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Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:08:26 AM
Nothing to see here, move along.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 12:16:26 AM
dang
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:19:17 AM
Sorry... I went off the deep end on this thread and moderated myself.... it got really ugly and I was gonna flame myself before I deleted everything...

I think I cursed everything under the Sun too...

Man you missed it.

Sorry

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 12:27:50 AM
chicken for dinner again?

:confused:
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:28:23 AM
I was in "Three Part Harmony" also....

Eight paragraphs..bold words, underlines, Photo's of the approach and getaway..

Heated rant too...from 1960's to way South of the Reo Grande.... you woulda been proud of me.

So many sig stuff too.

But I regress...

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:29:50 AM
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Originally posted by JB88
chicken for dinner again?

:confused:


Naw but Duck would be fine.

:D

Mac






word
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 12:30:20 AM
prove it.

:cool:
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:34:52 AM
Naw....

Meeting Dichotomy tomorrow at DFW. Might stop in and see Skuzz and HT...don't need a whippin.

:D

Mac

But I was in fine form...Named every Democrat and a few Republicans.. I'm glad I moderated myself.

:D

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Mr No Name on March 26, 2007, 12:36:51 AM
It mustve had something to do with the unusual influence mexico has had over the last few years.  it seems that the US federal government cares more about the illegal alien invaders than it does about protecting the lives, property and prosperity of its citizens and LEGAL residents.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:40:06 AM
swims by... see the bait and rusty hook....swims along by....

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Slash27 on March 26, 2007, 12:41:03 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Naw....

Meeting Dichotomy tomorrow at DFW. Might stop in and see Skuzz and HT...don't need a whippin.

:


You two can bring me lunch while you're at it.:D
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:42:16 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
You two can bring me lunch while you're at it.:D


You in DFW?
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 12:44:13 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Man you missed it.

Sorry

Mac
Naa, I didn't miss it, GF ack hit before I could hit the quote button. The gods were smiling upon you. ;)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 12:51:35 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Naa, I didn't miss it, GF ack hit before I could hit the quote button. The gods were smiling upon you. ;)


Hope I didn't ruffle feathers...

It's just an issue that rubs my arse raw. I take it you seen that with what I typed?

GODs have always smiled upon me, it's the Angels sliding up next to me that make me smile.


:p

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:02:02 AM
Naa, I had a great counterpoint to throw in rebuttal, but hey it's all good.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 01:09:33 AM
Give me a chance... I'll be pissssed off again in a few days.

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:13:20 AM
It's a shame really. This thread had the potential to knock the last word thread off the page. But, things happen for a reason. Who are we to reason why?

BTW, Live and Let Die is the bestest James Bond theme song. Just sayin'.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 01:18:05 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
It's a shame really. This thread had the potential to knock the last word thread off the page. But, things happen for a reason. Who are we to reason why?

BTW, Live and Let Die is the bestest James Bond theme song. Just sayin'.


Live and Let Die was the Ubber James Bond...

But then again I think Paul McCartney really died in the late '70's.

Just my thoughts.

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:19:59 AM
I think we all died a little when Linda joined the band.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 01:22:14 AM
ah linda.  like a fine french wine that goes well with fish.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:24:50 AM
A chardonnay? I always considered her singing more like a Shar-Pei.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 01:28:00 AM
Muhahahahhahhaaa... That was great!!!


But what goes well with Yoko?


Ono can't wait to see this....

Just Imagine...


Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:31:42 AM
All I am saying....
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 01:33:21 AM
you say you want a revolution...well you know,
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:35:51 AM
.daed si lauP
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 01:37:38 AM
uhhhhhh...unta gleeten glouten globen?




:confused:
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: culero on March 26, 2007, 01:38:00 AM
You guys need to get over it. Mexicanos are good neighbors, even when their backs are wet. Strong work ethic and strong family devotion, which they tend to have in spades, are qualities to be admired. That's exactly the kind of people I want for neighbors in my community.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 01:40:37 AM
There's nothing like the 'ol Satanic Backmasking....

I love all the old songs... Backwards and sdraweroF...

caM

:t
Title: Culero
Post by: moot on March 26, 2007, 01:42:37 AM
I fell for that appearance too, lent them money after a year+ of mutual help and hanging out.  They took it and ran with it, litteraly.
They're no different than any other human.. the one category they most belong to is desperation.

They should get in line like everyone else.  If the US really needs the labor and whatever else they offer, then it will legaly accept them as they already are, illegaly.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 01:44:10 AM
Sweet, let's play 6 degrees of sepreation. Linda McCartney was married to Paul...
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 01:46:53 AM
who once met a man from nantucket
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 01:48:48 AM
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Originally posted by culero
You guys need to get over it. Mexicanos are good neighbors, even when their backs are wet. Strong work ethic and strong family devotion, which they tend to have in spades, are qualities to be admired. That's exactly the kind of people I want for neighbors in my community.



