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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: crowMAW on March 25, 2007, 10:04:57 PM
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OK...so, no surprise on at least one revelation.
BUT...2008!!! WHAT THE HELL! :mad:
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I was wondering that too....that was the season finale? In March?
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That was just WRONG. :furious
P.S. Bob Dylan...:lol
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I know, shocker.....
But scifi does this all the time. 12 epps here, 20 here, take a break....for 9 months....
usually they come back in november but 2008 is a long time.
I did like the twist and don't fully beleive the 5 really are the 5.
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Originally posted by LePaul
I was wondering that too....that was the season finale? In March?
Yes, it was the season finale. Tonight was also the series finale for Rome.
The last 20 minutes of BSG was what I've been yearning for the whole season. Get the running battle dogfight warfare part of the story going.
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good thing I've been downloading all the eps... I'll never remember what happened by the time 2008 rolls around!
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BSG cold turkey?
BOTTLESTORE GALACTICA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRxA4p62n6c)
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Man, what an ending:O I guess the Cylons found Earth first.
And wtf am I supposed to do till 2008? What a load of crap that is.
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Was Jimi a Cylon? Am I a Cylon? If I die today...
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I gotta scream now ...
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too long to wait, 2008? what the frak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kve1oGPjf8
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I'll never look at a toaster the same way evar again.
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man what an episode 2008 WTF I FRACKIN HATE THAT
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ok a few things that are bugging the **** outa me preventing much needed sleep.
1. How the hell could Col. Tigh be a Cylon? He was around for the first war against the old school toasters.
2. How did Starbuck get a Viper?
3. Was it Hendrix or Dylan?
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wait, they where talking some time ago about new show before BSG,
first war with the toaster's s
Dylans' Song , sounds like Hendrix version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Along_the_Watchtower
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Originally posted by icemaw
man what an episode 2008 WTF I FRACKIN HATE THAT
So say we all.
They did announce plans for a 2 hour movie between season 3-4 a couple months ago. It's supposed to be a sideline story, and seperate from the story arcs in the regular epps. Its supposed to show in the fall.
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March 22, 2007
SCI FI has renewed Battlestar Galactica for a full fourth season, commissioning 22 hour-long episodes of "the best show on television." This will include a special two-hour extended event that will air during fourth quarter 2007 and be released on DVD by Universal Studios Home Entertainment. Production will resume in May with an eye toward a early 2008 season premiere.
http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/news/ (http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/news/)
yep looks like we get a fix .... after many long months of withdrawels ...
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Originally posted by Slash27
3. Was it Hendrix or Dylan?
Neither. Bear McCreary, the shows composer did it. You can read about the background of that version here (http://www.bearmccreary.com/html/blog/blogmain.htm) on his blog.
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Either this guy had some insight or one lucky guess...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7da3iwxMUjU
Was done last November.
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Originally posted by Slash27
ok a few things that are bugging the **** outa me preventing much needed sleep.
1. How the hell could Col. Tigh be a Cylon? He was around for the first war against the old school toasters.
rumor is,
TY and the other 3 last night and Starbuck, are still held captive by the
cylons somewhere, and they where replaced by clones.
Ty might have been replaced late in the 1st war with a early clone.
waiting to 2008 SUCKS !!!!!!
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Originally posted by crowMAW
Either this guy had some insight or one lucky guess...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7da3iwxMUjU
Was done last November.
The force is strong with that one.:eek:
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Could be more sinister.
Anyone remember that movie Imposter? Where the guy was a clone with a sort of biological bomb implanted him? And he was triggered by seeing certain things.
Now why would the 4 of them come together at a certain place and time? And is there a missing piece (ie starbuck)?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Now why would the 4 of them come together at a certain place and time? And is there a missing piece (ie starbuck)?
It all happened before yaddayaddayadda.. the future is already written yaddayaddayadda..
Apparently they have no control over their lives and everything happens as a result of an intelligent design.
I would say they are the messengers of god who all the Cylons will listen to and Number Six is there to wittness this and convince the other Cylons that the newly realised Cylons are indeed Cylons too and not a trick of the humans. Number Six has always been religiously zealous in a different way than the others.
