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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Vudak on April 10, 2007, 03:42:02 PM
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Well, on Sunday it'll be one month since I last had a sweet, succulent camel. I didn't really want to quit, I'm pretty bitter about doing so, I'd really rather still be a smoker, and I think all the yuppies who want to complain about how my smoking is harmful to their health should think about how they're yapping on the cellphone while driving their gas-guzzling SUV down to the beach to soak in the sun's rays for a few hours while drinking this that or the other thing and using some new fad diet.
Grumpiness aside...
Yeah, today's been really rough. After about 2 weeks, I found that I was ok and not needing a smoke that bad. In fact, I started to forget about it. But then I got sick last week, am just recovering from that, and my persistent cough has turned into a deep, lung-cleansing one today.
I was wondering... Are my lungs clearing themselves out, and if so, could this coughing be recycling old tar back into my system or something? Is there some connection between this and my REALLY going nuts for a smoke today?
Anyone else find the month mark as a bumpy part? Or any advice on how to get over it?
Sheeesh this sucks.
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After two years , I wondered why I ever started smoking :)
Now you got to get to that point though , hehe .
23 years ago I quit .
One month , stay on your path guy . Don't EVER light up one .
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when I smoked and quit I went through the same thing. I figured once my lungs figured out I wasn't going to put any more smoke in themselves they cleaned out. That was always my theory.
Good luck sticking with it
I just quit dipping 2 months ago and it still sucks
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I dont remember if it was a month after i stopped that the sucking really began but it was around that time. Lasted for a week or so and then it got better. The first week was suprisingly easy i remember.
Now some 3 years (or is it 4? the community prolly remembers better than me LOL ) I still get the urge once every month or so, but its only in my head and last for a few minutes then i forget about it again.
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When you quit smoking, the benefits begin within minutes of your last cigarette.
At 20 minutes after quitting:
* blood pressure decreases
* pulse rate drops
* body temperature of hands and feet increases.
At 8 hours:
* carbon monoxide level in blood drops to normal
* oxygen level in blood increases to normal
At 24 hours:
* chance of a heart attack decreases
At 48 hours:
* nerve endings start regrowing
* ability to smell and taste improve
Between 2 weeks and 3 months:
* circulation improves
* walking becomes easier
* lung function increases
Starting as early as a month after you quit smoking, and continuing for the next several months, you may notice significant improvements in these areas:
* coughing
* sinus congestion
* fatigue
* shortness of breath
* excess risk of coronary heart disease is decreased to half that of a smoker
Cigarette smoking is directly linked to 30% of all heart disease deaths in the United States each year. It plays a part in coronary heart disease, and causes damage by decreasing oxygen to the heart. Smoking increases blood pressure and heart rate, both of which are hard on the heart. Quitting tobacco is the absolute best thing you can do for your heart and for your health overall.
From 5 to 15 years...
At 5 years smoke free:
* from 5 to 15 years after quitting tobacco, stroke risk is reduced to that of people who have never smoked.
Paul's Story - How a Stroke Changed His Life
At 10 years smoke free:
* risk of lung cancer drops to as little as one-half that of continuing smokers
* risk of cancer of the mouth, throat, esophagus, bladder, kidney, and pancreas decreases
* risk of ulcer decreases
At 15 years smoke free:
* risk of coronary heart disease is now similar to that of people who have never smoked
* risk of death returns to nearly the level of people who have never smoked
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* "Just 20 minutes after your last cigarette, your blood pressure and
pulse rate drop to normal and the body temperature of your hands and
feet increases to normal."
* "A mere 8 hours after your last smoke, the carbon monoxide level
decreases and the oxygen level in your blood increases to normal."
* "Just 24 hours after your last cigarette, you substantially lessen
your chances of having a heart attack."
* "Two days after your last cigarette, you will notice that your
ability to taste and smell is enhanced."
* "Three days later, your breathing should be noticeably better
because your lung capacity will be greater."
* "Your circulation will improve and your lung functioning will
increase up to 30% within two weeks to three months after quitting."
* "Between one month and nine months, the cilia in your lungs will
regenerate, allowing your body to clean your lungs and reduce
infection."
* "One year after quitting, your risk of coronary heart disease is
half that of a smoker."
* "Five years after quitting, your risk of stroke is reduced to that
of a nonsmoker."
* "Ten years after quitting, the lung cancer death rate is about half
that of a continuing smokers. The risk of cancer of the mouth, throat,
esophagus, bladder, kidney and pancreas decreases."
* "Fifteen years after quitting, your risk of coronary heart disease
is that of a nonsmokers.
