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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Black Sheep on April 09, 2007, 01:49:58 PM
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Since last Wednesday's broadcast, He's taken alot of heat from the media, well mostly the African American media and equal rights groups for his 'Nappy headed ho's' comment against the Rutgers all black women basketball team.
I'd like to know what part of his statement is racial? I know it's a demeaning and derrogatory statement against any woman to say that. And being in the broadcasting business, he should have a bit more sense before he opens his mouth.
But where did that phrase birth itself? Perhaps from the same community that is now condemning it? I don't know but that seems likely. The same eubonics and mindset where it's absolutely OK to call your brother or sister in skin anything you want, but let someone else of color do it and it's automatically offensive...
And Al Sharpton is all over this too now - he has nothing better to do than to promote himself - :rolleyes:
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While the situation itself has blown up larger then the size of the problem (if there really is one), I've always suspected that Don Imus was borderline mentally retarded.
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Yeah he definitely is borderline.
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I think he has gone beyond pissing off a race, I think he has pissed off all female athletes in general. Calling the game "the jigaboos versus the wannabes" I think is what will get him fired. If women started boycotting MSNBC/NBC/GE in mass then he would be gone yesterday.
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Originally posted by Black Sheep
I'd like to know what part of his statement is racial?
Ask someone who's up on it and who is angry.
As far as Don Imus, I don't know what will happen to him.
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how bout, I dont know, and I dont care ;)
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Can you imagine the offspring if him and Rosie hooked up?
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"Nappy headed" refers specifically to black people's kinky hair that has not been cared for properly. Ho's is "urban" slang for potatos.
But you really didn't want an explaination did you?
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is Rutgers a all black school, if not where are the white wimmen ball players, i call discrimination against whitey.
boycott, boycott, freedom marches.
and yes, imus is a jerk.
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You mean I can't refer to myself as nappy headed when I have a bad hair day? That's exclusionary and racist. :mad:
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Originally posted by midnight Target
But you really didn't want an explaination did you?
Bingo.
Ill will and pandering deserves a rap on the knuckles.
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Shock jocks thrive on fringe statements that gain them notoriety, more viewers, and more pay. Most are too clever to cross into territory that gets them infamy, fewer viewers, and less pay.
I'd think that calling a woman's basketball team a bunch of potatos would cross that line. But Imus probably will survive.
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Forget Imus.
When is Sharpton going to realize he looks like a nappy headed ho?
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Originally posted by Airscrew
how bout, I dont know, and I dont care ;)
so in your opinion which is worse, ignorance or apathy? :D
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Originally posted by Yknurd
Forget Imus.
When is Sharpton going to realize he looks like a nappy headed ho?
HA!
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Originally posted by midnight Target
"Nappy headed" refers specifically to black people's kinky hair that has not been cared for properly. Ho's is "urban" slang for potatos.
But you really didn't want an explaination did you?
And who is allowed to use that term?
A: A black comedian
B: A white comedian
C: All of the above
D: None of the above
If the answer is A we have a BIG problem, and I think it is A.
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screw imus. i always thought he was a mush-mouthed pompous prettythang anyway. i can't figure out who listens to his show. he'll better get into rehab, and quick.
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What I heard that he said referenced all the tatoos on the rough looking women and the nappy headed statement. I have yet to hear that he said hos. Nothing racial in that except to a racist, and racist come in all colors... they are usually the first to pull the race card too. The term "Racist" has been used so much in recent years that it has little meaning except to banner waving blacks. Most all the black folks I know are upstanding citizens and great neighbors.... they laugh at all the melarky they hear from jackson and sharpton by the way.
I personally think that tatoos look awful on a woman... but to each their own.
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imus and stern are the two leading morning shows in NYC, that doesn't say much about new yorkers.
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no problem with what he said here... he has the 1st amendment and listeners can change the station.
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Originally posted by Halo
Shock jocks thrive on fringe statements that gain them notoriety, more viewers, and more pay. Most are too clever to cross into territory that gets them infamy, fewer viewers, and less pay.
