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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: Caligula the one and only on April 10, 2001, 03:15:00 AM
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I just got this new GF2 Ultra vidcard.
after i installed it I was getting 60-80FPS.
I went into settings,messed arund a little,and my FPS dropped to 15-30.
I reissued default settings,FR stayed the same.
Can someone please help me out,what these settings should be,to get best quality and performance?
sys specs are:
AMD 1.2Ghz CPU
asus A7V motherboard
518 mb SDRAM
SBlive soundcard
seagate 7200rpm HDD
Thanks
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Go here: http://www.guru3d.com/ (http://www.guru3d.com/)
and download the GeForce Tweak utility. select FAST SETTINGS. Anymore questions go to the Forum on this page, very useful info and lots of fast replies.
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Thanks Rip
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heh, i did the same thing once....
check the FSAA! make sure it is off.
just a thought.
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Originally posted by mason22:
check the FSAA! make sure it is off.
What's FSAA?
DamnedMax
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Its Anti-Aliasing, makes those little jagged lines just alittle less jagged, at the cost of frame rate loss.
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Would I find that in CP Monitor settings?
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You would find it under the advanced settings of your video card, most likely in CONTROL PANEL/DISPLAY.
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Thanks (again) Ripsnort
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Buddy of mine just bought himself a pc box to get onboard with AH...used to be WB on MAC...talk about lifestyle changes <G>
Anyway, he's getting FR in the mid-30's His sys =
HP
P3/1ooomhz
128 ram
NVIDIA Vanta HP 16m 3D card
He's got AH screen res set at 600x800.
Any ideas how to up his FR?
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Yes, Read these: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum10/HTML/000751.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum10/HTML/000751.html)
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum10/HTML/000752.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/Forum10/HTML/000752.html)
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 04-18-2001).]
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Again, the easiest thing to do if you have a GeForce card (after tweaking your system as Bloom suggests in the above threads) is to download the GeForce Tweak utility http://www.guru3d.com/ (http://www.guru3d.com/)
and select FAST SETTINGS tab in the lower right hand corner, but, make sure V-SYNC is ENABLED, or you might end up with some funny gunnery business. Then SEND TO TRAY button.
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I don't think the nvidia vanta card is considered geforce 2 but I'll try your suggestion on my own card which is.
NVIDIA suggests installing Detonator 3 drivers with his, or any, nvidia card. Since his system is new, he might already have the D3...dunno.
btw, I tried a couple of Blooms tweaks on my machine the other day...they didn't seem to make a difference tho I started with FR's in the mid 70's (600x800)
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The only way you can tell is by using the a AH benchmark:
Aces High 1.x - BENCHMARK TEST PROCEDURE FOR the PC
1.
Verify that you are running the current Aces High FE
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Ensure that no other programs are running in the background
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Start the Aces High program
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Click Video button
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Choose video resolution and check 32 bits of color resolution (65,536 colors)
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Click Offline button
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Terrain distance shall be set to medium (shift F2)
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Go to Setup
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Click Terrain button and select ndisles terrain
7.
Go to Hangar
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Select B-17G with 100% fuel, 24x100 lbers and MG
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Go to Map
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Select country (Bishops) and field (A1)
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Click 'H' button (to go to the hangar of F1)
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Start engines with idle throttle
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Press 'CTRL-C' and choose Clutter off
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Bring up the clipboard (Esc)
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Hit home key to assure you are in default view
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Press 'Ctrl-I' to get the FPS value displayed in the screen
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The FPS value will be fluctuating. Record the average value, during first 30 second
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Hiya Dmax,
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but that Nvidia Vanta card is NOT a GEforce card, it's a TNTII and worse yet, it's a crippled version of a TNTII. They are junk and shouldnt even be called a TNTII as they give lower framerate than a TNT I. It has 1/2 the memory of a true TNTII and also a 64 bit data bus as opposed to 128 bit. It is an absolute bottleneck to your friends system and no amount of tweaking can help it.
