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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Eagler on March 22, 2007, 01:11:21 PM
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what have the dumbacrats done since gaining the majority?
their actions looks like nothing more than a 2008 setup to me.
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well for one thing they have made a lot of speeches.
and General Plosie said she will do "everything in her power to bring the troops home"
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The aquaducts?
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They have produced alot of Smug.
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I know, you guys really don't want the facts, but here you go anyway...
http://www.dccc.org/100hours/
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i think non of them passed the senate, so non are law, sounds more like spinning wheels.
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Riiiight! Quoting from the Dems homepage.
Of all the things they say they did in the first 100 hours how many of them got pass Bush AND of those that got passed how many were worth a damn?
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By drawing back of the curtian of secrecy and shady dealings of this administration the Dems have done more to serve want's of the majority of Americans than the Reps have in the past six years.
So, for us that saw the need for this well overdue oversight, Mission Accomplished.
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Originally posted by Flatbar
By drawing back of the curtian of secrecy and shady dealings of this administration the Dems have done more to serve want's of the majority of Americans than the Reps have in the past six years....
wow - thank goodness! LOL LOL LOL
j more witch hunting trying to set up 08 for them, nothing productive for America at all but besides supporting their usually unproductive and useless base with useless rhetoric
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Originally posted by Flatbar
By drawing back of the curtian of secrecy and shady dealings of this administration the Dems have done more to serve want's of the majority of Americans than the Reps have in the past six years.
So, for us that saw the need for this well overdue oversight, Mission Accomplished.
What shady dealings, exactly?
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We will energize America by achieving energy independence, and we will begin by rolling back the multi-billion dollar subsidies for Big Oil.
H.R. 6, "Creating Long-Term Energy Alternatives for the Nation Act." passed 264-163, Jan. 18th, 2007
I'll believe that, when my daughter comes home with her new 2025 Chevy matter antimatter plasma ionic battery back car, that never needs sunlight or refueling and doesn't explode when the key is turned.
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Originally posted by Flatbar
By drawing back of the curtian of secrecy and shady dealings of this administration the Dems have done more to serve want's of the majority of Americans than the Reps have in the past six years.
So, for us that saw the need for this well overdue oversight, Mission Accomplished.
Originally posted by SteveBailey
What shady dealings, exactly?
"A fisherman casts his line in the water, a fish swims by, nibbles bait, but alas, the fisherman has fallen asleep."
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Originally posted by Flatbar
By drawing back of the curtian of secrecy and shady dealings of this administration the Dems have done more to serve want's of the majority of Americans than the Reps have in the past six years.
So, for us that saw the need for this well overdue oversight, Mission Accomplished.
So, we're talking about the overdue oversight on Harry Ried and his real estate deals, or better yet, maybe overdue oversight on Pelosi's exemption of a company (Starkist Tuna) her family has millions invested in from her minimum wage law?
You should try selling that rotten tripe to people who have no sense of smell.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I know, you guys really don't want the facts, but here you go anyway...
http://www.dccc.org/100hours/
Facts? Facts? Facts are meaningless -- you can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I know, you guys really don't want the facts, but here you go anyway...
http://www.dccc.org/100hours/
I like this one...
We will make our economy fairer, and start by raising the minimum wage. We will not pass a pay raise for Congress until there is an increase in the minimum wage.
H.R. 2, "Fair Minimum Wage Act of 2007." passed 315-116, Jan. 10th, 2007
What it really means is: "As soon as we raise the minimum wage, we'll raise our own salaries as well."
Priorities indeed :rofl
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"Fair" minimum wage...
what the heck is that?
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Originally posted by mietla
"Fair" minimum wage...
what the heck is that?
Misspelled? "Bare" minimum.
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Originally posted by mietla
"Fair" minimum wage...
what the heck is that?
Let me define fair minimum wage for you.
They make $150,000 a year
You pay $150,000 a year
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Originally posted by Eagler
wow - thank goodness! LOL LOL LOL
j more witch hunting trying to set up 08 for them, nothing productive for America at all but besides supporting their usually unproductive and useless base with useless rhetoric
Republicans do the same things, that's part of the game the two useless DC crime families play... they snipe each other at every opportunity while turning a blind eye to their party buddies misgivings.
