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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Husky01 on April 17, 2007, 04:46:08 PM
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NO cover.
Hangers dropped every 15 minutes.
Constant egging.
Poor FPS for half the arena.
During the evening its hard to see due to the darkness.
No trees.
Just a golf coarse with teams of firing lines and a town in the middle.
Ok i feel better:D Just had to relive some frustration.
But really TT is now a joke not even worth going to anymore.
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lol i remember threads like this about 4 years ago.
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i agree 100%...TT is a joke :(
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Tank Town Rocks :)
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TT was always a joke. The only thing it's ever offered is a chance to bomb Bipolar and have him whine via PM to me. :lol
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I like it as much now as ever. TT hasn't really changed from what I can see, a few less copse's of trees but that's about it.
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i like it more now, it seems to me that there's much more to hide behind. TT improved this patch IMHO, atleast i'm finding it more fun.
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it seems to me that there's much more to hide behind.
Biggles:huh Lad are you wasted? There is nothing to hide behind.
Also did you get my email?
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Its still fun though....IF you can make it out of spawn! :D
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Yeah, could go with out lancs bombing spawns and town every thirty seconds
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Yeah I remember when buff runs over TT was frowned upon by the community at large. Same with dropping eggs on FT hangars. If you drop the VH's at FT when your going for the map win I understand that because the VH's from FT spawn into the surrounding map. But TT is on an Island on mindinao map; why screw with it?:confused:
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Someone in another post suggested moving the spawns back 1.5K or so, which IMO would make TT more interesting & fun. As it is now, 75% of the time I spawn into the middle of nowhere, in full view of the bad guys, and cease to exist approx 2.375 seconds later.
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TT is huge fun.
Nothing like the challenge of "getting off the beach" to wake you up.
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:huh
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Originally posted by Husky01
NO cover.
Hangers dropped every 15 minutes.
Constant egging.
Poor FPS for half the arena.
During the evening its hard to see due to the darkness.
No trees.
Just a golf coarse with teams of firing lines and a town in the middle.
Ok i feel better:D Just had to relive some frustration.
But really TT is now a joke not even worth going to anymore.
No where for you to hide and spawn camp huh?
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well i wish the lag could be gone, but maybe having a further spawn, and maybe more of a country feel, like i see alot of hedge row and roads n small town like areas in the middle of no where, y not have that kind of stuff surounding tank town? and tank town is wayyy to compact, maybe if u spaced out the buildings and put less, and maybe instead of this square of city thats like weird, have it so its more like a real ww2 town like bastonge or .... somthing...?
but more tank stoppers around, those are fun. not an insane amount, but maybe enough just to think were ur planning to drive. have a net work of country like roads w/ hedge rows and sometimes roads w/ have a few hedgehogs to impead you.
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could care less about camping
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Originally posted by Husky01
But really TT is now a joke not even worth going to anymore.
News Flash. TT has always been a joke.
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:lol
Like it wasn't before?
:lol
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Sucks when the tanks shoot back huh?
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Na TT worse then ever with this new patch
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There are times when you will repeatedly spawn in and die before you can even start your engine and move or before you can rotate your turret even to see what is shortly about to kill you.
There isn't enough cover at the spawn points.
There are now times at tank town that have been the most-frustrating experiences I've ever had playing Aces High, enough to make me feel like throwing my joystick at the wall.
I hope it gets more cover at the spawns, like it had before.
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Just a few more hills would be nice .......Ive only played the v23 spawn so far so i dont know for sure...if all the spawns are as sucky.....V23 spawns in the openu have to make it to Townor die quick., Dr7 allready has his fav spot "heheheh" Whats with the concrete brick things any ways? The fenced in area is fun:) "Glitch really though"
I like the trees way better. Sherman is cool but u cant swing the turret and look down the barrel at the same time.
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Im terrible in GVs. I try to up a tank at TT and get whacked from long range one or two shots. I kill em a few kills, then I go get a plane and take out a couple just to keep my spirits up.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
TT was always a joke. The only thing it's ever offered is a chance to bomb Bipolar and have him whine via PM to me. :lol
That alone is enough reason to bomb TT.
ack-ack
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Bring the 88mm FlaK36 to TT!
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TT has always been a joke. But there are ways to fix it....
