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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: titanic3 on March 24, 2007, 06:52:21 PM
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i have just tried flying the c205 today and works like a dream. i just need some tips on that plane. maybe c202 too. thx
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nah
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You must demonstrate the proper handshake before we can divulge the secrets of the C2.
P.S. Just landed 16 kills in one in one of the LWAs (Orange I think). New Krusty record!!
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A "Krusty" record?:lol
Tips for the C. 205: Take 100% gas, get alt, dive and run.
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Er... it doesn't dive that great (it will compress)... and it doesn't run that fast (most will out-run it)... It does a lot of things well, but no one thing great. It turns fairly well, but don't use the flaps they don't help much if at all.
It's very short legged. As bad as a spitfire. Take 100% always. NEVER ever take less. Not even for base defense hops.
If you take the C202 up it has the same gas storage but a weaker engine so it has more range, in THAT plane you can take 75%, but I'd suggest never going below this.
The guns are nice, but they are MG151/20s. If you're not used to LW guns, aim a little high until you get it. The head position moves up nicely, so you can reposition it for high angle under-the-nose shots.
Snapshots are nice, but sometimes you just have to pound the SOB repeatedly until he dies.
So fly it timid at first, then get more aggressive. Then when you get too aggressive and start spinning out and popping flaps, ease up a bit, and you should be good to go.
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Originally posted by titanic3
i have just tried flying the c205 today and works like a dream. i just need some tips on that plane. maybe c202 too. thx
Well....
The C205 is a pig. It has very nice guns - 500 cannon shells is nothing to sniff at - but it can't turn and it can't roll and it compresses in a dive, so it is a pig.
Now the C202 is a true gentleman's airplane. It is light as a feather, climbs well, turns well, retains its energy. It has just one weakness, which, as many gentlemen will agree, is best spoken of quietly...
...it is impotent...it needs Viagra in its guns...
So..the art is in the chase. You must use all of your skills to cleverly maneuver yourself into just the right position at the proper moment, taking every advantage of your opponent's ego, and then, with a smooth caress and a throbbing follow-through, you maximize all you have, and fire until you are empty.
I suggest setting covergence at 200, take no shot beyond that.
- oldman
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202 v 205:
202 turns better a bit, 680 yards vs 720 yards if I recall.
205 is 20mph faster
205 accelerates a helluva lot faster
205 has markedly improved climb rate (breaking 4000fpm below 5k)
205 has the 20mms with 500 rounds. Seems like a lot, but you can waste a lot trying to get a kill.
So while the 202 does turn better, don't discount the E-fighter that is the 205. It can blow E and regain it better, both in level flight and in climb. With its greater horsepower it can also zoom and loop better, and only takes a second to kill, vs 5-15 seconds in the C202.
I've flown both of them a lot. Just today I landed 16 kills in a 205. This tour I've also landed 12 kills in a 202 (yep! Got the landing on film, but not the sortie). Of the two, the 205 is a much more capable fighter. Think of it like the a6m2 vs the a6m5. Faster, better armament, better climb, speed, just doesn't turn as tight, but still quite the capable fighter.
All, of course, in my opinion.
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Originally posted by Oldman731
Well....
The C205 is a pig. It has very nice guns - 500 cannon shells is nothing to sniff at - but it can't turn and it can't roll and it compresses in a dive, so it is a pig.
- oldman
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong.
1.) It doesn't compress.
2.) You have ALL forgot a secret to unlocking the potential of the 205. That is BURN THE WINGS TANKS FIRST. It will roll with 190's, and turn very good.
It is a VERY effective fighter.
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The 205 is a pig only in dweeb's hands. It rolls well and dont compress too much at high speeds ... you'll eat every 109 trying to escape nosing down.
Sure, its not a Hog or a 190 but it does good at high speeds against many other a/c. If you dont mix too much with the turn and burn crowd, then its a wonderful mid arena fighter. His punch is more than enuff to hunt bombers up to 20K+.
Wonderful early 1943 fighter, awuful graphics so far, tho.
Heya Kusty, howdy!
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The C2’s are fun planes, but they don’t do anything a 109 or spit doesn’t do better. I like the 202 most, perhaps because it is such a challenge with its anemic firepower. Emptied my guns into a B26 once … it flew along quite happily while I had to RTB for ammo.
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It handles better than a 109 at high speeds. Turning is also similar, out of my head I'd say it's on par with the 109G...6?
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205 is a bundle of fun just looking to get let loose like a can of WHOPoscar on a furball.
Ohh and forget the default skin, grab the 1st one up. Makes it look like a YAK!
YEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhh hhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwww.
Don't fixate, don't get slow, shoot & scoot.
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I've often heard that burning your fuel tanks in a particular order helps a great deal in the 205s handling. Never can remember the sequence though...anyone?
