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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Flayed1 on April 16, 2007, 08:54:15 AM
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After poping up in this tank and that tank over and over with the same result time after time-----PING dead PING dead PING dead. I thought to myself what the hell I may as well be uping in a JEEP!! It would last as long as any of the tanks do .
So I jump up in a Jeep and zoom off into town dodging in and out of the buildings, slipping through spots no tank could ever go. Then as I was cruising along on the far side of town I spot an M-8 snuggled in by some buildings. I quickly hit the breaks, jump into the gun and ping away at his left front tire and in a few seconds he is leaning to the left front. I continue pinging away and strip all 3 tires off that side then figure I've stayed long enough. Turns out just to long because just as I was running behind a building he gets a shot off and I die , but he died at the same time possibly from an NME tank but I get the kill so already I'm doing as well in a jeep as I would have in a tank...
I reup and cruise into town again and find a Sherman hiding behind a hedge row. I sliped through the little slot in the hedge right behind the tank and shift into reverse quick befor I jump into the gun and start shooting up his tread. I didn't manage to track him befor his turret was almost on me so I jump back into the drivers seat and step on it flying back out of the hole in the hedge the way I had come with a tank round explodeing in the spot where I had been "WHEW that was close" I crank the wheel hard left and almost flip but manage to keep controll of my little anti tank vehicle. I cram it into 1st and I'm off as another round go's off behind me.
I continue ziping in and out of the buildings when I spot another M-8 through a burned out building so I back up just a little so I have a clear view through a hole and then POP POP 2 of he right side tires deflate. :D
Off I run when I get a kill message for the M-8, it was the same guy as the last one.. Then a minuite later I get another kill message, probabbly on that first sheman...
I made a right into an alley and as I start moving through I look to the left and can just see the front part of another Shermans tread sticking out from behind a building. I back up just a bit and start pinging away at it then after a bit his tank leans to the right "TRACKED!!" I think to myself laughing just a little. I run off leaving him to his fate and sure enough in another minuit a You have killed message pops up.. Not bad for one load of ammo.
I figure at this point I shouldn't push my luck and decide to get out of town to land the 3 kills in my jeep but just as I get out of town a spit zooms down and pop, there go's my wonderfull lil jeep :cry Stupid spit pilot having to rely on killing innocent lil jeeps in stead of having guts enough to find a real fight lol :p
At any rate like I first thought the Jeep will last as long in Tank Town as any tank will at this point including the Tiger that I had shot out from under me in one hit as I spawned and the shot came from the NME spawn. Something is wrong with this picture what good is it to drive an armored tank if it does little to no good to have the armor?
Also, whats up with the smoke??? You can pop it out in front of you and it forms a solid wall so nobody can see you through it but on your side you can see through fine??:confused: I don't know about you guys but every time I've been on one side or other of a large smoke plume I couldn't see very well from either side......
Oh well hope you like the story :)
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Love the story.
Im one of those that hide behind a cloud of smoke and plinks others that does not have one to hide behind. very effective and means there is no need to start engine and run for cover :D
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Sounds awesome Flayed!
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I think it was a Korean era thing, but it would be cool to have the Jeep with either the 75mm, 90mm or 106mm recoilless rifle on it. :)
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'Jeeping' is very fun in TT
gives me an indiana jones feeling, lol:lol
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Nice story! A+ The jeep is very effective at TT. I recall once being shot numerous times by a guy so far out and on the side of the mountain, I wasn't quite sure how he did it. So that lit a charge under my arse. Drove from V23 all the way up to the top of the hill and waited for him to fire so I'd know exact location. Ah! Found him and I sat there for two or three min watching him pick off tank after tank. I put my trusty jeep into 1st got a little roll down hill, and slammed it into neutral. As I am rolling down this hill toward the back of his tank, I recall thinking that it was cheap and low down to kill a guy in a tiger with a jeep. Then I remember 3 panzers that I didn't even get to start. I coasted my jeep right inside this guys tank, manned the 50 commenced firing. Boom. He's dead. Drove my jeep back to base with a happy face. Sorry Mr. Spawn Camping Tiger. Nah not really. Bless my Jeep!:rofl
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Is it still possible to shoot up and kill a tank from inside the hull from a jeep? Or did the new version fix that?
