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Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 12:18:47 PM
I have read in past forums that people from my squad have been accused of spawning  into enemy hangers with there Gv's.

I have yet to see anyone in this game from any country or squad spawn into an enemy hanger.

If anyone from my squad is in the hanger it's because they drove into it. I have however seen guys spawn into their own hangers with their turrets pointed in my direction while I was camping inside their hanger, or a shot fired from an invisible tank. I attribute this to Internet connection and all the other unexplainable glitches in the game.

I wish I could spawn into an enemy's hanger, that would cut down on all the mind numbing hours a month I spend driving to a base.

Just a friendly message to those few who actually think that hanger spawning is being done. My advice to the accuser(s) is ,  learn the game on what can and can't be done before running to Scuzzy with every conspiracy theory you have.

to all those who insist on reupping 20 times in a row in an occupied Vhanger. You make my day, lol
:aok
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: pondo22 on April 09, 2007, 01:05:51 PM
"S> to all those who insist on reupping 20 times in a row in an occupied Vhanger. You make my day, lol "

Nice

Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Husky01 on April 09, 2007, 01:08:49 PM
:huh  Ok first off.....................No this isn't even worth it.........



Anyone got popcorn? and a few drinks?
 

Cause Im gonna have to watch this one.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: tedrbr on April 09, 2007, 01:11:56 PM
What they are probably seeing the the enemy GV fading into view when they pull up the hangar view.

When you spawn into the game, or go to the hangar which has an enemy GV sitting in it's "sniper position", you don't see all the enemy in the area all at once.  The fade it or pop into view, usually from closer in to further out.

People not understanding the game mechanics.  There was a complaint a few days ago about "cheater" spawning planes in VH's.... near as I could tell it was about people taking planes from hangars rather than on the runways..... must have been messing up the guys vulch.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 01:13:34 PM
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Originally posted by Husky01
:huh  Ok first off.....................No this isn't even worth it.........



Anyone got popcorn? and a few drinks?
 

Cause Im gonna half to watch this one.


That would be have to !:p
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 09, 2007, 01:14:47 PM
Its nice to see that people admit to this supidity....parking in enemy hangers. If your that hard up for kills, more power to ya. I suppose its your $15.  :(

Learn some skills ! WWIIOL has a great tank war.... well they did a while back when I did give them a try. I spend most of my time in fighters looking for fights. On the other hand, if the spawn camping and hiding in enemy hangers wasn't possible I think running GV battle would be a blast here!

Help clean up the spawn camping and cheap play and it could be more fun for a lot more people.
Title: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 09, 2007, 01:16:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BigPlay
I have read in past forums that people from my squad have been accused of spawning  into enemy hangers with there Gv's.

I have yet to see anyone in this game from any country or squad spawn into an enemy hanger.

If anyone from my squad is in the hanger it's because they drove into it. I have however seen guys spawn into their own hangers with their turrets pointed in my direction while I was camping inside their hanger, or a shot fired from an invisible tank. I attribute this to Internet connection and all the other unexplainable glitches in the game.

I wish I could spawn into an enemy's hanger, that would cut down on all the mind numbing hours a month I spend driving to a base.

Just a friendly message to those few who actually think that hanger spawning is being done. My advice to the accuser(s) is ,  learn the game on what can and can't be done before running to Scuzzy with every conspiracy theory you have.

to all those who insist on reupping 20 times in a row in an occupied Vhanger. You make my day, lol
:aok



99.999% of those that cry "CHEAT" do so because they are just too stupid to realize that they 1) suck or 2) have no idea how they died so to their tiny little under developed brain, it means the other guy cheated.

The exception is the 708th Rolling Thunder.  They are just idiots that cry cheater and spy.

If they keep bothering you and your squadron on Channel 200 with their accusations, report them.  HT looks down upon those that make false cheat reports as they do on those that cheat.


ack-ack
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Husky01 on April 09, 2007, 01:18:21 PM
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That would be have to !
 


Fixed.

Now about that popcorn!
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 01:31:20 PM
I play mainly EW and only hanger camp when taking a base,  or do you feel that base taking is another skill less  aspect of the game. If you ever have been to LW tank town you'll know spawn camping is alive and well and practised by everyone.

I dont bring a knife to a gun fight, so any means available to capture a base successfully I will use and if that means hanger camping so be it. Tell me ..... is there any difference in hanger camping or getting kills on a deacked, capped base vulching?
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: 5PointOh on April 09, 2007, 01:42:19 PM
Recipe For Spawn Camper Pie at TT:

3 Lancs 1000ft agl
42 1000lb bombs
2 of your county men to set smoke on cluster of campers
1 attached gunner (with skill)


and blamo-->8 dead spawn campers and 2 fighters down.




