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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Larry on April 12, 2007, 01:33:51 AM
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Hope Skuzzy doesn't move this so everyone can get this info. Hope it helps you GV guys out and gives you an idea to where to hit the evemy. :aok
Edit: Here (http://www.wwiivehicles.com/index.htm) is WW2 Vehicle info URL
Serman VC Firefly
Weapon
76.2 mm2
Type of Ammunition
17 pdr (3") Mk IV, L/60
Weight
17lbs.
Velocity
2,980ft/sec
Thickness of armor penetrated
6"@30° at 100 yards
Armor Thickness (mm)
Front: 2"@46°
Side: 1.5"
Hull Front, Upper 50.8
Hull Sides, Upper 38.1
Hull Rear 38.1
Hull Top 19
Hull Bottom 12.7-25.4
Turret Front 3"
Turret Sides 2"
Turret Rear 50.8
Turret Top 25.4
T34/76
Weapon
76.2 mm F-34 L/42.5, L/41.51(1940 & 1942)
Type of Ammunition
BR-350A1 APHE
Weight
6.3 kg1
Velocity
2,150 ft/sec, 662 m/sec
Thickness of armor penetrated (range meters)
1M
90mm
500M
69mm
1000M
61mm
Armor Thickness (mm)
Hull Front, Upper 47
Hull Sides, Upper 40-45
Hull Rear 45
Hull Top 15-20
Hull Bottom 20
Turret Front 70
Turret Sides 52
Turret Rear 52
Turret Top 16
Tiger
Weapon
88 mm KwK 36 L/56
Weight
27.33 lb
Velocity
2,536ft/sec
Thickness of armor penetrated (range meters)
100
120
500
110
1000
99
1500
91
2000
84
2500
80
Armor Thickness (mm)
Hull Front, Upper 100
Hull Front, Lower 62@60°
Hull Sides, Upper 82
Hull Sides, Lower 62
Hull Rear 80
Hull Top 25
Hull Bottom 25
Turret Front 4"
Turret Sides 3.2"
Turret Rear 80
Turret Top 25
Panzer IV H
Weapon
75 mm KwK 40 L/48
Weight
18.22 lb
Velocity
2,428ft./sec
Thickness of armor penetrated (range meters)
100
99
500
91
1000
81
1500
72
2000
63
2500
?
Armor Thickness (mm)
Hull Front, Upper 80@10°
Hull Front, Lower 25
Hull Sides, Upper 30
Hull Sides, Lower 30
Hull Rear 20@8°
Hull Top 12@85°-90°
Hull Bottom 10@90°
Turret Front 2"
Turret Sides 1.2"
Turret Rear 30@15°
Turret Top 10@74°
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Link says page error.
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pretty much you get a kill hitting a Sherman or Panzer almost anywhere when using a Sherman.
Hell, I hit a Sherman in the tracks (from the front) and killed it when hitting it from a Sherman.
I get very few richochets on Panzers from a Sherman.
I witnessed a Sherman killing a Tiger from 600 yards out with one shot.
T-34 angled armour on the front is no match for the Shermans gun out to 800 yards.
Sherman... great gun. Terrible armour.
Love the sound of the shell bouncing off the floor after the gun is fired. However, I have been hearing a LOT of double reports when firing the gun. The boom plays twice. Very confusing in TT.
Softail
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Originally posted by Softail
I witnessed a Sherman killing a Tiger from 600 yards out with one shot.
Softail
nothing new!
i witnessed a documentary movie on History about "WW2 best fighter "where P51 Mustang was the best #1 and Me262 was #7
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for the metric challanged, 6" of armor is 152mm
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Originally posted by E25280
Link says page error.
Yes but when it loads up it has icons on the left sidebar. Click one to open a dropdown menu and so on.
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T3h Sherman VC was t3h bestest tank of WWII! It absalootlee domanated evreething that stood in it's path!
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i had a tigr taken out 1 shot from 1600 by a sherman :( tigrs are next to worthless
HVAP shot for the T34s isn't what i thought it would be. Several times i have had to shoot shermans 3-4 times in the front armor from 400-600
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Three richochets on a Sherman turret from my panzer at 600.
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Thats the problem don't shoot thier turrets. One hit anywere else should kill them.
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Originally posted by 68slayr
i had a tigr taken out 1 shot from 1600 by a sherman :( tigrs are next to worthless
Guess I should have burned those GV perkies...........
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Well I havent even botherd to up a tiger yet. The ones I see that do manage to live what maybe 5 seconds long if that guess Ill have a lot of perks unspend from now on until something else gets added thats more "uber"
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Originally posted by theNewB
Well I havent even botherd to up a tiger yet. The ones I see that do manage to live what maybe 5 seconds long if that guess Ill have a lot of perks unspend from now on until something else gets added thats more "uber"
KING TIGER!!1!!1!1!!1!!! WITH A N00K ON ITS ROOF!!!!!1!1!111!1!!!!!!!!
