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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Pyro on April 09, 2007, 10:40:27 AM
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The final round of voting came down to a razor thin margin of victory. I figured it was going to be close but not this close. The winner is...drumroll...the B-25! Congrats to those who supported it. We're close to releasing 2.10 so you can expect to see it in 2.11.
Here are the results of the of each round.
Round 1
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/round1.jpg)
Round 2
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/round2.jpg)
Round 3
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/round3.jpg)
Round 4
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/round4.jpg)
Round 5
(http://beta.hitechcreations.com/pyro/round5.jpg)
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Now when you say close to releasing 2.10. How close are we talking here?
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2 weeks :D :O
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Fortnight
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W00T!
Thx for the look at the voting Pyro
Cheers,
asw
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:cry
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Can you give us total numbers of votes cast Pyro?
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Think of it this way...
I'm not changing the fighter I fly, and I fly fighters. Therefore, any addition would be JAT (JustAnotherTarget). I happen to like killing buffs. Another buff is good. Another fighter would also be good, but I would still see more Lavochkins, Spitfires, and Mustangs.
Dusting off my Mk. 8 gun sight with the Russian/American hybrid reticle in anticipation.
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Originally posted by VWE
Can you give us total numbers of votes cast Pyro?
That would also tell you roughly how many subscribers they have. Unintended consequences.
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Man with that close of a margin, maybe they should do both of them considering they both had real strong support right off the bat.
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+ or - 10%... o.k. then by how many votes did the -39 lose by...
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LOL! VWE
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yea...something else to shoot at.
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Originally posted by VWE
+ or - 10%... o.k. then by how many votes did the -39 lose by...
P39 lost by x votes.
P39 lost by .4%
x = .004y
y = x / .004
Total subscribers = y
I was interested in the same thing, but I couldn't find a way to do it.
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interesting voting results, the way the votes swung, P39 had more votes than B25 in round four (three way runoff) but lost in a two way runoff.
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yay! congrats b25 fans
I wanted the 410 myslef, but the B25 should be a target i can hit even if im abit drunk! :D
Large target = good
Small target = bad
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It was a virtual tie!! Don't we get both?
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Its not a bad choice, wasnt my pick but there were much worse alternatives. :aok
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Originally posted by john9001
interesting voting results, the way the votes swung, P39 had more votes than B25 in round four (three way runoff) but lost in a two way runoff.
But that would be expected, since the 3 way included an attack/bomber craft and a bomber. Once that "bomber vote" split disappeared, it would seem reasonable to expect the bomber would get the majority of the A-26 voters.
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Aww man it was SO close! Maybe do the Mitchell first and Airacobra second? :confused: :cry
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Yup. within the margin of error of + - 3%
The kiddies should get both
Gotta say I am surprised. I thought the 39 would be a sure thing
I think I now know why they put it to a vote.
Pyro just wanted an excuse to use his pie chart :p
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It’s interesting that except for round four, which split the bomber vote, the votes seemed to be in the same order: B-25, P-39, A-29 & Yak. The Me-410 & He-111 swapped places in rounds 1 & 2.
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By the way, B-25's can't takeoff of carriers. :t
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Originally posted by WMDnow
By the way, B-25's can't takeoff of carriers. :t
Sure they can, you just have to land on a carrier first.
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Close one!
Congrats B-25 fans. Toad, I hope to see your fathers B-25 in the game soon. I'm not a bomber guy, but I think the B-25 is a great choice.
Eskimo, I hope to see your Father in Laws P-39 someday soon as well
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:lol pyro let the B25s off the CV...i want to collect the proxies as they hit the water:O :t :D :noid
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Nowe MeH can Do tEh flInG o0F caREarerz, liek bEN aaafLaK!
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LOL...
I guess this means half the community is out of their friken minds..
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Originally posted by Shifty
Eskimo, I hope to see your Father in Laws P-39 someday soon as well
Since he flew in the Army Air Force Western Training Command, I was planning on skinning his plane specifically for the TA. I hope he's around long enough to see it.