(U.S. Surgeon General's Reports (1988, 1990)
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well, you will see black crap comming up when you detox from tobacco. 3 months is the real cruncher, or was for me. I started having dreams of breaking down and smoking at a party or bar and woke up in sweaty sheets from it. But, Soon after that I got my first real breath of crisp cool refreshing oxygen in 10 years. And I was hooked on being smoke free. I havnt had a puff of a cig in 20 years quitting was the best decision I ever made. ( I do smoke the occasional cigar however):D Good luck and leave that crap alone.
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See what this smoking is doing with you ?
you are a hostage.
remember the life before you started smoking?
you didnt needed such thing to enjoy life, you where free
and you can/will be again for sure.
I'm free since more then 6 years, just hold on.
remember, smoking = hostage, otherwise every smoker could
quit instant.
the first 3 weeks i eat butter-cookies instead smoking,
somehow it helped me the first weeks! ;)
no panic, you cant become addicted by cookies, there are
no nikotin inside :D
good luck
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easy to give up smoking just start taking smack all day and have no money that you dont spend on heroin.
failing that you could just chop your fingers off/
works.
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Half the population is hypersensitive to nicotine. These are the people who have extreme trouble quitting smoking. The other half of the population are those who quit smoking seemingly effortlessly.
Nicotine is a stimulant. There is a drug out, Zyban, which is the same as the anti-depressant Wellbutrin. This is not your normal anti-depressant, it basically increases your dopamine and norepinephrine levels, the same as having a cup of coffee and a cigarette. If you are having alot of trouble quitting smoking, give Zyban a try.
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When your growing anxiety about smoking related health issues begins to exceed the pleasure you derive from smoking, it becomes easy to quit.
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ha i just started :)
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nelson... congrats... I am glad that I was wrong about your will power.
lazs
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Quitting smoking is the hardest thing I have ever done. I was a pack a day smoker for 30 years. I had tried to quit numerous times.
I finally just picked a quit date, bougth the patch (Nicoderm) and did the full 12 week program with them. I haven't had a cigarrette since my quit date (1st Feb 2007). I am off the patch now, still get cravings a couple times a day, but they go away after a few minutes.
Every time I think about a smoke, I remind myself how going up a flight od stairs would leave m ewinded, how my clothes always smelled like a monkeys butt from the smoke (which I hadn't noticed before I quit). etc etc.
There have been alot of positive benefits to quitting for me. Aside from the health benefits, it feels great to finally get that monkey off my back.
Best advise I can give you Vudak, is when you get that craving, have a glass of water and go find something to do. Most importantly, stick with it.
WTG on a month free!
As an aside to any RL pilots wanting to quit, be very careful with ZYBAN. Up here, it will invalidate your medical certificate while you are on it. It has been known to cause seizures in some people.
Cheers,
RTR
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Hiya Vudak, congrats on the month of being smoke free... I'm going into my eighth week, I quit on the 17 of feb. I've smoked for almost 30 years, and truthfuly I don't remember ever not smoking. For me the begining of the second month was the hardest, I don't sleep well, I have dreams of smoking, I'm irritable, have trouble concentrating on things, and I'm just an all around lovely person.
The only advice I can give you is that if you have made it this far stick with it. It's not easy, and it's not fun but it is well worth it. I already see improvements in my health. The real down side for me is the weight gain I have experianced.
Good luck
SIK1
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Toughest times are the 3's...3rd day, 3rd week.
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Originally posted by FastFwd
When your growing anxiety about smoking related health issues begins to exceed the pleasure you derive from smoking, it becomes easy to quit.
this is a smart quote, best post here.
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i had that happen to me too.
i took it as being a cleaning process for my body.
stick with it man. its sooooo much better being a non smoker.
good luck.
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Originally posted by JB88
its sooooo much better being a non smoker.
Are you kidding? I work at least an extra 45 minutes every day because I'm not taking smoke breaks.
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cocktail breaks?
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Quitting is very hard but possible. I've quit no less than 20 times. I'm on my longest quit right now - a year and a half. I seldom think about smoking anymore, but I know I am only one cigarette away from starting again. I am that much of a nicotine addict. One cigarette would hook me immediately. Good luck, and if you are a nicotine addict , use the patches or gum (or whatever) to wean off of it.
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Actually, I have to confess. I started smoking again and it's HTC's fault. I was so conditioned to light up a smoke everytime I took off I would crave one so bad it was crazy.
Yeah, I should have not had any cigs in the house, but I did. Then I took a roadtrip to Ft. Hood. That was murderous. I made it to Waco before I pulled in and bought a pack. Then sneak one here and there at work, next thing I know I'm back at full blast.
I was taking Chantrix to quit before and it was fairly easy. Chantrix blocks the receptors in you brain that like nicotine. You take the pills while still smoking, all the time losing the nicotine craving. Before long you get nothing out of smoking one. Then all that is left is breaking the habit of smoking at all.