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Killed a few tigers with 1 shot. That gun on the Firefly is wicked bad. I think the days of the perked Tiger are numbered.
Took a T34 up with the HVAP loadout. It'll kill tanks now, which is something I never had much luck with in the past. Don't know if that's necessarily due to the new ammo, or the tweaking of ballistics and armor, but it works.
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Took a T34 up with the HVAP loadout. It'll kill tanks now, which is something I never had much luck with in the past. Don't know if that's necessarily due to the new ammo, or the tweaking of ballistics and armor, but it works.
The old T34 AP was always able to kill Panzers and T34s if you hit the right spot at the right angle. It was never able to kill Tigers except at point blank with 9 rounds. The new HVAP can now kill Tigers at short range, including taking out the turret in one shot. However, it cannot easily kill the new Super Sherman, even at point blank range. So yes, I would say the Tiger will now be a hanger queen. (Or would that be a garage queen?)
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Originally posted by Larry
Thats the problem don't shoot their turrets. One hit anywere else should kill them.
I've hit Super Shermans at point blank range with T34 HVAP into the tracks and sides and not only didn't kill them, I didn't even damage them. The few times I damaged them it had to be a 90 degree normal shot into the side or track at point blank range.
So maybe it should kill them, but it doesn't.
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nailed a sherman 4 times in the side with a tiger..nothing....he swung turret and pop go's the weasel:rolleyes:
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I killed a Firefly with a broadside from the 110. I was so low i was about coalt with him, got a good burst right into his side.
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Yesterday, first day in the Sherm.
Popped 1 pnzr
popped 3 sherms
popped 2 osties
Defending a town
Some shots were High arc f8 shots at 3200 or better.
I only spent about 1/2 hour in it but I like the views and that gun.
HTC
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Originally posted by 715
I've hit Super Shermans at point blank range with T34 HVAP into the tracks and sides and not only didn't kill them, I didn't even damage them. The few times I damaged them it had to be a 90 degree normal shot into the side or track at point blank range.
So maybe it should kill them, but it doesn't.
I dont drive T34s that much so I wouldnt know. Panzers do a fast job of sermans but if they hit you its over with. I took a tiger out the other day to a sqawn and got hit about 6 times from about 1800-2400 and didnt get damaged took out 5 sermans and 2 tigers and I wasnt camping it I was about 3k away from it and let them come to me. My first shot bounced off the sermans turret so I only shoot at the driver ever since I get 1 shot kills in a tiger and panzer.
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Originally posted by Furball
I killed a Firefly with a broadside from the 110. I was so low i was about coalt with him, got a good burst right into his side.
I killed a sherman head on with a maned ack only 4 shots and he went boom.
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I noticed that the T-34 gun seems to fire about 50% faster.
However...I'd think that the HVAP ammo would knock a sherman(of any mark) out in 1 shot. Furthermore, The Tiger's 88 should go through a sherman lengthwise at any engageable range. There have been alot of reports about the Firefly withstanding hits that put any other tank back in the tower. The Sherman's got an armor bug that needs fixing.
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what Frode said.;)
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Just wanted to bring this post back to the top.:aok
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
I noticed that the T-34 gun seems to fire about 50% faster.
However...I'd think that the HVAP ammo would knock a sherman(of any mark) out in 1 shot. Furthermore, The Tiger's 88 should go through a sherman lengthwise at any engageable range. There have been alot of reports about the Firefly withstanding hits that put any other tank back in the tower. The Sherman's got an armor bug that needs fixing.
Well, i got 2 films of that:
1: Missed a tiger with 2 pings from away, before that hited twice a Sherman on turret and no damage plus got assist. (that 1 was killed by 1 hit by sherman)
2: Hited a tiger ONCE on turret, direct hit to tower...
Man, that was sad, I'll post the films in this days.
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Sherman owns all :aok :aok :aok :D :D :rofl :rofl
also it makes for a nice anit-aircraft gun
:noid :noid :noid
all
~VansCrew~
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Ok I keep seeing people quoting armor thickness for the PZ IV... is anyone taking into account the skirts?
While they may not seem like much, I'd imagine they might take a fair bit away from the punch of a round...
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Originally posted by SKurj
Ok I keep seeing people quoting armor thickness for the PZ IV... is anyone taking into account the skirts?
While they may not seem like much, I'd imagine they might take a fair bit away from the punch of a round...
I killed a Panzer IV through the side skirt with an M8's 37mm cannon a couple of days ago.
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The skirts on the Panzer IV are soft steel 5mm thick to detonate bazooka rounds.
Little to no effect on armor piercing ammo penetration.