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<---crappy GV'er
Never was able to get that kill the driver from inside the tank thing to work for me. Is there a spot you shoot at inside? I know it worked a few months ago, because the night I decided to try GV'ing in tank town Somebody did it to me repeatedly from his T34 -- he'd pull inside my tank, and ping away with the hull gun.**
When I did it, I tried hitting the driver's seat area, but got nothing....
**Have to say, I had loads of adrenaline charged fun, but once the tremoring stopped I realized I had DIED 55 TIMES IN UNDER AN HOUR!!
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Yup it still works, theres nothing they can currently do to stop you driving inside another vehicle.
Look for the threads that explain why.
Short version -
With collisions enabled for vehicles -
a) They could get locked together
b) They could fly apart at warp speed
c) Various other unpleasant scenarios.
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It is still avalible, and I usually don't practice it, but when a guy is shoots from over 2k away and kills you before you start the engine. Jeep time presents its self.
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Memories of Rat Patrol :rofl
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hehe...great read. I could almost hear the giggling as you raced around getting kills while reading that.
I must try this jeep thing. I never usually bother with GVs.
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we need the M20 75mm recoilless rifle loadout for the jeep.
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THAT!!!! Was TOO Funny!!:rofl :rofl :rofl
4XTCH
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Pulling inside of an enemy GV & plugging away with your MG is exploiting a bug & it's breaking one of the few rules there are in this game. Explaining how to do it is also against the rules or I'd tell you what to look for.
Or am I confusing the rules of another game I play? Either way I think if a guy plugs you at over 2K away, you can hardly call that camping so going after him & exploiting a bug to kill him is sort of...well, lame. No offense.
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I've killed a few tanks in a Jeep. Once just to try it and a couple times to remove a spawn camper. It's exploiting a bug, but getting killed 8-10 times in a row before you can even get your engine on is just as silly.
The new TT isn't as fun so far for me. I enjoyed going from woodlot to woodlot trying to flank the enemy using the terrain to stay alive. I also play on a laptop that is just barely capable of supporting AH & the new terrain has dropped me to 7-10 FPS and it goes to 1-3 if it's busy or a B-17 flys over, so it's not a part of the game for me anymore until I build a new PC.
My simple idea to help the instant spawn deaths is to have tanks spawn with the engine on so you can at least take off and be a harder target to hit. TT is gamey anyway and is for GV practice and quick results play so losing the realism of having to start your engine wouldn't take anything away for me.
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LOL
Great story Flayed. :)
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~~ Sketch comes cruising in his Jeep with the Indiana Jones Theme playing ~~
Yeah Flayed, that is a good one... I shot Mt. Dew all over my monitor when I was reading it. :rofl Buggin people in Jeeps is one of the best things to do and it makes you smile and laugh about it... But it is bad you can take out almost all the tires on an M8 with a 50cal, but slaughter it with 37mm from an flak and they keep on rolling. :rolleyes:
For Laurie: (http://a4.vox.com/6a00b8ea0678fcdece00bf76c6c16c954a-pi)
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Pulling inside of an enemy GV & plugging away with your MG is exploiting a bug & it's breaking one of the few rules there are in this game. Explaining how to do it is also against the rules or I'd tell you what to look for.
Or am I confusing the rules of another game I play? Either way I think if a guy plugs you at over 2K away, you can hardly call that camping so going after him & exploiting a bug to kill him is sort of...well, lame. No offense.
No offense taken, i wish I still had the video of it. It went kinda like this
Spawn-press e-dead "you have been killed by "Player X" in a tiger
spawn-press e-dead "you have been killed by "Player X" in a tiger
spawn-press e-dead "you have been killed by "Player X" in a tiger
Cuss to myself
Check video replay. Ahhh Behind and to the left
Jump in Jeep
drive...drive...drive
Roll.
50 cal
You have killed "Player X"
chuckle back to base.
Quit game
Lame it may be, but so is killing from behind before engine even starts;)
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Had a similar problem. Kept upping a tank only to be killed every time by a spawn camping dweeb. Pointless. So I up a jeep and next thing I'm driving round town in a tension filled cruise trying to off other jeeps and M8's. Brilliiant fun!