I'd think that calling a woman's basketball team a bunch of potatos would cross that line. But Imus probably will survive.
Imus isnt a shock jock. Imus may wish he was a shock jock Then he might actually say something entertaining.
Used to have to listen to that idiot in the car when I was a teen in my mothers car 30 years ago.
He had no talent and wasnt funnny then. And he still has no talent and isnt funny.
I cant fathom how he even has managed to stay around as long as he has
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What he said certainly was racially offensive.
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Originally posted by Yeager
What he said certainly was racially offensive.
sure it was. so what?
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Originally posted by VOR
You mean I can't refer to myself as nappy headed when I have a bad hair day? That's exclusionary and racist. :mad:
But you can still be a "ho" even on a good hair day.
:p
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Originally posted by Yeager
What he said certainly was racially offensive.
Was it???
Then why isn't Sharpton calling for bans and protests and boycotting of rappers?
Or is it only racist when a white person does it? Or is that racism in of itself?
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Originally posted by storch
so in your opinion which is worse, ignorance or apathy? :D
Neither :D both have their virtues, especially in this case. Whether or not Imus keeps his job or loses his job I have no idea and I dont care, As far as I'm concerned the man doesnt exist. I dont listen to him, I have no immediate plans in the future to listen to him. I also dont listen to Stern or Limbaugh either. (I was force fed Limbaugh in the early 90's when a Dr. I worked with at Mtn Home, Dr Fisher listened to him everyday, Dr Fisher's dad was a MOH recepient ; the skyraider that landed and picked up the fellow pilot in Vietnam; He ate up everything Limbaugh said and then some)
This will just be like all the others, alot of moaning and wailing and crying for forgiveness, rehab :rolleyes: and then wait for the next idiot to put their foot in their mouth...remember Michael Richards, Isaiah Washington, Senator George Allen, etc, etc, etc.... I dont know which is stupider, the insanely inappropriate remarks or all the crying from the PC police and the howls of injustice because someone feels slighted...
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if i may interject, i think Sharpton is calling for protests, which are occuring, and he is also demanding imus be fired.
if you think about it, you will probably realize that calling what was apparently a group of mostly black girls on the basketball team "nappy headed ho's" is pretty far over the line no matter how you slice it.
my kid plays basketball, and if a black radio guy called her mostly white girl's team something analagous to nappy headed ho's (i don't know - blue eyed ho's ?) i'd be looking for his job too.
when you are a pro, you are responsible for what you say in public. believe me, if there is a written record of you making a statement like that, there are many occupations that would refuse to hire you. its the world we live in.
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Originally posted by Gunthr
my kid plays basketball, and if a black radio guy called her mostly white girl's team something analagous to nappy headed ho's (i don't know - blue eyed ho's ?) i'd be looking for his job too.
"redneck trailer trash" is the phrase your looking for. But you can't get fired for saying redneck trailer trash, because , well they're just white people.
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Besides. Imus has them all wrong.
they aint ho's
they-EDIT-
Nevermind :D
Think. eating rugs
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Just in from Rutgers.
Asked my son what the reaction was there
His responce freshly C&Ped from the Instant message not two minutes ago
"people are angry,well sort of angry.
but no one cares all that much"
:lol
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Originally posted by john9001
"redneck trailer trash" is the phrase your looking for. But you can't get fired for saying redneck trailer trash, because , well they're just white people.
Wasnt there a famous book called "nappyhead"? Likely not written by a white guy
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nappyhead
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"redneck trailer trash" is the phrase your looking for. But you can't get fired for saying redneck trailer trash, because , well they're just white people. - John
i disagree John. if some black radio guy called my daughters team red neck trailer trash, i'd be looking for his job. i really mean that.
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While it may be politically incorrect, I'm not even remotely concerned about it. I hear worse at school all the time. Call me any racially offensive name for a white person and I won't care either. It's your problem if you can't control yourself, or if you feel the need to insult someone, in order to get your point across. To each their own but the N word is thrown around more loosely then "nappy headed ho's"
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Originally posted by Maverick
But you can still be a "ho" even on a good hair day.
