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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pyro on March 30, 2007, 10:22:25 AM
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Round 2 voting has started and will continue to Monday morning. The bottom four from Round 1 were Brewster Buffalo, G.55, Japanese fighter, and Russian bomber.
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Tough break Finns:(
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bummer finns, gianlupo, JpS, Tu2 :(
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No Ki-44 or J2M, this is unfortunate.
On the plus side however no G.55 either :D
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G.55
Darn..... I hate being right all the time. I predicted 3 out of 4 of the cut.
Japanese fighter got axe, where I guessed Yak3.
G.55 had second highest poll count in boards, lost in popular vote.
How does a mid-war plane with 3 X 20mm X 200-250rpg, 2 X 12.7mm X 300 rpg, a speed of 385 mph at 22,965.88 feet, a 41,666 ft service ceiling, that could out fly most 109's and 190's get cut? No one knew what it was.
P-39
A-26
me-410
He-111
B-25
Yak3
Next two cut will probably come from: A-26, P-39, or Yak-3. Name recognition. They've heard of He-111, B-25, and with a number like 410 - it has to be good.
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Looks like my personal top four were exactly the bottom four of the majority ;)
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My guess is that it will go down like this:
2nd round, P39, B25 and A26 make it through.
3rd round, P39 definitely and either B25 or A26 make it through. I'm leaning towards the B-25, it's the more sentimental choice.
Final round... too close to call. Hanging chads and recounts are inevitable.
I think the lesson that might be taken away from this is: If you want an obscure plane to win, don't put it up against popular planes...
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Originally posted by tedrbr
G.55 had second highest poll count in boards, lost in popular vote.
I guess that just goes to show how the BBS is truly a very vocal minority, <---- the last word here being the most important one.
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:( :( :( :( :( :( :(
(unrolls the "welcome" mat for another american plane)
I'll be on the He-111 bandwagon until it goes down.
lwcody
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I think the He111 will probably disappear next round. Bomber guys will split between the two US planes. Of the fighters, the Yak's looking vulnerable.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I think the lesson that might be taken away from this is: If you want an obscure plane to win, don't put it up against popular planes...
No so much popular planes, but more like general population name recognition. He-111, B-25, Yak-3, and maybe the P-39 will make final four. When G.55 failed first cut, I started to doubt P-39. Will side doors on the Airacobra kill it?
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theres only one fighter plane on that list and its a yak3!
P39 won't cut it against most other rides.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
When G.55 failed first cut, I started to doubt P-39. Will side doors on the Airacobra kill it?
Im pretty sure most people voting don't even know about such details.
B-25 will win, because people want to do the Doolittle Raid they have seen on TV. Yes, I know we wont get carrier bases 25s, but they don't, and they refuse to belive... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Will side doors on the Airacobra kill it?
Nah. With experience from flying P-39's in other sims i know there's nothing more cool then getting out of the plane and slamming the door close after a good sortie. :lol
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i voted A26 but figured the G.55 would win this thing
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Originally posted by Lusche
Im pretty sure most people voting don't even know about such details.
B-25 will win, because people want to do the Doolittle Raid they have seen on TV. Yes, I know we wont get carrier bases 25s, but they don't, and they refuse to belive... :rolleyes:
I know there are a lot of people right now bagging on the B25, but IMHO it could be a very useful and fun plane, not only in the MA, but since it was widely used in WWII, in the other squad stuff and scenarios... Depending on the configurations offered by the game, could be pretty awesome.
B25 was used by Russia, US, UK(and Polish), RAAF(and Netherlands in exile), RCAF, China, France.
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Darn..... I hate being right all the time. I predicted 3 out of 4 of the cut.
Since when does 75% equal right all the time?
:lol :aok
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Yes!
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Originally posted by JAWS2003
Nah. With experience from flying P-39's in other sims i know there's nothing more cool then getting out of the plane and slamming the door close after a good sortie. :lol
:rofl :rofl
Or rolling the side window down and hanging your elbow out when taxiing back in.