He really needs to get a decent card to match his system. Fortunately they are very affordable these days and almost anything he would find, depending on his budget, will give a huge boost in framerates on his system. Tell him to post here with the amount he would like to spend and we can help him chose the right card.
kbman
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Kbman speaks the truth, went from Ultra TNT2 32 meg card to GeForce II 32 meg card, night and day difference. You can get a GeForce MX card for about $70 bucks these days, or a Pro for about $160.
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My box shipped with a Geforce2GTS 32meg which is tweaked over 100 FPS.
Where does that fall between the MX and Pro?
If you were gonna spend $100 +/- what would you get?
DMax
Appreciate all the feedback guys !
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GTS and Pro: Pro can be overclocked (both memory and chip)...other than that, not much difference from what I've heard...
Geforce MX is the best bang for that kinda buck as noted from users on this BBS.
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Does overclocking a GTS have any risks?
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I'm not even sure if you can...go to the forums here: http://www.guru3d.com/ (http://www.guru3d.com/)
This is a great place for answers!
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I've got mine overclocked DMax. Overclocking the video card GPU won't help, all modern video cards are limited by memory. Overclocking the video card ram will help a little. I personally have my vid card ram overclocked from 333 Mhz to 350 Mhz. (Most video card ram on GF2s are 350 Mhz ram, so going to this setting should be within specs.) If you are running the detonators programs like powerstrip and the "coolbits" tweak should allow this. Asus video card users can just download their tweak utility.
Your friend will never get a good Frame rate with that card. It is what they called a tnt2 m64, and they were junk when they were new - 2 years ago! The fact that they are still being put into systems just goes to show just what companies will do to save a buck. What does happen, and is even worse, is often this card is integrated onto the MB. Often times you will NOT even have an AGP slot to upgrade the video card. If you find that to be true your only option is to get a PCI video card. About the only one left is the V5 5500 PCI version, but 3dfx no longer exists anymore. Honestly if your friend does not have an AGP slot because the company has cut corners and integrated the tnt2 m64 I'd highly recommend getting a refund on the system if possible. Usually systems that have this done use the absolute lowest quality components. (Any chance your friend bought a Compaq? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) )
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Originally posted by bloom25:
(Any chance your friend bought a Compaq? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif) )
Nope, worse - a HP. To make matters worse, he came home after going out to CompUSA for a GeForce 2MX to find his power supply fried...this is after spending half a day d/ling AH and a few other goodies I suggested. Mind you this is a 10+ year Mac user who bought a PC box mainly for AH.
Think I'll stay in bed tomorrow and not answer the phone (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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Ah, those HPs are almost as bad. They use a non standard power supply that is only rated at 160W. Fortunately (unlike E-machines) a standard sized power supply *should* fit without a problem. The difference is that the HP supplies are exactly 1" shorter. I'd put at least a 250W in there, 300W would be even better.
I hate to say it, but HP has really gone downhill lately in product quality. They went from #1 to third worst IMO. Only compaq and e-machines would rate worse. The old worst on my list, Packard Bell, went out of business a couple years ago.
There are only 3 things that I will still buy from HP: Printers, Scanners, and certain models of CD burners. (Most of their burners are made by Sony in case you didn't know. )
I just hope he has an AGP slot...
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bloom25
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Bloom, which are your top 3?
As a long time MAC user, I had to be bound and gagged into the PC world. I'm on Dell #2 now, a sweet 4100 running a P3 @1000 Mgz. I've found Dell to be a class act with 1st quality support. My only regret was losing Win98SE to ME.
DamnedMax
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In my experience, if you are going to go with a big OEM, go with Dell. It's what I recommend to non-tech-savy friends and relatives who I don't want bugging me all the time. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
For gaming, some of the specialist builders like Alienware or Falcon might be an interesting choice. I don't have any experience with them personally, so I can't say. Some of their gear gets very good ratings in magazines like Maximum PC that demand high performance and high quality.
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