:p
Ok, in that case I'm cool with it. I still have my dignity. :rofl
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I don't care. I'd be willing to bet that when I hear the "N" word, 24 out of 25 times, it's one black referring to another black. So as long as the African American community can tollerate this, then they should have no problem with old man imus.
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I don't care. I'd be willing to bet that when I hear the "N" word, 24 out of 25 times, it's one black referring to another black. So as long as the African American community can tollerate this, then they should have no problem with old man imus. Cav
naaa. i wouldn't tolerate any of that on the radio waves. free speech goes only so far on the radio as far as I'm concerned. i think "nappy headed ho's" has the potential of hurting some feelings. if imus wants to call people nappy headed hos, even n*ggas, or n*ggers or whatever to people's faces, that is a personal decision. radio is different.
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the pic (http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/njwomenshistory/period_4/images/basketball.jpg) doesnt lie. Hos dont come nappier headed then this.
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Dirty ho's of 1909....
:noid
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Word is he got suspended from his cable job but no action taken from his radio job at WFAN
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Originally posted by Pooh21
the pic (http://www.scc.rutgers.edu/njwomenshistory/period_4/images/basketball.jpg) doesnt lie. Hos dont come nappier headed then this.
Gee they dont look any less "Butch" then the ones that play these days LOL
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Word is he got suspended from his cable job but no action taken from his radio job at WFAN
His MSNBC ratings are less than the Home Shopping Network. Who's gonna notice?
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Originally posted by Gunthr
i disagree John. if some black radio guy called my daughters team red neck trailer trash, i'd be looking for his job. i really mean that.
WHAT???
You live in Florida!
What do you know about trailers? or Trash? Hell the last 5 Hurricanes blew away all of that. You're confused...the term yer looking for is "Snowbirds"
Wait there's a term that no one Biyotches about but is directed towards the Elderly Retired White People.... I think I'll be pissssed in 10 more Years!
*gotta write this crap down, gives me purpose later*
So now we decide what words we can and can not say? Freedom of Speech?
Wait Mac that's different... Yeah right and my Daughters school can't have a Manger with a Baby Jesus ?
Hippocrits and Bigots. Have we not grown out of this yet?
Pfffft... People can be so Ugly no matter how much age or education they have.
Mac
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This whole absurd story is just another nail in the coffin of "the news", which is now little more than low budget "infotainment"... put some reject extremist clowns on TV and let em go..
Why on earth do CNN et al give professional victims like Al Slapd**k and Jessie Jac**ff face time to spew their rhetoric? neither one has any credibility, both sit around waiting to be offended so they can be on TV and push their agenda.
These two opportunistic losers tried to have the WHITE Duke Lacrosse players strung up by their nuts not too long ago, yet here they are patting themselves on the back for "protecting college athletes" while the useless infotainment host with perfect hair & makeup nods accordingly and lets them slide on the hypocrisy.
Also for the record Don Imus has done 1000x more good for humanity, raising millions for kids with cancer, than Al & Jessie can dream of accomplishing in their lifetime... those two crybabies need to take a nappy.
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"He who is without Sin cast the first Stone.."
In all my heart I could never grasp a stone.
Mac
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sure it was. so what?
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so nothing really, I guess. Except maybe learn to treat people with respect and stop being an ass. Imus that is :aok
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Imus has been slamming Sharpton for years. This just gave him an excuse to go looking to get Imus fired.
Yea that outburst from Imus was soooo hate filled and sooo like Michael Richards.
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Pfft
Bronk
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Originally posted by john9001
imus and stern are the two leading morning shows in NYC, that doesn't say much about new yorkers.
Yes but we eat the sheep
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I'm tempted to post "apologies to jessie jackson" from South Park...So funny, but i'll prolly get PNG
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Originally posted by john9001
is Rutgers a all black school, if not where are the white wimmen ball players, i call discrimination against whitey.
boycott, boycott, freedom marches.
and yes, imus is a jerk.
