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Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: daddog on April 18, 2007, 03:30:31 PM
This is the planned setup for this coming Friday the 20th. My HD crashed a few days ago, but thankfully I had already posted the setup in the AVA staff forum. Soda or one of the staff will set this up for me until I get back. Right now I am viewing boards and e-mails only until I fix my HD or purchase and load up a new one.

I am not sure about the spawn points for the GV's as I tossed them in as an after thought from Fork.

Allied Aircraft:
P-38L
P-47D-25
P-51D
B-17
B-24
Spitfire Mk XIV
Typhoon 1B
Sherman
M16
C47

Axis Aircraft:
Bf 109G-14
Bf 109K-4
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190F-8
Fw 190D-9
Ju 88A-4
Ar 234B
Panzer
Ostwind
C47

(http://www.332nd.org/dogs/daddog/DDayplus90strat.jpg)

Arena Settings:
Killshooter - on
Friendly collisions - off
Fuel burn – 1.0
Visibility - full
Radar – approximately 30 miles
Object down time – 1 hour
Base capture: 20 troops
Ack - .5
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: WMDnow on April 18, 2007, 03:31:23 PM
Sweet.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Trukk on April 18, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
That looks good!  One question, "Killshooter - on", does that apply to tail gunners hitting another bomber?  It'd be pretty easy to kill accidently kill yourself in a close formation.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: daddog on April 18, 2007, 04:55:31 PM
I am not 100% sure, but I don't think you can shoot bombers in your own formation, just others if kill shooter is on.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: KONG1 on April 18, 2007, 05:28:17 PM
Thanks Dad. Looks good.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on April 19, 2007, 07:33:20 AM
Looks good. Looks like the Thursday Night Mission is ganna be B17s & P51s vs. 109K4 & 190A8s.

Edit: Ill load up the mission fields and targets when the mad is loaded.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on April 19, 2007, 08:43:54 AM
One thing I see wrong is theres no 109G6 and Tiger.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: jtoups on April 19, 2007, 09:39:55 AM
looks awesome.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: soda72 on April 20, 2007, 12:49:22 AM
Should be setup now
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on April 20, 2007, 05:54:39 AM
I don't know if it was made this way but fields in england and most bases back off the front line have no planes. I wanted the B17s and DPonys to take off from england so they can get up to alt.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Panzzer on April 20, 2007, 06:38:31 AM
I think daddog's original idea was to use just the bases marked on the map. But maybe someone could enable the planes at your field of choice on Thursday for the mission. Or make the bombers and escorts fly a round or two above the sea to get alt.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on April 20, 2007, 08:11:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Panzzer
I think daddog's original idea was to use just the bases marked on the map. But maybe someone could enable the planes at your field of choice on Thursday for the mission. Or make the bombers and escorts fly a round or two above the sea to get alt.



Would like a CM to enable the b17 and p51 on a large AF some where in southern england. Don't think its a good idea to up a mass of bombers and heavy ponys that close to the front line. All it would take is one guy to scerw up the mission. If they could enable them at A21 grid 8,11,4 it would be great.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: storch on April 20, 2007, 11:03:14 AM
a suggestion.  you have ackllied bases within two sectors of the acksis HQ.  that seems to be short sightedness at best.  may I suggest those to channged to the acksis side?  these bases are on the acksis side of the seine btw.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: soda72 on April 20, 2007, 02:29:09 PM
I added the b24, b17, and  p51D at A21,  I dont think Daddog would mind...


As for the other bases being to close to HQ, I'll let daddog respond to see if he wants to change that up...
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on April 20, 2007, 02:33:44 PM
Thanks soda I made the mission pic already but need kong to host it on JG54 website because all I have is geocities and banwith there is like 10mbs I think.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: daddog on April 20, 2007, 02:42:56 PM
Gents,

With my HD down I really can't even look to see where the HQ is and make adjustments let alone get online and correct oversights on my part. I am trying to recall, but I don't think HQ is going to be a real problem.  

Soda thanks for setting this up. Np with A21. :) You guys make adjustments as you see fit.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 02, 2007, 06:09:55 PM
Thought I'd have a look at this one, see if things had changed, guess not.

D-DAY +90 = so guessing early Sep 1944.

190D9 - Jan 1945

No Spit 16 (LF IXe) - Jun 1944
No Tempest - Apr 44

So yet another -
crippled allied planeset v a "yet again lets put in it ealry" LW planeset.