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What about President Laura? Why did she have the same dream as Sharon?
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Don't forget she got blood from the baby for her cancer. I would guess that would give her some kind of connection.
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ah, good call:aok
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Ok heres my final predication:
The four are clones replaced on New Caprica by the Cylons (remember they were all resistance fighters).
What I'm not sure about is their function:
- spies?
- preprogrammed plants
- bioweapons (ever see the movie imposter, where the clone was a bio weapon designed to explode on a certain visual stimuli)
This also means the Starbuck we saw die was not really Starbuck.
Why did they come together with the music thing? Is that a flaw in their design? Or is it the bioweapon thing where all 5 of them have to come together to explode or something (like unlock their programming).
The presidents dreams are the result of the blood transfusion.
Apollo is halucinating or having 'visions'.
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Why that song though? Are they that close to Earth that they are picking up radio signals?
And as far as Starbuck, any theories on where she got a Viper?
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the real question is "why didnt they get sick and die when the virous came aboard from that drone"???
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BSG Started off great, but there has been a lot of shark jumping in the last 3 episodes and it's starting to lose it's shine for me.
1st. The Chief as union leader.
2nd. Lee as Perry Mason.
I can suspend disbelief only so much, and these tend to be "a plot device too far." It's a plague of good sci fi, all the way back to Star Trek - TOS. Let’s see, why don't we have all the major characters, including all of the senior command staff, beam down into peril (and the big episode story) because of the lead characters' egos and budgets (since you already have these guys under contract, and you have limited the core cast to a handfull, why pay for someone else with enough acting chops to do a walk on role...)
Although ST-TNG was too politically correct 1990s new age for me, at least they avoided this for the most part. You had Picard on the bridge most of the time, with Riker and the others holding their story lines as required in a more realistic fashion doing much of the exotic stuff in a more believable command structure kind of way. Enterprise, for all its promise and hot Vulcan chick, got back to the same crap.
With BSG , there is a wealth of supporting cast to take on such ancillary plotlines. I can only assume its ego among the main characters.
The Union thing would have been a natural for Tom Zarek to have a conflict with Rosylin. Frankly, The chief and his wife should have been airlocked, IMO, for their mutinous behavior.
The Baltar trial could also have easily involved Tom Zarek in a new political struggle with Roslyn instead of another continuation of Lee's daddy complex. For that matter, the new lawyer didn't really need any assistance. The only positive is that Lee's speech did try to explain away some of the previous minor plot irritations.
I hope this isn't a sign of things to come. BSG remains must see TV for me, and I hope it stays that way.
As RPM pointed out it was also the finale of Rome. And that was about as close to perfection as I could want. What a fantastic series and what a fine ending. What BSG needs is the cold and calculating Admiral Octavian, President Atia to handle the domestic issues and perhaps Pullo as the CAG -- a simple man and a warrior worthy of Starbuck. Something tells me this whole Cylon mess would be cleared up in no time :)
Charon
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Space: Above and Beyond
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Spend millions on highly-trained space fighter pilots, and then give them a pistol and tell them to fight a ground war against alien supersoldiers
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Space: Above and Beyond
or
Spend millions on highly-trained space fighter pilots, and then give them a pistol and tell them to fight a ground war against alien supersoldiers
LOL. Yes, and of course, BSG has also gone this route with Lee and Starbuck.
Charon
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Really ruins the immersion, huh. :)
For "the best show on television", you'd think they'd spend a little extra money and have all those Marines you see everywhere on Galactica actually do something besides guarding doorways.
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Do something? Like what, picking up trash? I think Jerry Seinfeld did a bit on that about New York police. In the environment they have there, they're limited to training and guarding, and presumably the guarding is the more visible activity because the president isn't chatting at whatever part of the ship is Cramped Pendleton.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Get to the running battle!!! That was the core of the original BSG and now it seems to be a way to end an episode they are having trouble wrapping up.
