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Title: Nazi's?
Post by: REP0MAN on April 16, 2007, 03:23:49 PM
I thought we've gone over this with the Nazi's once before, back in the 40's I think....

Tulsa, Ok - Tulsa police officers could be busy dealing with confrontational crowds today as an Oklahoma Nazi group plans a protest in front of the Victory Christian Center.

The group is planning to protest the Victory Christian Center's 'Night to Honor Israel'. It's a tribute to the nation of Israel and the Jewish people of the World.

The purpose of the church presentation is to promote an understanding between Christians and Jews and to emphasize the things in common as believers in God.

According to the coordinator of the group that is protesting, the rally will take place Monday evening on the sidewalk in front of Victory Christian Center.

Participants will be wearing Swastika armbands, carrying signs and distributing literature.

Tulsa police plan to be on hand to make sure nothing confrontational erupts.

Source (http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0407/414667.html)

I am an Okie transplanted in AZ. I never knew this group existed. And what is it that they are protesting? The celebration of Jews? What is their alternative?

Kids, I tell ya, Kids.....:rolleyes:
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 16, 2007, 03:34:33 PM
This will go nowhere in a hurry.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Bodhi on April 16, 2007, 03:36:42 PM
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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


The first Ammendment is something that protects this group's right to protest and be heard.  

While I do not agree with their philosophy nor do I think they are anything more than idiots, I do respect their right to free speech.  If we do not like their ideas, speech, and ideology, we can always choose to ignore them.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Ack-Ack on April 16, 2007, 03:45:47 PM
I applaude the Christian's group for reaching out to other religious communities to promote understanding of other people's beliefs.


ack-ack
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Hap on April 16, 2007, 04:03:38 PM
I'd like to see them pelted with rotten fruit and shamed out of existence.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: DiabloTX on April 16, 2007, 06:23:17 PM
Well, at least they ain't Illinois nazi's.  I HATE Illinois nazi's.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on April 16, 2007, 06:32:27 PM
Bodhi does have a point.

If the demonstration, march, protest, whatever it is, Is done in a legal manner, The authorities cannot intervene(though they can, and most assuredly will, mantain a presence.)
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Maverick on April 16, 2007, 06:33:36 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
The first Ammendment is something that protects this group's right to protest and be heard.  

While I do not agree with their philosophy nor do I think they are anything more than idiots, I do respect their right to free speech.  If we do not like their ideas, speech, and ideology, we can always choose to ignore them.


+1. It's protected as long as they keep it as speech and do nothing overt. They may be slimeballs and a waste of protoplasm but they have a right to speak in public.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Pooh21 on April 16, 2007, 07:11:27 PM
lol what will those wacky re-enactors do next?:rofl
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: REP0MAN on April 16, 2007, 10:18:32 PM
Its not that I don't agree with their rights to protest, not at all.

I'm just curious what they are protesting?
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 16, 2007, 10:27:38 PM
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
I applaude the Christian's group for reaching out to other religious communities to promote understanding of other people's beliefs.


ack-ack


I actually think that is something wrong with modern day christianity.  When did religion become such a ***** organization that they decided to concede their beliefs to placate someone else?
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: REP0MAN on April 16, 2007, 10:43:27 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I actually think that is something wrong with modern day christianity.  When did religion become such a ***** organization that they decided to concede their beliefs to placate someone else?


You should read the Old Testament of the Bible. You may rephrase that.

Oh and this from above after the Bible, "The purpose of the church presentation is to promote an understanding between Christians and Jews and to emphasize the things in common as believers in God"

:)
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: lasersailor184 on April 16, 2007, 10:45:26 PM
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Originally posted by REP0MAN
You should read the Old Testament of the Bible. You may rephrase that.

Oh and this from above after the Bible, "The purpose of the church presentation is to promote an understanding between Christians and Jews and to emphasize the things in common as believers in God"

:)


I've never read either, don't intend to.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: REP0MAN on April 16, 2007, 10:52:01 PM
So, uninformed statements. Gotcha.

Carry on

:)
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: AWMac on April 17, 2007, 04:55:03 AM
Been living 15 minutes away from Tulsa for 12 Years now... Never heard of these buttmonkeys.