1st. Remove the spawn points. Have each side spawn at the V-base. No more spawn, shoot and die. We now have the "Classic Movement to Contact Battle"
2nd. Place a Map Room in the Town, the side that owns TT gets spawn in there too. So we have a reason to attack TT and be attacked by the other two sides not owning TT
This way we have larger more open battles, (no more spawn, shoot, die, repeat) Battles that will need "Team work & planning" I hope...
Cavalry
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1. Many who regularly inhabit TT won't want to drive that far. no instant gratification and action. The TT furballers probably wish the fields were closer and at 10K altitude.
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Originally posted by CAV
TT has always been a joke. But there are ways to fix it....
1st. Remove the spawn points. Have each side spawn at the V-base. No more spawn, shoot and die. We now have the "Classic Movement to Contact Battle"
Cavalry
While pulling the spawns back some distance is a good idea, the complete removal will remove the battle too.
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All that has to be done to fix it is move the spawns back and give more cover also putting 3 more additional smaller towns between the spawns would make fighting more fun.
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I think TT just needs some of those thick forrests between the spawns. I think that would stop a good part of the instant spawn deaths b4 you can even start your engine.
I've never been a big fan of TT, but it seems like the only place top find a good GV battle on that map. So when I get tired of flying I'll GV in tank town. That is if Ican start my engine and move b4 I die.
I normally give it 3 tries after that I either up a A20 and start bombing spawn campers or I logg off. Also if I see another team bombing VH's I'll return the favor.
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I've only played the new TT for 2 days but I have to say it's a big improvement over the old TT. The spawn campers seem to be less of a problem than before. I think moving the spawn points back farther would add a nice dimension to the game but won't put an end to the spawn camping. Where there's a spawn there will be a camper. Make the spawn camping position an exposed one will certainly shorten the campers life span, also making the spawning position a covered one will increase the spawners life span. I'm not a fan of the cannon proof cyclone fence but if it surrounded a spawn point is would cut down the effectiveness of the campers.
I'm trying to imagine Patton and rommel asking hq for more cannon proof cyclone fencing.
On the other hand god put bombs on planes to equal things out.
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Originally posted by crockett
I Also if I see another team bombing VH's I'll return the favor.
That's why the Vhs are almost constantly down on some nights. All are just "returning the favor"...
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Originally posted by Husky01
Biggles:huh Lad are you wasted? There is nothing to hide behind.
Also did you get my email?
odd...I can park a sherman under a tree, pop off 3 smoke grenades, and stay there indefinitely :)
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Also, there's nothing like nailing 2 panzers and 2 shermans with 2 1k bombs from your p-51 :)
and then proceeding to rocket the m-16's they up for revenge :)
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TT/FT are the largest waste of a country's resouces that there is.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's excitement.
Yeah, it ties up people who could be helping a team.
Yeah, it's the equivilent of NASCAR's "who want to see the accident"...
Does it hurt a countries efforts.......Yeah.
Does it take a countries teamwork and flush it down the toilet? Yeah.
If you want to win an arena a get perkies....it's a waste.
If you are only here for yourself, not a squad, not a country, then its a haven.
68ROX
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Tonka Town is great!!!
Funny I spawned in an Osty just to shoot the boobs in ftrs down...I shot about 5 guys..never even got shot at..I did nto move once I Spawned..peopel all over battling tanks..I just kept shooting boobs in ftrs tryn to strafe Tanks
Good times
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But not everyone can spawn at least 1 of the 3 country's is constantly being camped so bad they cant start up the engine hell most of them just stop spawning leaving 40 campers sitting there shooting 1 o 2 newbs that continue to up for no reason.
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Funny, most of the bombers Ive seen hit Tank Town are GV drivers who got spawn camped a few zillion times and are back for some revenge ;)
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TT spawns certainly need attention. the 23 spawn is only one im sure of, it sucks bad. As for the bombing.....it wont end. Those who want TT bombing to stop should up a fighter and do something about it. The whining :cry on 200 only brings more bombing. :t
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Originally posted by 68ROX
TT/FT are the largest waste of a country's resouces that there is.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's excitement.
Yeah, it ties up people who could be helping a team.
Yeah, it's the equivilent of NASCAR's "who want to see the accident"...
Does it hurt a countries efforts.......Yeah.