Life is Good!!  

Add that to the popcorn order. Youll love it
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 01:56:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
Its nice to see that people admit to this supidity....parking in enemy hangers. If your that hard up for kills, more power to ya. I suppose its your $15.  :(

Learn some skills ! WWIIOL has a great tank war.... well they did a while back when I did give them a try. I spend most of my time in fighters looking for fights. On the other hand, if the spawn camping and hiding in enemy hangers wasn't possible I think running GV battle would be a blast here!

Help clean up the spawn camping and cheap play and it could be more fun for a lot more people.


What do you care about spawn campers your 475th you don't GV,  your squad also doesn't do much base taking.

I checked you GV rating, so someone needs the skill a little more than me
as far as the GVing goes
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 09, 2007, 01:59:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BigPlay

I checked you GV rating, so someone needs the skill a little more than me
as far as the GVing goes



and 9 out of 10 times that assumption is wrong.  Just sayin'.


ack-ack
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Hoarach on April 09, 2007, 02:05:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BigPlay
What do you care about spawn campers your 475th you don't GV,  your squad also doesn't do much base taking.

I checked you GV rating, so someone needs the skill a little more than me
as far as the GVing goes


GV!?!?!?!?! Thats when a 38 has its wheels down and just cruising around on the grass right? :huh
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: tzr on April 09, 2007, 02:06:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BigPlay


I checked you GV rating, so someone needs the skill a little more than me
as far as the GVing goes



You mean he needs to get better at spawn camping:huh
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Hornet33 on April 09, 2007, 02:11:04 PM
Well gee isn't this a fun thread? Spawn campers are bad!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAA:cry :cry :cry


Like in the real war no tank EVER fired from a hidden position or parked where it had a commanding view of the enemy's aproach route.

Ambush is the only way to fight a ground war and you use evey available advantage you can to stay alive.

Such is life. I'll camp an area all day long if I'm in a good spot to kill red guys.:aok
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 02:20:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by tzr
You mean he needs to get better at spawn camping:huh


It's a start...... Then he can become one of us skill less dweebs that wreck the game.

:lol
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 09, 2007, 02:29:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Hornet33
Well gee isn't this a fun thread? Spawn campers are bad!!!!! WHAAAAAAAAA:cry :cry :cry


Like in the real war no tank EVER fired from a hidden position or parked where it had a commanding view of the enemy's aproach route.

Ambush is the only way to fight a ground war and you use evey available advantage you can to stay alive.

Such is life. I'll camp an area all day long if I'm in a good spot to kill red guys.:aok


Firering from a hidden position isn't what we are talking about...well not what Im talking about. In most cases if you fire from there I'll have a chance at defending myself.... well maybe not if its an LTAR, those guys are deadly  :) There is the challange of surviving,  finding the enemy, ranging, and getting off a shot or two.

In the case of a spawn camp you don't stand a chance. People only get me once in a spawn camp, I just don't up again, and most times warn about the campers hoping to spoil there fun by stopping others from upping.

As to my skill in a GV your right, I'm not real good, spend very little time in them, mostly because there is no fun in getting blown-up before my engine gets started. On the other hand, if a GV couldn't fire its main gun with in rage of a spawn, I think you might see more GVers running around.

But like I said, if you need the kill count so bad, go for it, but you'll only get me once  ;)
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: ROC on April 09, 2007, 03:02:53 PM
For every 1 guy that sneaks into an enemy hanger there is an entire side that let him.

Base flashing?  Better go look.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: TinmanX on April 09, 2007, 03:21:42 PM
I up in camped hangers. Just recently I dropped supplies to two enemy Tigers camping my hanger after I tracked one and smoked the other just so I could kill them all over again.

It's fun and as the phrase goes; "It's my $15"
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 03:43:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
Firering from a hidden position isn't what we are talking about...well not what Im talking about. In most cases if you fire from there I'll have a chance at defending myself.... well maybe not if its an LTAR, those guys are deadly  :) There is the challange of surviving,  finding the enemy, ranging, and getting off a shot or two.

In the case of a spawn camp you don't stand a chance. People only get me once in a spawn camp, I just don't up again, and most times warn about the campers hoping to spoil there fun by stopping others from upping.

As to my skill in a GV your right, I'm not real good, spend very little time in them, mostly because there is no fun in getting blown-up before my engine gets started. On the other hand, if a GV couldn't fire its main gun with in rage of a spawn, I think you might see more GVers running around.