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We’re getting many reports from the Early War fighter set who had trouble manipulating the voting mechanism. They have stated that text was too small for their aging eyes and the background color made it difficult to see their mouse cursor. Voting errors may have cost the P-39 the win. Many are demanding a recount.
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Hurri up and get those 25's in the game... I'll get my 30mm's shined up and ready to go...
like the man said 2 weeks of many more buff targets.....
yummie
CHOMP CHOMP
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Maybe I read Pyro's original post, but I thought we were going to be voting for 2 new aircraft.
If so, can we still get the P39? Or are we going to go through another torturous round of voting ?
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Originally posted by soda72
I guess this means half the community is out of their friken minds..
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Originally posted by eskimo2
We’re getting many reports from the Early War fighter set who had trouble manipulating the voting mechanism. They have stated that text was too small for their aging eyes and the background color made it difficult to see their mouse cursor. Voting errors may have cost the P-39 the win. Many are demanding a recount.
We also have reports from the Mid-War area that there were reports of hanging chads on some of the ballots.
Less than one percent difference equals statistically no difference - a tie!
Since they were in a statistical tie, I believe that HTC could head off the inevitable lawsuits that are coming regarding the prejudiced voting practices, faulty ballot equipment, etc., by announcing that we will get both the P-39 and the B-25.
In addition, by way of compensatory damages, he should give the Finns the Brewster Buffalo that they have lobbied so long and hard for.:aok
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Keep that talk up and I'm callin Katherine Harris in Florida.....
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you know that vote was SOOOOO close....
why not just put both P-39 and B-25 in the game?
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I would like to thank everyone for being adult during this whole process and not whining or calling name--
Wait. Nevermind.
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i wouldn't mind waiting longer for 2.11 if we got both, if waffle could be arsed :D
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In a game called Aces High the friggin' bomber won?
Oh for cryin' out loud!:furious
That damn Mitchell better be able to out-loop a spitIX....
Magoo
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Originally posted by Magoo
In a game called Aces High the friggin' bomber won?
Oh for cryin' out loud!:furious
That damn Mitchell better be able to out-loop a spitIX....
Magoo
ACES high. Bombers low.
What's the confusion?
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Originally posted by Puck
That would also tell you roughly how many subscribers they have. Unintended consequences.
Only how many subscribers logged in and voted in during that week. Add in the uncertaintly of how many voted in all rounds versus just one and getting even a strong indication of how many pay their monthly dues would be nothing more than a guess.
If that number is actually something you're interested in just check the score pages, they'll show how many people recorded at least one sortie in each of the 5 categories if you do it "right". Of course again, that is just for one tour and you have no idea how many folks pay that will go 30 dyas or more without loggin in. I know I have in the past.
EDIT: four categories...duh!
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Simply a reflection of the changing demographics of the game. The fact that a bomber won a popular vote is a sad statement of the overall direction of the game.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Man with that close of a margin, maybe they should do both of them considering they both had real strong support right off the bat.
Pyro,
I completely agree with the above. The voting was extremely close. What would we as subscribers that want to see the Iron Dog have to do to get it into 2.11?
Cheers:aok
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Originally posted by WMDnow
By the way, B-25's can't takeoff of carriers. :t
Sure they can, take out all the defensive armament. This should be enabled immediately :D
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So if I fly the Mitchell can I knock-up Kate Beckinsale like in the movie?:p
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Originally posted by Magoo
So if I fly the Mitchell can I knock-up Kate Beckinsale like in the movie?:p
It’s a virtual game, so I guess you can do that virtually as well.
Here you go, just print it out and cut holes where needed:
(http://www.leninimports.com/kate_beckinsale_gallery_7.jpg)
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Men r pigs!!!!
Isn't it great being a man
:t horny devil<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Give that woman a rake, and after shes done tell her to bring me a beer. Ill be on that comfy lookin chair.
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WTG everyone that voted B-25! The Dickweeds ( DHBG ) will be doing their annual Doolittle Raid memorial mission tue night. This is great, as this week is the anniversary!!
See you in the skies!
http://www.doolittletokyoraiders.com/
:D
(http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/st/~magneson/doolittle.gif)[(http://www.doolittletokyoraiders.com/assets/01.jpg)
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shifty
my thoughts exactly
Was very interesting to look at the stats though.