Mac
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: FBplmmr on April 17, 2007, 05:31:39 AM
What were Christians doing in the Old Testament?
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Keeler101 on April 17, 2007, 06:00:23 AM
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
What were Christians doing in the Old Testament?


Waiting till the New one came out ?
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: AWMac on April 17, 2007, 06:09:08 AM
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Originally posted by FBplmmr
What were Christians doing in the Old Testament?


*Horseshack voice on, hand up waving it frantically*

"Ohhhhh Ohhhhhhhh I know this one Mister Kotter.... They were eating dates and honey Mister Kotter......"

*hand down, big grin. Horseshack voice off*

:D

Mac
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Pooh21 on April 17, 2007, 06:53:01 AM
Oh noes! Someone leiks the uniforms (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070416/people_nm/britain_ferry_nazis_dc)
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: AquaShrimp on April 17, 2007, 06:59:14 AM
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Originally posted by Pooh21
lol what will those wacky re-enactors do next?:rofl


Yeah I think they are taking it too far.  I mean, I met some of them at a World War II reenactment, and they seemed like real stand-up guys.  But why are they going and doing this?  They need to learn to seperate the battle reenactment from peoples actual personal lives.  They are getting too personal now.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Gh0stFT on April 17, 2007, 02:28:56 PM
imagine something similar would happen in germany, the whole
world would be upset...(unbelievable!*@'!!!)
But you protect this kind of monsters?
free speech? what do you need to hear from them, didnt we learned
something from the history?
oh they have something new to say?!
I'm sure they talking about a wonderfull peacefull future for everyone...

BS
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: moot on April 17, 2007, 03:11:39 PM
They ought to be as free as anyone else on this rock to think and speak as they wish, and reap what they sow.
That's what Voltaire would agree to, too.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: eskimo2 on April 17, 2007, 06:21:11 PM
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
imagine something similar would happen in germany, the whole
world would be upset...(unbelievable!*@'!!!)
But you protect this kind of monsters?
free speech? what do you need to hear from them, didnt we learned
something from the history?
oh they have something new to say?!
I'm sure they talking about a wonderfull peacefull future for everyone...

BS


Hitler rose to power by not allowing people to talk or share ideas.  I fear a government that tells me what I can and cannot hear or read.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Brenjen on April 17, 2007, 07:11:59 PM
Bah, the Nazis of today are nothing more than gang bangers like the crips or MS13.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: Brenjen on April 17, 2007, 07:20:50 PM
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Originally posted by Gh0stFT
imagine something similar would happen in germany, the whole
world would be upset...(unbelievable!*@'!!!)
But you protect this kind of monsters?
free speech? what do you need to hear from them, didnt we learned
something from the history?
oh they have something new to say?!
I'm sure they talking about a wonderfull peacefull future for everyone...

BS


 And to you as a German I say; what Hitler did he could have done anywhere. He delivered prosperity to a people hungry for change. It wasn't until he had concrete control that things went bad for Germany. When he forced the German military to swear allegiance to him personally it was all over because the average German soldier was an honorable man & bound by his oath to perform his duty.

 The top tier Nazi's & the SS were not your average German soldier. They were fanatics. Too bad the military wasn't able to stage a coup & kill Hitler before the U.S. & the Soviet Union became involved in the war in Europe. I think admiral Dönitz would have been a fine leader. France would have eventually been returned to the French as well as the other occupied territories & the U.S. & Great Britian would have ended up as German allies by today anyway. I think it would have saved a lot of lives & the balance of power in the world would be much different than it is today.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: VooWho on April 17, 2007, 07:53:05 PM
I live in Tulsa and from what I saw on the news nothing bad really happend at the protest. The only big story here was Tulsa police surrounded an apartment building with a murderer hiding inside and then 200 people started throwing stones and other objects at the police that were trying to protect the civilians. I swear more people these days hate cops for protecting us.

Monday night no body cared about the nazi protest we were all to busy having fun listening to Chevelle play live in the Cain's Ballroom which I went to. (IT WAS AWSOME!)

Tulsa out.
Title: Nazi's?
Post by: AWMac on April 17, 2007, 10:48:57 PM
It's a better day drinkin long necks with Garth...Has a good spread in Owasso.

:aok

Mac

Phil and Brent 97.5 yer KMOD.... Roy D. Mercer.

:p