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The original series lasted 17 episodes. There's a limit to how long you can keep the running battle going without it getting stale.
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Versus how long you can keep you male core audience tuned to a soap.
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The best regular episode for me, and the one that I found a really good Science Fiction vs. Sci Fi concept was where they had to jump every 30 minutes because they were being tracked. The basic Science Fiction element was exploring the reality of the unlimited endurance of the machine vs. human biology in the military environment. Plus there was tension and excitment.
I don't mind the soap elements and exploring the "new society" (also a core in real science fiction) as long as it is executed in a believable manner.
Btw, I actually wrote for a "soap" at college as one of 8 writers for two semesters that was acted and filmed for local cable. I went to Columbia College in Chicago, which has a strong television and communications program and this course offering integrated multiple disciplines in a real world environment. It was amazing how "Hollywood" the directors and some of the actors became in their attitudes :) But, as a writer it was a lot of fun and somewhat less formula driven than the real thing.
I also went though a Science Fiction writing class under Phyllis Eisenstein, a well published but not “big name” science fiction and fantasy writer. She imparted the difference between “sci fi” (Battle of Midway in space) and pure intellectual science fiction (exploring the dynamics of future cultures and technology). I’m a fan of both, liking Star Wars as much as (but in a far different way) the works of Clarke or Heinlein. However, the sci fi has to at least have basic believability and logical actions/interactions.
Charon
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I was always fond of Babylon5. Kosh was the so cool.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Do something? Like what, picking up trash? I think Jerry Seinfeld did a bit on that about New York police. In the environment they have there, they're limited to training and guarding, and presumably the guarding is the more visible activity because the president isn't chatting at whatever part of the ship is Cramped Pendleton.
I don't mean on the ship, Chairboy. I was referring to the ground-action combat scenes, where you have your most important characters unrealistically fighting a ground battle against trained enemy soldiers. The captain of a ship (Picard), or highly-trained space fighter pilots (Lee Adama), should not be involved in storming an enemy base to rescue hostages.
My point was that this kind of thing was prevalent in "Space: Above and Beyond", and really ruined the immersion because it was so nonsensical. For a show as well-made as BSG, they should really use those marines for the ground battle-type scenes, instead of inserting main characters with rifles into those scenes just for budgetary reasons.
Hell, make a new main character who's the Marine SpecOps Tactical Ultra Hostage Rescue guy, and just use him if you have to.
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Originally posted by Charon
Although ST-TNG was too politically correct 1990s new age for me,
That coupled with the Enterprise being low bid piece of crap. Its seemed 90% of the time the "NCC-1701-D" was put in some kind of altercation or stand off, weapons were "offline" or knocked out by a single hit from the enemy. That got a little old. Seems the E is a far better ship.:D
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Originally posted by Xargos
I was always fond of Babylon5. Kosh was the so cool.
"And so it begins"
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That coupled with the Enterprise being low bid piece of crap. Its seemed 90% of the time the "NCC-1701-D" was put in some kind of altercation or stand off, weapons were "offline" or knocked out by a single hit from the enemy. That got a little old. Seems the E is a far better ship.
And the ability of Jordi to "McGuiver" a new warp drive or trans flux stasis combublator in 30 minutes about every episode only using a toothpick and rubberband.
Jordi: It's going to take three weeks Captain to get it back online...
Picard: I need that up in 30 minutes!
Jordi: That's going to be tight, but will do! :)
Charon
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:rofl :aok
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Like sands through the hourglass...so are the days of our lives
(cue music)
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Originally posted by Charon
And the ability of Jordi to "McGuiver" a new warp drive or trans flux stasis combublator in 30 minutes about every episode only using a toothpick and rubberband.
Jordi: It's going to take three weeks Captain to get it back online...
Picard: I need that up in 30 minutes!
Jordi: That's going to be tight, but will do! :)
Charon
Aye lad! jordi wasnt no scotty by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Least with scotty ya knew he was a miracle worker, often some unbeleivable feat of super ability but jimmy doohan always was able to pull it off with flair and style.