The jeep is easily the most fun in those situations. Never managed to kill a tank. But enjoyed freaking them out and making them move out of cover by machine gunning them to distraction. Often got assists in those situations.
It seems to me that a jeep mission would be hilarious fun, driving around TT or some airfield shooting up the place and emulating those SAS raids in the desert.
The M8 is almost a much fun but a bigger target for Tiger community.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Pulling inside of an enemy GV & plugging away with your MG is exploiting a bug & it's breaking one of the few rules there are in this game. Explaining how to do it is also against the rules or I'd tell you what to look for.
Or am I confusing the rules of another game I play? Either way I think if a guy plugs you at over 2K away, you can hardly call that camping so going after him & exploiting a bug to kill him is sort of...well, lame. No offense.
If a guy sits in one place for an hour (camping), shooting people at the point and moment when they enter play (spawn), it sounds like spawncamping to me.
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Well it may sound like spawn camping to you but it might not by other peoples standards, as the spawn size increased because of the complaints that it was like shooting fish in a barrel, the larger more random spawns overlap each other now to the point where you can spawn in & start killing other people at their spawn when they up without even moving.
I remember when the spawn camping was not incidental but intentional. If you're 2K out then the guy is a good shot & more than likely on his own spawn or even further away. Believe me I've been camped before; who here that has gotten into a GV more than once or twice hasn't?
The problem is, when you spawn in & get popped, it's usually by someone who is still sitting on their own spawn too; especially in TT. There are a couple maps that the spawns overlap to the point that you spawn on top of each other, or even a couple hundred meters behind each other.
Like I said, I've been camped before & yes I got pissed off dying over & over again but it was my choice to keep going back. I could have upped buffs or JABO & killed them legitimately without breaking the rules & exploiting a glitch & so can you. If HTC devises a way to eliminate camping I'm sure not going to complain about the loss of the camping opportunity. But I'm also not going to exploit a glitch either.
When there were holes in the terrain guys were hiding in those & popping people, that was more irritating than the campers. How about warping planes? If a guy decides he's tired of losing to you & can warp at will (I know they say you can't do that, others think you can - pretend for this instance you can)....is it ok for him to do it? No. Not in my opinion it's not.
Like I said no offense to anyone, it's just my opinion that it's a no brainer.;)
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Pulling inside of an enemy GV & plugging away with your MG is exploiting a bug & it's breaking one of the few rules there are in this game. Explaining how to do it is also against the rules or I'd tell you what to look for.
Or am I confusing the rules of another game I play? Either way I think if a guy plugs you at over 2K away, you can hardly call that camping so going after him & exploiting a bug to kill him is sort of...well, lame. No offense.
Well...think of it as the jeep pulling up, the driver hopping out and pitching a gernade into the tank through the hatch or vision slit :)
Hey, you let a jeep get that close, didn't ya?
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With all this talk of exploiting the (drive into the tank and kill him) thing I am proud to say I have never used nore ever will use that tactic.. I simply use the (I put the most ammo into the NME ther for I get the kill tactic)... Simply disable the GV in TT and usually in the disableing of it you will have put enough ammo/done enough damage to it to get the kill when he does die. :) Though I do feel a lil bad for the guy that sees an easy kill and get's an assist lol.
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Or he's disabled and just ditches, which is most likely what happened.
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Originally posted by Shaky
Well...think of it as the jeep pulling up, the driver hopping out and pitching a gernade into the tank through the hatch or vision slit :)
Hey, you let a jeep get that close, didn't ya?
:lol good one.
I've never been killed by a jeep in that manner. I've had them try but they usually eat pintle; they don't see your turret moving & they think they have you & "pa-ding-ding-ding" :cool:
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Good thread . Im just not sure if it should be in Help / Training or not :)
Rat Patrol in North Africa ya right on LOL
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Like I said, I've been camped before & yes I got pissed off dying over & over again but it was my choice to keep going back. I could have upped buffs or JABO & killed them legitimately without breaking the rules & exploiting a glitch & so can you.
Well after losing 6 kills to an M8 on the way back to base, and then re uping and getting basted by a guy so far out he must of been in a new time zone, I let him know I knew where he was. How you may ask...JU-87 and 1800kg bomb. I think that was legit.