What else do you expect anyway?, neither party has any worry of being kicked out of the .gov and has no urgent motivation to "do a good job".
As the last 6 years have proven, as Slick Willy did before that, your party can F up big time, do nothing in congress, let existing Federal problems fester, support presidents who obviously lie & deny, and drag the United States of Americas alleged moral authority thru the mud.... and that party will still share power.
No worries, no biggie, and no changes.... being the minority party is just part of the game they accept, they still have plenty of power and influence, plus there's always another set of elections coming up to bullfeces their way back into the majority. Being an elected politician is just another job within the Rep / Dem party machine, being voted out is no big deal.. there are plenty of ways to pimp the party line, lots of cronies to work for, lots of easy high paying work for a good party hack to keep the party strong.... so even voting them out of office accomplishes little the DC crime family machines rolls on.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I know, you guys really don't want the facts, but here you go anyway...
http://www.dccc.org/100hours/
why do I have the sneaking suspician most of these in reality dont really do what they are advertising they do.
No offence but I tend to not trust anything thats spun from a website run by either party.
And odds are thats all that is. Is spin
An independant source would be much more credible
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They should make it a law for congress members to visit the AH OClub to get ideas from the masterminds that partake within.
With the help from some of you mental midgets this country would be rollin along in no time.
Some things that never change just never cease to amaze me.
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Originally posted by Swager
They should make it a law for congress members to visit the AH OClub to get ideas from the masterminds that partake within.
With the help from some of you mental midgets this country would be rollin along in no time.
Some things that never change just never cease to amaze me.
Oh yea like the armchair generals here could do a better job.
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
Republicans do the same things, that's part of the game the two useless DC crime families play... they snipe each other at every opportunity while turning a blind eye to their party buddies misgivings.
What else do you expect anyway?, neither party has any worry of being kicked out of the .gov and has no urgent motivation to "do a good job".
As the last 6 years have proven, as Slick Willy did before that, your party can F up big time, do nothing in congress, let existing Federal problems fester, support presidents who obviously lie & deny, and drag the United States of Americas alleged moral authority thru the mud.... and that party will still share power.
No worries, no biggie, and no changes.... being the minority party is just part of the game they accept, they still have plenty of power and influence, plus there's always another set of elections coming up to bullfeces their way back into the majority. Being an elected politician is just another job within the Rep / Dem party machine, being voted out is no big deal.. there are plenty of ways to pimp the party line, lots of cronies to work for, lots of easy high paying work for a good party hack to keep the party strong.... so even voting them out of office accomplishes little the DC crime family machines rolls on.
both have problems but imo the dems are out to ruin this country with their crazy radical leftwing agenda, which has turned into nothing but obstruction, witch hunts and conspiracy rhetoric .. wouldn't put it past nancy and the gang to blame 9/11 on this admin b4 its all over with.
I’ll take a Republican “dc crime family” over the Hollywood hot air goron fanclub family anyday.
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Whoever spends less $$$ screwing this country over has my vote...
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Originally posted by Swager
They should make it a law for congress members to visit the AH OClub to get ideas from the masterminds that partake within.
With the help from some of you mental midgets this country would be rollin along in no time.
Some things that never change just never cease to amaze me.
Know what the problem with Politics is?
It's filled with politicians.
I say we should have every single politician shot, and then start with a clean slate.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Know what the problem with Politics is?
It's filled with politicians.
I say we should have every single politician shot, and then start with a clean slate.
Deal. :)
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term limits
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lolol
Yo MT..how bout you explain what they have doen on this one?
We can go step by step..thsi is the first Hour they claim!!
We will start by cleaning up Congress, ending the link between lobbyists and legislation.
H.Res. 6, Title II, "Adopting the Rules of the House of Representatives for the One Hundred Tenth Congress." passed 430-1, Jan. 4th, 2007
Love to see you splain this one...
