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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: VISTTA on April 08, 2007, 12:12:23 PM
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This has been gone over and over,,,but is there any plans fr the near Future to go back to a single arena again.?? High Tech should have known " if it aint broke, dont fix it"
Who likes to join arenas with only a range of 50 to 100 people in it...boring.......
Bring back the main arena people....
Lets vote on that before we vote on another plane... GAH!!!
VISTTA
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Actually, I have been enjoying the MW with ~40 people in it very much, thank you.
I admit there are usually only about 10 of those engaged in good air combat at any one time, but that is sufficient to have a grand old time.
Guess not every one is alike, eh?
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The answer is "no", per HiTech.
It was broken; they fixed it.
Now, about 100 players get to fly in the EWA and MWA (combined), while the rest are divided between two LWAs, where you should be able to find something suitable. Plus there's still the AvA arena and the DA and TA.
What I see now is largely the break up the huge "super squads" that were unbalancing the single MA by focusing big numbers at any point.
I prefer it the way it is now, but I am getting rather tired of the same maps.
My regards,
Widewing
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Yes the map rotation is very stale. Small maps should be mixed in with large maps. I wouldnt mind seeing Trinity back in the rotation. That would be a huge change of pace.
-Sp0t
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Smells like rotten stink bait to me :cool:
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Why don't people have the guts to ask these questions with their own accounts anymore? Why open a shade just to ask a question?
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i would really like to see ozkansas, trinity and donut every once in a while:D
Or if someone could do a remake of those but make it a little bit smaller:)
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I hope they never go back to that old childish mundane clusterlub of an arena setup again.
Long live the MW Arena!!!!!
And once the P39 comes online :)
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Why don't people have the guts to ask these questions with their own accounts anymore? Why open a shade just to ask a question?
Post says, IP Logged
I'll be Skuzzy could figure out who it was,
if he wanted to
:noid
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i had always been againts multiple arenas....
BUT
i can see why it was done and have grown to live with it, wouldnt waste breath in carrying on argueing
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I am in agreement with this of multiple arenas, only in which I am not ok is the two main arenas and the limitor of users, by me taking 1 MA out or taking out the limitor would be a far better.
Well, thats I think.
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Why don't people have the guts to ask these questions with their own accounts anymore? Why open a shade just to ask a question?
Intardnet anonymity is a wonderful thing for those that can't say it to your face.
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things are great they way they are now. MW and EW planesets are equally matched.
Wish they would start rotating in the FT map though....map rotation is getting old
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Why don't people have the guts to ask these questions with their own accounts anymore? Why open a shade just to ask a question?
May not be a shade. Remember, only a very small number of players post on the forums. It could be that this guy never posted before but felt strongly enough about this to post for the first time.
It isn't like it is a contraversial question or anything.
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Originally posted by REP0MAN
Post says, IP Logged
I'll be Skuzzy could figure out who it was,
if he wanted to
:noid
Aye, but they're logged within the post table meaning unless the Skuzster has built a search tool it'll be a long slog to find the real author, not to mention proxies and masking.
I always found logging IP addresses to be a waste of time.
Intardnet anonymity is a wonderful thing for those that can't say it to your face.
What's the point though? Anonymity is all fine and good, but as long as the question is phrased in a polite manner and follows the commandments, I've never known HTC to have a problem with it.
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Originally posted by Widewing
What I see now is largely the break up the huge "super squads" that were unbalancing the single MA by focusing big numbers at any point.
Some good came of it, some bad. As to bad:
To those that liked the strategic aspects of the game on occassion, organized squads were the best way to organize and conduct them (although, usually is was just a mob rushing a base).
That was hard enough to organize under a single MA, with 150 or more pilots per country. Under multiple arenas, with caps, it is very hard to organize a mission against strats to effect the overall war front on a map.
Its rare to see a enemy strat factory knocked down unless it is very close to a friendly base. Combined efforts to destroy strategic targets across one or more bases are rare. Warfare conducted against material resources just doesn't happen much. Even HQ raids have dropped off from what I've seen.
Most bombers go after hangars in base vulch/capture attempts. You see dar hit, sometimes ord. Troops/supplies are not knocked down now like before. Fuel bunkers don't often get hit.
I used to run B-17's against strats a lot. I don't bother taking up buffs very often any more. Just don't see the point in it, as it will have little overall effect.
HTC included an interesting strat and resupply model into the game, but I don't think it is of any consequence any more.
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Originally posted by VISTTA
This has been gone over and over,,,but is there any plans fr the near Future to go back to a single arena again.?? High Tech should have known " if it aint broke, dont fix it"
Who likes to join arenas with only a range of 50 to 100 people in it...boring.......
Bring back the main arena people....
Lets vote on that before we vote on another plane... GAH!!!
VISTTA
Never again.
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Lets see now, with a screen name of Vistta . That can't possibly be a troll.
I'm betting overlag's new bbs name.