The second part is where I failed. I also stopped taking the Chantrix too soon after quitting. I should have taken it for another 2-3 weeks longer than I did.
I just picked up another month's supply of Chantrix and they added Wellbutrin to my script. Hopefully the combo will let me finally quit. After smoking 35 years it's an uphill battle. It would be much easier if I didn't enjoy it so much. The health issues are not a real motivator to me.
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Originally posted by rpm
Actually, I have to confess. I started smoking again and it's HTC's fault. I was so conditioned to light up a smoke everytime I took off I would crave one so bad it was crazy.
Yeah, I should have not had any cigs in the house, but I did. Then I took a roadtrip to Ft. Hood. That was murderous. I made it to Waco before I pulled in and bought a pack. Then sneak one here and there at work, next thing I know I'm back at full blast.
I was taking Chantrix to quit before and it was fairly easy. Chantrix blocks the receptors in you brain that like nicotine. You take the pills while still smoking, all the time losing the nicotine craving. Before long you get nothing out of smoking one. Then all that is left is breaking the habit of smoking at all.
The second part is where I failed. I also stopped taking the Chantrix too soon after quitting. I should have taken it for another 2-3 weeks longer than I did.
I just picked up another month's supply of Chantrix and they added Wellbutrin to my script. Hopefully the combo will let me finally quit. After smoking 35 years it's an uphill battle. It would be much easier if I didn't enjoy it so much. The health issues are not a real motivator to me.
just do it dude. you know that you can.
:aok
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The fact is if you're a nicotine addict, you can't have one "here and there." You can't even have a puff. If you are a nicotine addict ( which I am definitely), one puff will start you off again. It will go like this...
"oh man I was drunk and smoked a half a cigarette - thats it, Ill never do it again."
week two: "Oh man just a cigarette with this one beer won't hurt. I won't smoke
after that"
week three: " If I just smoke when I drink, that won't be bad. Thats only about 10 cigarettes a week."
week four: "fug it - phhhht"
Its a progression that starts on the first puff. It might take one week, it might take 6 weeks, but if you take that first puff you have stepped on the road to take you back to smoking. Believ e me, I know this and have used every irrational excuse possible to tell myself 1 puff wont hurt. One puff WILL END YOUR QUIT.
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yep. happened to me the first time that i did it.
bad move. three years down the drain. had to do it all over again years later.
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Yeah, I know I'm an addict. But I'm a very happy addict which makes it 10 times harder to quit. Surprisingly, the heart surgery wasn't as strong of a motivator as you would think. I'm too young to die.:rolleyes:
If I did, Heaven wouldn't take me and Hell knows I'll take over. I already have a business outline and a mission statement!
Seriously, I think I can do it on this round of Chantrix. I just won't stop taking the pills as soon as I did before.
And if anyone wants in on my Hell's Timeshare deals let me know! Parrrrrrrrtay!!!
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Forgive me for chimming in again- but this helps me also :)
Memories of happiness have a lot to do with the psychological aspect of quitting. Building a reservoir of non smoking happy memories will help you succeed. I smoked since I was 12 or 13. I have memories of puffing a smoke under a willow tree on a river bank at 16 or so, looking at "Peggy Sue" in a t-shirt and cutoffs. That's a heck of an association to combat. The more pleasant memories you can collect as a non smoker will increase your chances of success. In this vein I would suggest keeping a written journal of nice times you have while not smoking. I know it sounds stupid, but as you get older, you tend to forget some good time while on "auto pilot" (going through the basic day to day). As your good memories while not smoking increase, your identity of being a non smoker will become stronger (IMO).
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my favorite memories involve pacing back and forth in front of a giant canvas, covered from head to toe in various streaks of oil paint while a marlboro red hung from my lips stained with variouos carcinogenic paints from my hands.
surprized i didnt explode myself with the free flowing mineral spirits.
good times.
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You're a painter? That is too weird - so am I. Mostly pseudo impressionistic stuff. Haven't painted in about 7 years.
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no time like the present.
:)
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fours weeks? are you nuts it takes one smoke in the pub and youre a smoker that day anyhow so smoke 10. takes me one smoke to be hooked again and then i give in. i first smoked age about 13 and was definitely addicted by 16. i gave up a few times also longest for a year or so, the only too things that made me start again have been alcohol, and wanting to smoke a joint on climb out to pwn some bish....hmmm and maybe coffee breaks or after a resturaunt meal....and talking to someone you dont want to talk to on the phone at work
girlfriend hates smoking and i never smoke around her, funny thing is i never ever want one when im with her either, i dont want to smell like an ashtray, makes foreplay much harder with a non smoker, and thats not intended as a joke.
