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Title: Hellcat
Post by: Movie on April 03, 2007, 03:42:23 PM
How does the F6F-3 differ to the F5F-5 currently in Aces High?
Title: Re: Hellcat
Post by: Masherbrum on April 03, 2007, 03:48:42 PM
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Originally posted by Movie
How does the F6F-3 differ to the F5F-5 currently in Aces High?


You should have the answer you seek, by just Googling that question.
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Movie on April 03, 2007, 03:52:02 PM
yea takes too long some smart ppl who specialize in hellcats will answer
Title: Hellcat
Post by: FBplmmr on April 03, 2007, 03:55:49 PM
a cupholder :D
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Masherbrum on April 03, 2007, 03:58:26 PM
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Originally posted by Movie
yea takes too long some smart ppl who specialize in hellcats will answer


or.......Why get off of your keyster and use Google, when you can just be lazy?
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Movie on April 03, 2007, 04:00:58 PM
nah thats why they have this forum talk about planes and vehicles
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Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 03, 2007, 04:04:48 PM
Masher, if it is so easy..do it.
and get a thank you out of it.
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Joachim on April 03, 2007, 04:26:06 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F6F_Hellcat
Title: Hellcat
Post by: john9001 on April 03, 2007, 04:26:38 PM
whats a "F5F-5" is that some secret plane like the RV-8?
Title: Hellcat
Post by: bsdaddict on April 03, 2007, 04:46:50 PM
I've heard it mentioned that the AH F6F-5's performance is closer to that of the F6F-3, so I can understand the original posters desire to have an experienced AHer explain the differences...  

Sometimes RTFM isn't the best answer...
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Shuckins on April 03, 2007, 04:58:00 PM
Differences between the -3 and -5 were numerous, but often not readily apparent.  The Navy pressured Grumman to correct deficiencies in top speed and roll rate of the -3 when work began on the -5.

1.  Top speed:  The -3 Hellcat's top speed at its' rated altitude is usually given as around 375 mph TAS, while that of its' main competitor, the F4U-1, is around 400 mph.

2.  Roll rate:  While the -3 Hellcat's ailerons were considered an almost ideal control at speeds of around 100 knots, at speeds above 250 knots the roll rate slackened considerably.  From a high rate near 65 degrees per second, the rate fell to around 35 degrees at speeds above 250 knots.

3.  Weak horizontal stabilizers:  In terminal velocity dives from high altitude the Hellcat's would often buckle by approximately 15 degrees out of line.

The fixes:

1.  Top speed:  A number of changes were made to improve top speed:  A redesigned engine cowling reduced drag;  a R2800-10W engine with water injection was installed;  a high-gloss sea-blue paint job with factory applied coat of wax replaced the original three-hued paint scheme, further reducing drag.  These changes made the -5 between 25 and 30 mph faster than the -3.

2.  Roll rate:  A spring-tab system was installed on the ailerons, reducing control forces and allowing full aileron deflection at speeds 100 knots higher than on the -3, in effect almost doubling the Hellcat's roll rate at high speeds.

3.  Weak horizontal stabilizers:  new stabilizers were designed with 10 inch wide, full-span 1/4 inch aluminum leading-edge cuffs to endure the buffeting during high-speed, high-g pullouts.


The -5 Hellcat in Aces High seems to me to have the improved roll rate but a top speed nearer that of the -3.  I've never been able to get it above 380mph TAS.

Regards, Shuckins
Title: Hellcat
Post by: AquaShrimp on April 03, 2007, 06:21:12 PM
Masherbrum, what the heck kind of response was that?  You are the stereotypical internet nerd: bitter and lurking.  That coincides with your silly para-military nickname.

Theres one thing that pilots like to do- and thats talk about airplanes.
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Masherbrum on April 03, 2007, 10:08:26 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Masherbrum, what the heck kind of response was that?  You are the stereotypical internet nerd: bitter and lurking.  That coincides with your silly para-military nickname.

Theres one thing that pilots like to do- and thats talk about airplanes.


Can someone please post up a link to Erich hartmann?   Come on, I understand on some circumstances, but this?

Sorry shadesboi, I'm far from bitter.   But keep trying, speaking of lurking, what'd you just do?
Title: Hellcat
Post by: AquaShrimp on April 04, 2007, 03:06:53 AM
I would have told him about the F6F had shuckins not already done it.
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Movie on April 04, 2007, 04:08:57 PM
thx for info shuckins, shes a beauty look at her...
(http://perso.orange.fr/christophe.arribat/stoff6f5.jpg)
Title: Hellcat
Post by: Sikboy on April 04, 2007, 04:52:18 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
whats a "F5F-5" is that some secret plane like the RV-8?


It's a late production Skyrocket.

(http://www.murdoconline.net/pics/catblogging060224.jpg)


I love that plane.

-Sik