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Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: mipoikel on April 07, 2007, 06:21:55 AM
Lately I've had problems with friendly ack. AI ack is hitting me if Im  behind enemy plane. Happened at least yesterday and today, both times I lost oil and some smaller parts but it didnt kill me.

What could cause this?

Net status looks ok and ping is normal (about 150-170)
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Ball on April 07, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
I find it kind of ironic that AI ack is there for defence purposes, yet i have been killed many times by both friendly ack and puffy ack whilst defending against attackers.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: RSLQK186 on April 07, 2007, 05:17:57 PM
Been playing 5  years and it's never happened to me. And I am an ack hugger when the chips are down. So it may be a lag issue that affects some and not everyone.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: titanic3 on April 07, 2007, 06:02:34 PM
i was involved in a 3 way dogfighting the other day, and there was puffy ack everywhere. a enemy N1k rammed me and a weird thing happened.... a puffy ack exploded right at the moment of the collision. i asked what happened and they said it must been puffy ack.  HTC should make the acks smarter:(
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Scca on April 09, 2007, 07:28:11 AM
It's happened to me twice (once with 3 kills), so I don't follow a con into the CV ack anymore..
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Optiker on April 09, 2007, 12:06:36 PM
Don't think this is caused by net lag. Happened to me once offline, taking off from carrier!
Regards,
Optiker
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Simaril on April 09, 2007, 12:35:39 PM
Never had it myself.

But I have had some pretty impressive lag effects. One time I messed up a pass on some buffs, and flew right past the gunports of a good gunner. I expected to get plastered badly.... I winced, waited for it, waited for it, relaxed, and had time to think "Man, I thought I was flat out dead" -- before the bulelts all hit, with me now 1.5 k from the vulnerable point.

I'd seriously bet that effect explains a LOT of "puffy ack" death, though I'd never be so bold to deny that friendly puffs could ever possibly do that. Just remember that puffs are statistical effect, not aimed ones - so it seems unlikely that HTC would "accidentally" forget  and apply the calculation to friendly aircraft.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Scca on April 09, 2007, 01:10:07 PM
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Originally posted by Simaril
Never had it myself.

But I have had some pretty impressive lag effects. One time I messed up a pass on some buffs, and flew right past the gunports of a good gunner. I expected to get plastered badly.... I winced, waited for it, waited for it, relaxed, and had time to think "Man, I thought I was flat out dead" -- before the bulelts all hit, with me now 1.5 k from the vulnerable point.

I'd seriously bet that effect explains a LOT of "puffy ack" death, though I'd never be so bold to deny that friendly puffs could ever possibly do that. Just remember that puffs are statistical effect, not aimed ones - so it seems unlikely that HTC would "accidentally" forget  and apply the calculation to friendly aircraft.
Good theory, but in both cases where I died from puffy ack from the CV, the puffy ack was the only possible cause.  

It was just me and the one who I desired to "send back to the tower" anywhere close.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Simaril on April 09, 2007, 05:09:13 PM
Film on.

If you send HTC a film, they can break open the code to see exactly what happened from exactly what bullet. If there is a puffy bug, they'll be able to find it and fix it IF you have a film. Without that, and without an easy way to reproduce the problem, there just isnt much they can do...from what I've seen on the boards in the past.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: BGgetmo on April 12, 2007, 07:26:45 AM
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Originally posted by Scca
It's happened to me twice (once with 3 kills), so I don't follow a con into the CV ack anymore..


LOL, I have lost count how many times FRIENDLY auto puffy has killed me, usually ina chog while chasing a dive attacker (pony, 38, etc). I always have those guys that say "that cant happen" got news, it does. I dont really care all that much, but hard to defend cv if u die by own ack, while the attacker lives and kills the cv. Seems to only happen in perk rides, wierd:noid

Getmo
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: hitech on April 12, 2007, 11:48:35 AM
It isn't a bug, it is supposed to damage friendly's it just does not aim at them.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: croduh on April 12, 2007, 12:00:02 PM
Haha got ya!
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: mipoikel on April 12, 2007, 12:08:30 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
It isn't a bug, it is supposed to damage friendly's it just does not aim at them.


Oh.. :huh ok.

Give some shooting lessons to it.! :D :D
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: Edbert on April 12, 2007, 12:13:33 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
It isn't a bug, it is supposed to damage friendly's it just does not aim at them.


Yeah...it is most noticeable to me while taking off from field or CV, at least that is when you can see the tracers track towards you (no doubt following a vulcher) as you roll...ping-ping-ping-BOOOOM!

I've not had so much bad luck from puffies, only when they target me directly from 4 miles away.
Title: Friendly ack hitting me?
Post by: BGgetmo on April 12, 2007, 01:51:50 PM
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Originally posted by hitech
It isn't a bug, it is supposed to damage friendly's it just does not aim at them.


ZOMG... God has responded to 1 o'me posts, I r so honered, and ty for clearing that up Hitech , was a source of great debate on range ch. Now we know.

 Getmo