new airframe is overdue and we were discussing that at our meeting this morning. After this release that will be Waffle's next task while the rest of us put our collective efforts towards CT. We decided that we'd let the subscribers pick the next plane so I've been thinking of some various ways to have a run-off poll on what that should be. I'll be making a post on that in the near future. Now would be a good time to get your Brewster lobby mobilized.:)
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Post by: ROC on March 21, 2007, 09:52:29 PM: That should be easy enough to pull off.

Forum Post with Plane Request, followed by a poll with the top 10 Most Requested.

Best part of a forum based poll, each forum member can only vote once :)
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Post by: Pyro on March 21, 2007, 10:18:13 PM: It won't be a forum vote, it'll be online in-game. It'll be some sort of a run-off so that it doesn't come down to some small plurality. I just haven't thought about that enough.
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Post by: sgt203 on March 21, 2007, 10:21:33 PM: VERY SWEET!!!!!!

Ok whos gonna be the first to calls themselves

"the shermanator"?????
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Post by: LYNX on March 21, 2007, 10:54:14 PM: Love the detail even on the "Tommy Cooker"
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Post by: Krusty on March 21, 2007, 11:29:07 PM: Very interesting info, Pyro! Thanks for letting us in on the process.

Quick question, though: Are you going to give priority to certain groups of planes? For example, update all the old "Generation 1" models that still have 256 default textures? Or perhaps give priority to those that might be in the next tour, (example: you expand first CT to include RAF, so you'd want mossies, typhies, whatever)?

Or will it be totally random?
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Post by: ROC on March 21, 2007, 11:48:35 PM: Pyro, I missed that completely, there are Far more players online and In Game than frequent these boards.

I gracefully stand corrected.
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Post by: croduh on March 22, 2007, 04:14:47 AM: All i can say is

WOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post by: Dichotomy on March 22, 2007, 05:35:27 AM: Quote
Originally posted by duh
All i can say is

WOOOOWOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'll bet you're a lot of fun at parties ;)

me 'hi this is my friend duh'
person 1 'hi duh nice to meet you'
duh 'woowooooooo'
person 1 *odd look* I'm sorry?
me 'that's all he can say'
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Post by: Wmaker on March 22, 2007, 06:17:04 AM: Thanks for the info Pyro!

Ahh...well, no aircraft on the next release but it's great to hear that the drought is finally coming to an end! And personally I agree with updating the terrain, been waiting for the updated textures.

The Brewster lobby WILL be ready! ;)
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 07:27:53 AM: Pyro, thanks for the info, I'll try to create a lobby for italian planes! :D Lost cause, I know, but I have to try! ;)

A question for you: what will the hardware requirements be for the new version? Will it require a more powerful system, compared with 2.09?
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Post by: DREDIOCK on March 22, 2007, 07:28:17 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Pyro
It won't be a forum vote, it'll be online in-game. It'll be some sort of a run-off so that it doesn't come down to some small plurality. I just haven't thought about that enough.

BTW the creenshots look great!

One small request on the new rides though.
When its put to a vote.
Can we limit the choices to rides not currently in the game rather then another varients of already existing rides?
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 07:30:42 AM: Quote
Can we limit the choices to rides not currently in the game rather then another varients of already existing rides?

I think that's what Pyro meant, drediock, when he said "a new airframe". In any case, I second your request.
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Post by: Keiler on March 22, 2007, 08:01:12 AM: Hmmm am I missing something?

Where are the new screenies to be found at? Me stupid...

thanks!
Matt
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Post by: Lusche on March 22, 2007, 08:02:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Keiler
Hmmm am I missing something?

Where are the new screenies to be found at? Me stupid...

thanks!
Matt

just on the homepage : "March 21 development update"
http://www.hitechcreations.com
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Post by: Keiler on March 22, 2007, 08:08:43 AM: AHHHH......

stupid. My browser didnt refresh properly.

Thanks!

Matt
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Post by: Max on March 22, 2007, 08:11:32 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dichotomy
I'll bet you're a lot of fun at parties ;)

me 'hi this is my friend duh'
person 1 'hi duh nice to meet you'
duh 'woowooooooo'
person 1 *odd look* I'm sorry?
me 'that's all he can say'

Hehe...good un! :aok
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Post by: SirLoin on March 22, 2007, 08:43:28 AM: Tommy-Cooker!! Yummmmy!
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Post by: Krusty on March 22, 2007, 11:28:03 AM: Hrm.. I mis-read Pyro's post. I thought he was talking about letting the people pick the next "old model" to be revamped. He's talking about new models! heh, whoops! My bad.