Bronk
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Some good came of it, some bad. As to bad:
To those that liked the strategic aspects of the game on occassion, organized squads were the best way to organize and conduct them (although, usually is was just a mob rushing a base).
That was hard enough to organize under a single MA, with 150 or more pilots per country. Under multiple arenas, with caps, it is very hard to organize a mission against strats to effect the overall war front on a map.
Its rare to see a enemy strat factory knocked down unless it is very close to a friendly base. Combined efforts to destroy strategic targets across one or more bases are rare. Warfare conducted against material resources just doesn't happen much. Even HQ raids have dropped off from what I've seen.
Most bombers go after hangars in base vulch/capture attempts. You see dar hit, sometimes ord. Troops/supplies are not knocked down now like before. Fuel bunkers don't often get hit.
I used to run B-17's against strats a lot. I don't bother taking up buffs very often any more. Just don't see the point in it, as it will have little overall effect.
HTC included an interesting strat and resupply model into the game, but I don't think it is of any consequence any more.
I've observed the same thing, and I have often wondered if HT should've just killed the whole strat concept altogether since he's gone this far. Makes for a shallow sim if there is nothing producing anything of any value worth taking/defending.
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This setup is fine.... thought all the whiners left already
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How many of you guys logon early just to get a
slot in the arena with a decent map and then
don't fly for hours.
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Simple Concept.
Total People logged at this point far exceeded the capacity on the "single" server a few months ago.
2 Options, cater to a small crowd or expand the arenas and grow.
Basic math still applies, populations growing, HTC has the foresight to set itself up to accept the growth that is occurring and will continue to occur.
There's not enough left in this horse to send to a glue factory.
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the only thing i hate about it is when there are like 220 people in one of the late war arenas and like 130 people in the other, it wont let you get into the one with 220 because its full. i hate that.
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Hated the idea of multiple arenas but have grown to accept it and NO its not going back nor should it.
There is plenty to do.
I agree with all posters that better map rotation would be nice.
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Oh, I thought this was a thread about an arena where single people could go while they were looking for dates.
I was getting ready to send the link to Skyrock. :D
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Originally posted by TinmanX
Why don't people have the guts to ask these questions with their own accounts anymore? Why open a shade just to ask a question?
with all the PNGs, maybe it is someone who can't ask under their "own account".
just a guess.
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I whined on about the arena break up, but now i see what I couldn't b4, A year or so from now another late war/ main arena will be needed, AHII is growing, one arena won't cut it, some of the old maps in the new arena would be nice, i like GV'ing these maps don't really offer much in the way of a good ground battle like the older larger maps did, And as some of you have seen me whine on about maps also, they'll be along eventually.
I personally would be willing to pay more per month to have a dedicated map maker at AH, but, I just play the game, to them this is a business and they have to dance with the one that brung em.
Be happy have fun, early mid late ta da ava se there is alot on the table, things have a way of working them selves out.
I'm just not good at being the voice of reason.
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The only problem I have with the setup we have now is it prevents me from being able to fly with my squad sometime because of this floating arena limit thingy.
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Originally posted by Bronk
Lets see now, with a screen name of Vistta . That can't possibly be a troll.
I'm betting overlag's new bbs name.
Bronk
nope, and he likes the multi server setup now....
do love your insults in your sig too....exactly what i ment in the other thread.
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Originally posted by DEMONSLAYER
the only thing i hate about it is when there are like 220 people in one of the late war arenas and like 130 people in the other, it wont let you get into the one with 220 because its full. i hate that.
yep,
this caps, limiting 120 players/arena when are 200-250 players total combined in 4 arenas are killing the last taste of massive multi for Euro players
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I miss the donut map. Mmmmm... donut.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Oh, I thought this was a thread about an arena where single people could go while they were looking for dates.
I was getting ready to send the link to Skyrock. :D
SKYROCK OWNS DATES!!
...or at least, he rents them by the hour....
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Oh, I thought this was a thread about an arena where single people could go while they were looking for dates.
I was getting ready to send the link to Skyrock. :D
:rofl
He only likes pwns
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the multiple main arena has provided collateral benefit that HTC may not have taken into account when they split up the MA. the huge gap in both planes and vehicles is now clearly evident, most notably in the early war arena. this is also the arena that stands to gain the most were HTC to commit resources to address this problem.
for those of us who prefer a fight above other types of game play the early war represents what could be the most fun of the fighting arenas. consider the following suggestion.
The biplanes:
avia B 534
I-15
Cr-42
gladiator
F3F-3
all were in service at the start of hostilities.
Consider these early monoplanes.
