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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: 1K3 on March 26, 2007, 07:06:58 PM
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Many people from California move to other Western states to...
- Get out of apartment and buy a house
- Sell that 1-bed/1-bath house that costs $500,000 and move to a state where you can get a mansion for that price.
To sum it up, people in other states are fed up with Calis because...
("Damn Californians")
"They move yet they bring their California-style politics"
"They drive the housing market waay up (or down)"
(...)
I live in Las Vegas. I must say Vegas is becoming the suburb of Los Angeles... fast.
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Ha!
We have that same problem in Oregon. I live in Bend, what was once a nice, small town in the high desert not far from the slopes of Mt. Bachelor. A few years ago several developers moved in and started buying up property and advertised the town as one of the primo recreation spots in the Pacific Northwest.
Now there's thousands of little cracker-box houses with California-licensed cars parked in front of them. Selling for over $300 grand!! Of course, all of them on a postage-stamp size property parcel.
Crime's up. Especially in the schools here (alcohol and substance abuse). Traffic is becomming a nightmare. Parents are now not allowed to spank their kids; the granola invaders are getting laws passes about our dogs and guns as fast as they can lobby the politicians. Our river is now a no-alcohol zone; before it was so much fun to party on the Dechutes!! Every time I turn around there's some sort of new 'initiative' trying to be passed to aid the unemployed and increase the minimum wage. I own a business (a tanning salon...) with my wife and it's virtually impossible to find decent help that will occasionally show up on time and not under the influence. My gawd...they even asked[/b] for a tax increase, something the locals, thank goodness, squashed before it got too far.
I'm praying for an extreme winter with snow and many sub-zero days. Last time that happened the amount of 'for sale' signs on new property was very refreshing....
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Originally posted by 1K3
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I live in Las Vegas. I must say Vegas is becoming the suburb of Los Angeles... fast.
So pray to the Lord, for Californians who like to spend their $$$ in Vegas, Amen!
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When you vote really left, your voting californian.
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Originally posted by Warspawn
Ha!
We have that same problem in Oregon. I live in Bend, what was once a nice, small town in the high desert not far from the slopes of Mt. Bachelor. A few years ago several developers moved in and started buying up property and advertised the town as one of the primo recreation spots in the Pacific Northwest.
Now there's thousands of little cracker-box houses with California-licensed cars parked in front of them. Selling for over $300 grand!! Of course, all of them on a postage-stamp size property parcel.
Crime's up. Especially in the schools here (alcohol and substance abuse). Traffic is becomming a nightmare. Parents are now not allowed to spank their kids; the granola invaders are getting laws passes about our dogs and guns as fast as they can lobby the politicians. Our river is now a no-alcohol zone; before it was so much fun to party on the Dechutes!! Every time I turn around there's some sort of new 'initiative' trying to be passed to aid the unemployed and increase the minimum wage. I own a business (a tanning salon...) with my wife and it's virtually impossible to find decent help that will occasionally show up on time and not under the influence. My gawd...they even asked for a tax increase, something the locals, thank goodness, squashed before it got too far.
I'm praying for an extreme winter with snow and many sub-zero days. Last time that happened the amount of 'for sale' signs on new property was very refreshing.... [/B]
Same for AZ. as well. he cookie cutter houses on tiny lots thanks to the developers that came into town. :(
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Montana has been poisoned by Kalifornia developers beginning in the late 70's. They tried invading Washington but the rain drove half of them back south. (thankfully) I used to have a bumper sticker that said "We don't give a DAMN how they do it in California".
I am dead serious when I can tell if someone was born and raised in Southern California within the first 2 minutes of a conversation. (young ones anyway...)
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On this coast, the New York developers buy up coastal property....then the tax rate (since this is tax-hike-paradise) goes skyward. So those fishermen/lobsterman find that their cute, coastal home is sitting on very, very valuable property and cant afford the taxes.
Thankfully the harsh winters send em home most of the year. But you can always tell when the beautiful people are "back". Last year, they tried to push for a "No construction from May to Sept" request....because gawsh, ordinary people building was just awful on their pretty ears. Needless to say, the local City Council shot that down.
So while we dont have your mass exodus, we do have the "utopians" from the city crawling here, telling us heavens how to live.
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Aw guys....the Californians are just moving to the wilderness to guard it from the evil loggers, hunters, and developers.
"This forest is really gnarly dude! Let's build some condos and an artificial beach and stay forever!"
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me thinks your ire is more jealousy than anything else.
(http://www.plaquesandpatches.com/graphics/seals/state_seals/california.jpg)
(http://www.library.ca.gov/history/symbols/bearflag.jpg)
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
me thinks your ire is more jealousy than anything else.