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Originally posted by Lusche
B-25 will win, because people want to do the Doolittle Raid they have seen on TV. Yes, I know we wont get carrier bases 25s, but they don't, and they refuse to belive... :rolleyes:
Truf.
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Since when does 75% equal right all the time?
Well, from a political point of view, 51% seems to be a "Clear Mandate" and "Overwhelming Majority"
Geez, 75% is pretty much Perfect against those numbers :D
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Since when does 75% equal right all the time?
:lol :aok
I was hedging back and forth between the Yak-3 or Japanese planes getting cut. What I fear I was *right* about more than anything is that the majority of players are voting for whatever plane name they recognize from a movie or book, rather than based on any true knowledge about the different planes on the list themselves.
B-25 = Doolittle Raids.
He-111 = Battle of Britain
Guessing those two had the highest vote count in the game poll, but both of those planes showed middle numbers in the informal forum poll. But, we aren't going to see those numbers.
Starting to think the P-39 may not even make final 4.
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Originally posted by ROC
Well, from a political point of view, 51% seems to be a "Clear Mandate" and "Overwhelming Majority"
Geez, 75% is pretty much Perfect against those numbers :D
Ugh, let's not even go there. ;)
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Me 410 ... German ... high number = Late war überness in most people's mind. Perhaps they even think it's a jet. Who among the pleebs knows what a P-39 or Yak-3 is? It sure aint' no P-47 Mustang!
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I know there are a lot of people right now bagging on the B25, but IMHO it could be a very useful and fun plane,
I don't have anything against it, I would surely fly it. But some people think we have some gaping holes in our planeset. Another american bomber will not fill the biggest one ;)
(This is also the reason why I am against the addition of the He111. If another german bomber is to be added at all, it' s a mid/late war one, which doesn' t only fits for scenarios but also has a better chance to survive in the MA )
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Originally posted by scottydawg
I know there are a lot of people right now bagging on the B25, but IMHO it could be a very useful and fun plane, not only in the MA
I don't know what to do, now.... voting for a new furballer? Or having more targets??? I need fresh meat!
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Originally posted by tedrbr
B-25 = Doolittle Raids.
He-111 = Battle of Britain
i can see this coming down to those two planes
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Originally posted by whiteman
i can see this coming down to those two planes
Yeah... a final vote for 2 planes that'll never leave the hangar. :(
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Originally posted by scottydawg
:rofl :rofl
Or rolling the side window down and hanging your elbow out when taxiing back in.
What about the fuzzy dice? Does it come with fuzzy dice?
Too bad its not a Navy bird...could have played "little blue coupe" really loud....
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Originally posted by Lusche
I don't have anything against it, I would surely fly it. But some people think we have some gaping holes in our planeset. Another american bomber will not fill the biggest one ;)
(This is also the reason why I am against the addition of the He111. If another german bomber is to be added at all, it' s a mid/late war one, which doesn' t only fits for scenarios but also has a better chance to survive in the MA )
What did you have in mind? the HE-177? JU-290 or FW-200?
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Originally posted by Simaril
What about the fuzzy dice? Does it come with fuzzy dice?
Too bad its not a Navy bird...could have played "little blue coupe" really loud....
I think that's "Little Duce Coupe"
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Originally posted by Simaril
What about the fuzzy dice? Does it come with fuzzy dice?
Too bad its not a Navy bird...could have played "little blue coupe" really loud....
Do you mean little deuce coupe?
I think the P-39 looks ridiculous. I can imagine the designers sitting around a table trying to figure out how to do the canopy and one guy saying "Well, we got about a thousand of these here '38 Ford doors, maybe we could use them?"
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Originally posted by scottydawg
What did you have in mind? the HE-177? JU-290 or FW-200?
Do 217 comes first to my mind. Then He 177 or Ju 188.