But like I said, if you need the kill count so bad, go for it, but you'll only get me once  ;)


Who doesn't want more kills...... , but needing them is another thing. I don't need more kills in order to have fun, killing people is fun and kill count is a biproduct of killing people. There would be no point in hanger camping if nobody upped but people still do, is that ruining the game ? It is part of taking a Vbase . If you dont want you CV sunk, then have a cap over it, but most don't and end up complaining about people that sink their CV. If you don't want you hanger camped then protect it. Like I said vulching a capped base is the same thing and everyone knows that the 475th can cap and vulch a base better than anyone. I'm not complaining  that it wrecks the game, I understand it's part of it. Trust me when I tell you that spawn camping in TT isn't keeping people out of TT. That place is swarming with fresh meat. If you don't like spawn campers in TT than make the long drive to TT from your Vbase. Improvise your tactics to deal with it. Just like I would concerning a capped field.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 09, 2007, 04:04:04 PM
Not everyone in the 475th vulches, I can't speak for everyone else, but its not what I go looking for, tho if the opportunity arises  :)

I'm out for the "fight" there is nothing better than fighting a guy 1 vs 1 at 10k working for the angel, that one shot thats going to down your foe.

Of course you'll never know that feeling as you sit there spawn camping and take the biggest part of the fight out of the equation, the chance to loose.

To me the kills are unimportant, its the trill of the fight, but to you that "total" has to look good on the score board so you spawn camp. Good luck ! I hope you top the score chart some day !























does anyone know where the score pages are ???     :huh
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 09, 2007, 04:40:45 PM
Dude, I said I spawn camp vhangers to secure the hangers on a base take. They are not undefended. I generally have to fight my way to them. It isn't a matter of just rolling into a hanger to get kills, it's to secure the hangers from enemy spawning GV's. IT"S ABOUT TAKING A BASE ,  not getting kills. If you read my posts I explained that from the start. It's about giving a goon a chance to get in unmolested from other GV's. I fight plenty of foes 1 on 1. I have been in many GV battles where the enemy has camped our spawn and I have had to fight all the way to the hangers, many times killing the same guy more than once and many times getting killed.

I can't help to explain it any easier . If you can't wrap your brain around the concept, sorry. Think whatever you want but don't start calling people score mongers when you don't understand GVing. It is simply a tactic for success, that's it. Ew is very diferent from LW so unless you GV and do it in EW don't go making asumptions about one's motives. I don't tell you how to fly a P-38 do I ? That's because you know how to and I don't. So don't try to tell me what I do is lame or skill less. You would be one of the last to know.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Yknurd on April 09, 2007, 04:45:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
Of course you'll never know that feeling as you sit there spawn camping and take the biggest part of the fight out of the equation, the chance to loose.

To me the kills are unimportant, its the trill of the fight, but to you that "total" has to look good on the score board so you spawn camp. Good luck ! I hope you top the score chart some day !
 


Ohhhhh.  You almost had me.  I had a nice quip typed before I realized that this had to be a troll.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BaldEagl on April 09, 2007, 04:50:34 PM
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
Not everyone in the 475th vulches, I can't speak for everyone else, but its not what I go looking for, tho if the opportunity arises  :)

I'm out for the "fight" there is nothing better than fighting a guy 1 vs 1 at 10k working for the angel, that one shot thats going to down your foe.

Of course you'll never know that feeling as you sit there spawn camping and take the biggest part of the fight out of the equation, the chance to loose.

To me the kills are unimportant, its the trill of the fight, but to you that "total" has to look good on the score board so you spawn camp. Good luck ! I hope you top the score chart some day !



does anyone know where the score pages are ???     :huh


I'm #2!, I'm #2!, I'm #2!

Oh, wait... that was last week.

Nevermind.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Shuffler on April 09, 2007, 05:19:33 PM
too too funny... someone camping a spawn and thinking they need to defend their reputation because someone else says they spawn into their hangar.

What reputation  :rofl
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: jaxxo on April 09, 2007, 05:23:08 PM
"Who doesn't want more kills...... , but needing them is another thing. I don't need more kills in order to have fun, killing people is fun and kill count is a biproduct of killing people. There would be no point in hanger camping if nobody upped but people still do, is that ruining the game ? It is part of taking a Vbase . If you dont want you CV sunk, then have a cap over it, but most don't and end up complaining about people that sink their CV. If you don't want you hanger camped then protect it. Like I said vulching a capped base is the same thing and everyone knows that the 475th can cap and vulch a base better than anyone. I'm not complaining that it wrecks the game, I understand it's part of it. Trust me when I tell you that spawn camping in TT isn't keeping people out of TT. That place is swarming with fresh meat. If you don't like spawn campers in TT than make the long drive to TT from your Vbase. Improvise your tactics to deal with it. Just like I would concerning a capped field."
 