The best i describe it is this: you the veiwer KNEW it was imposible, and was done in alot of episodes but ya had this unspoken agreement that he wouldnt really expect you to believe it but to just enjoy the show at the same time you agreed to not cry BS every episode becouse you were entertained.
THAT was the magic known as the scotty effect. poor jordi was merely and actor playing a part.
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Aye lad! jordi wasnt no scotty by ANY stretch of the imagination.
Least with scotty ya knew he was a miracle worker, often some unbeleivable feat of super ability but jimmy doohan always was able to pull it off with flair and style.
The best i describe it is this: you the veiwer KNEW it was imposible, and was done in alot of episodes but ya had this unspoken agreement that he wouldnt really expect you to believe it but to just enjoy the show at the same time you agreed to not cry BS every episode becouse you were entertained.
THAT was the magic known as the scotty effect. poor jordi was merely and actor playing a part.
Absolutely! With Jordi it was almost an afterthough. Oh...Ok captain.
Charon
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Originally posted by Slash27
Why that song though? Are they that close to Earth that they are picking up radio signals?
And as far as Starbuck, any theories on where she got a Viper?
I assumed the song was the wake-up call that triggered them into realization. I thought that if Starbuck really did find or get close to Earth, she or it may have been transmitting it to activate the other four. Assuming it really is the song it sounds like, and that song would only be from Earth.
That all falls apart when figuring that a trigger would have needed to have been implanted or programmed earlier...how would the Cylons already have that song.
No clue on the Viper, although I missed the episode where she was 'killed' so I didn't see how it went down.
Murdr's link the the composer's blog seems to shoot down my thoughts on where the tune actually came from.
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Originally posted by Fury
I assumed the song was the wake-up call that triggered them into realization. I thought that if Starbuck really did find or get close to Earth, she or it may have been transmitting it to activate the other four. Assuming it really is the song it sounds like, and that song would only be from Earth.
That all falls apart when figuring that a trigger would have needed to have been implanted or programmed earlier...how would the Cylons already have that song.
No clue on the Viper, although I missed the episode where she was 'killed' so I didn't see how it went down.
Murdr's link the the composer's blog seems to shoot down my thoughts on where the tune actually came from.
Im going to rewatch the final two episodes. I swear Anders and Tigh heard that song coming over the radio in the bar, or it was just in their head, I dunno.:O
Starbucks Viper blew up but they did show her grabbing the ejecting lever right before.
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Yea that's true...they did hear it coming from the radio. Maybe that was a nasty trick by the Producers to throw us off....after a while, I figured it was definitely coming from (or moved to) their heads based on Tigh freaking out about the walls!
Something else that's silly...I didn't pay much attention to the actual tune during Part 1, but somewhere along the line in Part 2 I did start to pay attention because the more I heard it, the more I finally thought I was starting to think it sounded familiar :huh. It was pretty obvious near the end what it was, but there was that in-between time where it was bugging me in the back of my brain......I blame the Producers for that one, trying to drive me insane.
Another nasty trick is the fact that there were only four of them in the hold....the assumption at the end of the show is that Starbuck is the 5th....or is she? There's a lot to support that she is, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Producers jerk me around on that one too.
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BSG. Where do I start? When this series first came out, I was very excited about it (big fan of the original). It was on Friday nights, and I would record it, since my wife and I went out every Friday night. No matter how late I got home, I couldn’t resist the urge to sit down and run the tape (I TiVo, now…technologies great!). Since lifting off New Caprica, however, it takes me days to gen up enough interest to select it from the TiVo list and push play. That about sums it up for me.
I’m tired of the never-ending soap opra (the ridiculously large amount of commercials doesn’t help, even knowing I can just fast-forward through them), the ever-larger plot holes (to many to recount, but the whole issue Baltar’s nuke that destroyed Cloud Nine being completely ignored being just one of the more unbelievable), and the brooding characters who are continually doing things out of character and/or for no believable reasons. And now they want me to wait over 9 months (remember, “Returns in 2008” doesn’t guarantee it will be in January), after showing a measly 10 or 11 episodes? Good grief!