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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Larry on April 15, 2007, 04:19:47 AM
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"Tank Town" spawns way to close. So close you can camp other spawns from your own.
New Terrain = no cover for tanks coming into a town.
Tanks get stuck in the sand. Iv seen this happen a few times and had it happen to me once.
Lake in town looks just like new terrain.
Ever since new version one shot kills are alot more prolific.
Is it just me or is GVing more difficult?
This is not a whine I'm just stating the obvious.
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Tank Town is a cheap thrill. No die-hard tanker should go there and take it seriously. It's as arcade as it comes in that square mile of the map. It's so much like Space Invaders in there you might as well download the Atari soundpack.
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I think it's just a by-product of old map designs Larry. With each conversion of map through the versions for years and years, every map slowly gets worse and worse.
I only hope that those who know how to make maps, can come up with a new map using the full potential of the new terrain, and also perhaps fix some of the issues and problems with the old maps.
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Yes, HTC hate tanks, they know that you know they do, and they also know that you know that they know you know :noid
Seriously tho, I hope the softer GV armor was a realistic revision.
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AHHH, maybe my memory is screwed up, but geez, I remember towing plenty of lvt's, and sometimes tanks outta quagmire. Tanks really get stuck from time to time with boot newb drivers. I dont think that is "unrealistic".
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oh btw, when your stuck, your even a bigger,slower target. It behooves you not to do that again.
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Big banner at the HTC office:
HTC OFFICE RULES:
Rule #1: Eliminate as many customers as possible by not making the game exactly the way each individual customer wants it.
Rule #2: Live for and laugh at all whines.
Rule #3: Try to go bankrupt as soon as possible.
Rule #4: Blame Skuzzy.
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Originally posted by ColKLink
oh btw, when your stuck, your even a bigger,slower target. It behooves you not to do that again.
Iv seen people get stuck near sand but they were on green. If HTC made it so you get stuck in sand they should model a way to get unstuck other then .ef. Eskimo alot of people GV in AH and rolling over be driving over a birdge or getting to close to a gun isnt fun. Some people are going to blab out if it rolls you don't get near it. Thats not fixing it its avoiding it.
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not sure but will supplies get you unstuck?
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Originally posted by jon
not sure but will supplies get you unstuck?
Don't think so.
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Big banner at the HTC office:
HTC OFFICE RULES:
Rule #1: Eliminate as many customers as possible by not making the game exactly the way each individual customer wants it.
Rule #2: Live for and laugh at all whines.
Rule #3: Try to go bankrupt as soon as possible.
Rule #4: Blame Skuzzy.
Actually, I think Skuzzy took a magic marker and changed rule 4 to "Blame Waffle".
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it's always "blame the new guy".... I left a nice adjective out of that quote as well......
:)
btw tank town spawns haven't changed.... but we are looking at few issues in/around tank town.
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behooves
When I get out of the Army, so help me God, if anyone uses that damn term to me in person I will drag them by their short hairs into a dark alley and remove their tongue with a spoon while informing in a very soft voice "it would behoove you to never use that word ever again".
Very over used term by halfwits who wouldn't begin to be able to define it, they just say it cause they think it makes them sound intelligent but instead points out their ignorance of the English dialect.
Steps off soap box... carry on all.
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Originally posted by VWE
When I get out of the Army, so help me God, if anyone uses that damn term to me in person I will drag them by their short hairs into a dark alley and remove their tongue with a spoon while informing in a very soft voice "it would behoove you to never use that word ever again".
LMAO! If that wasnt so long I'd use it for my sig. Good stuff VWE.
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Originally posted by VWE
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Very over used term by halfwits who wouldn't begin to be able to define it, they just say it cause they think it makes them sound intelligent but instead points out their ignorance of the English dialect.
be·hoove(b-hv)
v. be·hooved, be·hoov·ing, be·hooves
v.tr.
To be necessary or proper for: It behooves you at least to try.
v.intr.
To be necessary or proper.
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[Middle English behoven, from Old English behfian; see kap- in Indo-European roots.]
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Originally posted by moot
Yes, HTC hate tanks, they know that you know they do, and they also know that you know that they know you know :noid
Seriously tho, I hope the softer GV armor was a realistic revision.
:rofl
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Originally posted by Waffle
it's always "blame the new guy".... I left a nice adjective out of that quote as well......
:)
btw tank town spawns haven't changed.... but we are looking at few issues in/around tank town.
Does that include making landingspots somewere in TT? Driving back in a Firefly isnt too much pain but the now nutered but still costly tiger takes ages to get back so i just ditch it.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Does that include making landingspots somewere in TT? Driving back in a Firefly isnt too much pain but the now nutered but still costly tiger takes ages to get back so i just ditch it.
Now neutered? I just signed in to D/L the new version & take the sherman for a test spin but couldn't in the orange LW arena so I didn't do much of anything....was the Tiger weakened for some reason? I hope not, it'd be silly to add the Firefly only to slit the Tigers throat, it is still the king of the battlefield after all. I was looking forward to some good GV battles; I even brought my own cheese to go with the vintage whine.
