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Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: AApache on April 12, 2007, 11:38:33 AM
We are very happy to see the new additions to the game and terrain. It would have really been nice to have the flame thrower option added on it's ordinance roster. I guess I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth and just say thank you and H.T.C.  .
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Karnak on April 12, 2007, 12:35:55 PM
Firefly didn't ever have a flame thrower.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: frank3 on April 12, 2007, 12:58:28 PM
Wouldn't know what to use the flamethrowers for (except for troops, which you rarely see)
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 12, 2007, 01:23:33 PM
it would look cool though at night.

"Look I'm a dragon!"


ack-ack
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: frank3 on April 12, 2007, 01:52:03 PM
if you're on fire :D
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Hornet33 on April 12, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Firefly didn't ever have a flame thrower.


Thanks!!!!!! These guys kill me:rofl
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Krusty on April 12, 2007, 03:04:56 PM
I think he's talking about when they would open the breach, shove a flamethrower in there, and fire it. Flame would come out the main gun barrel.

Wasn't part of the tank. Definitely wasn't standard.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Hornet33 on April 12, 2007, 03:11:53 PM
Never heard of that before. Who in their right mind would use a portable flame thrower inside a closed turret?? I know I wouldn't even if I had the thing stuck in the breach. Too many BAD things can happen there.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Krusty on April 12, 2007, 03:23:11 PM
It's basically just a pipe, when you open the breach. It worked, containing the napalm/accelerant until it exited the barrel and hits its target.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Hornet33 on April 12, 2007, 03:25:28 PM
Oh I believe it worked and I'm sure people did it, but there is NO WAY you'd see me trying it. Screw that!!!!!! I'm not that crazy.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Makoyouidiot on April 12, 2007, 04:03:14 PM
sounds like fun, someone lend me a sherman and a flamethrower, the film will be on youtube :)
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: WMDnow on April 12, 2007, 04:07:51 PM
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Originally posted by frank3
Wouldn't know what to use the flamethrowers for (except for troops, which you rarely see)


Im glad he didn't think of my jeep... OH CRAP!
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Denholm on April 12, 2007, 04:49:22 PM
Wow, now you're not only gonna try to shoot my plane buzzing you with your Main Turret, you're gonna try to use a flamethrower?:O
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: frank3 on April 13, 2007, 07:11:17 AM
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Originally posted by WMDnow
Im glad he didn't think of my jeep... OH CRAP!


LOL
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: AApache on April 13, 2007, 09:44:07 AM
Although most origional WWII documents were lost. This data came through AAolds Grandfather who was an actual WWII tanker.How much more precise can you get as far as source of data.Although I understand your inquiries on whee you would mount it and all the other arguments.I'm sure AAolds will dig deeper into this topic .These threads are meant to promote  intellectual debates and conversations.Some seem to feel better by trying to discredit or insult others but we do not get our kicks that way. Trying to make someone else feel or sound bad is not what makes us feel better.It only shows one's own true ignorance.For all who gave intelligent replies and raised genuine concerns ,thank you and
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: AAolds on April 13, 2007, 09:53:13 AM
For the record, it was my Uncle.   He said some had flamethrowers that were attached in the field.  Can I or anyone else be 100% sure of the accuracy of his claim?  Probably not, but ill take his word for it.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Airscrew on April 13, 2007, 11:23:32 AM
Uncle, Grandfather, or Military Channel?  
from the Firefly thread in Aircraft and Vehicles Forum
 
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203145
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Originally posted by AAolds
Combat Footage on the Military Channel about Iwo Jima. I think it was the show Battlefront. I could be wrong, as could the rest of ya.


now you say
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Originally posted by AAolds
For the record, it was my Uncle. He said some had flamethrowers that were attached in the field. Can I or anyone else be 100% sure of the accuracy of his claim? Probably not, but ill take his word for it.


The Sherman FireFly did not come equiped with a Flamethrower.  

Not all Shermans are the same...
as Akak posted in the other thread
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M4A3R3 - Sherman tank used during Operation Overlord (1944) and in the Battle of Iwo Jima (1945)

M4 Crocodile - four M4 tanks converted by British for US 2nd Armored Division in NW Europe with the same armored fuel trailer as used on Churchill but the fuel line went over the hull.


British Army had FireFlys.   So far I have not found any confirmed American Fireflys,  alot of us looked.  

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201419&highlight=firefly

There was supposed to have been 80 Fireflys converted over to US 3rd Army but documentation suggests that it never happened.   What unit was your Uncle attached to?
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: AAolds on April 13, 2007, 11:36:17 AM
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Originally posted by Airscrew
Uncle, Grandfather, or Military Channel?  
from the Firefly thread in Aircraft and Vehicles Forum
 
http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203145


now you say


The Sherman FireFly did not come equiped with a Flamethrower.  

Not all Shermans are the same...
as Akak posted in the other thread


British Army had FireFlys.   So far I have not found any confirmed American Fireflys,  alot of us looked.  

http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=201419&highlight=firefly

There was supposed to have been 80 Fireflys converted over to US 3rd Army but documentation suggests that it never happened.   What unit was your Uncle attached to?