(http://www.static3d.com/gaming/bf1942/images/spwncamp.jpg)
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: allmetal on April 09, 2007, 05:30:17 PM
what an idiot.......don`t even know when he`s being insulted.:lol
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 09, 2007, 07:05:00 PM
LOL!! Dude, your the one getting all "prissy" here. Let me ask you this... you can't defend a VH from outside the hanger? Why? is that against some EW arena rule I missed?

Face it, your gaming the game, spawn camping and hiding in an enemy hanger to kill spawning defenders is not a tactic, its just dweebery.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Hornet33 on April 09, 2007, 07:28:26 PM
Oh I don't know....if I can get inside a hanger and then blow them away as soon as they spawn, I'm all over it. You want to know why???


Read my sig.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: storch on April 10, 2007, 06:59:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
Its nice to see that people admit to this supidity....parking in enemy hangers. If your that hard up for kills, more power to ya. I suppose its your $15.  :(

Learn some skills ! WWIIOL has a great tank war.... well they did a while back when I did give them a try. I spend most of my time in fighters looking for fights. On the other hand, if the spawn camping and hiding in enemy hangers wasn't possible I think running GV battle would be a blast here!

Help clean up the spawn camping and cheap play and it could be more fun for a lot more people.
it's a squad full of the most clueless and skilless players in the game.  this is how they attain a low score.  when they do get up the nerve to actually fly they up in hurricanes and circle their ack.  they are the future BoPs, and as such are equally gamey.  but it is their $14.95 so there you have it.  I forgot this part.  when you kill them enough times and if they have sufficient numbers on they .report you as well.  it's part of their training to become future BoPs.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 10, 2007, 11:56:00 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
it's a squad full of the most clueless and skilless players in the game.  this is how they attain a low score.  when they do get up the nerve to actually fly they up in hurricanes and circle their ack.  they are the future BoPs, and as such are equally gamey.  but it is their $14.95 so there you have it.  I forgot this part.  when you kill them enough times and if they have sufficient numbers on they .report you as well.  it's part of their training to become future BoPs.


Now you would'nt be refering to the "Tired Son's " would you  Storch:lol
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Donzo on April 10, 2007, 11:56:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
it's a squad full of the most clueless and skilless players in the game.  this is how they attain a low score.  when they do get up the nerve to actually fly they up in hurricanes and circle their ack.  they are the future BoPs, and as such are equally gamey.  but it is their $14.95 so there you have it.  I forgot this part.  when you kill them enough times and if they have sufficient numbers on they .report you as well.  it's part of their training to become future BoPs.



Stench,

Why the constant slamming of our squad?

Envy?
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Kuhn on April 10, 2007, 01:03:56 PM
Watching thread impartially.   :D
Title: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: nexus69 on April 10, 2007, 01:21:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
The exception is the 708th Rolling Thunder.  They are just idiots that cry cheater and spy.

If they keep bothering you and your squadron on Channel 200 with their accusations, report them.  HT looks down upon those that make false cheat reports as they do on those that cheat.


ack-ack


And we are supposed to take this sitting down? eh?  I guess you already broke 1 or 2 of the rules here but I would not expect anything else from you.

Where is a moderator when you need one?  Oh I get it!. Some people are in cahoots with the big players and also can do incredible things in the arena. You are right what an idiot I'm for not seeing this earlier.  More power to you AcK-AcK and say hello to your ego for me.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Hoarach on April 10, 2007, 01:25:58 PM
Now wait a minute.  Bigplay why are you verbally attacking a squad?  Did this squad do anything to affect you? No I dont believe so.  

You can also cant say that the 475th vulch better than anyone as for myself I hardly ever vulch.  I frown upon a vulch and prefer them to be in the air with an ability to fight back.  

There is no need to attack a squad.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 10, 2007, 02:17:03 PM
No Horach,
I respect what you guys do in a 38 but your squad isn't know for it's Gv prowess. Fugitive acts like he knows what he's talking about. I also don't have a problem with you guy's capping fields and vulching mercilessly., that's the poor fool who keeps respawning when 20+ 38's are overhead.

If you go back a few pages and see what Fugutive posted about calling someone stupid and skill less because someone camps in a Vhanger and calls people kill mongers, that's where a lot of this started. I also never said anything bad about your squad. I just said you guys can cap a field better than anyone else., is that not true?