Ju 290 and Fw 200 were no "real" bombers, basically naval recon planes with added anti-shipping capability.
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The 25 is going to win it if some of the most compelling reasons for a new plane all got cut in the first round.
<----- not a happy camper.
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B-25's are the featured picture of the day on Wikipedia. Must be a conspiracy. :noid
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Well, so much for the Pe-2/Tu-2.
Now I'll back the Me410.
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I think if nothing else we can now see just how representative of the the "average" AH player this board is.
I point that HT & Pyro can justifiably quote when posters here dare tell them what would be popular or not.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
B-25 = Doolittle Raids.
He-111 = Battle of Britain
Originally posted by whiteman
i can see this coming down to those two planes
Originally posted by Fianna
Yeah... a final vote for 2 planes that'll never leave the hangar. :(
Oddball: Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don't you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don't you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?
Moriarty: Crap!
(http://home.earthlink.net/~tedrbr/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1859951020a.jpg)
Yep. This is looking bad.
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Originally posted by Tilt
I think if nothing else we can now see just how representative of the the "average" AH player this board is.
I point that HT & Pyro can justifiably quote when posters here dare tell them what would be popular or not.
I'd point out that some of us have made very accurate predictions while voting for other things.
Just because we back something doesn't mean we don't recognize what is actually popular.
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:(
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Pyro, are you going to release the actual vote totals each round?
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Originally posted by Karash
Pyro, are you going to release the actual vote totals each round?
He said he wasn't because he didn't want to skew the results for the subsequent rounds.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Just because we back something doesn't mean we don't recognize what is actually popular.
The royal "we"?
There were of course many views expressed so some will be "right".....
Its clear top me however that some BB Lobbies failed to have any meaningfull effect on the view of the general player populace in this case.
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Originally posted by Karnak
Well, so much for the Pe-2/Tu-2.
Now I'll back the Me410.
I agree. I'm fond of the P-39...would make a very nice addition to the USAAF...but we have a plethora of US airframes....
Unless they provide us with different variants, I don't really see how they could pick which model of B-25 to give us...no matter what they pick most of the B-25 fans are sure to cry havoc.
He-111 would be great...but it's hard to ask for an aircraft that will probably see little use outside of scenarios and the AvA.
So I'd like to see the Me-410... I mean...omg haz 2 enginez!!!11oneeleven :D
Barring that...P-39. :aok
For a bomber, I'd rather see more variants of the models we already have...perhaps perk the later better protected models, and introduce new early war variants perk free.
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G 55 Italians need something more!
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Originally posted by tedrbr
of 4 of the cut.
Japanese fighter got axe, where I guessed Yak3.
G.55 had second highest poll count in boards, lost in popular vote.
How does a mid-war plane with 3 X 20mm X 200-250rpg, 2 X 12.7mm X 300 rpg, a speed of 385 mph at 22,965.88 feet, a 41,666 ft service ceiling, that could out fly most 109's and 190's get cut? No one knew what it was.
Being a little pretentious with your assumptions there. I really don't think it's a case of the player base being uninformed. The player base is more plane savvy than you give them credit for. Just because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to vote doesn't mean that ignorance won the day.
Have you ever thought that maybe players just didn't see a need for those planes in the MA and felt that some of the other choices would be a better fit in the planeset for various reasons?
ack-ack
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Originally posted by Lusche
I don't have anything against it, I would surely fly it. But some people think we have some gaping holes in our planeset. Another american bomber will not fill the biggest one ;)
(This is also the reason why I am against the addition of the He111. If another german bomber is to be added at all, it' s a mid/late war one, which doesn' t only fits for scenarios but also has a better chance to survive in the MA )
I personally wish that the He177 was on the list.
German's need a decent heavy bomber.
David
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Originally posted by 96Delta
German's need a decent heavy bomber.
David
That's what Hitler said too...