My Aunt got her Master's at Rutgers. It is NOT an "All black school". Dred's son attends Rutgers on top of it, I believe.
Imus is a Howard Stern wannabe.
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Long Live Imus
Long Live Free Speech
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I have to say I spit my frosted flakes all over the floor and split a gut laughing when I heard him say that. I couldnt believe it.
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I'd hit that Heather chick on the team, but the rest look like they were beaten with a bag of nickles.
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I heard one of the members of the team on the CBS evening news saying she felt this would "scar her for life." Anyone smell a law suit? If the opinion of one or two old men scar her for life, she has a hard road to hoe.:D
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Originally posted by Keeler101
Long Live Imus
Long Live Free Speech
Long Live the forgetting of "Free Speech as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others". Imus forgot that.
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Free Speech is not the same thing as appropriate speech.
I am free to tell my boss he is a complete idiot, but I should expect to be fired for it.
Anyone who thinks both kinds of speech are the same is a fool.
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Really, who cares what he said? Are peoples lives so small that they have to listen to someone who they know is going to insult them. I don't give a fling about what Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson has to say, so why should anyone care about what Imus has to say? I don't and won't listen to any of them.
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Just curious, cos I'm a lil confused by the news.
I know the US uses the term diapers a lot. Here we call em nappy's. Do you guys call em nappy's or diapers in day to day speech?
Just wonder cos sometimes when gaming I tell people "I'm on nappy duty" ...
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Here we call them acrylic Pampers destined to outlive cockroaches (if you can believe it).
I actually remember something called a diaper service, and something called a diaper pail.
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Incredibly, Bill Maher has something useful to say:
I'm sorry, but if this is the biggest problem for a black leader in this country to address day after day, then the civil rights situation is a lot better than I thought it was in America.
Perhaps someone will notice that CBS (radio), which suspended Imus for 2 weeks, indirectly owns much of the frightful rap music lyrics to which Imus's remarks pale in comparison
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He's white...old...and said something deemed inappropriate by some.
IF he was black and said something along the same lines in regards to white people...he would be heralded in the community for speaking out.
Double standard PC crap....:rolleyes:
The day Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson , Louis Ferrakan are considered to be the standard for what is right when speaking about racisim is the day I'll eat my hat. They're just as racist as anyone.
Imus is an Idiot....should not have said it...but just because he did means Al can call for his Job like some sanctamonius *** just leads to nothing more than pouring fuel on the fire.
Al , Jesse , Louis are all nothing more than mouths. Who like to pour fuel on a racist fire to fuel and to promote thier own racsist agendas.
I'm sure this post will hit a nerve or 2....
Get over it....PC suks.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Long Live the forgetting of "Free Speech as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others". Imus forgot that.
There's no "right" to be free from being insulted. A few of those chicks look like they walked out of the hills an onto a B-ball court.. Imus was not all that far off, on top of that he didn't say one word I don't hear DAILY around here... I often wonder what pristine world these fools live in where the words "nappy ho" becomes some kinda cause for moral outrage... they must be too sensitive to watch tv, listen to the radio, walk outside, or take a joke.
This whole Imus thing is just another infotainment circus where all the usual clowns get to pile out of the volkswagen onto television... when the entertainment value has played itself out they'll pile back inside waiting to be offended again.
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I still want to know if I declare myself on "Nappy Duty" if I'm gonna be considered racist by my squaddies.
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I saw only one story on national news about the possible double standard here. What about all those rap songs that are given Grammy awards and use the word "ho's" ?So is the word off limits to all but rappers? All but black people? Or perhaps CBS wont broadcast or sell songs with that word in it?
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Originally posted by x0847Marine
There's no "right" to be free from being insulted. A few of those chicks look like they walked out of the hills an onto a B-ball court.. Imus was not all that far off, on top of that he didn't say one word I don't hear DAILY around here... I often wonder what pristine world these fools live in where the words "nappy ho" becomes some kinda cause for moral outrage... they must be too sensitive to watch tv, listen to the radio, walk outside, or take a joke.