(http://www.library.ca.gov/history/symbols/bearflag.jpg)
ack-ack
Why do I not find it surprising at all to see the California state flag has what appears to be a communist red star and a russian bear?
:D
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Originally posted by E25280
Why do I not find it surprising at all to see the California state flag has what appears to be a communist red star and a russian bear?
:D
We are slowly taking over; one state at a time. Pay back for destroying USSR goverment with likes of drunken guy with bird **** on forehead. :p
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Soon we will all be Californicated.
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I know that houses that 20 years ago commonly sold here for 30K to 40K are now around 150K to 175K Friggin' robbery!
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
I know that houses that 20 years ago commonly sold here for 30K to 40K are now around 150K to 175K Friggin' robbery!
Even the most mediocre houses in San Francisco now costs above $500,000.
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So you blame the Californians for capitalism? That's a new one! *cough* whiners *cough*
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Originally posted by Viking
So you blame the Californians for capitalism? That's a new one! *cough* whiners *cough*
Stupid liberal laws are not capitalism. They claim (their fearless leaders) that its "progressive" but flushing a **** down the toilet is also progressive.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Stupid liberal laws are not capitalism. They claim (their fearless leaders) that its "progressive" but flushing a **** down the toilet is also progressive.
This thread was started with the whining about how Californians are moving and raising housing prices. Clearly that is a direct effect of capitalism and not some liberal law. I just found the fact that anti-socialists are whining about capitalism delightfully ironic.
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kalifornia has great weather and is a large state.
People want to be here because of that and it has such a good economy. We will put up with a lot to have good weather and make lots of money.
As we get older and aquire wealth here, we get enough that we don't need to live in the sprawl. Don't need to be near the money. Plenty of young people waiting to take our place sooooo....
Our homes that no longer appeal to us are sold to young people who want to be near the action for insane high money.
There are very rural areas in kalifornia still. The weather is not as good and there is no pulsing money machine nearby.
It is simple evolution.. I lived in los angles as a kid and it was orange orchards and no sidewalks... when it got crowded we moved to the bay area where the weather was not quite as good but it was full of str4awberry fields... now I am in northern kalifornia which was all flat ranch and farm land but is now becoming crowded... I will move again... maybe one more year. Someone will pay 6 or 7 hundred thou for my home.. maybe more.
I won't move to a track home in oregon or arizona... I will have a chunk of cash tho so I will get property where I can shoot off the back porch and the weather is not much worse than here and I can build a shop. The politics won't matter to me.
That is how it works and why it works.
lazs
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Laz,
Where would you like to move to? I'm also looking to get out of this state (although I don't have so much wealth).
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a california couple moved here and bought a home three away from ours. they paid top dollar for the home, the guy expressing what a great value it was. a month or so later they bought a second home in the community for his parents or in laws, I forget which. he says he liked south florida for the weather, lack of congestion and reasonable real estate values. I can't imagine what southern california must be like now if miami is considered uncongested and reasonably priced.
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blame the mexico
Lazs..the saloon is almost complete..Im in dire need of cowboy guns...got any wheel guns to sell? The cost of the colt peacemakers or replicas is 1k?!!!!! ouchhh
(http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/2794/cimg4997gm8.jpg)
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Don't Californicate Montana, was a bumper sticker I saw all over the place when I did a job up in Libby several years back, and I can't agree more.
The only problem is I live in Northern California. The rest of you think you have problems? NorCal is historicaly pretty conservative, mostly ranchers, farmers, and loggers. Well we use to have loggers but the tree huggers pretty much killed that. The people from the bay area, and LALA land control the state politics because they have the numbers. The LA area alone has more voters than all of NorCal combined. Oh and just a FYI as far as I'm concerned Northern California starts at Red Bluff, and ends at the Oregan border.
We have the same problem as those in NV, OR, or MT, the people from SoCal sell there cracker box house for 500k move up here buy a mansion bank the rest, then complain that it's not like SF, or LA. (which I reply thank gawd).
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SIK1....why don't you northern Californians secede? Then you could apply for admission to the Union as the Northern Republic of California. I doubt those in Lala land would have the sand to try to force you to stay. :D
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I sure wouldn't mind two more republican senators.
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And a few Republican House members.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Soon we will all be Californicated.
When they pry my guns from my cold, dead fingers.
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Blame Canada!
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Originally posted by Shuckins
And a few Republican House members.
Actually, the number of house members doesn't change. It's set at 435. And if those areas have republican house members to start with, nothing will change, nor if it is the other way around as well.
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laser....You're right......I was thinking about how a new state is guaranteed at least one House member by Article I of the Constitution, regardless of the size of its population.
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laser...On the other hand, the newly elected state legislature with a Republican majority could jerrymand the districts in order to marginalize any surfer-dude/valley girl immigrant populations.