Vudak, so basicaly avoid drinking, eating, coffee and work and have sex with a non smoker the whole time.... will be easy enough.
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13 or 16? I was smoking Camels at 9 hooked at 9 & 1/2.
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@Vudak; I quit smoking about 15 years ago. The first time I lasted a full year without it. If you drop your guard even once in the next 10 years you will be back at it. After 10 years the cravings are almost gone but on the very rare occasion you will think about doing a cigar or just a bit of pipe. If you do, then you will be back. One thing you will have to remember for the rest of your life. You can not even have one, ever for any reason or you will start the habit again. It's part of being an adult.
About you're being sick. Not a good sign. The tars in smoke kill bacteria, germs, fungi and were it not killing dangerous to you, it would actually be good for you. When you stop smoking your lungs have declared open season to every spore and bug that floats on the wind. After I quit smoking it was only 3 years before I caught something and for it there is no cure and its occasionally painful. But I can breath, which is of course more important.
I would suggest you see a doctor right away and tell him you were a pack a day smoker. If he is any good he will monitor your lung condition to make sure you stay healthier.
RASTER
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
Half the population is hypersensitive to nicotine. These are the people who have extreme trouble quitting smoking. The other half of the population are those who quit smoking seemingly effortlessly.
Nicotine is a stimulant. There is a drug out, Zyban, which is the same as the anti-depressant Wellbutrin. This is not your normal anti-depressant, it basically increases your dopamine and norepinephrine levels, the same as having a cup of coffee and a cigarette. If you are having alot of trouble quitting smoking, give Zyban a try.
Tried it.
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About 2 weeks into taking this stuff I got very dizzy while I was away from home.
Decided to return home. Vision went dark while driving down the road.
Stopped as best I could but couldn't see the side of the road for about 10 seconds.
Finally vision came back but was still Dizzy and nauseas.
Made it home and only lost my vision 2 more times.
Called Dr. and was told to STOP taking the Zyban immediatly and to take NO MORE.
Was told that some people react in this manner to Zyban/Wellbutran.
:(
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I tried Wellbutrin about seven years or so ago. I was a teen back then, and Wellbutrin's been known to lead to suicidal thoughts in teens. So I got right back to smoking :D
My major problem seems to be that I honestly enjoyed smoking, found it to be a relaxing hobby, and didn't really want to quit for my own reasons whatsoever. I quit as a courtesy to the lady friend, as her father was recently diagnosed with lung cancer :(
I'm just glad to hear that doing fine the first few days and then going nuts a few weeks into it is somewhat normal. A lot of people who wanted me to quit have been blowing the smoke of "oh the first three days are the hardest," or "oh, I meant the first two." That does not seem to be the case!
Oh, and Batfink, thanks for the help haha.
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Originally posted by rpm
13 or 16? I was smoking Camels at 9 hooked at 9 & 1/2.
i've always enjoyed a smoke, simple as that. i stated 16 as the age i might truly have been snared because that was the legal age to start buying them without needing ID so often, and also coincided with me working full time and having enough cash also. i dont think either of us have much to be proud of there though.
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It was most certainly not the hardest thing I have ever done but it was hard enough that I don't want to go through it again. I stayed off because I did not want to have to quit again.
I was a 3 pack a day camel smoker.
lazs
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i smoked 2 packs of Kools a day up until i crashed a motorcycle into a palm tree. i had a broken back and wan't allowed to smoke in the hospital. my buddy brought me copenhagen snuff. i recovered.
for the next 5 years i was never without my copenhagen. i carried it in my sock. i never spit, just swallowed the juice, so i had a constant nicotine drip, and an addiction that was far worse than quitting cigarettes due simply to the higher dosage of nicotine.
then my dentist found changes in the tissue of my lower lip and sent me for a biopsy. it was negative, but pre-cancerous. that scared me enough to quite cold turkey. it was a very very hard two weeks. i felt really crazy because i would pat my ankle every 5 minutes looking for my snuff can - over and over and over and over ...... but i beat it.
i sure would like to have a cigar from time to time, but i don't dare, i know i'd wind up inhaling it.
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if ive been smoking for two years on and off, and i quit now, will i still get cancer? i mean, if i will then i'll keep smoking cause it doesn't matter and i'd rather enjoy my time remaining on earf. but if it allows me to live to 85 and have someone wiping my arse, then ill quit.
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I tried Zyban....It didn't do anything for me. A few weeks ago I started on Chantix after one of my friends who was a 2-pack a day smoker quit after smoking for over 20 years. Chantix seems to be working for me. The only complaint i have is that it makes my gut hurt a bit. I also seem to be having some wacked out dreams.
