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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: TequilaChaser on April 05, 2007, 12:36:24 PM
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if you have high electricity bills, have hot/cold spots in your home, have humidity control issues in your home, and you live in costal regions or in hot dry or hot humid climate regions. you might wna t to consider having your attic FOAMED....
meaning have a qualified company come in and spray Closed-Cell Foam insulation or Open-cell Foam insulation on the underside of your roof in the attic.
some of the benfits are:
-reduce Utility ( electricity use/cost for cooling/heating ) from 30% to 60%
the company I work for does tihs, and I have seen Customer's Electic bills drop from 480+ to 168.00/ 530 to 185.00 / 345 to 150 and so on........
-You reduce the wear & tear on your AC & Heating equipment ( system will now run about 1/4 to 1/3 the time of what it did before the FOAM was installed )
- You will control Humdidty in your home, the attic becomes part of the indoor conditioned envelope, so bugs/critters/rats/dirt etc... are not inflitrating in to your attic and even into your house.....dust problems become almost non-existent after the foam is put in. Your attic will be about the same temperature as your Living Room (indoors)....no more 200 degree attics.
- More even temperatures through out the entire home ( no more hot or cold spots )
an example I use regarding the cost of doing this FOAM installation is: say you had for example $5,000 or $10,000 and you went and deposited it in your savings acct or in a CD at the bank, and let it set there to mature or for a minimal of 10 years............what would you have earned/made off of it?
now take that same $5,000 or $10,000 and use it to have the Closed Cell Foam sprayed into your attic, you will see your Elect. Bill drop a good bit the very 1st month, and you will continue to see that savings for the rest of the time you are at this home, it will actually on most accts pay for itself in 5 years or less, with normally 5 years + til you leave the home or this life of pure profit after that( compare that to the 10 year waiting on your money u put in that CD, see which earns you more!!!)
when you spend to do the FOAM you will increase the equity of your home, by about 2 to 2 1/2 times of what you actually spent.......
depending on the SEER rating of your AC system and age of your home, your home might even qualify for an energy Efficient or even energy Star Label with the state you live in.
You will earn an energy tax credit write-off as well......
I have done Air Conditioning and Heating for nearly 19 years, I do custom duct & system designs, I am a certified Florida Energy Rater, and an Energy Analysis Consultant as well. where I do system performance testing/ Building performance testing and IAQ consulting ( Indoor Air Quality )
if you are interested in saving money, improving your home, having healthy cleaner indoor air, and a more relaxing indoor climate then check out the following links
http://www.buildingscience.com
http://www.buildingamerica.com
http://www.energystar.org
if you are interested and want more info, drop me an email or a PM.......
hope some of you might find this information of value
Have a Great Day
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The hot new construction around here is metal buildings. Almost every one of them uses spray foam insulation. It works great and is very cost effective. It's like turning your house into a styrofoam ice chest. It also is a great sound insulator.
I'm planning on using it on my house addition.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
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? don't get it Ripsnort
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If you have soffit vents in the attic, how will foam on the underside of the roof reduce the utility bills?
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what's the approximate cost range per sq ft?
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
If you have soffit vents in the attic, how will foam on the underside of the roof reduce the utility bills?
He is talking about a "hot roof" system, you take out the vents.
Works well with a metal, tile or concrete roof but will wreck composition roofs pretty quickly.
shamus
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
If you have soffit vents in the attic, how will foam on the underside of the roof reduce the utility bills?
is why I mentioned getting a Qualified company to do it, they go in and prep, sealing off all soffits, cap vents, ridge vents, gable type vents before doing the Foam spraying......
hmm, Rip might have meant the building science link, the page looks like it has changed to a spam site..............weird...wil l find out here it went......
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Originally posted by Shamus
He is talking about a "hot roof" system, you take out the vents.
Works well with a metal, tile or concrete roof but will wreck composition roofs pretty quickly.
shamus
shamus, why do you think it will wreck a composition roof? would like to hear(read) your theory.....
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Heat is the major enemy of asphalt shingles.
shamus
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my bad for the buildingcience.com link, no idea why the site changed
here is 2 more links,
http://www.eeba.org
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http://www.eeba.org/resources/dumbsouth/default.htm
A composition/shingled roof has an average heat absorbtion factor of roughly 85%, meaning when you use a vented attic with batt/blown in type insulation you are soaking up 85% of the heat from the sun hitting your roofline. when you install the closed cell foan you reduce this absorbtion factor to less than 10%..the roof becomes more reflective the roof actually becomes cooler now on both sides, than it would be if you used a vented attic.......
I recently did the Spring Home & Patio show here in Jacksonville, Florida....... we had a display set up to show the difference between the 2 types..... using heat lamps and such......
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Be warned,I used to sell this stuff,and if not done properly your roof will have to be replaced.If it starts to leak the roofer can,t remove the tiles.What do you do...new roof!!!!I got so many complaints from people that used the company,I decided to leave.
I would not use it on my property,but maybe in the US,the installation and quality is better.
Just my experience:)
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i shall immediately inform my broker to purchase 10,000 shares of the stock.
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Originally posted by john9001
i shall immediately inform my broker to purchase 10,000 shares of the stock.
No John, don't do that!
Not until you have heard about my superior offer to cut you in on 10% of my *new* discount pharmacy, fauxlex watch store, and money transfer service for the wives of deceased African dictators.
I'm sure you've had offers like this before, but never before has someone audaciously bundled together all three at once, we will become the internet's one stop shop for the extremely greedy and gullible.
- SEAGOON
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I read an online article written by a foam insulation guy. He explained how the concept of R-value is BS because all insulations are tested without wind, drafts or humidity. With real world wind, drafts and humidity most insulations perform no where near as well as their indicated R-value would suggest. Spray foam is the only insulation that is not seriously hurt by these things. Rigid foam can do well, but almost never is installed well enough and usually has gaps that let drafts through.
TequilaChaser is rightfully enthusiastic about a great product and service that most people are clueless about.
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I had closed cell foam sprayed on my attic floor 25 years ago, it was quite expensive at the time but made a huge difference in energy use.
Maybe I am hearing from old dinosaur type roofers, but the general consensus is that hot roof systems are best left to other than asphalt shingle.
shamus
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Not until you have heard about my superior offer to cut you in on 10% of my *new* discount pharmacy, fauxlex watch store, and money transfer service for the wives of deceased African dictators.
I'm sure you've had offers like this before, but never before has someone audaciously bundled together all three at once, we will become the internet's one stop shop for the extremely greedy and gullible.
- SEAGOON
Well where's the Russian trapped in Space? I call shennanigans.
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To add and on another note.
The more airtight you make your home.
the more important it is to have radon detectors.
Radon gas in older hoses didnt used to be as much a problem because the house breathed and more often then not the radon would escape harmlessly out of the house.
Now with all the newer type constructions houses have become more airtight then ever.
The upside as we all know is better efficiancy with heating and cooling.
The downside is Radon now has nowhere to go.
I know here in Jersey now all homes are required by law to have a radon detector.
I would assume this is the same in many other areas. or will be at some point in the near future.
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this stuff is being used in england and has got very bad press.
If you have the old type clay roof tiles or similar the foam expaneds and pushs the tiles out entualy breaking them,any damaged tiles then cannot be replaces wit out the foam being removed and some times meaning a whole new roof.
The roofers hate it too
,even though it makes them work they have to work to hard to replae things