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Originally posted by Lusche
B-25 will win, because people want to do the Doolittle Raid they have seen on TV. Yes, I know we wont get carrier bases 25s, but they don't, and they refuse to belive... :rolleyes:
A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.
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Originally posted by Lusche
Looks like my personal top four were exactly the bottom four of the majority ;)
Same
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Being a little pretentious with your assumptions there. I really don't think it's a case of the player base being uninformed. The player base is more plane savvy than you give them credit for. Just because they didn't vote the way you wanted them to vote doesn't mean that ignorance won the day.
Have you ever thought that maybe players just didn't see a need for those planes in the MA and felt that some of the other choices would be a better fit in the planeset for various reasons?
ack-ack
i'm gunna go with there are quit a few that have no idea what is what. My brother couldn't remember the difference between the A26 and B25 and a bunch of the guys he flys with had no idea there was a vote and chose the Buffalo Brewster cause it sounded cool.
Also with as many younger players that i've come across in the last couple weeks i'd say their more than you think that don't know much about the aircraft.
i personally have never even seen or heard of the Me410, Brewster or G.55 before the list was presented
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Silly people.
It's not about plane sets, performance, or need. None of those will have any impact whatsoever on the final outcome. You're analyzing the wrong data sets.
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I'm not really interested in giving grades or assumptions how the remainder of vote perhaps might or should go... seems rather pointless when you consider the blaablaa and booboo that's been flying around these boards past few days.
What I really would like to know is the total number of given votes in round #1. Is there any possibility you could share that information with us Pyro? I don't think this would mess up or effect the initial voting since there is no winner or loser mentioned, its just mass.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
(http://home.earthlink.net/~tedrbr/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/1859951020a.jpg)
hey that sherman has a 50 on it, hey pyro look a picture of a sherman with a 50, see, see.
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Originally posted by Oleg
A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.
Yup I reckon the first line in its (the Yak3's) Winipedia entry may have saved it a round
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Originally posted by Oleg
A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.
But, do those folks in the arenas that are making the votes, and don't follow the forums, or research the planes on the list, even know what an A-26 is?
If A-26 makes it, it will be due to a lot more old AW players around, and confusion over thinking the A-26 is one of the gun-heavy versions of the B-25.
By forum polls, you'd think the P-39 was a lock, but I doubt it has the name recognition to be an easy win. He-410's high designation number may help it..... after all 410 is much larger number than 262, 163, 190, 109, 234, and so forth. By the same token, Yak 3 may see a cut because 3 is so much smaller a number than 9.
Final four will have He 111 and B-25 in it though. Movies. Books. Name recognition.
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Originally posted by john9001
hey that sherman has a 50 on it, hey pyro look a picture of a sherman with a 50, see, see.
The question wasn't whether or not the standard Sherman had a mounted .50 caliber, the question was did the Firefly varient have the mounted .50 or .30 caliber machine gun.
ack-ack
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[quoteOriginally posted by john9001
hey that sherman has a 50 on it, hey pyro look a picture of a sherman with a 50, see, see.[/quote]
psst, that's a Movie, they fake things. I know, I know, but superman doesn't exist either. There, I said it.
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Originally posted by WldThing
G 55 Italians need something more!
(http://www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/sprachlos/speechless-smiley-034.gif)
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Originally posted by WldThing
G 55 Italians need something more!
And so do the americans it seems...
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Originally posted by Oleg
A-26 will beat B-25 because ppl always want late war uberplanes, both in bombers and fighters categories. That is why Yak-3 didnt quit yet, imho.
Umm...not always. ;)
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Originally posted by tedrbr
G.55 had second highest poll count in boards, lost in popular vote.
How does a mid-war plane with 3 X 20mm X 200-250rpg, 2 X 12.7mm X 300 rpg, a speed of 385 mph at 22,965.88 feet, a 41,666 ft service ceiling, that could out fly most 109's and 190's get cut?
It got cut because of the people like you who voted for something else.