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Ya know, you can man the jeep's gun and still steer with your rudder inputs. Lets you shoot on the move. I just haven't figured out the slowing down/stopping part yet.
Just a thought.
wrngway
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I don't belive there is any way to slow down or stop from the gunners position... I was thinking of getting one of my squad to gun for me so I would only have to worry about staying out of the way of the tank guns :) Though I would miss the part where I get to shoot out the treads.
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Sharp steering in top gear might stop you.
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Originally posted by 5PointOh
Well after losing 6 kills to an M8 on the way back to base, and then re uping and getting basted by a guy so far out he must of been in a new time zone, I let him know I knew where he was. How you may ask...JU-87 and 1800kg bomb. I think that was legit.
You bet that's legit. And it gave you that tingle from the adrenaline to best him didn't it? I love it.:D
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Originally posted by Brenjen
You bet that's legit. And it gave you that tingle from the adrenaline to best him didn't it? I love it.:D
Yea, it gave me a tingle. Nothing like saying "hello governor" with the 1800 kg of munitions. :rofl
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Well it may sound like spawn camping to you but it might not by other peoples standards, as the spawn size increased because of the complaints that it was like shooting fish in a barrel, the larger more random spawns overlap each other now to the point where you can spawn in & start killing other people at their spawn when they up without even moving.
I remember when the spawn camping was not incidental but intentional. If you're 2K out then the guy is a good shot & more than likely on his own spawn or even further away. Believe me I've been camped before; who here that has gotten into a GV more than once or twice hasn't?
The problem is, when you spawn in & get popped, it's usually by someone who is still sitting on their own spawn too; especially in TT. There are a couple maps that the spawns overlap to the point that you spawn on top of each other, or even a couple hundred meters behind each other.
Like I said, I've been camped before & yes I got pissed off dying over & over again but it was my choice to keep going back. I could have upped buffs or JABO & killed them legitimately without breaking the rules & exploiting a glitch & so can you. If HTC devises a way to eliminate camping I'm sure not going to complain about the loss of the camping opportunity. But I'm also not going to exploit a glitch either.
When there were holes in the terrain guys were hiding in those & popping people, that was more irritating than the campers. How about warping planes? If a guy decides he's tired of losing to you & can warp at will (I know they say you can't do that, others think you can - pretend for this instance you can)....is it ok for him to do it? No. Not in my opinion it's not.
Like I said no offense to anyone, it's just my opinion that it's a no brainer.;)
Having camped many a spawn myself, I feel qualified to say "YES",this is spawn camping, any gv'er that says they have not camped a spawn is a big fibber,lol.
And you can kill any tiger or panzer from behind with an MG from a jeep, REALLY gets em mad too! lol
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LOL if you see a tank moving on a field that is deackd and it is knits.... dont worry about the town he is heading for the base XD rofl lol gota love the knits man field is capped its like hey where is everyone umm vulching 20 minutes ltaer OMFG ACK
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Originally posted by devild0g
LOL if you see a tank moving on a field that is deackd and it is knits.... dont worry about the town he is heading for the base XD rofl lol gota love the knits man field is capped its like hey where is everyone umm vulching 20 minutes ltaer OMFG ACK
:huh UM, What?
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Originally posted by yanksfan
Having camped many a spawn myself, I feel qualified to say "YES",this is spawn camping, any gv'er that says they have not camped a spawn is a big fibber,lol.
And you can kill any tiger or panzer from behind with an MG from a jeep, REALLY gets em mad too! lol
Well, I disagree. With the over lapped spawn points & the huge random spawn; spawn camping is nothing like it used to be. I've killed guys on their spawn from my own spawn on several maps since HTC redesigned the spawn in area, that's not spawn camping, at least not in the traditional sense. You used to have to seek out the enemy spawn & look for a spot....know just spawn in & wait; an enemy GV will spawn up in gun range soon enough.
If you crawl into a Tiger & kill it with a jeeps MG (yes I know it can be done) you're cheating. It's a known glitch & exploiting a glitch is against the rules.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Well, I disagree. With the over lapped spawn points & the huge random spawn; spawn camping is nothing like it used to be. I've killed guys on their spawn from my own spawn on several maps since HTC redesigned the spawn in area, that's not spawn camping, at least not in the traditional sense. You used to have to seek out the enemy spawn & look for a spot....know just spawn in & wait; an enemy GV will spawn up in gun range soon enough.
