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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on March 31, 2007, 02:29:40 PM
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Posted this in the general forums by mistake.
Skuzzy please delete the OTHER thread
as for some reason it wont let me do it
Retail question
No, not about getting a new woman
Item in store in this case COMP USA has a "COMP USA" price sticker on that clearly says $19.99.
Bring it to the register. When the lady rings it up it comes up as $32.00.
Now this was a good sticker. Meaning it wasnt mangled or altered in any way shape or form which would indicate to me that it was intentionally placed on the item and not simply peeled off one item and put on another.
What price does the item have to be sold at?
I was always under the impression that by law. You had to sell an item at or under the marked price
And that you could not sell an item for more then the marked price
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I don't reckon that's law, but its good business practice.
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I'd recommend asking to see a manager about it if it really bothered you. When I worked retail we just got berated for not changing the price stickers fast enough, typically they would get the marked price though and we'd get yelled at.
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What Nirvana said.
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don't buy it.
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In my current retail college job, the owner is notorious for changing prices without notifying the employees or the manager at all. So if I quote someone 39.99 and it rings up 44.99, I change the price to 39.99.
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USUALLY the marked price is what it should sell for. I made a stink about an X52 stick at best buy that was marked cheaper then it actually was (still tagged with sale price, sale ended day before). After a lot of hassle and fuss I got it for the sale price.
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I didnt buy it.
Well actually my 10 year old daughter didnt buy it
she had found a game she wanted that was priced within the money she had ($20)
the store...well ALOT of CompUSA's stores are closing so they are offering 15-40% off. In this case it was 15% for the game
I was just standing by watching to make sure she remembered to get her change and not just hand over the 20 and walk away.
the lady rung it up and my daughter looked over to me telling me teary eyed saying they told her she didnt have enough.
Thats when I walked over and saw the charge of $32 on the register and argued the point with the casheir.
Then the manager.
Well you all have seen me argue here. Add the offence I was taking that I felt they were ripping off my daughter into the equasion and you can imagine how well that went LOL
I can become quite testy where my daugher is concerned.
BTW, check your local COMP USA's like I said. a bunch of em are going out of business and I saw Hard Drives and mother boards marked as low as 30% off
and joysticks at 15% off
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I was under the impression that this fell in the "False Advertisement" category. They cannot tell you something costs X and then sell it for X+Y.
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And you wonder why CompUSA is closing.
I did get a Thrustmaster Top Gun Pro 2 joystick there the other night. The cashier's name was Princess (I kid you not) and was very friendly. That other store screwed the pooch, Dred.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
And you wonder why CompUSA is closing.
I did get a Thrustmaster Top Gun Pro 2 joystick there the other night. The cashier's name was Princess (I kid you not) and was very friendly. That other store screwed the pooch, Dred.
Sounds like a topless dancer's name. I hope she wasnt the one that hit you that one night and trying to be friendly to make things better
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No, the one that wrecked her sugar daddy's car into mine was drunk. This one was clearly sober.
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I think the closest CompUSA store is about 70 miles from here. Only thing close enough other then a private PC store is a Staples which is 21 miles away.
Meatwad is too poor right now for any better upgrades anyway. I could use a larger HDD but I guess 24 GB plus 8 GB secondary is good enough (Their both pretty much filled up)
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Originally posted by Meatwad
I think the closest CompUSA store is about 70 miles from here. Only thing close enough other then a private PC store is a Staples which is 21 miles away.
Meatwad is too poor right now for any better upgrades anyway. I could use a larger HDD but I guess 24 GB plus 8 GB secondary is good enough (Their both pretty much filled up)
Get rid of all that porn and you'll be ok!! :aok
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I was under the impression that this fell in the "False Advertisement" category. They cannot tell you something costs X and then sell it for X+Y.
HA! I was right!
Not only am I right but it is punishable by fine.
Under the stautes of both the NJ weights and Measures act
unconscionable commercial practices, false promises and/or misrepresentations
charging consumers prices that exceed the price posted at the point of display;
Seems the state of NJ brought similar charges against Rite Aid in 2006
"The State's complaint also alleges that the defendants violated the Weights and Measures Act due to improper price scanning by at least 76 store locations."
As well as being in violation of NJ statutes under the "Consumer fraud act"
Namely statutes
56:8-2
56:8-2.2.
56:8-2.5.
56:8-2.6.
(Anyone know how to C&P from a PDF file?)
As Im sure a few others I havent found yet
Think I'll head back there tomorrow with printouts in hand directly from the NJ State Attorny General site just to make my point.
They pissed off the wrong O'clubber LOL
I have this real bad habit of sinking my teeth into something then not letting go
""Injun'll chase a thing till he think he's chased it enough, then quits. Same way when he runs. Seems like he never learns there's such a thing as a critter'll just keep comin' on."
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Get rid of all that porn and you'll be ok!! :aok
NOOOO!!!
Porn make meatwad happy, especially Anime type :D
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Originally posted by Meatwad
NOOOO!!!