BUHAHWHAHAHWHAA
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Dem vs Repub = Giant sweetheart vs **** sandwich
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I happen to know the Democrats are directly responsible for Sanjaya Malakar...
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We have the neocon liberal wing of the republican party in the White House today and similar but different liberal (RINO) republicans on the run to 08. We have the more liberal wing of the democrats pushing the agenda in Congress and on the run for 08.
I'm waiting for a solid moderate with libertarian leanings from either party or a new party. Chirp.... Chirp...
Paul looks interesting, but I'm not sold on exactly what his end game is for the country just yet.
Charon
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Know what the problem with Politics is?
It's filled with politicians.
I say we should have every single politician shot, and then start with a clean slate.
And no rich people in Congress or the White house anymore.
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Originally posted by john9001
term limits
Congress voted in term limits for the Presidency. If term limits are good enough for the Presidency they are good enough for Congress.
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Originally posted by Elfie
Congress voted in term limits for the Presidency. If term limits are good enough for the Presidency they are good enough for Congress.
Yes, but how do we get the law into place?
Have you ever seen a poor politician? These people make a lot of money doing what they do. They will not voluntarily give it up.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Have you ever seen a poor politician?
Only one that comes to mind is Thomas Jefferson. He did not start out that way, but he died virtually penniless. Probably the last one too.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Yes, but how do we get the law into place?
Have you ever seen a poor politician? These people make a lot of money doing what they do. They will not voluntarily give it up.
Aren't there ways to get signatures on a petition to get things like this on a ballot that politicians would never vote for or bring up themselves?
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Not federally, but many states have initiatives that should enough be enacted state by state, the feds could be shamed. (fat chance)
The only other way is by constitutional convention.
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Originally posted by Elfie
Congress voted in term limits for the Presidency. If term limits are good enough for the Presidency they are good enough for Congress.
I'm pretty sure that was an amendment to the Constitution... so Congress didn't decide on their own.
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But, But, BUT think of the Spotted Owls and them Snail Darter thingys...
Where's the Humanity?
"I seen a Huge Manatee in my pajamas once.... how it got there I haven't a clue."
:D
Mac
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Originally posted by Sandman
I'm pretty sure that was an amendment to the Constitution... so Congress didn't decide on their own.
You are correct, it's the 22nd amendment to the constitution. Google was my friend. :D
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Not federally, but many states have initiatives that should enough be enacted state by state, the feds could be shamed. (fat chance)
The only other way is by constitutional convention.
I'm game if you are Holden. I mean that in all seriousness.
I'm going to finish my dinner, then I'm going to research how to call one.
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I'm for an amendment that would require Senators and Representatives to remain in their home states and districts and telecommute their congressional duties.
This would allow me to get in my car and drive an hour or two and pound my fist on my senators desk, while some lobbyist would have to travel to 535 different cities to get his job done, rather than his present one stop shopping system.
>edit (It would also be good strategically, as somebody with a dirty bomb would not be able to take out the government)
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This would allow me to get in my car and drive an hour or two and pound my fist on my senators desk, while some lobbyist would have to travel to 535 different cities to get his job done, rather than his present one stop shopping system.
Now that is slick.
Charon
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Holden, I do have to say that that is one of your best ideas, and you've had many.
So, Term Limits, the abolition of a centralized congressional meeting location...
Anything else we want to bring up at our Constitutional Convention.
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It is pathetically sad that most of you guys oppose congressional oversight of the executive branch.
It is even more pathetic that each party in the government is so fundamentally incapable of conducting such oversight if the executive is held by the same party as the majority in congress.
And make no mistake, the GOP in the last 6 years was the worst offender in that regard since before Theodore Roosevelt cleaned things up some.
As to the witch hunt accusation, don't make me laugh. After what Clinton was put through and the fact that Pelosi explicitly shut down the pro-impeachment people...
Just imagine the outrage of the whacko-rightwing-talk radio circuit if Clinton's administration had outed an undercover CIA agent. Good gods.