At this point who cares anymore, it's pure entertainment from here. Points to be made are pointless now so let the mudslinging continue.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Murdr on April 10, 2007, 02:23:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BigPlay
Fugitive acts like he knows what he's talking about. I also don't  

He's been here since 2001, what makes you assume he doesnt know what he's talking about no matter what aspect of game play it is?
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 10, 2007, 02:37:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
LOL!! Dude, your the one getting all "prissy" here. Let me ask you this... you can't defend a VH from outside the hanger? Why? is that against some EW arena rule I missed?

Face it, your gaming the game, spawn camping and hiding in an enemy hanger to kill spawning defenders is not a tactic, its just dweebery.


Because T-34's can't always be killed with one shot from another T-34. (again not like in lLW) There are a few one shot spots on the tank that most know about  (well maybe not everyone) so camping hangers is a way to stop a T-34 everytime with one shot. That's my simple explanation. If your outside you may not get the one shot kill and that puts your goon in a position where it can be killed.

If you don't want people to get pissy then don't call them stupid.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 10, 2007, 02:41:05 PM
most likely because I'm not at the top of the GV score pages at any time Murdr, so I guess I havn't a clue as to what a GV is use for, nor how to use them.

I wasn't slingin mud BigPlay, I was just stating facts. Spawn camping is just a dweebish act done by people who in most case are after nothing but points and there name at the top of the score sheet.

I think the GV game would really take off if HTC limited the main guns on a GV 3k-5k from and spawn point. It would bring in team work from spotters, to killers hiding on a route to a base. Imagne ambusing a tank column trying to make there way into a field. I think it would be some great fun.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 10, 2007, 02:49:36 PM
oh and by the way, I didn't call anyone "stupid". I pointed out the that spawn camping and hiding in enemy hangers was stupid.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Murdr on April 10, 2007, 03:02:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ack-Ack
They are just idiots that cry cheater and spy.

Quick browse here removes any doubt (http://acesforums.com/acesforum/viewforum.php?f=6)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: nexus69 on April 10, 2007, 06:05:03 PM
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Originally posted by Murdr
Quick browse here removes any doubt (http://acesforums.com/acesforum/viewforum.php?f=6)


Hey! thank you for the advertising! How can I repay you?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Lusche on April 10, 2007, 06:18:29 PM
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Originally posted by Murdr
Quick browse here removes any doubt (http://acesforums.com/acesforum/viewforum.php?f=6)


:rofl
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: 5PointOh on April 10, 2007, 11:15:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
I was just stating facts. Spawn camping is just a dweebish act done by people who in most case are after nothing but points and there name at the top of the score sheet.

I think the GV game would really take off if HTC limited the main guns on a GV 3k-5k from and spawn point. It would bring in team work from spotters, to killers hiding on a route to a base. Imagne ambusing a tank column trying to make there way into a field. I think it would be some great fun.


Now that would be great.  :aok
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: SkyRock on April 10, 2007, 11:57:35 PM
Wow!
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: 68Ripper on April 11, 2007, 06:44:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
I think the GV game would really take off if HTC limited the main guns on a GV 3k-5k from and spawn point. It would bring in team work from spotters, to killers hiding on a route to a base. Imagne ambusing a tank column trying to make there way into a field. I think it would be some great fun.


What? so you couldn't shoot at them until they were on your base already?

:O
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 11, 2007, 08:04:43 AM
I'd make it so niether enemy nor friendly could shoot the main gun on the field it self. That would force defenders out into the woods to "hunt" the bad guys. Enemy could still shoot from 3-5k out and destroy hangers and such, but it would give the defenders some room to manuver out and try to find and hit attackers.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: 68Ripper on April 11, 2007, 08:20:43 AM
If that was the case you would have only a narrow field of battle since some spawn points are less than 5k from bases ie pizza map is a good example of that, and the other maps are 5-6k away, you would pretty much limit it to duelling at 50 paces.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 11, 2007, 11:00:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
I'd make it so niether enemy nor friendly could shoot the main gun on the field it self. That would force defenders out into the woods to "hunt" the bad guys. Enemy could still shoot from 3-5k out and destroy hangers and such, but it would give the defenders some room to manuver out and try to find and hit attackers.


So what if a M-16 is at the spawn beyond the 3-5K, does that mean he cant shoot at aircraft overhead since his mg's are his main gun?
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Donzo on April 11, 2007, 11:28:06 AM
Quote
Originally posted by The Fugitive
I'd make it so niether enemy nor friendly could shoot the main gun on the field it self. That would force defenders out into the woods to "hunt" the bad guys. Enemy could still shoot from 3-5k out and destroy hangers and such, but it would give the defenders some room to manuver out and try to find and hit attackers.


So if I up a panzer in the hanger and see a M-3 rolling across the base I have to get into a position to shoot the troops with my MG in order to save the base from being taken?

uh.....no thanks.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 11, 2007, 12:50:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Donzo
Stench,

Why the constant slamming of our squad?