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Greetings,
Regarding the supplies to get unstuck question. Yes, loading supplies will 'de-stuck' a vehicle. It will pop up the back end and you have to back out the way you traveled into the soft terrain.
I haven't tried LTVs yet, I would assume they can get over the sand - or do we need to swim for the green coast when landing?
Regards,
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better be careful waffle you start telling people whats going on and then they were start demanding instant results. i think the AH masses should be treated like mushrooms
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Originally posted by Waffle
it's always "blame the new guy".... I left a nice adjective out of that quote as well......
:)
btw tank town spawns haven't changed.... but we are looking at few issues in/around tank town.
I have a solution we need the Enola Gay. :D
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Now neutered? I just signed in to D/L the new version & take the sherman for a test spin but couldn't in the orange LW arena so I didn't do much of anything....was the Tiger weakened for some reason? I hope not, it'd be silly to add the Firefly only to slit the Tigers throat, it is still the king of the battlefield after all. I was looking forward to some good GV battles; I even brought my own cheese to go with the vintage whine.
All i know is that i pop Tigers left and right with the Firefly from every angle. ive also been hit on my front side by Tigers and not gotten damaged.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
All i know is that i pop Tigers left and right with the Firefly from every angle. ive also been hit on my front side by Tigers and not gotten damaged.
Hmm, thanks for the reply. Popping them from every angle & not suffering damage when they hit you is definitely screwy sounding. Oh well they'll get it sorted if there is a bug.....note I said if. I've had a lot of impossible things happen over the years in this game so maybe it's just the normal shakedown cruise problems that are bound to happen when changes are made.
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Originally posted by Waffle
btw tank town spawns haven't changed.... but we are looking at few issues in/around tank town.
Thanks Waffle.
What they need to do is ditch the AvA arena and turn it into a vehicle arena. With V Bases only, and plenty of terrain to fight over.
(Ducking now)
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Originally posted by Fencer51
(Ducking now)
Dang, missed . . . :furious
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Originally posted by VWE
When I get out of the Army, so help me God, if anyone uses that damn term to me in person I will drag them by their short hairs into a dark alley and remove their tongue with a spoon while informing in a very soft voice "it would behoove you to never use that word ever again".
Very over used term by halfwits who wouldn't begin to be able to define it, they just say it cause they think it makes them sound intelligent but instead points out their ignorance of the English dialect.
Steps off soap box... carry on all.
behoove.
behoove.
bedoublehoove.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
All i know is that i pop Tigers left and right with the Firefly from every angle. ive also been hit on my front side by Tigers and not gotten damaged.
Dont get me wrong... ive been killed in the FF by Tigers too, its just that its just as easy to get kills as it is to get killed.
The Tiger now offers nothing that the Firefly cant do for free, and when it comes to speed and turret turning the Firefly is superior.
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It would behoove you to stay in the Army.:p
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im sure HTC dont hate no tanks wat pay tehm $16 a month
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yup.......drove a tiger to TT last night from the VH.Hit an m16 2 times right on the money before it went boom.Hit a sherman countless times and i went to tower.Might as well get out the embalming fluid and start pickling the tiger cause it is useless now.
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Americans (such as myself) have a tough time with proper english. I love it when I pi$$ someone off it only means im doing my job. I hated that word in the crotch..(u.s.m.c.) for those that dont know where the crotch is, so I use it 30 yrs later, i been out long enough it no longer bothers me, so it would behoove you, not to get too froggy, or ill shoot you down again.
as you were.:cool:
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Originally posted by allmetal
yup.......drove a tiger to TT last night from the VH.Hit an m16 2 times right on the money before it went boom.Hit a sherman countless times and i went to tower.Might as well get out the embalming fluid and start pickling the tiger cause it is useless now.
There's always been a problem with the M-3's & M-16's being able to absorb hit after hit from any tank. I think it was explained once that it was modeled that way to emulate AP rounds zipping through the skin of the vehicle & doing nothing but punching a hole in it; but I found HE did the same thing & it didn't matter where your round impacted either....cab or rear.
As far as the FF armor & the German 88; it was a first shot kill scenario if the Sherman found itself in a Tigers sights from any angle & at just about any range whereas the 17-pounder of the FF had trouble at range with the Tigers front glacis. It was after all basically a 76mm & the Sherman was being fitted with a new turret (can't remember what it was called) that employed a 76mm high velocity gun (HV ammunition to be more precise). The comments I had read said that the crews of the Shermans were screaming bloody murder for more of the 76mm HV ammo because it was a big improvement & it was in very short supply.