This whole Imus thing is just another infotainment circus where all the usual clowns get to pile out of the volkswagen onto television... when the entertainment value has played itself out they'll pile back inside waiting to be offended again.
The United States Constitution backs up my previous post xMarine. Fight it all you want, he should have left his racial stereotypes around his dining room table.
I don't live in a world with "color". I'll never show arrogance, but I will laugh at those who pretend that they are.
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Originally posted by BTW
I saw only one story on national news about the possible double standard here. What about all those rap songs that are given Grammy awards and use the word "ho's" ?So is the word off limits to all but rappers? All but black people? Or perhaps CBS wont broadcast or sell songs with that word in it?
I'm still looking for the rap song that calls any particular person a nappy headed ho. Imus directed the slur at someone, not as a general description of a general idea .. like in a song.
That being said I think his apology should be enough. The rest is just silly.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm still looking for the rap song that calls any particular person a nappy headed ho.
Project Pat - Rinky Dink / Whatever Ho
Not one of his better tracks, but it's there. Then again, I'm not a big fan of rap out of Memphis. Gotta keep it local.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm still looking for the rap song that calls any particular person a nappy headed ho. Imus directed the slur at someone, not as a general description of a general idea .. like in a song.
That being said I think his apology should be enough. The rest is just silly.
Oh- so calling women "ho's" in general is alright or somewhat less offensive? Having a general derogatory view of women deserves less than censure?
That doesn't even make sense from a liberal point of view. I think you are choosing to ignore the hypocrisy by introducing lunacy:aok
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What should bother you the most is how much air time CNN is giving to the debate. That and whats his name is the father of whats her face thats now dead in the Bahamas.
The FCC needs to start looking more closely at some of these broadcasters and ask how the public is being served by major news divisions spending most of their time on "ET Tonight" gossip stories.
Iran has announced its ready to start enrichment of nuclear fuel on an industrial scale, but not to worry, "Imus" said a bad word. Lets go with that. :confused:
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Imus lambasted for his actions on front page of 3 different sections in Washington Post for making a racial statement towards black basketball players...
Adam Morrison (also white) NBA Basketball Player heckled for 2 hours by black fans calling him "White Trash" and other assorted racial slurs......
Fined 15,000 Dollars for flipping off his hecklers. page 3 sports section.
gotta love the double standard, created by guilt ridden old white guys and exploited to the max by the Black activists.
"NEW YORK, April 10, 2007 – Adam Morrison of the Charlotte Bobcats has been fined $25,000 for directing an obscene gesture toward fans, it was announced today by Stu Jackson, NBA Executive Vice President Basketball Operations.
The incident occurred with 1:18 remaining in the overtime period of the Bobcats 111-103 win over the Miami Heat on Sunday, April 8 at American Airlines Arena. "
wow 100 words or less on this racist incident...............
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Any player flipping off the fans for any reason would have received the same treatment.
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Originally posted by BTW
Oh- so calling women "ho's" in general is alright or somewhat less offensive? Having a general derogatory view of women deserves less than censure?
That doesn't even make sense from a liberal point of view. I think you are choosing to ignore the hypocrisy by introducing lunacy:aok
.. I have no problem with all women in America filing a class action lawsuit. Maybe you can spearhead that one.
I thought conservatives were all about common sense?
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Well, it got him more publicity than he's had the past 20 years
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I think all white people should start calling each other by some name, perhaps whitey, and thereby making it cool and hip nomenclature.
Then when all the blacks start calling whites by the same name you can yell RACISM.
Oh, and add, "How 'bout them sour apples."
Yeah, that should do it.
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I think Imus should be sued for slander.
Them girls can prove they ain't nappy headed 'hos. They wash they hair at least once a week.
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Originally posted by Squire
What should bother you the most is how much air time CNN is giving to the debate. That and whats his name is the father of whats her face thats now dead in the Bahamas.
The FCC needs to start looking more closely at some of these broadcasters and ask how the public is being served by major news divisions spending most of their time on "ET Tonight" gossip stories.