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well... there are places in northern kalifornia that I could live out my life without being too bothered by the liberal south.
Russian.. that is the point... I could move a little north or I could move to the drier parts of oregon or somewhere in the cottonwood area of arizona or... places in new mexico or texas that would all be good.
At my age I only need to hide for about 20 more years from the liberals who would save me from myself.
That is pretty easy to do... the young ones are scared to death to go anywhere they can't make 80k a year and the older ones are scared of bugs and guns...
They won't bother me till the place gets yuppified. It either has to be hippy touristy or some economic boom before they will leave the paved roads and high end shopping.
lazs
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I sure wouldn't mind two more republican senators.
Funny thing is that Northern California if far more liberal than Central or Southern California. The Republican bastion in California is squarely in Southern California.
So you'd probably end up with 2 liberal Democratic senators from N.Cal if the state ever broke up into 3 parts.
ack-ack
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Dear Haters
You can say what you want about California, but not everyone is a tree huggin trustfund hippy moron. I live at the base of the Sierra Nevadas in a small foothill town and I like it here. I'm glad alot of people are moving out of Cali and ruining your lives, that means my plan is working. Most of the world Hates the U.S.A. and 49 of those states hate California....so I live in the most hated place on the planet! I however don't give a flying ****, I'm still gonna play my music ride my snowboard and live my life however I want to. I could do that in alot of places, but I was born in California and I haven't left...don't really want to. You can hate me for living here, but I'd rather you just hate me for being me. It's "hip" to hate California, but I like where I live. I will not be moving to your neighborhood to corrupt your youth, steal your car, and drive up housing costs. If you have good mountains though (oregan, colorado, washington, utah) When I visit Yooze better be nice!!!!!! You are really good at reading well done.
your friend
evil Califonia resident# 8,987,324
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Occasionally, a Californian moves to Washington state and we teach them how sentence structures work. We teach them to spell too. It's a shame that the California School system is a failure. :)
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Sorry my proof reader is out looking for property in the Mt. Baker area.
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Those of you posting negatively about california are most likely bitter because....
They youth of all your rural PODUNK towns get bored with all the NOTHINGNESS that occures there. So they leave, & they take their youth & beauty with them to experience the excitement & opportunity California has to offer. We accept your youth, and their outdated styles, we educate them on what is and isn't cool.
I guess I'd be miffed too to if all the local young babes moved off to another state, and a bunch of old bags moved in to take their place......:aok
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Funny thing is that Northern California if far more liberal than Central or Southern California. The Republican bastion in California is squarely in Southern California.
So you'd probably end up with 2 liberal Democratic senators from N.Cal if the state ever broke up into 3 parts.
ack-ack
Didn't know that one.
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Originally posted by Atoon
Those of you posting negatively about california are most likely bitter because....
They youth of all your rural PODUNK towns get bored with all the NOTHINGNESS that occures there. So they leave, & they take their youth & beauty with them to experience the excitement & opportunity California has to offer. We accept your youth, and their outdated styles, we educate them on what is and isn't cool.
I guess I'd be miffed too to if all the local young babes moved off to another state, and a bunch of old bags moved in to take their place......:aok
Actually, only the prostitutes with STD's and drug-abusing ho's move to California. ;) Good luck with that! :D
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Nonhackers who couldn't make it in Cali fleeing to red states? Good riddance!
PS, you're welcome (http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balrpt02.htm), freeloaders.
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there are plenty of red areas in northern kalifornia. It makes it bearable.
The more you get away from apartments the more you detest blue people and their meddling.. I want to shoot off my back porch not be told by a socialist wanna be commitee what kind of landscaping is acceptable to em.
Sorry for whatever terrible thing happened to you namvet that made you such a liberal weinie.
We all spend the first 17 years or so of our lives trying to get out of the house and away from mom and then... some of us vote for women democrats to run our lives again... insane.
lazs
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Buhbye
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Be interesting when the big one sends SoCal off into the Pacific, huh?
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Actually, the SE USA is probably going to fall off the map sooner then california. The san andreas fault is one of the most active, but not the most powerful. There's a fault line running through kentucky that is just going to rip open one day and swallow all of the south. We don't know when.
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Originally posted by Rino
Be interesting when the big one sends SoCal off into the Pacific, huh?
Well, see in the event of the "Big One" there will not be any parts of the state falling into the ocean as the San Andreas Fault is a left strike slip fault. At worst in the event of the Big One, San Diego will move a up a few feet to the North.
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Actually, only the prostitutes with STD's and drug-abusing ho's move to California. ;) Good luck with that! :D
Considering your statement is complete rubbish, I will have no problem, with it & no luck will be needed.