See how that works? :rolleyes:
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IMHO The b25 can't and shouldn't win for the same reason the a26 is unlikely to win... namely, we are up to our necks in twin engine medium attack/ bombers... who cares? why do we really need another one?
The HE111 was the only interesting bomber presented, and while I would like to see it, I know it will not make the cut.
I think the Yak would be an interesting addition, I think the 39 needs to packs its bags, because it has no place in the main.
The G55 didn't make it for the same reason you'll never see a french plane... Nobody likes a quitter. Italy dropped like a sack, and was never much of a story in the airwar (with the exception of a few battles)... You can't expect anyone to get behind that, no matter what the plane might have been.
The Buffalo was obsolete 12 months before the first shot was fired, it never had a prayer as a MA machine... I know the fin's love it, but no one else cares.
I like the 410 for personal reasons, I'm not certain its the best choice for the arena, but it is the one my money is on, and based on what I am seeing, I think it will be in the final round.
As an American, I'd like to tell all you U.S. bashers, that we are not so ego-centric that we can't tell when too many U.S. planes are already in the pool. I'm really hoping for the 410, the yak3 or the HE111 (although it'll only get used in events and will be a MA hanger queen).
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Originally posted by Lusche
Im pretty sure most people voting don't even know about such details.
B-25 will win, because people want to do the Doolittle Raid they have seen on TV. Yes, I know we wont get carrier bases 25s, but they don't, and they refuse to belive... :rolleyes:
Oh jesus.... I can just see the Country buffer now....
"wtf!>? Why can't I take my B-25 off the carrier!!??" "Tehy did it in perl harber!"
I'll have to squelch so many people.
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Originally posted by scottydawg
:rofl :rofl
Or rolling the side window down and hanging your elbow out when taxiing back in.
It's easier to ash your ciggie that way! hahaha
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I just have a picture in my head of the HTC staff sick,by the way people are acting and bashing others ideas,wish's and pushing there own opinions and such on others.
"this plane sucks,and here is why"
'this plane also sucks,and here is why"
"this plane is alright,and should be added, because i like it"
Doubt we will see this system in the future.
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Originally posted by Kurt
IMHO The b25 can't and shouldn't win for the same reason the a26 is unlikely to win... namely, we are up to our necks in twin engine medium attack/ bombers... who cares? why do we really need another one?
The HE111 was the only interesting bomber presented, and while I would like to see it, I know it will not make the cut.
Agree 100%
The G55 didn't make it for the same reason you'll never see a french plane... Nobody likes a quitter. Italy dropped like a sack, and was never much of a story in the airwar (with the exception of a few battles)... You can't expect anyone to get behind that, no matter what the plane might have been.
Don't agree 100%. Those statements are incorrect and even offensive.
I like the 410 for personal reasons, I'm not certain its the best choice for the arena, but it is the one my money is on, and based on what I am seeing, I think it will be in the final round.
I'd like to see it, or a Yak 3... and as time goes by, the 410 option is getting more and more sexier.... :)
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Gian,
dont pay attention to that dweeb clown of Kurt. Why clown? Read above. Why dweeb? Take a look at his scores :rofl
BTW, no French fighter and so few italian planes is another demonstration of the lack of a good marketing mind in AH2.
Italian 4^ and 1^ Stormo are near to ZERO paying players from the about 40 they were. WTG.
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Originally posted by gatt
Gian,
dont pay attention to that dweeb clown of Kurt. Why clown? Read above. Why dweeb? Take a look at his scores :rofl
I don't play for scores. In my experience the people who do are the dweebs around here. Go back a few months and then call the guy with a 12% hit ratio a dweeb based on score... If you're going to go look at peoples score pages, at least learn that rank is the least important number.
And I'm taking this month off from AH anyhow, so its no surprise that time is low too.
Anyhow, lets score this based on who can complete his thought without name calling. Oh, looks like you lose.
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Originally posted by Gianlupo
Don't agree 100%. Those statements are incorrect and even offensive.
