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Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: humble on March 29, 2007, 02:06:59 PM
Having fooled around a bit with the M-8 I think the M-18 would be a logical addition. It's got a 76mm gun so it wouldnt be a "perk ride" {or shouldnt be}. It could travel at 75 mph and shoot at 45mph. would be a logical anti spawn weapon since it could move fast enough to defend spawn from Vbases....
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: frank3 on March 29, 2007, 02:38:11 PM
I think that's an excellent idea, it would be something like the Tiger compared with the Panzer.
Some 2507 were build, not a bad figure at all :aok

Oh btw, the M-18 would do 115 km/h during test trails (69mph) but they restricted it to a 52mph
Still, a heck of a fast ride for 76mm of cannon!
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: wklink on March 29, 2007, 03:16:43 PM
If not the M18 then at least an M-10.
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Ball on March 29, 2007, 03:36:02 PM
what about a Puma? May be a bit too similar to an M-8...

M-8 vs Puma would be a blast tho :)

Puma SdKfz 234/2

(http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/fotky/obrnenavozidla/234/002.jpg)
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: stephen on March 29, 2007, 03:44:30 PM
Thats a solid idea for a vehicle addition, whats the gun type on that 8 wheeld german job?
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Hornet33 on March 29, 2007, 04:42:04 PM
There were 4 different versions of the Puma that were built. All 4 had a different gun. Here are the numbers.

SdKfz. 234/1 - 20mm KwK 38 L/55          
220 (approx.) built between
SdKfz. 234/2 - 50mm KwK 39/1 L/60        
101 built between
SdKfz. 234/3 - 75mm KwK 37 L/24    
88 built between June and December 1944
SdKfz. 234/4 - 75mm PAK 40 L/48    
89 built between December 1944 and March 1945
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Wes14 on March 29, 2007, 04:46:42 PM
it it goes 60sum mph cant we do the circle strafe like people do to tigers in M8's:D
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: stephen on March 29, 2007, 04:48:19 PM
SdKfz. 234/2 - 50mm KwK 39/1 L/60

SdKfz. 234/3 - 75mm KwK 37 L/24

seems that either one would be an awsome addition to the vehicle arena
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: frank3 on March 29, 2007, 05:19:34 PM
You hijackers...:D

This was about the M-18 ;)
Title: M18/M10
Post by: RAPIER on March 29, 2007, 08:35:37 PM
Either one would be a great addition to the game.  There were plenty of then in the field, and they made quite a contribution to the war effort.
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: humble on March 29, 2007, 08:36:33 PM
Puma would be a good alternative based on how you build out the set. you could also do a russian 57mm in an M-3 chassis. Right now the only vehicle you can deploy to a spwan is an M-8 (speed and firepower). Any of the above would combine some ability as a tiger killer and be effective vs "normal" tanks. Basically your creating a mobile AT gun capability that can be reasonably deployed. Any combination of M-8 type speed and a "good" gun would do just fine....
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: frank3 on March 30, 2007, 10:49:39 AM
..resulting in completely abandoning the M-8 :D

They only advantage the M-8 will have, is abit more speed (60mph instead of about 50mph)
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: stephen on April 27, 2007, 04:30:08 PM
The M-18 sounds like a really good idea to, im gonna look it up
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Cypher on April 28, 2007, 09:58:07 AM
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Originally posted by Ball
what about a Puma? May be a bit too similar to an M-8...

M-8 vs Puma would be a blast tho :)

Puma SdKfz 234/2

(http://www.panzernet.net/panzernet/fotky/obrnenavozidla/234/002.jpg)


Puma? looks more like a warthog to me. that's what it should have been called.
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: kennyhayes on April 28, 2007, 10:06:27 AM
yeah than maybe we could have a m1 abhrams non perked
{in a sarcastic voice}
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Wes14 on April 28, 2007, 11:43:09 AM
Quote
Originally posted by kennyhayes
yeah than maybe we could have a m1 abhrams non perked
{in a sarcastic voice}



m1 abhrams?new U.S tank?:rolleyes:
just playing (psst its M1Abrams):noid
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: NitroFish on April 30, 2007, 08:59:26 AM
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tank-destroyers/m18/m18_04.jpg)

More M-18 (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/tank-destroyers/m18.asp) info


SdKfz. 234/3 - 75mm KwK 37 L/24
Short barrel 75mm, not an antitank gun.
Title: Re: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Willfly on April 30, 2007, 03:58:42 PM
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Originally posted by humble
Having fooled around a bit with the M-8 I think the M-18 would be a logical addition. It's got a 76mm gun so it wouldnt be a "perk ride" {or shouldnt be}. It could travel at 75 mph and shoot at 45mph. would be a logical anti spawn weapon since it could move fast enough to defend spawn from Vbases....


I like the idea, but you got the part about the speed wrong, it travels right around 75 KPH  not MPH. Still a pretty good idea based on my research about it. :aok
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Iron_Cross on April 30, 2007, 06:03:20 PM
As it stands the M-8 can go after lightly armored targets; M-16s, M-3s, LVTs, and  other M-8s.  It can damage Panzers, and Shermans, with difficulty, and a well placed shot will kill them.  However it can not damage Tigers and T-34s.  That little 37mm popgun can not penetrate the thick armor of the Tiger, or  is deflected by the sloping armor of the T-34.  IMHO the M-8 trades firepower for speed,  wich makes it a balanced ride.  

Look at how the vehicles are balanced speed/firepower wise.  You will see that the fast movers are the most lightly armed.  Hitech has ballanced vehicles to the point where you have to choose: Do I want to get there quick, or do I want to kill everything that gets in my sights.

If you introduce something like the M-18 that has speed and enough firepower to take on the "BIG" boys, you will fundamentally change the game ballance.  I don't think Hitech will go for that.
Title: Re: Re: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: frank3 on May 01, 2007, 04:58:15 AM
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Originally posted by Willfly
I like the idea, but you got the part about the speed wrong, it travels right around 75 KPH  not MPH. Still a pretty good idea based on my research about it. :aok


Well, my source says that it WAS in fact mph, and not kph!
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: theNewB on May 01, 2007, 09:52:38 AM
one word Hetzer :)

BTW M18  max speed was 88.5km/h aka 55MPH so close but not that close and thats max ROAD speed 99% of what we do in aces high is offroad so cut speed in half and thats what it will go for AH
Title: "shoot & scoot TD"........
Post by: Rino on May 01, 2007, 09:22:35 PM
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Originally posted by theNewB
one word Hetzer :)

BTW M18  max speed was 88.5km/h aka 55MPH so close but not that close and thats max ROAD speed 99% of what we do in aces high is offroad so cut speed in half and thats what it will go for AH


     So the Tiger's top speed was about 50 mph on road?  wow!