Does it take a countries teamwork and flush it down the toilet? Yeah.
If you want to win an arena a get perkies....it's a waste.
If you are only here for yourself, not a squad, not a country, then its a haven.
68ROX
The war is a reason to fight, and fighting (not warwinning) is what this game is based on. Anyone fighting, even if it's just a bunch of yokels in trucks, is playing the game as intended, whereas you warwinning "let's focus on the undefended bases" guys are not. Remember that.
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Here's a thought, jump into an airplane and play the game called Aces High II, if you want to play a tank game, go find one in the store and stop whining on the boards...
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Originally posted by Makoyouidiot
odd...I can park a sherman under a tree, pop off 3 smoke grenades, and stay there indefinitely :)
until someone like me drives over to your spawn and starts poping you guys from behind. :D
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Originally posted by 68ROX
TT/FT are the largest waste of a country's resouces that there is.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's excitement.
Yeah, it ties up people who could be helping a team.
Yeah, it's the equivilent of NASCAR's "who want to see the accident"...
Does it hurt a countries efforts.......Yeah.
Does it take a countries teamwork and flush it down the toilet? Yeah.
If you want to win an arena a get perkies....it's a waste.
If you are only here for yourself, not a squad, not a country, then its a haven.
68ROX
I'm all for winning the war, but if perks are all you are after try harder. I pulled 22 perks in one sortie at TT tonight with 29 kills and I wasn't even spwan campming.
I found myself a nice spot in the mix of the action and just kept popping tanks off left and right. I finally got killed trying to shoot the 30th guy but I was trying for a turret shot and missed. Funny thing was I had planned on hitting 30 kills and leaving to go land.. That greed will get yea everytime I swear.
I upped again went right back to the same spot and pulled another 12 or 15 perks out of the sherman.
lol 20 perks is easy to get with a few good sorties. Now I'm all for winning the war, but sometimes I just like to kill things.
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Also, as far as the spawn camping and no cover. If everyone would start popping smokes as they ran towards the town you would have fairly good cover. The smoke you pop that run in, won't help you unless you die right after you made it to town..However if everyone else did it too there would be smoke when ever you spawned.
That smoke from several tanks would give you cover into town. Of course that would never happen because it would require "tactics" and "teamwork".
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i say...lets all be bomb tards an bomb TT all the time 8)
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Originally posted by CAV
TT has always been a joke. But there are ways to fix it....
1st. Remove the spawn points. Have each side spawn at the V-base. No more spawn, shoot and die. We now have the "Classic Movement to Contact Battle"
2nd. Place a Map Room in the Town, the side that owns TT gets spawn in there too. So we have a reason to attack TT and be attacked by the other two sides not owning TT
This way we have larger more open battles, (no more spawn, shoot, die, repeat) Battles that will need "Team work & planning" I hope...
Cavalry
I like this idea,:aok Maybe put a grid of hedge rows around the town ,like Normandy was, this would create some good gv battles and being able to captur town would be a good goal.
Short of that, maybe we could bribe FESTER into makeing us an uber tt map.:D
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Originally posted by VWE
Here's a thought, jump into an airplane and play the game called Aces High II, if you want to play a tank game, go find one in the store and stop whining on the boards...
With the way AH is going with the new terrain, I wonder if it's not moving towards a combined arms game? Flying over some of the new farm terrain, it sure reminds me a lot of WWIIOL, and why put all that stuff out in the middle of nowwhere if you don't plan on having tanks drive around it at some point.
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Its called 'eye candy' makes the ground look realistic, if you wanna drive around the ground in an air sim be my guest but tank drivers is not what this sim is geared towards...
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Originally posted by VWE
Its called 'eye candy' makes the ground look realistic, if you wanna drive around the ground in an air sim be my guest but tank drivers is not what this sim is geared towards...
Then someone tell Dale to stop adding " TANKS " to his game.
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
The war is a reason to fight, and fighting (not warwinning) is what this game is based on. Anyone fighting, even if it's just a bunch of yokels in trucks, is playing the game as intended, whereas you warwinning "let's focus on the undefended bases" guys are not. Remember that.
While VVE is telling Dale about adding TANKS to his game you should lobby him to take out the troops, map room, M-3's, C-47's and any other way to capture a map then it will be as you described above.