Chit hombres we went from "Lennon" to "Let em in" in a matter of seconds....

Mac

Hey wait this is MY thread.... No Soup for you!!!!
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 01:51:34 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Sweet, let's play 6 degrees of sepreation. Linda McCartney was married to Paul...


No no Nooooo.... Paul McCartney was married to Linda....

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Elfie on March 26, 2007, 02:02:09 AM
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Originally posted by culero
You guys need to get over it. Mexicanos are good neighbors, even when their backs are wet. Strong work ethic and strong family devotion, which they tend to have in spades, are qualities to be admired. That's exactly the kind of people I want for neighbors in my community.


Thats awesome.......just as long as they come here LEGALLY. :)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 02:11:01 AM
Give me your tired, your hungry, your... HEY YOU!!! GET BACK IN LINE!!!
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 02:14:15 AM
your hot chicks yearning to be free.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 02:15:56 AM
"Press 2 for Engrish......."
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 02:20:23 AM
Mac, you have no idea what I went thru tonight with a Western Union operator.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 02:22:08 AM
a hell the likes of which are only seen when suzanne summers makes movies?
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 02:32:10 AM
or sitcoms and infomercials
(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/690/3shesthesheriff1.jpg)(http://www.suzannesomers.com/Products/thighmaster/mainf_15c.jpg)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 26, 2007, 02:33:11 AM
<------yet, he cant help but ask himself.  would he hit that?

:confused:

(http://www.suzannesomers.com/Products/thighmaster/mainf_15c.jpg)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 02:37:19 AM
In the day or today?

















aww, you know the answer...
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Pooh21 on March 26, 2007, 02:37:32 AM
I would but I would need some beer first.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 03:09:51 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Mac, you have no idea what I went thru tonight with a Western Union operator.


Pleeez tell me....This has GOTTA be good!!!!


Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: AWMac on March 26, 2007, 03:12:11 AM
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Originally posted by JB88
<------yet, he cant help but ask himself.  would he hit that?

:confused:

(http://www.suzannesomers.com/Products/thighmaster/mainf_15c.jpg)


Only if the Grind would promise me a bloody nose and busted lips....

:p

Mac
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 26, 2007, 04:14:42 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
Pleeez tell me....This has GOTTA be good!!!!


Mac
Hmm, have to edit this without giving Western Union info away...
OK, a customer comes in at the start of my shift and wants to send a WU payment to his mortgage company. The CodeCity he has listed is not on my screen. I find a different codecity for the same receiver, but want to make sure it gets to the correct account. Trying to give a damn here and not screw the guy... I call Western Union Customer Service...

I tell the customer to be sure his payment goes to the right account, I'm calling WU and check. I call the customer service number enter the applicable codes and get an operator. The following story is true, only the names have been changed to protect the innocent...

WU Operator: Tis iz opuratir 205. Kahn I havre vour IV numtar?

RPM: I'm sorry, I didn't understand you. Say again?

WU Operator: Tis iz opuratir 205. Kahn I havre vour IV numtar?

RPM: Do you want my ID number? It's xxx-xx-xxxx-x

WU Operator: Frank yow. Wow way my felt woo.

RPM: Umm, I'm trying to send a XYZtransfer, but the code city is not showing on my terminal. I want to make sure the customer gets the right receiver. Can you check it for me?

WU Oper: Sum chew howa monatollaotsow holla data.

RPM: Excuse me I didn't understand you.

WU Oper: Sum chew howa monatollaotsow holla data.

RPM: Listen, all I understood was data.  Can I have another operator that speaks better english?

WU Oper: Woo khant understahn me?

RPM: No, I can't.

WU Oper: Then why u ancer my questyun?

RPM: Give me your supervisor, now.

WU  Oper: Wahn meauxmont pweiz

RPM listens to elevator muzak...

WU Super: Hellrow, y ham  opuratir 219. Kahn I havre vour IV numtar?

RPM beats forehead against counter...
Title: Re: Culero
Post by: culero on March 26, 2007, 06:49:41 AM
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Originally posted by moot
I fell for that appearance too, lent them money after a year+ of mutual help and hanging out.  They took it and ran with it, litteraly.
They're no different than any other human.. the one category they most belong to is desperation.

They should get in line like everyone else.  If the US really needs the labor and whatever else they offer, then it will legaly accept them as they already are, illegaly.


moot, all due respect bro, but I reckon I'm in a better position to make this call.

As I type this from my house, I am a 20 minute drive from an international bridge to Mexico. The area I live in has a population of close to a million people, 85-90% (depending on which demographic studies you believe) of Mexican heritage. On the other side of that bridge (and the other half-dozen or so bridges here) there are close to twice that many Mexicans living. I am bilingual, English primary but also fluent in Mexican-dialect Spanish.