But in the end....You have to have the desire to quit or no pill in the world will help:D
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i mean, if i will then i'll keep smoking cause it doesn't matter and i'd rather enjoy my time remaining on earf.
go ahead and enjoy your time on earf. just remember that smoking will make your teefs yellow. :aok
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Originally posted by Bucky73
I tried Zyban....It didn't do anything for me. A few weeks ago I started on Chantix after one of my friends who was a 2-pack a day smoker quit after smoking for over 20 years. Chantix seems to be working for me. The only complaint i have is that it makes my gut hurt a bit. I also seem to be having some wacked out dreams.
But in the end....You have to have the desire to quit or no pill in the world will help:D
Make sure you eat before you take the chantix or you will be hurting in the stomach.
As for the wacked out dreams, well, enjoy :D
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Do you love your family? Do you want to be with them and watch kids grow up? Our is smoking and killing yourself more important?Do you want kids to visit you in the hospital or have to watch you breathe through a respirator? These are the questions I asked myself and these questions helped me stop smoking. I was killing my lungs and cheating my kids out of future time with their dad.
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Vudak, so how are you doing on that?
I quit a few months ago. Actually, I've cheated since then... but I did quit.
Hope it's going well for you.
I'd been using the gum ~ worked great. As soon as I stopped chewing the gum I started cheating... some... okay... may little more than some...
I guess after this little confessional I need to go back to quitting & chewing the gum. It really does work. :D
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A belly ache is a definite side effect of Chantix. That's the reason I stopped taking it as soon as I did.
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Smoking causes cancer when it has caused enough damage to your DNA to (A) knock out a tumor suppressor gene, and (B) mutates an onco-gene into a proto onco-gene. Both of these things need to happen in order to get cancer.
So really, smoking is kind of like playing slots. Its mutating DNA, but you don't know which DNA is messing up. Could take 50 years to accumulate enough mutations, could take 5. Each pack of cigarettes is like a pull of the handle.
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WTG on quitting.....I quit Jan 15 2007.....2 packs a day.....I smoked for 28 years!!......when times are tough and you think you need a smoke...just think of all the nasty things that smoking does to you....go look at pictures on the net of black lungs and throat cancer.
I think about people I know that at 60 years old....can't walk 20 feet without having to stop cause they can't catch their breath....think about the people that walk around with oxgen tanks.....just think of all the negitives and it will make ya want to never ever smoke again!!
And if worse comes to worse.....do what I do ......smoke a shorty lolololol
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I quit for two reasons - I was tired of the the $3 a day expense and fear of heart disease. Cigarette smoking is a great way to have a sudden and fatal heart attack. Even after quitting, I imagine my cancer chances won''t change much. I think thats more genetics. I don't believe the BS the cancer is solely from the chemicals in cigarettes. I think its a combination of chemicals and genetics.
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Those anti-smoking commercials make me want a smoke more than anything else at this point. Been over a year since I quit (quitter!) and I still find myslef reaching for my pocket in certain situations.
I used the patch, but not the full program, just went a week with the patch and then after they ran out I just suffered lol. Seriously, you can do it if you want to even if its for someone else.
Someone mentioned dreams......I still have dreams of smoking
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Good Luck
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anyone try smokeless tobacco to wean off of cigs? my friend upon quitting would take some snuff when he had the urge to smoke. he's been off nicotine for 2 years.
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i quit cold turkey after roughly 10 years. it is the single toughest thing I have ever done. I wish you all the best because I am seeing some bad health effects of my hard rock / heavy metal lifestyle I lived for soooo long as a traveling, working musician. (Luckily I was always scared of drugs, so i didnt do those) but i smoked like a chimney, drank like a fish and well ummmm i loved the women... as many and as often as possible!
Good luck!!!!! I know it will be tough but I swear it is worth the fight!!!
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Originally posted by mandingo
anyone try smokeless tobacco to wean off of cigs? my friend upon quitting would take some snuff when he had the urge to smoke. he's been off nicotine for 2 years.
The problem I have with the gum, nicotine inhaler, or even smokeless tobacco is it keeps up the habit of frequently meeting your nicotine urges. I like the patch because its a once a day thing, and ends the ritual of satisfying nicotine cravings. The gum, inhaler and chew are just different rituals, done maybe once an hour much like a cigarette. Its pretty hard to label the patch as a ritual- its more like a daily pill for 12 weeks.
Nicotine free for 1 1/2 years.
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nicotine isnt the problem for me, i just really enjoy breathing smoke.
insane.
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..........I find it helpful and reassuring seeing this thread and all the posts. I've been a smoker for 35 years. You name it, I've tried it, and have successfully failed each time, whether it was 2 days, weeks, or months.