France:
MS 406 (1x20mm + 2x8mm)
D520 (1x20mm 4x8mm)
arsenal VG-33 (1x20mm 4x8mm) any of these three would do OK in the EW
Netherlands:
fokker D XXI (4x8mg)
fokker G 1A (9xmg)
fokker D XXIII (4x8mg)
Poland:
PZL P24 (2x20mm 2xmg)
Soviet Union:
Polikarpov I-16 (4x8mm)
Polikarpov I-17 (1x20mm 4xmg)
MiG-1/-3 (3xmg)
LaGG-3 (1x20mm 3xmg)
Yak-1 (1x20mm 1xmg)
Italy:
Fiat G 50 (2xmg)
Macchi MC 200 (2xmg)
Japan:
mitsubishi A5M (2x7.7mm)
nakajima Ki27 (2x7.7mm)
nakajima Ki43 (2x7.7)
United States:
Curtiss P-36
Bell P-39
Curtiss P-40F (merlin engined saw service in the commonwealth)
Grumman F4F-3 (4x.50mg) a little monster no doubt
Brewster F2A, B239 & B339 armament varied between 4 & 6 mgs
P-38 E or F the G model is really mid war
Grumman F6F-3
P-47 B
Germany:
FW 190A3
Austrailia:
CAC CA-12 boomerang (2x20mm 4xmg) was a neat design based on the NA AT-6. while outclassed by the japanese fighters it flew against it did acquit itself well.
Romania:
IAR 80 and 90 (2x20mm 4mg)
this represents tons of work for HTC's small staff and we will probably never see even a fraction of these however I wanted to point out how much potential there is and what a great variety of combatant aircraft were available. I would really love to see some of these models incorporated into the game.
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That was hard enough to organize under a single MA, with 150 or more pilots per country. Under multiple arenas, with caps, it is very hard to organize a mission against strats to effect the overall war front on a map.
Its rare to see a enemy strat factory knocked down unless it is very close to a friendly base. Combined efforts to destroy strategic targets across one or more bases are rare. Warfare conducted against material resources just doesn't happen much. Even HQ raids have dropped off from what I've seen.
The need for missions and strat attacks went out with the incoming of the "horde".
Why setup a mission when 50+ planes all fly and swarm a base anyways ?
Why hit strat ? it useless ... with 50+ planes moving from base to base, there is no need .
And lastly ... I would say the about 90% have no clue as to how to "work" the current strat system to their advantage.
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the huge gap in both planes and vehicles is now clearly evident, most notably in the early war arena
So very true Storch.
I love to pop into the EW arena for the fight, but it is quite evident that the hanger is lacking in resources and definately needs to be addressed ... hopefully sooner than later.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
Oh, I thought this was a thread about an arena where single people could go while they were looking for dates.
I was getting ready to send the link to Skyrock. :D
:rofl ............................. ....wait.....:furious
:noid
Mark
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Mark is so loved...
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GHI: It works that way for those in the US as well. I like the choice of other arenas but being forced into one with paltry numbers in order to fly with a squadron is the reason I no longer subscribe. If HTC was to go back to a non-split LW arena even half of the month, I'd start spending money with them again.
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Bring back the old MA :aok
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Originally posted by Kazaa
Bring back the old MA :aok
This could go SO many ways with a 'your momma' joke, all of them downward.
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Originally posted by Laurie
i had always been againts multiple arenas . . . BUT, i can see why it was done and have grown to live with it, wouldnt waste breath in carrying on arguing
Me too Laurie.
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Originally posted by sgt203
Hated the idea of multiple arenas but have grown to accept it and NO its not going back nor should it.
I agree, The multi arenas have given, no made me up planes, and tanks that I would have never bothered with, not like your going to see 109 E's flying around in LW, well not for long.anyway. The EW and MW war are more realistic as far as the huge furballs not being there go. It is a little hard to find fighters to fight but LW can solve that if that's what your looking for.
Long Live Multi Arenas !
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yawn. in.
-SR-:noid
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Originally posted by Anyone
do love your insults in your sig too....exactly what i ment in the other thread.
:cry :cry :cry
Bronk
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Originally posted by Widewing
What I see now is largely the break up the huge "super squads" that were unbalancing the single MA by focusing big numbers at any point.
They were a detriment to the game. One of the biggest benefits to the division. Plus giving the early/midwar people a place to do combat against like minded people.
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Originally posted by Bronk
:cry :cry :cry
Bronk
its this typical response is the reason for that other thread. The total lack of respect for other members in the community.
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Originally posted by Anyone
its this typical response is the reason for that other thread. The total lack of respect for other members in the community.
Shades boi, whats your reason for being in shades? hmmm
People in glass houses ect...ect.
Bronk
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cos i started out as Anyone on both game (2 weeker) and forum, before deciding to change my ingame name? but whats your point anyway?
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Originally posted by Anyone
cos i started out as Anyone on both game (2 weeker) and forum, before deciding to change my ingame name? but whats your point anyway?
My point is you talk about the lack of respect here. But you have no qualms jumping up in my face. Hello hypocrite.
Want respect, give a little. It's that simple. Post one thing I said negative about you before this .
Originally posted by Anyone
nope, and he likes the multi server setup now....
do love your insults in your sig too....exactly what i ment in the other thread.
You can't.
Better get use to the fact you starting watermelon is just as bad as anyone else starting it.
Ohh BTW your squad mates are big boys now. They can handle there own problems, if any.
Bronk