I grew up in this community, as did my father and mother before me. I'd say its likely I'm a lot more in touch with the community and cultural values of the average Mexican immigrant or Hispanic American than you and most people who post on this board.

I'll repeat myself. Mexicans make good neighbors. They tend to be hard-working, industrious, and have excellent family values. I manage the circulation of a couple of newspapers here, and I accomplish all my deliveries by contracting them to individuals. I manage about 150 contractors and employees. Maybe half a dozen or 10 of them are gringos. Of all 150, maybe 2 or 3 are lazy and unproductive (and they won't last long!) I do business with 40,000 or so subscribers and a couple of thousand retail partners. Only about 10% of those are gringos. Suffice it to say I have a little experience with how honest and productive Mexicans and Hispanic Americans are :)

I don't doubt you've had a bad experience. Mexicans, like anyone else, do have butt-heads in their community and families and I agree those individuals are despicable. But I'm telling you, from my position of experience, that this is as atypical for Mexicans as it is for gringos.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: culero on March 26, 2007, 06:50:20 AM
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Originally posted by Elfie
Thats awesome.......just as long as they come here LEGALLY. :)


I could not agree more as to that.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 26, 2007, 07:27:06 AM
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Originally posted by culero
You guys need to get over it. Mexicanos are good neighbors, even when their backs are wet. Strong work ethic and strong family devotion, which they tend to have in spades, are qualities to be admired. That's exactly the kind of people I want for neighbors in my community.
ain't that the truth.  mexicans are by far the best citizens in this town.
Title: Re: Culero
Post by: storch on March 26, 2007, 07:39:20 AM
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Originally posted by moot
I fell for that appearance too, lent them money after a year+ of mutual help and hanging out.  They took it and ran with it, litteraly.
They're no different than any other human.. the one category they most belong to is desperation.

They should get in line like everyone else.  If the US really needs the labor and whatever else they offer, then it will legaly accept them as they already are, illegaly.
I'll share storch's rule for lending money.  generally speaking I don't.  

people get themselves into holes.  it builds a better person if the can climb out, I don't interfere with anyone's personal growth.  

On the very few occassions where I have given someone money I do just that I give it and forget about it.  If I've given you money I've done it from my discreationary funds.  that money was probably earmarked for new fishing tackle or a firearm or some such item.  that account seldom has more than $1200 because those items seldomly exceed that amount.  

If I gave you that money it brought me as much joy to share it with you as the new toy would have brought me.  

I have never lost a friend over money but through the years people I have considered friends have gone away because they were expecting my discipline and organizational skills were theirs to tap.  when I said sure I'd help and teach them what they needed to do to solve their problem instead of "lending them money" some left.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: VWE on March 26, 2007, 07:52:16 AM
Uhhh gee Wally... can I have $20.00 to go by some Starbucks coffee before I run out?  
:D
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 26, 2007, 07:55:35 AM
starbucks in the iraqi fertile crescent?  say it ain't so!!! :D besides you don't need twnty bucks you need some good cuban expresso for a buck twenty five
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: culero on March 26, 2007, 07:57:55 AM
storch, you're all right....no matter what the BKs say :)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 26, 2007, 08:00:15 AM
BKs are sock puppets and shane is the puppeteer
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 26, 2007, 08:01:11 AM
I sure do miss that BK I destroyed, whatever it's name was.  ;)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: moot on March 26, 2007, 09:03:22 AM
We're in (almost) perfect agreement Storch, and Culero.
Culero, although I concede you do have more experience than I do, and I accept your opinion is better founded, I still say they need to leave just like every other illegal, and come back legally.
Good neighbours as they may be, everyone'll be better off once they do.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Toad on March 26, 2007, 09:25:16 AM
Legal immigration is the key.

Otherwise, they are just criminals like any other criminals no matter how nice or friendly they are or what great neighbors they make.

IMO they are being used as a tool to destroy the middle class in the US. This will eventually be the true problem and true cost of illegal immigration.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Slash27 on March 26, 2007, 09:25:19 AM
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Originally posted by AWMac
You in DFW?



I work near D/FW airport and live about 60 miles north of there.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 26, 2007, 10:31:42 AM
unquestionably legal immigration is the key.  it is also a major issue which neither political party has the courage to address.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Mr No Name on March 26, 2007, 03:31:47 PM
after and ONLY after U.S. unemployment hits 0.00% should we allow any immigrants in... and even then, only legally and only what we NEED.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: GGhost on March 26, 2007, 08:07:57 PM
Make you wonder after customs & border agent gets tossed in jail for shooting a drug dealier at the border. The dealier is here illegally. He gave up his right to visit America legally.
 