Iran has announced its ready to start enrichment of nuclear fuel on an industrial scale, but not to worry, "Imus" said a bad word. Lets go with that. :confused:
I was thinking along the same lines today watching the news channels. Kinda makes me wonder if the priorities of the "Moral Majority" or the "Politically Correct" are what drive the media to keep telling these stories untill everyone is sick of them. Sure there is a racial problem that still exists on all sides. Acknowledging the problem is conducive to a soloution, attacking one person for it is not.
I myself am more interested in what is happening in the Middle East more than how a racial insult was spewed by a radio host that is known for his subordinant vocabulary.
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i always call other euro-americans "honky".
"hey, honky, whats up?" is a common greeting among us euro-americans. It's part of our white culture.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
The United States Constitution backs up my previous post xMarine. Fight it all you want, he should have left his racial stereotypes around his dining room table.
I don't live in a world with "color". I'll never show arrogance, but I will laugh at those who pretend that they are.
Show me where in the Constitution one is protected from being called a "nappy ho", or insulted in general. Its not a civil rights violation, if it were most rappers would be outlaws.. which is CENSORSHIP.
And its not for you or anyone to decide where Imus, or any person in the US, should or shouldn't voice their legal free opinion (speech).. even if it makes a few people cry and you don't like it.. even the KKK has a right to voice their opinion.
All this manufactured "moral outrage" is a farce, cant you see how phony this all is? can you honestly say with all the rappers & comedians out there who say much worse dozens of times every day... that 2 sentences from a radio jock is worth all this drama?
Nothing happened except that a radio guy who has a comedy show exercised his right to free speech by cracking a joke a few people didn't like... Imus has made a career of clowning Sharpton & Jeckson et al, now its "pay back" time.
BTW whatever you do, DO NOT WATCH HBOs "Bad boys of comedy", these guys make Imus sound like the Pope... I wouldnt want you or any uber sensitive person to die of shock. But the comedians were all black so you wont be seeing Al Sharpton or the other usual moral outrage victims complaining.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
.. I have no problem with all women in America filing a class action lawsuit. Maybe you can spearhead that one.
I thought conservatives were all about common sense?
Yea you do. You think its quite alright for rap stars to use the word "ho" but wrong for a white entertainer to use the word. You made that apparent and tried to justify it with some nonsense about "general" and direct insults. When called on it you just ignored it. You have to ignore it because the position that rap stars and black comedians can say it, but white talk show hosts can't, is *INDEFESIBLE* No logic can support that lunacy.
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Poor guy makes a mistake, not racist remark.... and all the racists jump on him about it. Sad... he should look into his backgraound and find out if he has any black relatives.... then he can say anything he wants with no worry of censorship.
Anyone look into sharpton...... and where he came into the limelight.... I think you'll be surprised at his track record of racism.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I still want to know if I declare myself on "Nappy Duty" if I'm gonna be considered racist by my squaddies.
Vulcan,
The day I didn't get a racism letter in my work history because a co-worker of Sub-Saharan African decent 400 years removed, born in Oakland CA was offended by over hearing that my sister's black husband's family called me a "White African American Spear Chukker" because I was born in Africa and threw javalin in college.
The only things I could take away from the HR intrvention hearing was the following:
1. White people are unconsiously racist (like being born in original sin) and given time will reveil themselves unknown to themselves that they are racist in the most innocent of their sentance structures when in the presence of non-whites.
2. White people cannot use any words in any combination no matter how innocent in their consious mind that might be missunderstood, constrewed, or otherwise lead a non-white person to think you have impuned them racially.
3. HR departments in the U.S. won't publish a pamphlet of racist No No words for white employees only due to it being a violation of several constitutional rights. I asked in the spirit of making amends so I could make myself a better emplyoe.
4. Non-White speech is protected by a Super Shadow copy of the constitution I'm not allowed to read.
So Vulcan it only takes one person to misunderstand your usage of the word nappy to get you in trouble..........but I have noticed Hitech and Co. have shown a reasonable command of the diverse peoples and cultural backgrounds playing in their sandbox........:aok
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Originally posted by bustr
Vulcan,
The day I didn't get a racism letter in my work history because a co-worker of Sub-Saharan African decent 400 years removed, born in Oakland CA was offended by over hearing that my sister's black husband's family called me a "White African American Spear Chukker" because I was born in Africa and threw javalin in college.