It would be cool if we could vote on the old ones too :t

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Originally posted by Gianlupo
Pyro, thanks for the info, I'll try to create a lobby for italian planes! :D Lost cause, I know, but I have to try! ;)

Count me in, Gianlupo! I know we all want the G.55, but the C.200 would really be useful in MTO, N. Africa, and even the BOB scenarios.

And, if folks are getting sick of Macchis (HAH! Can that even happen?? :huh ) we can do the G.50 instead. They were contemporaries, with about comparable performance and armament.

I'm sorry Gian, I just can't bring myself to vote for a S.79 :lol
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 11:35:52 AM: LOL Krusty, I knew I could count you! :lol

Don't worry, I know that S.79 or Cant. Z.1007 are only a dream... and I'm afraid early war italian planes won't get much attention.... so.....

start repeating after me:

G.55... G.55... G.55... [size=9]G.55...[/size]

[size=12]G.55!!!![/size]
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Post by: Husky01 on March 22, 2007, 11:38:32 AM: I was thinking mabey the In game vote could go something like this. The voting system would come up on the screen like the normal Arena Message on your clip board.

*Screen Comes Up*

Would you like to vote for a new aircraft

Yes or No

If no is selected screen goes away.

If yes is selected the next page would come up saying,

*Pick a nation of what plane you would like to be added*

USA
Germany
Italy
And so on...

For which ever country you selected a screen will be opened that says.

*Please choose an aircraft from the ******* nation you have selected.*

For instence lets say you choose America. A list pulls up like so.

P-39
P-61
B-25
B-29
and so on.

Then once you have clicked on your vote hit ok and submit.
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Post by: Krusty on March 22, 2007, 11:57:25 AM: Husky, chances are it'll be a simple option with just 8 or 10 or "however many" radio buttons and the most common requests.

Gianlupo: G55! G55! G55!!!!!

er....

unless the Me410 is on the list... then I'm going to have to sneak around back and vote for it... :O
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 11:57:41 AM: It seems a good way, Husky, but, to assure that the poll will give every plane the same chances, it would be nice to list them all together, without the nation thing, giving a short description of their role and capability... otherwise, people will vote only basing on the "I heard of it", clearly hampering the less famous planes... I think mostly of the people who flies the game but doesn't know much about the WWII aviation... I bet there are a good share of players in that category.

EDIT: Krusty, you traitor!!!! :mad: Me410 can be added later!!! :furious :D
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Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on March 22, 2007, 11:59:14 AM: P-39 & B-25

25 because its a early war bomber "or could be"
Was used by alot of countrys.
The 25 would also give the rissuans a bomber,that they realy need badly.

p-36 because of the same things.
only they would fit perfectly for the nations that have lass planes right now.
Russians americans british could all be supported by one airframe.

thats like three birds with one stone.

cant beat that.
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Post by: Ball on March 22, 2007, 12:00:37 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Pyro
I wish I had better news for you on that Wmaker but I'm afraid we don't have a new kite for this release. Unfortunately, the terrain work has just taken a lot longer than we anticipated and even then, we were only looking at another updated airframe to fit the schedule.

The good news is that we do agree with you that a new airframe is overdue and we were discussing that at our meeting this morning. After this release that will be Waffle's next task while the rest of us put our collective efforts towards CT. We decided that we'd let the subscribers pick the next plane so I've been thinking of some various ways to have a run-off poll on what that should be. I'll be making a post on that in the near future. Now would be a good time to get your Brewster lobby mobilized.:)

Wow.. great idea.

Thanks Pyro.
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Post by: Krusty on March 22, 2007, 12:03:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Gianlupo
EDIT: Krusty, you traitor!!!! :mad: Me410 can be added later!!! :furious :D

Hey, don't you Holly me! I've been hoping and wishing for the Me410 since before I even considered the G.55!

We can still be friends if only the G.55 is on the list, but if that 410 shows up?