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My prediction came true!
Sweet!
Looking forward to flying with Toad's dad!
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YAWN!
Behold - another Hangar Queen is Born. :rolleyes:
Man, I am telling you that R/C Racing Boat hobby is looking better and better.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Sure they can...
Only in a head wind.
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Originally posted by thndregg
Only in a head wind.
I have 5 bucks that says I'll be able to land it on a CV and take off again with a full load.
Any takers???
By the way I've taken a B-24 off of a CV in game with 50% fuel and full bomb load of 1000lbrs. B-25 will be easy.
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I was really hoping for the P-39, but the B-25 is a very cool plane, especially the H. In Warbirds the H model was a blast to fly.
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HTC,
Just incase you decide to have mercy upon that .4% margin of loss.:D Can we get a skin for 100th FS P-39Q "Quanto Costa" flown by Samuel Curtis:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v126/JeevesFC/100_1248.jpg)
Thanks a million...
Cheers:aok
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So the list of American bombers will now read: -
A-20G
B-17G
B-24J
B-25
B-26B
Boston Mk III
SBD-5
TBM-3
Oh joy! another 4 or 5 and we can start think about adding something interesting!
;) :t
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Yeah, something INteresting, like another -109.
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-14
Bf 109K-4
Sheesh... 6 models of the same basic fighter airframe. How very boring, eh?
:p
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Originally posted by Toad
Sheesh... 6 models of the same basic fighter airframe. How very boring, eh?
:p
I agree. Lets remove 5 of them and leave the Luftwhiners with the E-4 only to cover 1939 - 1945... :t
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Let's take everything out except one fighter and one bomber from each combatant country! That'd be fair, right?
:p
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Great idea! Every country apart from America. We need more American planes, not less!
We will need targets though, maybe we can paint American planes to play the role of the baddies?
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Originally posted by Jester
YAWN!
Man, I am telling you that R/C Racing Boat hobby is looking better and better.
Don't let the door hit you in...well...you get the idea.
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Take two of these and call me in the morning.
:cry :cry
I hope you feel better soon!
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Originally posted by Toad
Let's take everything out except one fighter and one bomber from each combatant country! That'd be fair, right?
:p
Why from each country? One fighter, one bomber, one vehicle.
I vote for:
Hurricane Mk 1
B-24J
Jeep
Early, mid, and late war, all covered.
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Originally posted by Toad
Take two of these and call me in the morning.
:cry :cry
I hope you feel better soon!
Can i get a hug towdy-wowdy?
Please pass me my blankey too :cry
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Originally posted by Toad
Yeah, something INteresting, like another -109.
Bf 109E-4
Bf 109F-4
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-14
Bf 109K-4
Sheesh... 6 models of the same basic fighter airframe. How very boring, eh?
:p
Oh man just when it looked like it was about to run out of steam. You opened up a whole new can of Eurowhine.;)
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I like 'em all.
You wouldn't have heard me cry if the P-39 or anything else had won.
Someday, I hope every single one of the WW2 aircraft are in the game.
I'm just raggin' Ball... he knows it.... he's just raggin' me... I know it.
:)
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Yay, votings over, now HT can work on the new model, get it behind them and on to the one after that.
Frankly, I would have liked to see them just build what they wanted. They can't win. Had the P39 won, with margins this close the B25 guys would have been up in arms and they Still would have been fielding complaints.
Great effort on their part trying to engage the community though, standing in front of a crowd After you passed out free rocks and tomatoes takes some brass.
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Suc up!
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Originally posted by Jester
YAWN!
Behold - another Hangar Queen is Born. :rolleyes:
Man, I am telling you that R/C Racing Boat hobby is looking better and better.
Cya!
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Originally posted by ROC
Yay, votings over, now HT can work on the new model, get it behind them and on to the one after that.
Frankly, I would have liked to see them just build what they wanted. They can't win. Had the P39 won, with margins this close the B25 guys would have been up in arms and they Still would have been fielding complaints.