The only things I could take away from the HR intrvention hearing was the following:
1. White people are unconsiously racist (like being born in original sin) and given time will reveil themselves unknown to themselves that they are racist in the most innocent of their sentance structures when in the presence of non-whites.
2. White people cannot use any words in any combination no matter how innocent in their consious mind that might be missunderstood, constrewed, or otherwise lead a non-white person to think you have impuned them racially.
3. HR departments in the U.S. won't publish a pamphlet of racist No No words for white employees only due to it being a violation of several constitutional rights. I asked in the spirit of making amends so I could make myself a better emplyoe.
4. Non-White speech is protected by a Super Shadow copy of the constitution I'm not allowed to read.
Isn't it funny how deep it can get? I guess we can't all just get along.
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there are bigger problems in the world like soldiers dieng
who cares what the tard said "dont like it dont listen"..simple
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Originally posted by Shuffler
Poor guy makes a mistake, not racist remark.... and all the racists jump on him about it. Sad... he should look into his backgraound and find out if he has any black relatives.... then he can say anything he wants with no worry of censorship.
Anyone look into sharpton...... and where he came into the limelight.... I think you'll be surprised at his track record of racism.
Well lets post it. This is Sharpton's legacy:
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1987: Sharpton spreads the incendiary Tawana Brawley hoax, insisting heatedly that a 15-year-old black girl was abducted, raped, and smeared with feces by a group of white men. He singles out Steve Pagones, a young prosecutor. Pagones is wholly innocent -- the crime never occurred -- but Sharpton taunts him: "If we're lying, sue us, so we can . . . prove you did it." Pagones does sue, and eventually wins a $345,000 verdict for defamation. To this day, Sharpton refuses to recant his unspeakable slander or to apologize for his role in the odious affair.
1991: A Hasidic Jewish driver in Brooklyn's Crown Heights section accidentally kills Gavin Cato, a 7-year-old black child, and antisemitic riots erupt. Sharpton races to pour gasoline on the fire. At Gavin's funeral he rails against the "diamond merchants" -- code for Jews -- with "the blood of innocent babies" on their hands. He mobilizes hundreds of demonstrators to march through the Jewish neighborhood, chanting, "No justice, no peace." A rabbinical student, Yankel Rosenbaum, is surrounded by a mob shouting "Kill the Jews!" and stabbed to death.
1995: When the United House of Prayer, a large black landlord in Harlem, raises the rent on Freddy's Fashion Mart, Freddy's white Jewish owner is forced to raise the rent on his subtenant, a black-owned music store. A landlord-tenant dispute ensues; Sharpton uses it to incite racial hatred. "We will not stand by," he warns malignantly, "and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business." Sharpton's National Action Network sets up picket lines; customers going into Freddy's are spat on and cursed as "traitors" and "Uncle Toms." Some protesters shout, "Burn down the Jew store!" and simulate striking a match. "We're going to see that this cracker suffers," says Sharpton's colleague Morris Powell. On Dec. 8, one of the protesters bursts into Freddy's, shoots four employees point-blank, then sets the store on fire. Seven employees die in the inferno.
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Source is here
http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2411
Lets make it clear, Sharpton has a legacy of promoting murder, but doing so in a "vague" or general] sense.
Perhaps we should pull up his divisive, bigoted remarks in the Duke case?
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Ann weighs in:
The reason people don't like what Imus said was because the women on the Rutgers basketball team aren't engaged in public discourse. They're not public figures, they don't have a forum, they aren't trying to influence public policy.
They play basketball — quite well, apparently — and did nothing to bring on an attack on their looks or character. It's not the words Imus used: It would be just as bad if he had simply said the Rutgers women were ugly and loose.