Envy?



Because you guys keep kicking his arse.  If you notice, he always talks crap about those that kick his arse.  It's his way of soothing his tattered ego and try to make himself look good at the same time, which fails miserably at.


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Title: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 11, 2007, 12:56:08 PM
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Originally posted by nexus69
And we are supposed to take this sitting down? eh?  I guess you already broke 1 or 2 of the rules here but I would not expect anything else from you.

Where is a moderator when you need one?  Oh I get it!. Some people are in cahoots with the big players and also can do incredible things in the arena. You are right what an idiot I'm for not seeing this earlier.  More power to you AcK-AcK and say hello to your ego for me.


Sorry if the truth hurts that your squadron is full of a bunch of whiny little twits that cry cheater and spy all in the same breath.  Just the other day,  your squadron of twits were crying how the LTARs were cheaters and you and your squadron constantly whine about how I'm a spy for the Arabian Knights, because after all since I spell my in game handle AKAK, I must be a member of the AKs to your little mind's reasoning and therefore a spy.

Take your squadron back to the TA with the little kiddies where you guys belong.


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Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Yknurd on April 11, 2007, 01:01:50 PM
lols
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Kuhn on April 11, 2007, 01:32:39 PM
:)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Hoarach on April 11, 2007, 01:35:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Sorry if the truth hurts that your squadron is full of a bunch if whiny little twits that cry cheater and spy all in the same breath.  Just the other day,  your squadron of twits were crying how the LTARs were cheaters and you and your squadron constantly whine about how I'm a spy for the Arabian Knights, because after all since I spell my in game handle AKAK, I must be a member of the AKs to your little mind's reasoning and therefore a spy.

Take your squadron back to the TA with the little kiddies where you guys belong.


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:rofl :lol :rofl :lol
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 11, 2007, 01:42:27 PM
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
I'd make it so niether enemy nor friendly could shoot the main gun on the field it self. That would force defenders out into the woods to "hunt" the bad guys. Enemy could still shoot from 3-5k out and destroy hangers and such, but it would give the defenders some room to manuver out and try to find and hit attackers.


Would it also include the GV that just spawned?  Otherwise the GV will just stay in the spawn point and fire his main gun while those within range of the spawn point can't.  

I wouldn't mind seeing a 30 second "invulnerability" state for those that spawn to give them a chance to get out of the danger spot so they don't get camped.


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Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 11, 2007, 02:13:06 PM
Sure, nobody can fire a main gun near a spawn point. Shortten the distance up a bit 1500, 2k. All it would do is give the spawning GV a bit of a fighting chance, make it a battle instead of a party of clubbing baby seals.

Pretty much anything has got to be better than what we have now. 6 guys sitting side by side all waiting for that first flicker of a spawning GV and then BLAM !! 6 guns fire and everyone waits to see who gets the "kill" this time. Exciting huh  :huh
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Lusche on April 11, 2007, 02:14:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Would it also include the GV that just spawned?  Otherwise the GV will just stay in the spawn point and fire his main gun while those within range of the spawn point can't.  

I wouldn't mind seeing a 30 second "invulnerability" state for those that spawn to give them a chance to get out of the danger spot so they don't get camped.


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Or HT could make camping an enemy Vfield much more difficult by just changing the system that way, that you will spawn randomly in any of the three hangars.
And maybe the VField layout could be changed at the same time, so that the three hangars are more dispersed. So both dropping all 3 hangars at once as well as camping the field with just one tank would be impossible.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Kuhn on April 11, 2007, 02:19:16 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Or HT could make camping an enemy Vfield much more difficult by just changing the system that way, that you will spawn randomly in any of the three hangars.
And maybe the VField layout could be changed at the same time, so that the three hangars are more dispersed. So both dropping all 3 hangars at once as well as camping the field with just one tank would be impossible.


I like that idea.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: nexus69 on April 11, 2007, 02:22:06 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Sorry if the truth hurts that your squadron is full of a bunch of whiny little twits that cry cheater and spy all in the same breath.  Just the other day,  your squadron of twits were crying how the LTARs were cheaters and you and your squadron constantly whine about how I'm a spy for the Arabian Knights, because after all since I spell my in game handle AKAK, I must be a member of the AKs to your little mind's reasoning and therefore a spy.

Take your squadron back to the TA with the little kiddies where you guys belong.