Porn make meatwad happy, especially Anime type :D
I always wondered what type of person would pound it to a cartoon.
Obviously I should have known already LMAO
Bet you probably got your start with Josie and the *****cats :p
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I always wondered what type of person would pound it to a cartoon.
Obviously I should have known already LMAO
Bet you probably got your start with Josie and the *****cats :p
Odds are that it's their policy to cause as much trouble as possible because most people are push overs when faced with a confrontation. Most people, when faced with that situation, would probably say something, but won't get past that if the retailers refuse.
Similar situation happened to my dad and I. Our old table saw (a lot older then I was, and a lot heavier too) started throwing out sparks when we turned it on and wouldn't go off. While it was a good saw, we didn't have the time available to have the motor sent off and repaired. We needed a cheapo table saw to get the work done.
On the way home there were 2 lowes. We stop at the first one and see that they are having a deal on a decent but cheap table. But they only have one left and it's their "Policy" not to sell it until they get more. (This is also illegal, often called a lure product, something like that). But we had them check the inventory of the other lowes on the way back. They had a couple.
So we get to the other store and find that they have them, but they are not on sale. We go to get our reserved saw (we reserved it from the first store, just incase) and I notice a sign on the front of the manager's desk that said "We will give back 110% any price difference lower found anywhere else." Well, there was about 30-40 bucks between the first lowes sale price, and this store's price.
My dad mentions the sign and the price difference, and the managers immediately become hostile. They refused to give back the price difference, said they weren't allowed to, so on and so on. My dad calmly starts working up the managerial chain, going to the next higher person, one after the other. Finally, the top most manager says that he has to talk to the regional director. So he calls him up. They start talking and bantering back and forth for about 5 minutes.
My dad walks up, takes the phone and talks to the regional director. Within 10 seconds of getting on the phone the director approved the refund. Within 3 minutes of this, we had the table saw for about 3 bucks less then the first store's sale price.
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Good for him.
Yea yea I know its only 3 bucks. And for me its only a video game and 12 bucks.
but its the principle of the thing
They act like they can just piss on you and you wont do anything.
In this case they pissed (figuratively speaking) on my daughter.
And that I'll take exeption to every time.
This aint over...trust me.
I plan on becomming so aggrivating they will be practically willing to give it to me just to be rid of me. ;)
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I manage a grocery store and deal with this every single day. Our prices are changed on the fly by our home store and override local changes. So, even if I spot a problem early and correct it with my scan coordinator, later that same day it can be wrong again if the home store sends us an update. Often signs will be missed when the weekly ad changes and old prices will still be showing on some items.
The rule of thumb is give the customer the lower of the two prices and be done with it. It's not worth the 20 cents I'm losing on a 2.49 item. I usually know what the correct price is beforehand because I've done it 3 or 4 times on the same item already that day. BUT, you always have to check it out before giving it at the reduced price because customers would never switch pricetags, change sale signs, mark thru tags with sharpies, put their own tags on, ect.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Good for him.
Yea yea I know its only 3 bucks. And for me its only a video game and 12 bucks.
but its the principle of the thing
They act like they can just piss on you and you wont do anything.
In this case they pissed (figuratively speaking) on my daughter.
And that I'll take exeption to every time.
This aint over...trust me.
I plan on becomming so aggrivating they will be practically willing to give it to me just to be rid of me. ;)
Actually, it was 33 bucks. The 3 bucks was just the extra 10% that was supposed to be taken off of the difference in price after the entire amount is cleared off.
Anyway, it's a careful road you must tread. It's one I'm having difficulty learning in Construction Management. By pushing the issue and declaring someone wrong to their face, you automatically put them on the defensive, REGARDLESS of whether they are wrong or not. It's very easy to say "You're a friggin retard."
It's very hard to get them to accept that they are. Especially if you take the wrong road to begin with.
Plus add onto the fact that you've given them time to correct the problem. Legal wise, if the price tag has been fixed, and you didn't call them on it then, you're ****ed.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Posted this in the general forums by mistake.
Skuzzy please delete the OTHER thread
as for some reason it wont let me do it
Retail question
No, not about getting a new woman
Item in store in this case COMP USA has a "COMP USA" price sticker on that clearly says $19.99.
Bring it to the register. When the lady rings it up it comes up as $32.00.
Now this was a good sticker. Meaning it wasnt mangled or altered in any way shape or form which would indicate to me that it was intentionally placed on the item and not simply peeled off one item and put on another.
What price does the item have to be sold at?
I was always under the impression that by law. You had to sell an item at or under the marked price
And that you could not sell an item for more then the marked price
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Dred, I believe that the item must be sold for the marked price otherwise it falls under the false advertising side of things.
I know that this is the case in Australia and our laws are usually very similar to yours in most cases.
It's not about how much the price difference was, it's about poor business ethics and laziness on the part of store owners/staff.
The customer is not always right (and I don't hestitate to push this point on people, I'm not one to take bull**** from banana customers) but in this case, you were right and the business was out of line.