Great effort on their part trying to engage the community though, standing in front of a crowd After you passed out free rocks and tomatoes takes some brass.
:rofl :lol :rofl :lol
Cheers:aok
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Pyro,
Thanks for posting the results and pie charts. I love stats and found the results interesting.
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Originally posted by ROC
standing in front of a crowd After you passed out free rocks
Oh, alright. I'll take two points, two flats, and a packet of gravel...
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Originally posted by Jester
Behold - another Hangar Queen is Born. :rolleyes:
and this is based on?
ack-ack
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Ack, the evaluative mechanism of many is broken. Forunately, the "ignore and buddy lists" work great :aok
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Appears as though there may be a few hanging "chads" Darn near election results ;)
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Yay! As someone who finds the occasional fun out of the bomber/attack aspect of the game I'm looking forward to this. The B-25 will serve as an unrivaled weapons platform with which to blow stuff up with. Can't wait. With that said, I certainly would still like to see the P-39.
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Originally posted by Hornet33
I have 5 bucks that says I'll be able to land it on a CV and take off again with a full load.
Any takers???
By the way I've taken a B-24 off of a CV in game with 50% fuel and full bomb load of 1000lbrs. B-25 will be easy.
I can land & take off in a loaded Lanc.. so there :p
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Holy Cow! That was close!
Do em both! :)
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Originally posted by sullie363
The B-25 will serve as an unrivaled weapons platform with which to blow stuff up with. Can't wait.
I'd be interested in knowing the performance specs and load-outs on the B-25 version you expect on seeing added which constitutes an "unrivaled weapons platform" for AHII.
(http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/sign0167.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com)
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Originally posted by Shuffler
I can land & take off in a loaded Lanc.. so there :p
It's really not that difficult in this game. it's possible to take off and land on the carrier in every aircraft. even the Arado.
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Originally posted by tedrbr
I'd be interested in knowing the performance specs and load-outs on the B-25 version you expect on seeing added which constitutes an "unrivaled weapons platform" for AHII.
(http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/sign0167.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com)
Lasers, catapults and chain guns.
Don't you know? The B-25X.
Sheesh.
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What a perfect demonstration of why not to involve the "community" in the development of a product. It would be a good joke if it weren't such a waste of time. ;)
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Nice presentation, Pyro, thanks. Since that was virtually a tie and the P-39 led the previous round, why not do both? Or at least promise the P-39 next without need for another vote?
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Originally posted by daddog
Holy Cow! That was close!
Do em both! :)
Got my vote DD! Eh Pyro?
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Originally posted by VWE
Can you give us total numbers of votes cast Pyro?
you dont need them, all you have to do is assume that the only people who voted for the russian bomber and G55 use the BBS, go to the exit poll thread, count the votes, compare one against the other to get your margin of error, and work from there...easy.
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Originally posted by 68slayr
:lol pyro let the B25s off the CV...i want to collect the proxies as they hit the water:O :t :D :noid
If they take off from the CV, they have to leave all thier guns behind and min fuel so they can take off right?
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Originally posted by vorticon
you dont need them, all you have to do is assume that the only people who voted for the russian bomber and G55 use the BBS, go to the exit poll thread, count the votes, compare one against the other to get your margin of error, and work from there...easy.
Or you could just pull a random number out of your butt, which would be about as accurate as your method. :)
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I just want to know who won the HTC office pool.
:)
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B-25 wins 4 out of the 5 rounds and we still have people complaining about it?
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B-25 wins 4 out of the 5 rounds and we still have people complaining about it?
Some one would complain if people stopped complaining.
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Originally posted by ROC
Some one would complain if people stopped complaining.
:D
A Good One ROC!
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Yea Quitch!
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Glad the B25 won. I voted for it in the last round. Much as I'd like another fighter. I don't think the P39 would get the use it deserves, just like the P40 and other similar interesting but less capable fighters. It will simply be an exhibit in the hangar.
On the other hand the B25 will be used and will be popular particularly if they model an attack variant.
Best of all though it will be an easy kill in exactly the same way the Mosquito and A20 are because it will be used down low unlike the B17's etc.:t