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Read the transcripts, Plame was not covert, hadn't been covert in years, and even fumbled trying to claim she was covert, in front of a friendly Congress, just recently. Plame was outed by a spy during the CLINTON administration, and was called home because the KGB and any number of other agencies knew exactly who she was. Richard Armitage is the one who brought Plame's name up to begin with, and the "special prosecutor" and the Democrats knew for YEARS who gave out Plame's name, and he has NEVER been charged with ANYTHING, mostly because he's from the STATE department and he's a member of the anti Bush group himself.
By the way, it was either one of the Walkers, or Ames, who actually compromised Plame and hundreds of others, some of whom were killed.
The current witch hunt is just that, obviously. The Clintons fired over 90 U.S. attorneys, and no one said a word. Gonzales fired 8.
Oversight? You call ANY of it oversight? Get real. The legislative branch can't handle oversight of their own members, neither freaking party. How can you expect them to handle oversight of another branch? And who has effective oversight over them?
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Originally posted by Eagler
what have the dumbacrats done since gaining the majority?
their actions looks like nothing more than a 2008 setup to me.
Boy, I'm glad their loyal opposition always demonstrates what principled moral high ground in politics looks like so we can find it more easily.
I said in another thread, "paybacks" are tough cookies. And it goes back at least as far as Jim Wright and John Tower.
So start Googling.
Click, Click,
hap
p.s. There are much more important things than who sits in the White House. Changing rancor into principled debate is one of them.
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Originally posted by Eagler
what have the dumbacrats done since gaining the majority?
their actions looks like nothing more than a 2008 setup to me.
So you feel the war in Iraq is going good then?? MMkay:lol
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By the way, guys, if the casualty rate in Iraq over the last four years continues, our forces will have to be deployed over there for only 50 years to equal the number of casualties suffered in Vietnam.
In light of that fact, I must say it is grossly unfair to state that the democrats have demagogued the war issue.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I'm for an amendment that would require Senators and Representatives to remain in their home states and districts and telecommute their congressional duties.
This would allow me to get in my car and drive an hour or two and pound my fist on my senators desk, while some lobbyist would have to travel to 535 different cities to get his job done, rather than his present one stop shopping system.
>edit (It would also be good strategically, as somebody with a dirty bomb would not be able to take out the government)
This is a great idea that needs to move beyond the o-club.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I know, you guys really don't want the facts, but here you go anyway...
http://www.dccc.org/100hours/
Promises from Democrats. Forgive me if I dont hold my breath.
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Originally posted by WhiteHawk
So you feel the war in Iraq is going good then?? MMkay
It could always go better as any conflict could.
So do I think we should stay the course in Iraq regardless of how long it takes?
Do I think it will be a huge mistake if the US turn tail and run as the dems and anti war nuts are advocating?
Yes and Yes!
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Originally posted by Eagler
So do I think we should stay the course in Iraq regardless of how long it takes?
what is the objective?
how will we know that we've achieved it?
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Originally posted by mietla
what is the objective?
how will we know that we've achieved it?
one objective would be when the badguys stop blowing up innocent women and children, that would be a start.
you will know when it happens because CNN will stop reporting that XX people have been blown up in Baghdad today.
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Originally posted by john9001
one objective would be when the badguys stop blowing up innocent women and children, that would be a start.
you will know when it happens because CNN will stop reporting that XX people have been blown up in Baghdad today.
In other words, we'll be in Iraq for the next few centuries.
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Originally posted by Slash27
Promises from Democrats. Forgive me if I dont hold my breath.
Republicans keep promises and Democrats break promises, eh?
Simple as that?
Regards,
hap
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Originally posted by Sandman
In other words, we'll be in Iraq for the next few centuries.
we have been in germany for 60 years.
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Well said John.
Though the fact of the defeat, occupation, and US military presence in Germany might not be an apt comparision.
It's different over in the Middle East.
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Originally posted by Hap
Well said John.
Though the fact of the defeat, occupation, and US military presence in Germany might not be an apt comparision.
It's different over in the Middle East.
Ya think?
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"Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." -- George W. Bush during the 2000 election campaign while criticizing then President Clinton for declining to set a withdrawal timetable for Kosovo.