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Map rooms, M-3's and C-47's are fine cause the troops are autonomous...
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I WONT PRETEND THAT I READ ALL THE POSTS,FIRST LET ME SAY GOLDELKS,ITS ONLY A JOKE BECAUSE YOUR NOT GETTING THE RESULTS YOU ONCE DID 2ND IF YOU WOULD PAY ATTENTION THERES COVER HILLS BUILDINGS AND SUCH,YOU NEED TO PUT MORE EFFORT INTO IT NOW MAKES IT MORE CHALLENGING
IM GLAD BUILDINGS CAN BE DESTROYED AGAIN LOVE IT WAY BACK WHEN,YOU JUST DONT LIKE IT BECAUSE ITS HARDER LOL FIGURES jERK :D
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:furious TT->camped->Stuka->:rofl
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Originally posted by tatertot
I WONT PRETEND THAT I READ ALL THE POSTS,FIRST LET ME SAY GOLDELKS,ITS ONLY A JOKE BECAUSE YOUR NOT GETTING THE RESULTS YOU ONCE DID 2ND IF YOU WOULD PAY ATTENTION THERES COVER HILLS BUILDINGS AND SUCH,YOU NEED TO PUT MORE EFFORT INTO IT NOW MAKES IT MORE CHALLENGING
IM GLAD BUILDINGS CAN BE DESTROYED AGAIN LOVE IT WAY BACK WHEN,YOU JUST DONT LIKE IT BECAUSE ITS HARDER LOL FIGURES jERK :D
Someone steal your caps key, tater?
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Nope i like yelling
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Originally posted by Grits
News Flash. TT has always been a joke.
Agreed, I never go to tank town anymore, used to a couple of years ago before spawn points were so close. I went in the other day just to see new version, same thing just different look.
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I up to Camp Town when I want some instant action
without alot of effort or thought. I kind of
trance out there. In Camp Town I put my mind
into neutral.
I wouldn't drive long distances to get there.
Put a forrest around Camp Town and have vehicles
spawn in them. The fight should be in the town.
Not getting to it.
David
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Originally posted by 96Delta
Put a forrest around Camp Town and have vehicles
spawn in them. The fight should be in the town.
Not getting to it.
Oh wow I really like that idea, I enjoy sneaking through town in first gear and the adrenaline that pumping when you pass an nme tank. The only thoughts that are running through your mind is can I get around to him before he gets me.:aok
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I heard that only frustrated la-gay pilots go to tank town.
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Originally posted by 68ROX
TT/FT are the largest waste of a country's resouces that there is.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's excitement.
Yeah, it ties up people who could be helping a team.
Yeah, it's the equivilent of NASCAR's "who want to see the accident"...
Does it hurt a countries efforts.......Yeah.
Does it take a countries teamwork and flush it down the toilet? Yeah.
If you want to win an arena a get perkies....it's a waste.
If you are only here for yourself, not a squad, not a country, then its a haven.
68ROX
:rofl
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Originally posted by 5PointOh
Oh wow I really like that idea, I enjoy sneaking through town in first gear and the adrenaline that pumping when you pass an nme tank. The only thoughts that are running through your mind is can I get around to him before he gets me.:aok
In such a situation the only thing going through my mind is an enemy tank round. When I try to spawn vehicles a dialog box pops up that says "Why bother?" I can't capture a base with an M3 because there aren't 10 troops drunk enough to get in with me...heck, even CARGO has been known to make a break for it.
Wash, rinse, and repeat for aircraft, of course...
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The people who call it more fun are the people who arent south west spawn :lol We need LOTTA trees, LOTTA hills, and plainly more cover. And i saw everyone getting hit, cuz the 2 other sides did an apparent truce, so more dead southwesters. LET US LIVE LONGER THAN A SECOND!!!:furious
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Originally posted by Lusche
That's why the Vhs are almost constantly down on some nights. All are just "returning the favor"...
Well honestly it does get old.. Last night Someone drops the Rook VH.. So I up a fighter I noticed the VH's popped and I was ready to go land my sortie. Then I see a Nits bomber rolling in 5 mins after the VH popped to see it go down once again.
So our VH was up for about 5 mins before it was hit again. So you don't think I'm going to go return the favor?