Not intended to offend Gianlupo. Every country made sacrafices, every countries soldiers fought honorably... I wouldn't expect your opinion of the actions of each country to agree with mine.
Apologies for any error in my understanding of the Italian air war.
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Apologies accepted. :)
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So now the question of the day - When the winning plane is chosen, how long before we get it in the game?
First one that says 2 weeks is a homosexual...:lol
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GO B25!!
(http://www.maritimequest.com/misc_pages/doolittle_raid/04_doolittles_planes.jpg)
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Originally posted by KAntti
...What I really would like to know is the total number of given votes in round #1. Is there any possibility you could share that information with us Pyro? I don't think this would mess up or effect the initial voting since there is no winner or loser mentioned, its just mass.
Never going to happen :( When have they ever said how many subscribers they have??? Though I would like to know how many said "I don't care". :D
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Let's face it folks...ALL these planes should have been added long ago. Think back to how many additions have been made in the last 3 or 4 years. The Jeep, T-34 and the Stuka (oh yeah, and the RV-8). Although nifty in their own way, it's just not enough.
I appreciate the effort made to enhance the graphics and the cockpits, but I'd really rather have a full set of WWII aircraft and tanks. More and different planes and tanks are the one thing that people consistantly ask for on this forum, so much so that "Wish List" has become its own category.
In my humble opinion it would be better to lessen any further effort on TOD and concentrate on the desires of the customer base. I've always had the impression that TOD was a pet project rather than something the customers really wanted anyway.
I've been a confirmed AHII addict now for more than 7 years, but the lack of new aircraft and vehicles is really starting to wear at me, and I'm sure, many of you. It seems to me that the HiTech crew gambles on that addiction, relying on the players coming back no matter what.
My apologies if I have inflamed any anger in my fellow players or HiTech for that matter. I just want some new stuff.
Thanks
68Dragn
68KO
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Originally posted by Movie
GO B25!!
(http://www.maritimequest.com/misc_pages/doolittle_raid/04_doolittles_planes.jpg)
i believe i read somewhere in all this mess that Pyro said::
NO CV BASED B-25 !!!!
if thats the basis for your B-25 vote, you,d better re-think it.
sorry.:(
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<-- Still rootin' for the Yak.:cool:
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Originally posted by 68Dragn
Let's face it folks...ALL these planes should have been added long ago. Think back to how many additions have been made in the last 3 or 4 years. The Jeep, T-34 and the Stuka (oh yeah, and the RV-8). Although nifty in their own way, it's just not enough.
I appreciate the effort made to enhance the graphics and the cockpits, but I'd really rather have a full set of WWII aircraft and tanks. More and different planes and tanks are the one thing that people consistantly ask for on this forum, so much so that "Wish List" has become its own category.
In my humble opinion it would be better to lessen any further effort on TOD and concentrate on the desires of the customer base. I've always had the impression that TOD was a pet project rather than something the customers really wanted anyway.
I've been a confirmed AHII addict now for more than 7 years, but the lack of new aircraft and vehicles is really starting to wear at me, and I'm sure, many of you. It seems to me that the HiTech crew gambles on that addiction, relying on the players coming back no matter what.
My apologies if I have inflamed any anger in my fellow players or HiTech for that matter. I just want some new stuff.
Thanks
68Dragn
68KO
hey dragon, welcome to the forum !
-T
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Originally posted by 68Dragn
Let's face it folks...ALL these planes should have been added long ago. Think back to how many additions have been made in the last 3 or 4 years. The Jeep, T-34 and the Stuka (oh yeah, and the RV-8). Although nifty in their own way, it's just not enough.
68KO
You forgot the relatively recent F4U-1A, P-38J, P-38G, Bf 109G-14, Bf 109K-4 (revised 109G-10) Ki-84, B-24, SpitVIII, SpitXVI and the P-47N.