There is no doubt the 17-pndr could kill a Tiger, but it was not the end all weapon to match the German 88 by any stretch...I could be mistaken (probably am) but I think the up-gunned late model T-34's had a better shot/kill ratio. Maybe if HTC looked into adding in a perked High Velocity ammo package for the T-34 & FF, thus making them low range perk vehicles, it might enable them to leave the Tiger as strong as it ever was & have a counter for it in the game that doesn't require another Tiger to be rolled out.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
It was after all basically a 76mm & the Sherman was being fitted with a new turret (can't remember what it was called) that employed a 76mm high velocity gun (HV ammunition to be more precise).
ehh... the FireFly?
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Originally posted by Larry
HTC hate tanks?
Yes, that just why they gave you a nice shiney new Sherman to play with! :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by macleod01
Yes, that just why they gave you a nice shiney new Sherman to play with! :rolleyes:
Yep a new serman and about ten new bugs that came with it.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Now neutered? I just signed in to D/L the new version & take the sherman for a test spin but couldn't in the orange LW arena so I didn't do much of anything....was the Tiger weakened for some reason? I hope not, it'd be silly to add the Firefly only to slit the Tigers throat, it is still the king of the battlefield after all. I was looking forward to some good GV battles; I even brought my own cheese to go with the vintage whine.
Either the Tiger was weekened or the shells from all the other tanks were beefed up! I spend a lot of time in Tigers and I know it isn't taking the hits it used to. I was killed by a panzer with 1 shot from over 1600 the other day and I had no previous hits on me it was fresh out of the hanger.
Also I have noticed trying to range anything is completely different. I can't put my finger on it but it seems to have something to do with the sights maybe? Or maybe the terrain? Like I said, I can't quite put my finger on it.
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
Also I have noticed trying to range anything is completely different. I can't put my finger on it but it seems to have something to do with the sights maybe? Or maybe the terrain? Like I said, I can't quite put my finger on it.
Less detail on the ground has made it harder for me to range tanks to.
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What's in the new patch? (http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/releases/210patch0.html)
Changed the internal configuration of various tank damage models.
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Originally posted by Yknurd
What's in the new patch? (http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/releases/210patch0.html)
Already read that. But it's not specific as to which tanks and how much was taken away/given to each model. So posting that link answers nothing other than they made some changes to the tanks which we are already painfully aware of.
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What's in the new patch? (http://www.hitechcreations.com/news/releases/210patch0.html)
Added the British Sherman VC Firefly tank.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
ehh... the FireFly?
yup thats the one he was looking for. the Sherman FireFly has a 17in turret on it witch in this case is 76MM HVap rounds this also means if close range battle went on with a sherman and a tiger a sherman can kill the tiger in one shot yes thats realistic. T-34s got their most popular rounds now the HVAP rounds and they can kill a tiger in two to three hits. the tigers steal did not get weaker the other tanks just got better ammo now so tigers can no longer over rule one country when eny is at 5
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Personally I would love to see Tanks taken out of the game...
this is Aces High, after all, not Tank Wars.
...sorry had to say it. It's been depressing to watch the knits have numbers advantage for the majority of the weekend and still get pummeled so badly (we have alot of hardy GV-lovers).
I have no problem with ppl playing they way they play, I just think a fighter sim is not a great place for tanks....although TT is fun every now and then for a sortie or two.
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Originally posted by Casper1
I have no problem with ppl playing they way they play, I just think a fighter sim is not a great place for tanks....
Its not a fighter sim Its a WWII combat sim.
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
yup thats the one he was looking for. the Sherman FireFly has a 17in turret on it witch in this case is 76MM HVap rounds this also means if close range battle went on with a sherman and a tiger a sherman can kill the tiger in one shot yes thats realistic. T-34s got their most popular rounds now the HVAP rounds and they can kill a tiger in two to three hits. the tigers steal did not get weaker the other tanks just got better ammo now so tigers can no longer over rule one country when eny is at 5
The Firefly has a 3 inch gun, you're thinking 17 pounder. And yes, in close range combat the Firefly could penetrate the Tiger; close range being anything out to 1,000 yards.
But basically yes that's what I was referring to, the high velocity armor piercing ammunition was the Tiger's worst enemy until the 90MM gun came out on the Pershing. It was capable of knocking out King Tigers. But the Firefly had no more armor than any other M-4; it was the Jumbo that had added armor & even that extra four or five inches was like butter to the German 88.
Edit: I should make a note that I didn't know how many inches the 17 pounder was - I was going by what the in game identification is but the 17 pounder used by the Firefly was 76MM give or take which translates to 2.9921 inches. A 17inch gun would put the Firefly past the Iowa class lol
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
yup thats the one he was looking for. the Sherman FireFly has a 17in turret on it
So... uhm.... where do they fit all the 2500lb+ projectiles? :D
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Originally posted by Larry
Its not a fighter sim Its a WWII combat sim.
ehhh ok...maybe....oh well its all good as long as they dont change the name of the game to BattleTanks Low :)
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Originally posted by Casper1
ehhh ok...maybe....oh well its all good as long as they dont change the name of the game to BattleTanks Low :)
I seriously doubt a name change is in the works ;) All I can say is if you don't like GV's in the game, play something else. :aok