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The C.205 has cannons and a cool paint job.
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Originally posted by aztec
I've often heard that burning your fuel tanks in a particular order helps a great deal in the 205s handling. Never can remember the sequence though...anyone?
Read my above post silly!
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Duhhhh, well ya can't be this good lookin and smart too Karaya:cool:
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Originally posted by Angus
It handles better than a 109 at high speeds. Turning is also similar, out of my head I'd say it's on par with the 109G...6?
While I don't want to put down the C205 all 109 F,G and K are faster (F is just as fast under 20k), turns better both with and without flaps (even the K), climbs better (F only above 5k), and accelerates better.
I suspect the reason you think the C205 handles better at high speed is the same reason people say the same about the 109F compared to G's and the K: You can dive steeper in a slow plane without reaching critically high speeds. I "feel" the K compresses much faster than the G-2, but in reality they are almost identical. The K simply gets up to speed much quicker. And the C205 is no faster than a 109F.
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I'd equate the 205 to a weak Spit IX. It does almost all of the same things slightly worse but it has more ammo.
It doesn't like to take hits either so avoid getting shot at and it doesn't like to fly missing wing parts. Losing part of a wing in a 205 probably means you're not getting home.
Keep it fast and look for opportunistic targets and it will do just fine. It won't turn with the best turn fighters and it won't run with the best B'n'Z types but it does everyhing decent and that's what makes it fun to fly.
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Macchi's are cool and get you the chix (or dudes if thats your cup of tea).
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Gatt: Hiya! Are you back? Or just passing through? :P
Masher: I totally disagree. The fuel tanks in the C2 are very small. Burning the fuel off in those first, would be about the same as firing off 150 rounds of cannon. You don't save much. Besides that, I've never had any problems with roll rate unless I'm over 450mph and start to lock up.
Bald: It's VERY misleading to compare it to a spit9. Spit9 flies on rails. You point the nose, it goes. The C2 doesn't turn as well, doesn't stall as well, doesn't nose up as well, or do anything as well as the spit9. Totally different species of aircraft. IMO comparing those two is like comparing the P40E to the P-38. That is to say: no comparison.
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Tip: Dont let a 109 in behind you!
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Originally posted by Viking
While I don't want to put down the C205 all 109 F,G and K are faster (F is just as fast under 20k), turns better both with and without flaps (even the K), climbs better (F only above 5k), and accelerates better.
I suspect the reason you think the C205 handles better at high speed is the same reason people say the same about the 109F compared to G's and the K: You can dive steeper in a slow plane without reaching critically high speeds. I "feel" the K compresses much faster than the G-2, but in reality they are almost identical. The K simply gets up to speed much quicker. And the C205 is no faster than a 109F.
I am serious, - the 205 surprized me a long time ago with it's quality at insane speeds. Hehe, this thread encouraged me to fly it yesterday in AHII, now I just need some 109 stick to come over to the DA/TA for some high speed tests.
But shees a tad slower. Howe many HP? DB601 right?
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GATT!!!! Welcome back, bro! :)
I'm very happy to see you here, I hope you read the post I left in 4 Stormo's forum... I need some help in my lobbying campaign! ;)
EDIT: Btw, Karaya, fuel tanks in the C.202/205 are in the wing roots, really near the fuselage... maybe burning them before may give you some better roll performance, but I'm not sure it will be a large edge, it should be really tiny considering how close to the fuselage are the tanks.
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Originally posted by Angus
I am serious, - the 205 surprized me a long time ago with it's quality at insane speeds. Hehe, this thread encouraged me to fly it yesterday in AHII, now I just need some 109 stick to come over to the DA/TA for some high speed tests.
But shees a tad slower. Howe many HP? DB601 right?
It should have the same engine as the G-2/6. If you see me online I'd be happy to test fly a 109 with you. If the C205 handles better at high speed it will not surprise me ... it's not THAT hard to handle better than a 109 at high speed. ;)
Btw. I'm xVIKINGx online.
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you're right, Viking, it's the DB605, the .202 has the DB601...
Btw, gents, if you like the 205, you'll love the G.55... more wing surface, better handling and maneuverability, especially at high altitude... vote for it, you won't be disappointed!
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Originally posted by Krusty
Gatt: Hiya! Are you back? Or just passing through? :P
Masher: I totally disagree. The fuel tanks in the C2 are very small. Burning the fuel off in those first, would be about the same as firing off 150 rounds of cannon. You don't save much. Besides that, I've never had any problems with roll rate unless I'm over 450mph and start to lock up.
I'm not going to start a pissin match with you Krusty. Neither one of us need it. I have found that it makes a difference. Just good enough to make the plane a little more responsive. <>