Then you can Holly me all you want, as I'm cruising around in my 410. :t :t :O :aok
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 12:04:00 PM: MadFarma, this --> (http://digilander.libero.it/le.faccine/faccinea/bandiere/italy_2.gif) is the nation who has less planes, right now!!! Immediately followed by Russia and Japan.

G.55... G.55... G.55... G.55...!!!!

EDIT: Krusty, stop posting while I'm doing it!!!! And you'll get more than Hollied... you'll get (http://digilander.libero.it/le.faccine/faccinea/arrabbiato/00035023.gif)
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Post by: Puck on March 22, 2007, 12:06:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
P-39 & B-25

25 because its a early war bomber "or could be"
Was used by alot of countrys.
The 25 would also give the rissuans a bomber,that they realy need badly.

p-36 because of the same things.
only they would fit perfectly for the nations that have lass planes right now.
Russians americans british could all be supported by one airframe.

thats like three birds with one stone.

cant beat that.

Russians also had the A-20; we just need to give it the right skin.

P36 would be my vote for new airframe. Too ubiquitous to ignore.

The list of things we "need" is too long to get into, so I'll stick with the things that can be used the most in terms of events and in the arenas if people are so inclined. Not everyone flies La-7s, H1K2s, and Spit XVIs.

Countries with the least aircraft: Romania, France...
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Post by: Wmaker on March 22, 2007, 12:17:15 PM: (http://heninen.net/brewster/brewster.gif)

Now who could say no to this cute little thing! :)
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Post by: Bronk on March 22, 2007, 12:19:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Wmaker
(http://heninen.net/brewster/brewster.gif)

Now who could say no to this cute little thing! :)

EASY

(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Holloman2005/Highlights/P39.jpg)

:D

Bronk
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Post by: Krusty on March 22, 2007, 12:20:53 PM: To answer your question: I could. "No!"
:lol
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 12:39:38 PM: (http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/fiat/fiat_g55-archivio_ami01.jpg)

3 20mm guns, 2 12.7 MGs, 620 km/h at 7.100 m, suited for high altitude combat (remember, CT is coming!), more maneuverable than C. 205 (the N version), evaluated by Luftwaffe as superior to 190 and 109 at high altitude (above 6.000 m)...

What do you want more??? :D
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Post by: Krusty on March 22, 2007, 12:40:39 PM: Gianlupo: Check this link out:

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201489
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 12:43:24 PM: ROFLOL!!! Great Krusty, thanks!!! :)

But, I saw last Pyro's thread.... don't even think of saying Me 410!!!!! :D ;)

EDIT: Sorry, Wmaker, you know I like very much you Finn guys... but I want another italian plane!!! ;) And think about it, AH would be the only game to have it, IL2 and Target Tobruk forgot the 55.... :)
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Post by: Wmaker on March 22, 2007, 12:43:24 PM: Gianlupo,

Don't make me come after your Ki with Me-163 again! :furious :p
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Post by: Blagard on March 22, 2007, 03:21:54 PM: Interesting "picture" in black and white. So as a photo it looks more authentic.

Next question, is there a recon facility in that arena? I mean a way in which you can have someone go out on foot to sneak a view or maybe use some binoculars. As an addition to the "young" trees we currently have those "mature" ones with a large trunk a welcome change. Interesting to see what is being "toyed with" at the moment!
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Post by: straffo on March 22, 2007, 03:48:46 PM: You have my voice except if it's against a Yak3

Quote
Originally posted by Wmaker
(http://heninen.net/brewster/brewster.gif)

Now who could say no to this cute little thing! :)
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Post by: Gianlupo on March 22, 2007, 03:56:33 PM: :lol Normandie-Niemen geek!!!

Btw, Yak-3 is in Pyro's list (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201490) ;)
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Post by: macleod01 on March 23, 2007, 03:02:00 PM: ok, im not gonna lobby for new planes (Already got a thread for that). Pyro, how long can we roughly expect to wait for the sherman? No two weeks / new Three Weeks jokes. (that includes 14 days and however many seconds it is or minutes or hours etc). And can we expect the skin pack to be included in the update?
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Post by: Capt.Joe on March 24, 2007, 11:02:15 PM: Holy, I'm gonna need a new computer, Batman! :cry

Looks good, but the trees are a little concerning :eek:
Title: hmm...
Post by: Eurisko on March 24, 2007, 11:59:10 PM: Clearly it's the ill-tempered rare Green-Breasted Sherm Sherm!