Politics is a global open sewer, stinking up a planet filled mostly with nice people.
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Originally posted by Rolex
"Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the president to explain to us what the exit strategy is." -- George W. Bush during the 2000 election campaign while criticizing then President Clinton for declining to set a withdrawal timetable for Kosovo.
Politics is a global open sewer, stinking up a planet filled mostly with nice people.
The Kosovo war, a civil war within what was left of Yugoslavia...(Serbia-Montenegro) officially in ended June 1999.
So when Bush said what you quote, wasn't he referring to bringing troops home after victory was achieved?
B4 you talk of "Mission Accomplished" That speech was referring to (paraphrasing) 'end of major combat operations' As far as I can tell, what he said that day was true. What has been happening since a rather low level insurgency. I don't remember hearing of any big tank battles or infantry charges.
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Originally posted by Hap
Republicans keep promises and Democrats break promises, eh?
Simple as that?
Regards,
hap
A bit reactionary arent we?
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Originally posted by john9001
one objective would be when the badguys stop blowing up innocent women and children, that would be a start.
how about something more realistic, like "when pigs fly" for example?
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Originally posted by Slash27
A bit reactionary arent we?
I was quoting someone Slash. It's easy to get undone on threads I found.
Sandy,
I think the Muslims are crazier than the Nazis.
Yup I do.
hap
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Originally posted by Hap
I think the Muslims are crazier than the Nazis.
blow them up in markets and buses /beheadings vs starving/gassing, cooking them in ovens ..
I think they are equal crazy .. it is just that we have one crazy in our faces and the other crazy is history
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The abominations of each side are off the scale. At least my scale, and are impossible to measure.
Evil masked by religion somehow seems more potent than good old fashion world domination by a master race though of course the latter shares some of the delusional characteristics of the former.
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ya know its discussions like these that remind me of why I like the show jericho. At first i wondered WTF ? why would any american nuke the capital? then it dawned on me and I was like, oh yeah ....
NOTICE: I am NOT advocationg in any way shape or form nuking our capital or any other revolutionary ideas....honest!! justl ike the show
oh and BUGS in 08' !!!
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Man I don't believe this....
on the News...
the Democrats are begging for some noodle....
wait....
ohhh Subpoenas.... that's different...need to really get my hearing checked.
Never Mind
:D
Mac
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:rofl My first thought was very crude as well. That's what you get when you have women and gays running the party.
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Where do they come up with stuff like this?
The Rodham Rap (http://www.atomfilms.com/film/rodham_rap.jsp?channelKeyword=channel_funny_songs)
:huh
Mac
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The current witch hunt is just that, obviously. The Clintons fired over 90 U.S. attorneys, and no one said a word. Gonzales fired 8.
Both parties obstruct justice to protect themselves, what else is new? Its easy for them to cover up these days, they cry about being the poor victims of political folly (to fire up the party loyal), while not addressing the issue and passing the buck.
It's all a big joke and US citizens are the punchline... all this finger pointing and bickering is just Republican & Democrat business as usual. Don't waste your vote on a Demon-ublican or Repulic-Rat, they are the same vile fluid in different bottles.
Half of registered voters don't vote, add that more people than ever before are registering as Independents... if 50% of those who don't vote, voted Independent we might see some real change in this country AND scare the DC drunks into doing a good job, or lose their place in Govt.
As it stands today, the Dums & Repukes cant commit enough crimes or screw up bad enough to lose power, something is very wrong with that.
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It's all a big joke and US citizens are the punchline... all this finger pointing and bickering is just Republican & Democrat business as usual. Don't waste your vote on a Demon-ublican or Repulic-Rat, they are the same vile fluid in different bottles.
Exactly. All this bickering on this bbs between Democrats and Republicans over which is better is an exercise in futility. Neither is better, both are equally bad. When folks wake up and realize this, then and only then will change for the better happen.
Half of registered voters don't vote, add that more people than ever before are registering as Independents... if 50% of those who don't vote, voted Independent we might see some real change in this country AND scare the DC drunks into doing a good job, or lose their place in Govt.
I don't believe that will happen in time.