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Sorry to burst your bubble Dred but "false advertising" is just that, advertising a lower price through some media (i.e. tv, radio, paper, etc. etc) and charging a higher price in th store. By law, the seller must sell the item "as advertised".
Now some states may have variations, but the laws generally say the same thing. The seller is protected by "accidents" such as a clerk marking down an item lower than it should. Ever see the Miracle Whip commercials with the cartoon turkeys dressed up as clerks changing the prices?????:D
Saying all that, the manager should have done the right thing and honored the price on the video game.
(I'm not a lawyer but I know plenty of the scumbags!)
Obie:aok
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Originally posted by Obie303
Sorry to burst your bubble Dred but "false advertising" is just that, advertising a lower price through some media (i.e. tv, radio, paper, etc. etc) and charging a higher price in th store. By law, the seller must sell the item "as advertised".
Now some states may have variations, but the laws generally say the same thing. The seller is protected by "accidents" such as a clerk marking down an item lower than it should. Ever see the Miracle Whip commercials with the cartoon turkeys dressed up as clerks changing the prices?????:D
Saying all that, the manager should have done the right thing and honored the price on the video game.
(I'm not a lawyer but I know plenty of the scumbags!)
Obie:aok
56:8-2.5. Sale,attempt to sell or offer for sale of merchandise without a tag or lable with the selling price
It shall be an unlawfu practice for any person to sell,attempt to sell or offer for sale any merchandice at retail unless the totall selling price of such merchandice is plainly marked by a stamp label or sign either affixed to the merchandice or located at the point where the merchandice is offered for sale
56:8-2.6. Daily Failure to tag as a seperate violation
For the purposes of this act,each day for which the total selling price is not marked in accordance with the provisions of this act for each group of identical merchandise shall constitute a seperate violation of this act and the act of which this is a supplement
Under the Weights and measures act
51:1-29(a).1
Selling or exposing for sale 1 improperly labeled package of commodoties
And there is precendent for this
A snippet from http://www.state.nj.us/lps/ca/press/dreade.htm
The New Jersey Office of the Attorney General
NJ Dept of Law and public safety
Division of consumer affairs
On December 11, 2006
State Charges Duane Reade Drugstores
with Selling Expired and Mispriced Products
NEWARK — Attorney General Stuart Rabner and the Division of Consumer Affairs have filed suit against Duane Reade International, Inc., alleging that the company violated state laws by selling expired and mispriced products to the public, including non-prescription drugs, infant formula, baby food, and other health and beauty products.
Among other things not relevent to this conversation
Committed unconscionable commercial practices by selling merchandise at a price in excess of the posted price
Violated the Weights and Measures Act by improper price scanning
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Actually, it was 33 bucks. The 3 bucks was just the extra 10% that was supposed to be taken off of the difference in price after the entire amount is cleared off.
Anyway, it's a careful road you must tread. It's one I'm having difficulty learning in Construction Management. By pushing the issue and declaring someone wrong to their face, you automatically put them on the defensive, REGARDLESS of whether they are wrong or not. It's very easy to say "You're a friggin retard."
It's very hard to get them to accept that they are. Especially if you take the wrong road to begin with.
Plus add onto the fact that you've given them time to correct the problem. Legal wise, if the price tag has been fixed, and you didn't call them on it then, you're ****ed.
At this point I dont even care about the game. Thats secondary.
Its the point of the matter
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I was under the impression that this fell in the "False Advertisement" category. They cannot tell you something costs X and then sell it for X+Y.
Most, if not all States have "bait and switch" laws that require retailers to sell an item at the advertised price or what the item is marked at.
You should bring any discrepancies to the manager's attention. If they refuse to honor the sticker price, you can file a complaint with the state consumer protection agency and you simply don't shop there again.
I saw a similar thing at CompUSA, where they had two different prices on the two of the same products. I showed both to the manager, who thanked me, gave me the lower price and promptly had a clerk put new stickers on the balance of the shelf stock.
My regards,
Widewing
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They saw a kid with a game, they salivated. However, DRED should get this straightened on his next trip there.
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Originally posted by Widewing
Most, if not all States have "bait and switch" laws that require retailers to sell an item at the advertised price or what the item is marked at.
You should bring any discrepancies to the manager's attention. If they refuse to honor the sticker price, you can file a complaint with the state consumer protection agency and you simply don't shop there again.
I saw a similar thing at CompUSA, where they had two different prices on the two of the same products. I showed both to the manager, who thanked me, gave me the lower price and promptly had a clerk put new stickers on the balance of the shelf stock.
My regards,
Widewing
Widewing, I'm pretty sure the "Bait and Switch" situation is something entirely different.
I've heard that Best Buy is notorious for the bait and switch. Like I said before, they give a great sale price for something, but they "accidentally" run out down to the last copy. It is "store policy" not to sell the last copy. After you realize you can't buy the sale item, they direct you to another item that could be anywhere from slightly on sale, to over priced.
So now this is illegal. The stores can't slap a sale sticker on an item they refuse to sell.
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Cali law says the price on the package is what you sell it for.