The night before last I had to go porks the Nit's A base on TT to stop the constant VH bombing. I don't play TT a lot but if I'm in the mood I'll jump in there and get some kills seems time and time again the V base keeps getting bombed.
Personally I think the only solution is to re-arrange the V bases so there is no way a single bomber formation can take out all the VH's in one pass at a V base. Seems like a logical solution to me.
In real life would all the hangers be grouped together so one bomber could take them all out?
From now on I think when the VH goes down and I'm trying to play TT I'm just going to up bombers and carpet bomb the other teams spawn. Seems fair enough to me.
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Originally posted by 68ROX
TT/FT are the largest waste of a country's resouces that there is.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's excitement.
Does it hurt a countries efforts.......Yeah.
Does it take a countries teamwork and flush it down the toilet? Yeah.
68ROX
I thought as a game, the point was to have fun.
What resources are being wasted in TT? Don't we have unlimited ammo, fuel and lives?
If by "resources" you mean other players, i'm not quite sure what to make of that. I've never viewed other players as "resources" to further my own agenda for playing the game and it's disturbing in a "Napoleon Complex" sort of way that you do. Their $14.95/month...their fun....
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Originally posted by crockett
Well honestly it does get old.. Last night Someone drops the Rook VH.. So I up a fighter I noticed the VH's popped and I was ready to go land my sortie. Then I see a Nits bomber rolling in 5 mins after the VH popped to see it go down once again.
I bet that very knit saw that as a retaliation strike for some rooks taking down our VH before. And so the wheel goes on and on... It's just like a vendetta in Albania, because every side will only stop it when the other side does stop it first
Or to speak in the words of the ancient philosopher Zappa: "The torture never stops!"
I guess the Categorical Imperative is something the ordinary AH user will never understand ... ;)
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:noid
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We plan to organize mass bombig missions
to reduce "Camp Town" and the enemy
bases that feed it to desolate wastelands. :t
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Originally posted by 68ROX
TT/FT are the largest waste of a country's resouces that there is.
Yeah, it's fun.
Yeah, it's excitement.
Yeah, it ties up people who could be helping a team.
Yeah, it's the equivilent of NASCAR's "who want to see the accident"...
Does it hurt a countries efforts.......Yeah.
Does it take a countries teamwork and flush it down the toilet? Yeah.
If you want to win an arena a get perkies....it's a waste.
If you are only here for yourself, not a squad, not a country, then its a haven.
68ROX
lolzomfgzroflmago
(http://www.magazineline.com/images/covers/MJEbig.jpg)
woooooooooooooooowoooooooooooooooooooooo
its a game, have fun. lolz
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morpheus! lol whats going on?
PS: tank town was always a joke.
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So many players in buffs over TT claiming they get spawncamped to death... sure.
All it takes is a few tries and some smoke and you get out however badly its camped. Better yet why not spend the 5 mins it takes to drive from VH and you are set. Alot faster than beeing whiny and upping buffs while sulking over getting killed in their tanks.
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Yep, you said it, Tank Town is a joke. Same as it ever was.
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TT has always been a JOKE.
You can thank me for dropping eggs on VH's. It's like killing every tank at once.
There's nothing more fun than ticking a whole country off at one time.
Here's a hint kill the ords and you won't have to worry about me dropping hangers.
Seriously, if AH focused on making this game more of a realistic war game there would be no TT anyway. Maybe HiTech should move TT to Practice arena or Offline play. Don't worry you only have to see me flying 25k over TT for another month anyway.
Nothing personal against any individual player, but all is fair in love and war.
here's to smoking hangers, Cheers
In fact after dropping hangers I then aim for ords at airbase to really get under the skin. :aok
well gotta go Vehicle Hangers to Bomb
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A couple of squaddies and I had more fun last night furballing over TT then I've had in AH in quite a while. Other than scenarios and FSO of course.
If ya don't like them bombing TT, up a plane and cover your buddies on the ground! Think I averaged 9 or 10 kills per flight and had a BALL!
And for the "waste of resources" whiners, I then proceeded to go help take 10 back...since the FPS got to low at prime time..:noid Did someone really say help win the war so we can get our perkies??? You can get more perks than that in 1 or 2 good flights! REEEEEELLAAAAAAXX.....