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You are really  paranoid. No one in my squad said that. I guess you just imagined it. BOOOOO! the boogeyman is going to accuse you!
:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

I just "P" my pants
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 11, 2007, 02:46:45 PM
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Originally posted by nexus69
You are really  paranoid. No one in my squad said that. I guess you just imagined it. BOOOOO! the boogeyman is going to accuse you!
:rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl  :rofl

I just "P" my pants


Tell that to BGsam, BGCowboy, BGTazz, Stang67 or any of the other twits in your squadron.  Those were just a couple that were crying how the LTARs are cheaters and how I'm a "spy".  

BGsam and Stang67 even told me to post on your forums and present my case so they "could look into my claims of innocense."  LMAO


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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: E25280 on April 11, 2007, 09:39:03 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Sorry if the truth hurts that your squadron is full of a bunch of whiny little twits that cry cheater and spy all in the same breath.  Just the other day,  your squadron of twits were crying how the LTARs were cheaters and you and your squadron constantly whine about how I'm a spy for the Arabian Knights, because after all since I spell my in game handle AKAK, I must be a member of the AKs to your little mind's reasoning and therefore a spy.

Take your squadron back to the TA with the little kiddies where you guys belong.


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Ahhh . . . the "C" accusation.  Must mean we did something right.   :D
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: nexus69 on April 12, 2007, 11:05:33 AM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Tell that to BGsam, BGCowboy, BGTazz, Stang67 or any of the other twits in your squadron.  Those were just a couple that were crying how the LTARs are cheaters and how I'm a "spy".  

BGsam and Stang67 even told me to post on your forums and present my case so they "could look into my claims of innocense."  LMAO


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OMG! you are really paranoid!!!  and just to prove that you are a pathological lier too, BGCowboy left the squad months! ago.. as per what BGsam,stang67 and BGTazz told you it is not even close of what you are saying. I was reading the conversation in 200. Or you forgot that I was there?

We really don't care if you or your buddies don't play fair or want to have an advantage over everyone else, really trust me WE DON'T CARE! more power to you!.

But do me a favor. If you or your buddies use your special advantage in the game against us, do expect us to say something about. so take it like a man.

Capice!?
Entiendes!?
Comprehend!?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 12, 2007, 12:41:01 PM
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Originally posted by nexus69

But do me a favor. If you or your buddies use your special advantage in the game against us, do expect us to say something about. so take it like a man.



Too funny but enough in the MA have heard the whines from the 708th Rolling Flatulence to know that you and your band of morons are nothing but whiners and all you guys do is cry that the person that just killed you was a cheater or if you're not successful in capturing a base, you accuse others of being a spy.  

Like I said, the TA is just two doors down the hallway on your left.  That arena is more your speed.  Enjoy.


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Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: nexus69 on April 12, 2007, 01:33:24 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
Too funny but enough in the MA have heard the whines from the 708th Rolling Flatulence to know that you and your band of morons are nothing but whiners and all you guys do is cry that the person that just killed you was a cheater or if you're not successful in capturing a base, you accuse others of being a spy.  

Like I said, the TA is just two doors down the hallway on your left.  That arena is more your speed.  Enjoy.


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Are you starting to repeat yourself? Try to be more original next time...
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ghastly on April 12, 2007, 02:20:49 PM
The most effective way to prevent spawn point camping would be to prevent spawning in in the first place if there is an enemy vehicle within a certain radius of the spawn point.

Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Lusche on April 12, 2007, 02:37:54 PM
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Originally posted by Ghastly
The most effective way to prevent spawn point camping would be to prevent spawning in in the first place if there is an enemy vehicle within a certain radius of the spawn point.



So to save my V field i just have to drive to the enemies spawnpoint and voila!: No more M3s spawning to capture it. That's even better than spawncamping :D
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ghastly on April 12, 2007, 03:10:20 PM
I didn't say it was necessarily the best game-play solution - just that it would most effectively prevent camping.  And besides, many players do it not for "the war effort" but so they can see that "eleventybillion dweebkills by xxxx of yyyy" in the buffer.  If they want the kills, they'd have to stay far enough from the spawn point to allow spawning, which if done properly would give the spawners a fair chance.

And the argument that they should have stopped you before you got close enough for a "deathless suppression" has it's own merit.

However, perhaps a more reasonable way to address the issue would be to have an "Enemy units detected within firing range, are you sure you want to launch?"  prompt come up when you click to spawn.  

The issue with getting spawncamped for me (caveat, I fly not ground in AH so I don't have to deal with it here, so I'm refering to when it happened in "that other game")  was that there was no warning that I was launching into someones crosshairs.  

It was always click, loading..., black screen - skull and crossbones.  

Usually followed by obscenity, leave game and go do something else.

Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Yknurd on April 12, 2007, 03:21:30 PM
Driving onto an enemy vehicle base, killing ack, fighting my way through enemy tanks, and finally into the vehicle hanger to prevent further enemy tanks from upping while someone gets an m-3 to the maproom.  Dweeb-tardish.