People claim to object to the words alone, but that's because everyone is trying to fit this incident into a PC worldview. It's like girls who say, "It's not that you cheated on me; it's that you lied about it." No — it's that you cheated.
If Imus had called me a "towheaded ho" or Al Sharpton a "nappy-headed ho," it would be what's known as "funny." (And if he called Anna Nicole Smith a "flaxen-headed ho," it would be "absolutely accurate.") But he attacked the looks and morals of utterly innocent women, who had done nothing to inject themselves into public debate.
Imus should apologize to the Rutgers women — and those women alone — send them flowers, and stop kissing Al Sharpton's ring.
This wasn't an insult to all mankind, and certainly not an insult to Al Sharpton. Now, if Imus had called the basketball players "fat, race-baiting black men with clownish hairstyles," well, then perhaps Sharpton would be owed an apology.
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Reasonable critique--I like Imus on most levels (notable exceptions being his leftward drift since his arrival at MSNBC and his marriage to a Manhattan limousine liberal). But as of 6pm today, he is no longer allowed to work in America, while AL Sharpton continues to be a race pimp--can't @$@%%% beLIEVE he went on Sharpton's show:mad:
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Colbert touched on this, good stuff:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/11/colbert-does-damage-control-for-his-own-on-air-racial-slur/
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Originally posted by BTW
Yea you do. You think its quite alright for rap stars to use the word "ho" but wrong for a white entertainer to use the word. You made that apparent and tried to justify it with some nonsense about "general" and direct insults. When called on it you just ignored it. You have to ignore it because the position that rap stars and black comedians can say it, but white talk show hosts can't, is *INDEFESIBLE* No logic can support that lunacy.
I took a deep breath before posting.
Please don't ASS-U-ME that I agree with something simply because I ignore it. I think Sharpton is a tool. I think Snoop dog is a tool. I think Gangsta Rap is chuck full of tools. I also think Sharpton et.al. completely lost the high ground when he mentioned using the "airwaves" to spread this kind of "sexist" message. Unless he gets out on the bandwagon and starts denouncing misogynistic rap songs he has no message to give.
I also wrote that I felt Imus' apology should have been sufficient. AND I wrote that there is a difference between general and specific attacks. So spew all you want, but I think you have the wrong guy here.
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Three snaps with a twirl at the end.
You go MT.
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If it weren't for people like Don Imus then morons like Sharpton and Jackson wouldn't have a "job" (for lack of a better word).
These (self-appointed) representitives of the black community do nothing but look for stuff like this every day so they can scream racism and get their face's on tv.
I'm not a Imus fan and what he said was probably inappropriate but talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill!!
Surely there is more important things to talk about in the news... I mean my god CNN actually interrupted their 24 hour coverage of Anna Nicole and American Idol ............................. ..........................
Sad
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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I'm sorry but I'm really failing to see Imus's comments and how they relate to rappers. Everyone always cries "BUT THE RAPPERS DO IT!". Do you really think a musician speaks for everyone of his race? Can the Neo-Nazi twin sisters that spout racial hatred be used to represent what White America thinks? I didn't think so. And the funny thing is, these rappers that supposedly have wide-spread influence are only in the place they are because a majority White label-head gives them the go-ahead with their lyrics. So these guys only get put on, based on what White America wants to see(I can find stats that prove that suburban youths are the highest purchasers of rap music).
EDIT: Not to say some don't already speak this way, but *someone* has to allow/call for these words to be mass-produced.
I agree this situation isnt exactly a perfect example of racism(alot of black people cringe whenever Sharpton or Jackson get involved in well....anything), but as someone in his position on a show viewed by millions(a stretch?) it's a bit insane to think he shouldnt get some kind of punishment for publicly slandering a group. IMO, race has nothing to do with this except for in the context he said it. If Al Roker was reviewing a gymnastic competition and said "Oh those cracker $#@! right there, they're obviously on a coke diet" I would expect outcry from their parents, the gymnasts, and everyone else who thought it was out of line.
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RightFOOT,
I've seen black people on tee. vee.
And they ALL act like that. You know, using the N-word. And holding their privates. All of them.