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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: kamilyun on March 31, 2007, 03:45:35 PM
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My coworker, a Chinese national, who is a graduate student/lab assistant here in the SF/Bay Area went back to China and Hong Kong to spend some time with his fiancee and plan their wedding.
Upon trying to re-enter the US, he was turned around and informed that they wanted to do a full background check that would take 1 month at least. He's been in the US on a student visa (he IS a student in good standing). He would have been getting his Ph.D. in a few months and wanted to stay in the US and work in pharmaceuticals/biotech--areas where US companies can't get enough talented "natives"
So...while hundreds or thousands of illegals will swarm across the border today, tomorrow and next week, this guy sits in China waiting for his clearance to come back to the US.
Oh, btw...he's paid off of a US government research grant...
Brilliant! :rolleyes:
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A perfect example of a broken system that could use a complete overhaul.
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Paint the Whole picture here... not just a snapshot.
There must have been something wrong with his return Visa.
No one just leaves and expects to return without making sure all the credentials are in order.
There is more to this story than what has been posted.
Mac
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Maybe the Chinese government tried to get him to be a spy, but he refused. Now they sent the U.S. government info to cause him problems.
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the INS did the right thing
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Maybe a whole bunch of Chinese have come here under the guise of student, and worked to steal secrets? Maybe your boy isn't as innocent as he pretends?
It's not like he would tell you in private if he was working to steal secrets, more likely he would tell you how he loved the USA and wanted to stay and work here in the future. Makes a better cover.
Could it be? Always possible.
Let him study in China.
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So...while hundreds or thousands of illegals will swarm across the border today, tomorrow and next week, this guy sits in China waiting for his clearance to come back to the US.
Oh, btw...he's paid off of a US government research grant...
Brilliant! :rolleyes: [/B]
Meanwhile , the U.S. citizens are down on all fours getting cornholed by Bush, Kennedy and the rest of the gang of Pro Mexican Illegal invader supporters ,
who have completely turned their backs on our Border laws ! :mad:
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Originally posted by kamilyun
Oh, btw...he's paid off of a US government research grant...
you dont repay grants, you repay loans.
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I get the impression that Bush does not care if the Chinese steal our secrets, he's giving everything else to them.
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The dude is probally spying. They did the right thing not to let the scum back in!
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why would a chinese national get a grant to study here? why is kamilyun advocating the potential yellow menace on an obscure BBS with so many ultra right wing subscribers? I think he's trolling.
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We dont need ANOTHER communist here... We are giving this whole place away to china and mexico fast enough as is.
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Originally posted by Mr No Name
We dont need ANOTHER communist here... We are giving this whole place away to china and mexico fast enough as is.
I'm lucky I know Japanese, Chinese (I only know up to ~1000 Hanzi characters out of 5000+ required) and a bit of Spanish. I'm well equipped for the 21st century unlike you guys :aok
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I know german. It's been too long, I know those bastards have something up their sleeve.
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Originally posted by Xargos
I get the impression that Bush does not care if the Chinese steal our secrets, he's giving everything else to them.
Versus Clinton who sold them everything they wanted, including nights in the Lincoln Bedroom in exchange for campaign contributions?
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Same difference as far as I'm concerned. But Clinton's integrity is far worse. At least Bush doesn't murder the people who have dirt on him.
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Althought it's hard to judge without all the facts, my bet is that he may have forgotten to have his I20 signed by his faculty. When u r a student you DO NOT have the right to leave the US for the whole lenght of your student visa, and you better make sure that you give back your I94 at the port of departure.
Those were the two main mistakes that prevented some of my fellow students from re-entering the US after summer vacation.
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If you plan to leave the U.S. during the holidays and will be returning for the continuation of your studies, you will need to take the following items with you in order to reenter the U.S.:
1. A Valid Passport (one that is not expiring within 6 months)
2. A valid Visa (the stamp in your passport which has your photo on it - be sure to check the expiration date). If your stamp will expire before the date you will reenter the U.S., you will need to apply for a new visa in your home country. A NEW VISA CANNOT BE ISSUED IN THE U.S. Stop by the International Center for more details, or click here.
3. A valid SEVIS I-20 (Check section 10 of your current I-20. If the signature of the International Student Advisor is over 12 months old, you will need a new travel signature on your SEVIS I-20.
4. A copy of your class schedule for the next semester. To get a copy of your schedule for the next term see Records and Registration in 102 Tillman Hall.
5. Optional. A letter from the International Student Advisor stating your legal status and your intentions to return to study at Winthrop after your vacation.
Students planning to travel to other countries will need to call the Embassy/Consulate of that country to see if you will need a visa, even if you are just going to Canada.
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Originally posted by kamilyun
My coworker, a Chinese national, who is a graduate student/lab assistant here in the SF/Bay Area ...
Brilliant! :rolleyes:
I hope you didn't expect a rational response from these ********s
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Yep, as an F1 student, you aren't allowed any mistakes with the I20.
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My wife went to school (chemical engineering degree) with a young foreign student. He was very curious about life in New York, and had a curiosity about exothermic reactions and the world trade center.
She always thought there was something weird about the guy so she refused to talk to him much, especially when he asked her about her father's work which happened to be in the WTC. Then someone tried to bring down the WTC with some bombs in the parking garage.
A short while later, she saw his picture on the news. He was one of the original WTC bombers.
Yea the INS and pretty much all federal goons are incompetent and seem to be doing their best to harass citizens instead of actually controlling immigration problems, but I can't complain whenever they decide to look into someone's background before they let someone into the country. Yes, in this case it's probably overkill and yes they let hundreds of thousands of undocumented illegal immigrants in through Mexico every year, but I still can't see complaining about them when they attempt to be thorough in their checks.
And BTW, China has a VERY active intelligence program, just as active as the US and Russian/Soviet programs at the height of the cold war. Anyone failing to understand that this is a direct threat to national security is a retard. IIRC, the two most recent high-profile espionage cases both involved Chinese spies. Better safe than sorry IMHO, especially since I'm one of those who's lives are most at risk to military espionage activity.
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The INS does apply strange logic at times. I was refused a visa once on the basis that I might overstay. I wanted to do some flying. One of the reasons mentioned was that I would soon receive a green card through the immigration lottery process which I had applied for some time previously.
So they wouldn't give me a visa to go to America for a holiday because they were about to grant me a visa to work in the USA?
Confused? I certainly was. Although pleased that I was about to be given a work visa which duly arrived a few months later.
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Yea. The rules just don't make sense sometimes, and they've just about taken all human judgement out of the equation.
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Originally posted by john9001
you dont repay grants, you repay loans.
john...he's paid off of a grant....not paying back a grant....