Also, over the 4 year time period you mentioned, they added many other aircraft, such as the FM-2/F4F-4, Bf 110C, Bf 110G, Me 163, P-40B, P-40E, SpitXIV, A-20G and Boston III. There may be more that I have overlooked.
When the F6F gets its graphics update, it's very possible that the F6F-3 will be added being very slightly different than the F6F-5.
We expect all new terrain graphics to be released with the next update. We know that at least one new vehicle will be added.
Despite the major effort focused on CT and graphic updates, I think HTC has done a commendable job at adding new aircraft and new models of existing base aircraft. Let's face it, they have to manage their resources carefully.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by 1Boner
i believe i read somewhere in all this mess that Pyro said::
NO CV BASED B-25 !!!!
if thats the basis for your B-25 vote, you,d better re-think it.
sorry.:(
The plane can be landed and reset on the CV, Have done it with b17, b26, almost all planes!
I remeber taking Ar234 off cv !
So take off and land the plane on the CV!
DOOLITTLE raids !
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Originally posted by Turbo76
The plane can be landed and reset on the CV, Have done it with b17, b26, almost all planes!
I remeber taking Ar234 off cv !
So take off and land the plane on the CV!
DOOLITTLE raids !
i,ve landed bombers on cvs before too.
you can take off from a cv with a B-17!!!!!
i,d love to see that.
lotsa luck to ya!!
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Originally posted by 1Boner
i believe i read somewhere in all this mess that Pyro said::
NO CV BASED B-25 !!!!
if thats the basis for your B-25 vote, you'd better re-think it.
sorry.:(
Unfortunately, that probably IS the basis for many of the votes in the game interface for the B-25. Ben Affleck wannabes. Folks that saw the movie "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo".
Never mind that it is slower than a B-26, with about half the climb rate, and less ord loadout. And many don't know the differences between the B/C, D, G, H, and J variants. Some EW, some MW, some LW.
Can you see a Doolittle Raid senerio? "You 16 pilots and your gunners will attack Japan on the deck in B-25's and no escorts. Everyone else plays Japanese and will pretend they don't know your are coming." Slaughter. Absolute slaughter.
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Originally posted by Widewing
You forgot the relatively recent F4U-1A, P-38J, P-38G, Bf 109G-14, Bf 109K-4 (revised 109G-10) Ki-84, B-24, SpitVIII, SpitXVI and the P-47N.
Also, over the 4 year time period you mentioned, they added many other aircraft, such as the FM-2/F4F-4, Bf 110C, Bf 110G, Me 163, P-40B, P-40E, SpitXIV, A-20G and Boston III. There may be more that I have overlooked.
When the F6F gets its graphics update, it's very possible that the F6F-3 will be added being very slightly different than the F6F-5.
We expect all new terrain graphics to be released with the next update. We know that at least one new vehicle will be added.
Despite the major effort focused on CT and graphic updates, I think HTC has done a commendable job at adding new aircraft and new models of existing base aircraft. Let's face it, they have to manage their resources carefully.
My regards,
Widewing
Why does HTC take long time to add new planes that should have been added long time ago?
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When it comes down to 1 plane I can't fathom that it will be the B-25. The P-39 will pull out in front on the stretch run.
It's american
It's also Russian
It is a glaring hole in the plane set with 9000+ made
It has a BFG
When the BFG runs out there is still ammo left that can get u a kill
It should compete just fine as most fights are below 10K
My old arse doesn't have to climb into the cockpit, but through a door.
it would be the only plane with a single Hispano if they model the P400
Couldn't do a Guadalcanal scenario without it :)
I wonder exactly how tough it will be ...F6F tough?
Yak-3 will do in a pinch
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Originally posted by Movie
Why does HTC take long time to add new planes that should have been added long time ago?
Well, if they'd added all the other planes first, we wouldn't have the planes we now have, and we'd be in the same situation. How many planes were flown in the war? I'll bet it's a staggering amount, and I don't believe I've seen a game that was released with every single one of them yet.