And you wonder why you can't get guys in, SHEESH.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Dichotomy on May 02, 2007, 06:28:32 PM
you know sometimes if you can't say anything nice you should probably not go to the trouble to type and hit enter ...
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 02, 2007, 06:42:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dichotomy
you know sometimes if you can't say anything nice you should probably not go to the trouble to type and hit enter ...


If I'm wrong I'll apologise, but I'm not.

2TAF flew a mixutre of Spits, but mainly LFIX and LFIXe (XVI), so I guess your saying they didn't exist.
Basically you've just done what the Germans couldn't, eliminated the most flown Spit of 1944.

The D-9 at our boost was ready to be deployed end of Dec 1944, so wouldn't have seen service till Jan 45 at the earliest.
So you've just introduced it 4 months ahead of time.

Dunno whats worse-
The fact you still like to advertise the AvA as historical, or the fact that some of you seem to believe it.

Something constructive -
Maybe if you actually do make it historical, you might get some more guys to try it out. (not that I expect it to happen)
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Dichotomy on May 02, 2007, 07:22:58 PM
As much as I despise getting in an argument on the intardnet my suggestion would be to either A) see if you can join the staff and help with the scenarios or B) participate even if you don't like the set up and make constructive suggestions on how to improve them.  

Respectfully yours,
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Oldman731 on May 02, 2007, 07:42:01 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dichotomy
As much as I despise getting in an argument on the intardnet my suggestion would be to either A) see if you can join the staff and help with the scenarios or B) participate even if you don't like the set up and make constructive suggestions on how to improve them.  

Respectfully yours,

Give it up, Dicho.  So far as I know, Kev367 rarely, if ever, comes into the AvA.  You could let him do the setup himself, and he still wouldn't come in for more than an hour a month.  He is the epitome of a dog in the manger.  Periodically he will look in, find that an enabled airplane is either a month too early or a month too late, declare that no one flys in AvA because it has not even a remote connection to history, make fun of the staff for being self-delusional imbeciles, and prance off to cleanse the next chapel.  I assume from his opening clause that we should be grateful that he has deigned to take a look at Daddog's setup.  I, for one, am not.  Frankly, I am sick and tired of his nasty little-dog yapping, and I urge him to simply stay away from the AvA, give his self-important lectures to small, ignorant children, and fly in the more historical Main Arenas.

- oldman
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 02, 2007, 08:27:23 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Oldman731
Give it up, Dicho.  So far as I know, Kev367 rarely, if ever, comes into the AvA.  You could let him do the setup himself, and he still wouldn't come in for more than an hour a month.  He is the epitome of a dog in the manger.  Periodically he will look in, find that an enabled airplane is either a month too early or a month too late, declare that no one flys in AvA because it has not even a remote connection to history, make fun of the staff for being self-delusional imbeciles, and prance off to cleanse the next chapel.  I assume from his opening clause that we should be grateful that he has deigned to take a look at Daddog's setup.  I, for one, am not.  Frankly, I am sick and tired of his nasty little-dog yapping, and I urge him to simply stay away from the AvA, give his self-important lectures to small, ignorant children, and fly in the more historical Main Arenas.

- oldman


Truth hurts doesn't it?

Yes when the AvA was 'reborn' I did come in quite a few times during the initial RPS setup, until I realised all that changed was the name.
As did most other people, and they left also.

1 hour a month, your being generous.


Constructive? OK here goes -

2TAF had 14 (ish) LFIX and IXe in 1944, in fact they made up roughly half of 2 TAF strength.
The LFIXe is the same as the XVI, so enable the XVI.

2 TAF also contained some Tempest squadrons, so enalble them also.

The D9 was at best Dec late 1944, morel likely Jan 45, so should be disabled.

Constructive enough?

What you have at the moment is basically saying that 2 TAF which was setup specifically for the invasion was 'missing' around half its force.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Dichotomy on May 02, 2007, 08:45:29 PM
RGR that Old

Kev

I retract anything that might have offended you in any of my posts as you are obviously an expert and I am flying bait.  I hope you take this in the spirit in which it is intended.  

Warmest wishes

Someone who disagrees with your perception.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 02, 2007, 08:55:42 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dichotomy
RGR that Old

Kev

I retract anything that might have offended you in any of my posts as you are obviously an expert and I am flying bait.  I hope you take this in the spirit in which it is intended.  