If you crawl into a Tiger & kill it with a jeeps MG (yes I know it can be done) you're cheating. It's a known glitch & exploiting a glitch is against the rules.
I didn't say crawl inside, I said behind. And cheating is only if you are doing something outside the rules to gain an unfair advantage that other players do not have, obviously anyone can do what you are suggesting with a jeep, so thats not cheating.
Anyway so many people throw the cheater thing around so much its lost its meaning, mostly when someone crys cheat, what their really saying is "i'm a bad sport".
Oh, and i do agree with you, tt is tt, spawning out there does put you in a camp position, it's a free for all. But there is no bad way or "cheating" way to kill a tank with a jeep, i mean come on, its a jeep.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
If you crawl into a Tiger & kill it with a jeeps MG (yes I know it can be done) you're cheating. It's a known glitch & exploiting a glitch is against the rules.
It's not a glitch, it's a limitation of playing over the net.
If they enable vehicle collisions it causes some very nasty side effects because GVs are travelling at much slower speeds than aircraft.
How would you feel if your Tiger and a Jeep got locked together, or flew apart at warp 9 when they touched?
The current method isn't great, but about all that is possible under the playing conditions.
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No it's a glitch. It's not just the collision model. If you have done it then you know what I'm talking about, you can't just shoot anywhere. The lack of a collision model is the reason you can crawl inside them, but not the way your killing them. If that was the case running through them would do it.
But there is no bad way or "cheating" way to kill a tank with a jeep, i mean come on, its a jeep.
You are mistaken or just inexperienced, there is a "cheating" way to kill a tank in a jeep. That's the ONLY way your killing a tank in a jeep. You may score the kill when another person bombs it or hits it with an AP round, but that's not the same thing as blowing one up with your pintle gun. Your just getting credit for the kill because of how many rounds you dumped into the guy. People have always done that at spawns with M-16's lol, kill stealing is no newer than stat padding.
Sorry boys but I completely disagree with exploiting bugs to win. It's no different than the guys that used to drive into the supply truck shed & fire out of it or the guys that used to pull into the terrain glitch by the shore batts. If you want to park on a spawn & camp me that's fine, your taking your chances & I also agree that the tanker should be more aware than to let a jeep run through him but I just can't concede that using the jeep as an exploit is a fair or right thing to do.
I'm out, have fun, maybe they can address this issue officially some day.
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Originally posted by Brenjen
You are mistaken or just inexperienced, there is a "cheating" way to kill a tank in a jeep. That's the ONLY way your killing a tank in a jeep. You may score the kill when another person bombs it or hits it with an AP round, but that's not the same thing as blowing one up with your pintle gun. Your just getting credit for the kill because of how many rounds you dumped into the guy. People have always done that at spawns with M-16's lol, kill stealing is no newer than stat padding.
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Dude, Yes you can kill a tank with a jeep, if you pump rounds into the rear end you will kill it, I will gladly show you, it's one of my fav ways to kill a tiger.
you can do it with any 50 cal. m16's work best cause there are 4 firing at once, but a jeep, without driveing inside can do it, I have done it, you should try it , it's a blast.lol
but really, go to 8 player room and try it, it's alot harder to do then with a tank, so if anything killing a tank with a tank would be cheating,lol, if that makes any sence.
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The reason it kills them is because the Jeep gun kills the driver, the equivalent to killing the pilot in an aircraft.
So hows that a glitch?
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Good story, thanks.
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Yanksfan can you send me a film of that?
you can kill a tank with a jeep, if you pump rounds into the rear end you will kill it, I will gladly show you, it's one of my fav ways to kill a tiger.
you can do it with any 50 cal. m16's work best cause there are 4 firing at once, but a jeep, without driveing inside can do it
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HMMMMMM!, Just tryed it in offline game, Don't know if offline is different, or when they changed tank armor hardness in latest update it's no longer possible, but, i could not kill a tiger with a jeep or for that matter an m16. so........APON FURTHER REVEIW..........I stand corrected.......i will change my statement of killing a tiger or panzer with 50 cals to "at one time" at least until I get a chance to try it online. LOL