It's only been the past few years the medical profession has acknowledged smoking is an addiction, not just a habit. I can recall a number of times going to my doctor (in the past) for help only to be insulted, or laughed at, because I didn't have the ability to control something as simple as a HABIT.
Tried the Zyban routine, and ended up with the side effect as mentioned earlier. Of course Zyban wasn't originally designed to treat nicotine addicts. However, a friend (a 30 year smoker & smoke free 7 months) of mine told me about Chantix. Started doing some research on the drug...............low and behold.........they finally developed a drug targeting nicotine addiction. Success rate 75%, and of the 25% failure rate, primary cause of failure.............quitting the medication too soon.
Well there's no time like now................went to my doctor this last Friday and had him prescribe the program to me. Started the first weeks meds today (stop smoking in one week). For the first time in 30 years I feel positive about success. Kit comes with a good support program to help get ya through the tough times.
So to those that have successgully quit, and those who are in the process..............
Rokit
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honestly, 2 years ago, nov 2005, after smoking for 5 years,i heard on the radio a doctor saying to eat babby carotts when need cigarettes and can quit smoking,
That's what i did, i went to grocery store and for 8.50$ CAD, (the price of cigarettes here), i got about 10 lbs of carotts,
but is not healhy to quit smoking cuz i gained 20 lbs since i quit, what i gaind one way lose the other,better skiny low colesterol smoker than fat *** nonsmoker
I did smoke last cigarette on 1 st. december 2005, but eat lot of carotts,like rabits, i got diarrhoea, my tooths grow up,i look like a beaver, lot of A vitamines improved my eyes view, i can see cigarettes butts on the street for half mile away,
the secret ! works for me!
(http://www.stupidcollege.com/Images/Sexy_Carrots.jpg)
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Originally posted by LTARokit
..........I find it helpful and reassuring seeing this thread and all the posts. I've been a smoker for 35 years. You name it, I've tried it, and have successfully failed each time, whether it was 2 days, weeks, or months.
It's only been the past few years the medical profession has acknowledged smoking is an addiction, not just a habit. I can recall a number of times going to my doctor (in the past) for help only to be insulted, or laughed at, because I didn't have the ability to control something as simple as a HABIT.
Tried the Zyban routine, and ended up with the side effect as mentioned earlier. Of course Zyban wasn't originally designed to treat nicotine addicts. However, a friend (a 30 year smoker & smoke free 7 months) of mine told me about Chantix. Started doing some research on the drug...............low and behold.........they finally developed a drug targeting nicotine addiction. Success rate 75%, and of the 25% failure rate, primary cause of failure.............quitting the medication too soon.
Well there's no time like now................went to my doctor this last Friday and had him prescribe the program to me. Started the first weeks meds today (stop smoking in one week). For the first time in 30 years I feel positive about success. Kit comes with a good support program to help get ya through the tough times.
So to those that have successgully quit, and those who are in the process..............
Rokit
As someone posted earlier, people's capacity for nicotine addiction differs. If you are a hard core nicotine addict, you know it. You might only smoke 15 cigarettes a day, but each one is so important - rapture in fact. Do the patches, and if you are a real heavy smoker ( 2 packs a day), don't worry about the directions on the the pack. If you are real antsy and craving nicotine 12 hours into the patch, put on another one and wean down to one per day by waiting longer and longer for that second boost. Continuing a 2 pack a day habit is more hazardous than overdosing on nicoderm. If you get queasy or a rapid heart beat, just pull of the dang patches. Then just do the program. Nicotine is a drug plain and simple, but unlike some drugs, you can wean off of nicotine.
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Originally posted by ghi
honestly, 2 years ago, nov 2005, after smoking for 5 years,i heard on the radio a doctor saying to eat babby carotts when need cigarettes and can quit smoking,
That's what i did, i went to grocery store and for 8.50$ CAD, (the price of cigarettes here), i got about 10 lbs of carotts,
but is not healhy to quit smoking cuz i gained 20 lbs since i quit, what i gaind one way lose the other,better skiny low colesterol smoker than fat *** nonsmoker
I did smoke last cigarette on 1 st. december 2005, but eat lot of carotts,like rabits, i got diarrhoea, my tooths grow up,i look like a beaver, lot of A vitamines improved my eyes view, i can see cigarettes butts on the street for half mile away,
the secret ! works for me!
(http://www.stupidcollege.com/Images/Sexy_Carrots.jpg)
:lol
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Eighteen days; 14 hours, 6 minutes, 15 seconds, and umpteen nanoseconds later (not that I'm watching the friggen clock :rolleyes: ) SMOKE FREE!! :O
Hasn't been real bad till today. New meds make a big difference. Today however is like----:O WOWZERS!! OMG!!