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I wear my sunglasses at night
so I can
so I can
bomb the dweebs in tank town
every night
I wear my sunglasses at night
so I can
so I can
watch the fireballs
from my stuka bomb!
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Nothing makes me smile more than droping bombs on a bunch of Gv'ers with 30+ kills.
Only to get messaged about tank town being only for tanks .ect
I wish tanks were seen everywhere like they use to be,not just all smack dab in the middle of the map.
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Bomb 'em into the stone age!
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LCA - Loose Cannons Alliance
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"tank town" has always been a joke. It hasn't changed in the last 4 years.. there are just new toys to use.
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Originally posted by StewyS
Here's a hint kill the ords and you won't have to worry about me dropping hangers.
Lol... do you even play the game?
Sooo... we are supposed to kill all the ammo bunkers withing bomber range, or are you going to announce what base you take off from when you go for VH bomb runs. :lol
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Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllll seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnn n!
:D
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Howdy :)
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lmao... just went to TT and one of the so called vets dumped on me after 10 seconds. :rofl
Atleast i know were he must go to get a kill now. :D
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If you put trees around the spawns to "protect" you dont you think it just may be a nice spot for someone to sit to camp you???
TT is what it is.. camp or be camped nothing more nothing less..
If you move the spawns back its just a further drive for the guys to camp you.... Of course if you kill them its also a period of time before they can get back so it may work..
I have dropped hangers at TT but only when the camping is so bad you are unable to up after 10-15 times and start your engines..
Only once have I taken bombers over TT to try and kill the GV'ers... ive always looked at bombing the GV's and dropping hangers as if it was fighter town where vulching and dropping hangers were considered poor gamesmanship...
I guess if the FT map makes it back we will see the whines on 200 when the FH's get dropped and vulching goes on from the fighter only guys..
Just my $.02
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husky01,bearkats or goldelks you think its a joke only because the score issues lol here ya go use goldelks for fighter attacks(vulching little bro),bearkats for buffs,husky01 for attacks,and another for tt then maybe you wont feel so bad lol
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:huh what are you talking about are you completely high? That made no since what so ever. Im not going around trolling your threads so there so there is no reason to go trolling mine. If your trying to make a joke make one up that makes some kinda since, if not don't try to be funny cause you arnt. Did you even read what you wrote?
:p
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I got a smile from Tatertot's post. Basically, he's saying that since you can no longer spawn camp in TT to boost your rank/score, why don't you start vulching your multiple accounts to boost your rank.
did I come close Tatertot?
ack-ack
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^^^^^:rofl^^^ :rofl^^^^ :rofl^^^ :rofl^^^
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If only I cared for rank it might be funny:rolleyes:
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ack-ack direct hit sir
lol he thinks im trolling his posts i think not he trolls his own 500:noid in his last one
and he thinks i make no sense WHATEVER
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:noid
you dont like the :noid post dont read the :noid post obviously if you dont like it dont read the :noid post no reason for you to post in it then:noid
Hope you like the :noid post!
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your right whatever,im the troll right ive read your post,but we can go with me
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Just have fun with it Ron loss in up a bit you've been acting sour towards me for a while and it was getting a lil old was all.:D
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Originally posted by 96Delta
Its still fun though....IF you can make it out of spawn! :D
I fly over there in a plane and see people driving from the V-base in tigers...so they don't get shot...oh yea BTW:
Perk the M4 and panzer same price as the tiger because this 1 shot 1 kill crap from a m4 and a panzer is bs.
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Originally posted by sgt203
If you put trees around the spawns to "protect" you dont you think it just may be a nice spot for someone to sit to camp you???
TT is what it is.. camp or be camped nothing more nothing less..
If you move the spawns back its just a further drive for the guys to camp you.... Of course if you kill them its also a period of time before they can get back so it may work..
I have dropped hangers at TT but only when the camping is so bad you are unable to up after 10-15 times and start your engines..
Only once have I taken bombers over TT to try and kill the GV'ers... ive always looked at bombing the GV's and dropping hangers as if it was fighter town where vulching and dropping hangers were considered poor gamesmanship...
I guess if the FT map makes it back we will see the whines on 200 when the FH's get dropped and vulching goes on from the fighter only guys..
Just my $.02
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Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner!:aok