Check.

The Elitist Moral Minority has spoken.
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 12, 2007, 07:31:27 PM
if we were the minority, there wouldn't be enough room in the hanger for the "majority"  LOL!!  luckily there are only a few spoiling the it, but the funny thing was a few of them coming in here to brag about there "skills"
Title: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Spawning into hangers
Post by: E25280 on April 12, 2007, 08:10:52 PM
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Originally posted by nexus69
But do me a favor. If you or your buddies use your special advantage in the game against us, do expect us to say something about.
Yes, AKAK, how dare you have the "special advantage" of patiently climbing to high altitude, and then using your plane's boom and zoom capability to full effect!  You know full well the average AH player does not possess such patience!  Yet you insist on using that advantage against the rest of us!  Shame on you!  Shame, I say!
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: BigPlay on April 13, 2007, 04:56:42 PM
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Originally posted by The Fugitive
if we were the minority, there wouldn't be enough room in the hanger for the "majority"  LOL!!  luckily there are only a few spoiling the it, but the funny thing was a few of them coming in here to brag about there "skills"


I thought that this would just  fizzle out ,but  the constant banter from Fugitive about people padding their scores and chest thumping won't let it happen.

Make all the accusations you want about people you never even met in the game and  your opinion about how someone should play the game. Funny how people like you that play this game can make statements like their some kind of expert on gaming and have it all together in their lives when in reality live in some back woods state where it's a buck ten outside with same humidity calling everyone a dweeb, tard, noob or what ever other Oklahoma terms come to their mind because that $14.95 gives them the power to.

SKILLS who gives a crap about what my skills are or are not. My game skills don't show up on my resume , pay my bills or make my life better.  It's a game to me not my life. I play it for fun not to establish my pecking order in the world.  Ask yourself one question Fugitive, are your AH skills ever going to get you out of that trailer in the Ozarks., is it ever going to get you a date with your cousin ? Your answer is probably no, but you are better than me because you play the game with honor.

Get a life !
Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 13, 2007, 05:04:01 PM
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Originally posted by BigPlay
are your AH skills ever going to get you out of that trailer in the Ozarks.,  



Well, speaking for myself, all the jobs I've had in the last 15 years were a direct result of me playing computer games.  


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Title: Spawning into hangers
Post by: The Fugitive on April 14, 2007, 10:16:44 AM
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Originally posted by BigPlay
I thought that this would just  fizzle out ,but  the constant banter from Fugitive about people padding their scores and chest thumping won't let it happen.

Make all the accusations you want about people you never even met in the game and  your opinion about how someone should play the game. Funny how people like you that play this game can make statements like their some kind of expert on gaming and have it all together in their lives when in reality live in some back woods state where it's a buck ten outside with same humidity calling everyone a dweeb, tard, noob or what ever other Oklahoma terms come to their mind because that $14.95 gives them the power to.

SKILLS who gives a crap about what my skills are or are not. My game skills don't show up on my resume , pay my bills or make my life better.  It's a game to me not my life. I play it for fun not to establish my pecking order in the world.  Ask yourself one question Fugitive, are your AH skills ever going to get you out of that trailer in the Ozarks., is it ever going to get you a date with your cousin ? Your answer is probably no, but you are better than me because you play the game with honor.

Get a life !


Well now, at no point did I attack you personally, nor did I ever say I "knew you" and here you are trying to sound all high and mighty trying to personally attack me and my life! Guess I hit a nerve !!!

 Just so you "know me" I live in New England, have worked at the same company for 23 years and am now the head of our Technician help division. I own my own home on a sweet little 11 acre lot a mile and a half out of town. I have a wife and 2 sons, both in collage. I'm a vet and served 3 years on board the USS Dwight D. Eisenhower CVN69 of which I'm a "plank owner" ( look it up). There, you can use that info for your next attack.

As for what I posted about spawn camping and hiding in the enemies VH  to camp there being  a dweebish and score horing  style of game play is nothing personal, it just a cheap way to play the game and shows no skill. Prove Im wrong.

To try and prove I'm right think about this, I suck in GV's I have a hard time finding the enemy, and my aim sucks. However, should I get into a position over looking a spawn area, I can kill just about anyone and everyone who spawns there, I don't care how skilled they are, they will be easy pickins even for me. So does that make me a "skilled" GVer? Nope, just another dweeb clubbing seals.

You told me to "get a life", check my times in the game and you'll see unfortunaely I have too much life going on right now, but it doen't take long to keep up with the boards, and its almost as much fun as flying !   :aok