Makes you say: What the devil is going on here?
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: culero on March 27, 2007, 01:35:59 AM
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Originally posted by moot
We're in (almost) perfect agreement Storch, and Culero.
Culero, although I concede you do have more experience than I do, and I accept your opinion is better founded, I still say they need to leave just like every other illegal, and come back legally.
Good neighbours as they may be, everyone'll be better off once they do.


I agree. But, IMO, serious reform of the immigration laws is needed, plus more aggressive pursuit and prosecution of those US citizens who provide employment to illegal aliens.

If the jobs dry up because people don't wanna be spanked for hiring illegals, then we'll by default have much less illegals. And it should be much easier than it is for those people who can fill jobs that we need filled to be here legally.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 27, 2007, 01:44:12 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
unquestionably legal immigration is the key.  it is also a major issue which neither political party has the courage to address.


agreed.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Holden McGroin on March 27, 2007, 05:08:21 AM
Hey this is illegal immigration thing is a serious issue! (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/immigration_the_human_cost)
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: lazs2 on March 27, 2007, 08:23:08 AM
storchita destroyed a BK?   where was I?   What did he do, refuse to lend money to the guy or just refuse to let him in on storchitas awesome organizational skills?    Maybe storchita thinks shane is a BK like he thinks I am lazer in the game?

lazs
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 27, 2007, 08:57:35 AM
hey lazs if you need to borrow money to get new trailer lights for your house or something just ask.  I'll teach you how to earn some legally.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: lazs2 on March 27, 2007, 09:10:43 AM
or some of those mad luftwhiner skilz you have?    

I may sell my house someday and get a trailer.   I could probly manage the lighting tho but thanks.   I haven't built a house in years... always willing to learn about wiring trailers from a master tho.

lazs
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 27, 2007, 09:51:38 AM
that was a cheap shot on my part.  I'll make it up to you.  I'll chip in for the fuses.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: storch on March 27, 2007, 10:40:19 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2
storchita destroyed a BK?   where was I?   What did he do, refuse to lend money to the guy or just refuse to let him in on storchitas awesome organizational skills?    Maybe storchita thinks shane is a BK like he thinks I am lazer in the game?

lazs
all kidding aside who is that guy that got banned with me.  I want to say it was mars but I'm not sure.  I remember he is or was a BK.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: JB88 on March 27, 2007, 10:41:30 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Hey this is illegal immigration thing is a serious issue! (http://www.theonion.com/content/video/immigration_the_human_cost)


lol
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: lazs2 on March 27, 2007, 03:19:20 PM
storchita...  I don't recall.   It might have been mars.   As I recall tho you were loosing it.

I could use some fuses tho...  every time I wire a car I kill a couple getting things sorted out... how bout you?

Far as illegal aliens go... they are illegal.  they are breaking the law.

The guys who hire em are breaking the law too tho.   the thing is... It is easy to get the guys hiring em.  We need to do that.  Put the traitorous bastards in jail and the problem will go away within a year.  

Mandatory jail sentences for any employer who knowingly hires an illegal alien.

lazs
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: rpm on March 27, 2007, 05:02:20 PM
ah, yes. it's the little thread that could.
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: lazs2 on March 28, 2007, 08:56:05 AM
I was surprised to hear mccain talk about arresting and jailing those who would hire illegal aliens because, while we should protect our border... it is pretty much impossible or impractical to keep out illegals if there is opportunity here.

It is like putting out bird feeders and cursing because of all the bird **** around your house.

lazs
Title: Mexico decides American Laws?
Post by: Ack-Ack on March 28, 2007, 02:36:18 PM
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Originally posted by culero
I agree. But, IMO, serious reform of the immigration laws is needed, plus more aggressive pursuit and prosecution of those US citizens who provide employment to illegal aliens.

If the jobs dry up because people don't wanna be spanked for hiring illegals, then we'll by default have much less illegals. And it should be much easier than it is for those people who can fill jobs that we need filled to be here legally.



It would also help to if the Border Patrol didn't keep their checkpoints closed 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days of the year.  In San Diego, there are 2 major checkpoints, on the I-8 and I-5 and a minor one on the Old 94 Highway Route, just east of Chula Vista.  The checkpoints on I-8 (a major illegal alien and drug smuggling route) and the I-5 have been closed for about 3-4 years now and the minor check point has sporadic and random operating hours.  The reason for the closing of the two major checkpoints and the sporadic operation of the other has been blamed on funding.  

You would think if the Republicans were serious, they would make sure the Border Patrol gets the necessary funding to keep these checkpoints open and I'm sure these aren't the only checkpoints that are like this.

But I guess bellicose retoric gets better press and more votes.



ack-ack