One day at a time :aok
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One day at a time... it'll take years before the thought of another cigarette doesn't enter your mind.
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Originally posted by lazs2
It was most certainly not the hardest thing I have ever done but it was hard enough that I don't want to go through it again. I stayed off because I did not want to have to quit again.
I was a 3 pack a day camel smoker.
lazs
3 packs a day? are you serious? :huh Glad you quit im sure you wallet is alot happier.
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I was in Quebec a few weeks ago. A pack of cigarettes was $10. :eek:
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How do you get started in the first place? Tried smoking as a teen, it made me sick, even tried to force myself but kept getting sick. I couldn't figure out why people liked to smoke, it made no sense to me.
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stick with it fellas
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When I quit a carton of ciggs was only $10.. I did not quit to save money.
You could smoke in resteraunts and theaters and everyone had ashtrays in their cars that were dirty. I smoked in peoples homes without asking.
My lung capacity was better than the guys around me who didn't smoke and I was never out of breath.. I felt no ill effects from them at all. I enjoyed smoking.
I simply got tired of being dependent and recognized that I was addicted in a very bad way.
When I quit I realized that it was hard enough to do that I never wanted to have to do it again so I have not.
If you want to quit then stop whining about it and simply do it.
lazs
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Tried the gum (made me sick) Tried the pills (made me irritable and sick wife almost shot me), tried the patch and burned hell out of my arm from reaction... This time I'll just toss the pack and hide for a couple weeks.
Originally posted by Sixpence
How do you get started in the first place? Tried smoking as a teen, it made me sick, even tried to force myself but kept getting sick. I couldn't figure out why people liked to smoke, it made no sense to me.
Count your blessings. Most of us got hooked because it was the "Cool thing" at the time. Our hero's on the silverscreen all smoked, one or both parents and then peer pressure in school...
What pisses me off is the tobacco industry loses a law suit for hooking peeps by increasing nicotine in their product... Now we find out they more than tripled the nicotine again, while saying "Smoking is bad and you should quit" Like they're making it easier by reducing the nicotine? Of course, the Feds with hands deep in tobacco pockets are turning as blind an eye, as does the drive-by media
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Originally posted by ghi
honestly, 2 years ago, nov 2005, after smoking for 5 years,i heard on the radio a doctor saying to eat babby carotts when need cigarettes and can quit smoking,
That's what i did, i went to grocery store and for 8.50$ CAD, (the price of cigarettes here), i got about 10 lbs of carotts,
but is not healhy to quit smoking cuz i gained 20 lbs since i quit, what i gaind one way lose the other,better skiny low colesterol smoker than fat *** nonsmoker
I did smoke last cigarette on 1 st. december 2005, but eat lot of carotts,like rabits, i got diarrhoea, my tooths grow up,i look like a beaver, lot of A vitamines improved my eyes view, i can see cigarettes butts on the street for half mile away,
the secret ! works for me!
(http://www.stupidcollege.com/Images/Sexy_Carrots.jpg)
:rofl :aok
Made my day.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Did you know eating too many carrots turns your skin orangish? True story guys. I can't locate the link, but I seen the results in my sis in-law. She reminded me of on of them Loompa's
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so it's not your fault that you got hooked?
Sheesh.. just quit. don't jerk around with all the silly cures just quit putting the damn things in your mouth and lighting them.
If you really hate the companies so much then simply quit using their product... I would not be surprised if they owned most of the "smokeless" cures.
lazs
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WTG vudak! Great job, keep it up!
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Originally posted by lazs2
so it's not your fault that you got hooked?
lazs
Dadnabbit Laz! I said the tobacco industry made it harder to QUIT! I know full well who's damn fault it was that I started.
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i went from being a marathon runner to 2 packs a day...smoke bongs now too...add the daily double of scotch and a smatten of Tankhouse ale's(Millstreet Breweries)
ciggarettes are a "gateway drug" to other addictions(some legal)
There is nothing more sinister than something that is legal..something that is advertised..that pulls you into the realm of addiction hell.
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I'm also off the flaming cancer sticks for about a month and have been on a prescribed medication to help me, http://www.chantex.info. I spend less money on this med than smokes and it really helps. It has all the standard side effects but I figure it is worth it. Durring weeks 2 and 3 i still had the jonesing for a smoke but now I feel I'm over the hump. I'll continue chantex for up to 3 months, longer if I feel I need it. Now I just have to stop eating so much.
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Originally posted by lazs2
When I quit a carton of ciggs was only $10.. I did not quit to save money.
You could smoke in resteraunts and theaters and everyone had ashtrays in their cars that were dirty. I smoked in peoples homes without asking.
My lung capacity was better than the guys around me who didn't smoke and I was never out of breath.. I felt no ill effects from them at all. I enjoyed smoking.