I just talked with my uncle or my previous posts would have mentioned it.  Get over yourselves.  Im not sitting here claiming to be an expert on the subject.  Anyone here a WWII tank expert?  I know im not.  Due to the childish badgering and insults on chan 200, this will be my last post on this matter.  My uncle is very old now and does not like being bothered with knit picking over the war.  Ill take his word for it, especially since he does not take well to being questioned.  Continue to argue amongst yourselves.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Hornet33 on April 13, 2007, 11:46:27 AM
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Originally posted by AAolds
For the record, it was my Uncle.   He said some had flamethrowers that were attached in the field.  Can I or anyone else be 100% sure of the accuracy of his claim?  Probably not, but ill take his word for it.


Your uncle is correct that some Sherman variants did come equiped with a flame thrower. The Firefly was not one of them.

Just a suggestion here, but you have access on these forums to people that have been researching and studying WWII for 20, 30, 40 years. Some even longer than that. Instead of coming on here and saying, "I'm right and all of you are wrong because my uncle told me so, and I saw it on TV" you might want to do some independant research on your own.

Many people have posted links to the correct information. You have provided NO proof to back up your claim. Hmmmm who would I listen too??

I'll take the word of a person who provides specific data that supports a claim concerning information regarding a plane, tank, ship, or anything else for that matter, over some kid who's only referance is, "I saw it on TV, and my uncle told me."

The simple truth of the matter is this. You DO NOT know what you are talking about and no one is going to take anything you say seriously until you demonstrate some maturity and a willingness to investigate and learn about whatever topic you want to discuss.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: tedrbr on April 13, 2007, 12:09:34 PM
Been several postings about Sherman and flamethrower.

I have to ask:

What, in THIS GAME, are you going to use a FLAMETHROWER on?  Running troops at nearly point blank range?  You want to replace the coax or main gun for THAT ability?

(http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/confused0081.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com)
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Larry on April 13, 2007, 12:32:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hornet33
Your uncle is correct that some Sherman variants did come equiped with a flame thrower. The Firefly was not one of them.

Just a suggestion here, but you have access on these forums to people that have been researching and studying WWII for 20, 30, 40 years. Some even longer than that. Instead of coming on here and saying, "I'm right and all of you are wrong because my uncle told me so, and I saw it on TV" you might want to do some independant research on your own.

Many people have posted links to the correct information. You have provided NO proof to back up your claim. Hmmmm who would I listen too??

I'll take the word of a person who provides specific data that supports a claim concerning information regarding a plane, tank, ship, or anything else for that matter, over some kid who's only referance is, "I saw it on TV, and my uncle told me."

The simple truth of the matter is this. You DO NOT know what you are talking about and no one is going to take anything you say seriously until you demonstrate some maturity and a willingness to investigate and learn about whatever topic you want to discuss.



Thank you.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: AAolds on April 13, 2007, 12:49:14 PM
Reposted from another thread:

After bugging my Uncle more about the matter (cost me a 6 pack, well worth the cost), he  confirmed that his tank was not a "firefly".   I had heard him wrong, his tank did have a flamethrower as he was on Iwo Jima and he said that it sure did make the fire fly on the Japanese.

I WAS WRONG.  Now go back to having fun or I'll be wrong about something else.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Fianna on April 13, 2007, 01:24:44 PM
What unit was your uncle in?
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 13, 2007, 01:28:38 PM
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Been several postings about Sherman and flamethrower.

I have to ask:

What, in THIS GAME, are you going to use a FLAMETHROWER on?  




We could use them to roast the sheep and have BBQs on the beach.  We could even get some surf boards now that we have a beach and Charlie doesn't surf.


ack-ack
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Airscrew on April 13, 2007, 02:07:38 PM
You either surf or you fight.

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Airscrew/apocalypse_38.jpg)

Napalm, son. Nothing in the world smells like that.
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: frank3 on April 15, 2007, 03:11:48 PM
'I love the smell of napalm in the morning' :D
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Spy15 on April 15, 2007, 04:35:36 PM
ummm.... an ax on the back! What could I uses that for? :rofl :noid
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Flame 2 the boy on April 15, 2007, 05:59:41 PM
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Originally posted by tedrbr
Been several postings about Sherman and flamethrower.

I have to ask:

What, in THIS GAME, are you going to use a FLAMETHROWER on?  Running troops at nearly point blank range?  You want to replace the coax or main gun for THAT ability?

(http://www.thesmilies.com/smilies/confused0081.gif) (http://www.thesmilies.com)


u could always torch a town....or roast lost sheep :aok  lol
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: frank3 on April 16, 2007, 11:21:01 AM
Hehe poor sheep (perhaps that's why they "dissappeared")

Nice avatar there Flame Boy :)
Title: Sherman Firefly
Post by: Spy15 on April 16, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
:rofl :rofl