I simply got tired of being dependent and recognized that I was addicted in a very bad way.
When I quit I realized that it was hard enough to do that I never wanted to have to do it again so I have not.
If you want to quit then stop whining about it and simply do it.
lazs
gold advice.
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I started with Chantix 2 weeks ago . Was a 2.5 to 3 pack a day winston reds for 28 years.
I am simply amazed by Chantix , had 2 cigs the first day of quiting. Been good since then. But I really didn't have any physical withdrawals like the other times I tried to quit with the patch and 1 other gimic. Before it was like an elephent was jumping on my chest with two saddle bags of smokes screaming at me, take one take one.
Now after 1 week of not smoking for the first time ever I know I can succeed at this not smoking. I never before had manged to make 24 hours with out a smoke.
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Originally posted by ghi
:lol :lol
You rule ghi.
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Going cold turkey sucks. :huh :O :(
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Originally posted by hitech
Now after 1 week of not smoking for the first time ever I know I can succeed at this not smoking.
I have this feeling too and it is absolutely amazing how powerful it is.:aok
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Originally posted by hitech
I started with Chantix 2 weeks ago . Was a 2.5 to 3 pack a day winston reds for 28 years.
I am simply amazed by Chantix , had 2 cigs the first day of quiting. Been good since then. But I really didn't have any physical withdrawals like the other times I tried to quit with the patch and 1 other gimic. Before it was like an elephent was jumping on my chest with two saddle bags of smokes screaming at me, take one take one.
Now after 1 week of not smoking for the first time ever I know I can succeed at this not smoking. I never before had manged to make 24 hours with out a smoke.
Yikes chest jumping.
Question: How expensive is Chantix? Got a friend whose 55 and claims all the meds will restrict him from his airline pilot job. We, his friends, think that's just another excuse to not quit. He recently had a hyper-thyroid scare that landed him in the cardiac care unit for 2 days due to a very high heart rate. He was smoking on the way home. :huh
So, if this stuff is affordable and wont affect his airline ticket, we'd like to suggest it to him. Its ultimately his choice, of course.
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LePaul: Im grounded until off of Chantix. FAA might approve it this summer, but not sure.
Cost is around 25 a week.
HiTech
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Ahh dang.
He wont take it then. Which is disappointing because Ive read many statements like yours, showing a high success rate.
Thanks for the reply.
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Originally posted by hitech
I started with Chantix 2 weeks ago . Was a 2.5 to 3 pack a day winston reds for 28 years.
I am simply amazed by Chantix , had 2 cigs the first day of quiting. Been good since then. But I really didn't have any physical withdrawals like the other times I tried to quit with the patch and 1 other gimic. Before it was like an elephent was jumping on my chest with two saddle bags of smokes screaming at me, take one take one.
Now after 1 week of not smoking for the first time ever I know I can succeed at this not smoking. I never before had manged to make 24 hours with out a smoke.
wtg HT :aok COPD sucks and the sooner you quit the less severe it will be.
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Originally posted by hitech
LePaul: Im grounded until off of Chantix. FAA might approve it this summer, but not sure.
Cost is around 25 a week.
HiTech
Grats HT!
Yeah Chantrix is about the cost of a 2 pack a day habit a week, maybe a carton a week in some areas.
Worked great if it wasn't for the reaction I had to the little pills. :(
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Originally posted by Odee
Grats HT!
Yeah Chantrix is about the cost of a 2 pack a day habit a week, maybe a carton a week in some areas.
Worked great if it wasn't for the reaction I had to the little pills. :(
What reaction?
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http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2007/05/10/ecigarette_make.html
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Originally posted by Sandman
http://blog.scifi.com/tech/archives/2007/05/10/ecigarette_make.html
The reference to Bob Marley dieing...He injured his big toe playing soccer(he didn't wear shoes)..It got infected and developed cancer from it..He refused to amputate his toe and it turned into cancer which spread and quickly consumed him.
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Originally posted by LTARokit
What reaction?
Intense dreaming. Sleepy all the time. Some mild nausea, for starters. The last two were killing me at work.
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Originally posted by SirLoin
The reference to Bob Marley dieing...He injured his big toe playing soccer(he didn't wear shoes)..It got infected and developed cancer from it..He refused to amputate his toe and it turned into cancer which spread and quickly consumed him.
You're partially correct. Diabetes got him. His big toe did get infected, and it turned to blood poisoning, then gangrene, and that's what got him.
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I am glad that some of you have found a drug that works to get you to stop smoking.. If it works I say do it.
I did not find it that hard tho to kick a 3 pack a day unfiltered camel habit.
Whatever you take tho.. make sure you know all the risks of the drug.
lazs