Warmest wishes

Someone who disagrees with your perception.


No problem.

It's just I know my Spits.

I just find it incredulous that almost 1/2 of 2 TAF's fighter strength is mysteriously 'missing'.
Given the fact that 2 TAF was SPECIFICALLY formed for the upcoming D-Day invasion.

Even if was decided that XVI shouldn't be used as a stand-in LF IXe (which would be a ridiculous decision, they are the same plane with the motor manufactured in different countries), it would still be around a short time after.
If they are 'willing' to introduce a D9 4 months ahead of time, there shouldn't be a problem with 1 or 2 months, should there?

Probably a lot of people who still don't know or realise -
LF IX - 1943 with 303s
LF IXe - pre June 1944 with 50cals
Both with Merlin 66

XVI - Oct 1944 Merlin 266 (Merlin 66 maunfactured in the US, 2 meaning manufactured abroad)

Spit XVIs and LF IX came off the same assembly line side by side.
Only thing that decided whether it was a IX or XVI was where the motor that was fitted, was manufactured.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Dichotomy on May 02, 2007, 09:15:00 PM
As I said.. see if you can join the AVA staff and make changes.  *shrug*

Sadly I couldn't trust my connection enough tonight to get in the air.  Big storms in N Texas.

Bummer :cry
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 02, 2007, 09:22:22 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Dichotomy
As I said.. see if you can join the AVA staff and make changes.  *shrug*

Sadly I couldn't trust my connection enough tonight to get in the air.  Big storms in N Texas.

Bummer :cry


Seen it on the news, hope you don't lose your power, I always do.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Slash27 on May 03, 2007, 12:17:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kev367th
Truth hurts doesn't it?

 


Oldman did tear you a new one. You ok little camper?:(
Title: an opinion based on observation
Post by: storch on May 03, 2007, 07:42:55 AM
Kev367th is a runner and the epitome of lame game player, a totally repugnant personality. he should be a BoP as he would feel right at home with that group. I was warned via PM by another player that he is also the father of one of the higher ups at HTC and that I might find myself banned from the BBS and the game if I called him names.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Dichotomy on May 03, 2007, 01:14:10 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Kev367th
Seen it on the news, hope you don't lose your power, I always do.


TY... it was sketchy for a while no damage.
Title: Re: an opinion based on observation
Post by: Kev367th on May 03, 2007, 08:10:05 PM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
Kev367th is a runner and the epitome of lame game player, a totally repugnant personality. he should be a BoP as he would feel right at home with that group. I was warned via PM by another player that he is also the father of one of the higher ups at HTC and that I might find myself banned from the BBS and the game if I called him names.


LOL, you are so full of it.

I think you actually believe that pile big brown smelly doodoo.

Me a father of one of AH higher ups LOLOLOLOLOL.
Where do you get this crap from. (even Truekill would tell you its crap)

A quick look at the BB and the numerous run-ins I've had with HT would show this to be a pile, just like the rest of your 'statement'.
Sorry Storchy your credibility (what was left) has just vanished in a puuf.

Maybe one day you'll enlighten them to whole running incident, HUH?
The co-alt A6M and you in your F4-U4, what 5-6K higher?
Me in a climbing heavy Tiffy for the CV.
How I drug you to the deck and you were DUMB enough to follow.
Then tried to rope me, LOLOLOLOLOL.

HUH?

Is it really true you only open your mouth to change feet?
Must be, some-one PM'ed me in game (allegedly) and said it was.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 03, 2007, 08:19:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Slash27
Oldman did tear you a new one. You ok little camper?:(


No-one has yet explained the mysterious disappearence of 50% of 2 TAF fighter force?
Remembering - 2 TAF was specifically formed for the D-day invasion.

Guess 1/2 (Spits) went home in Sept for a well deserved rest, tea and crumpets.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Slash27 on May 03, 2007, 09:56:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Kev367th
No-one has yet explained the mysterious disappearence of 50% of 2 TAF fighter force?
Remembering - 2 TAF was specifically formed for the D-day invasion.

Guess 1/2 (Spits) went home in Sept for a well deserved rest, tea and crumpets.


You do know we are not re-enacting the D-Day invasion don't you?:huh
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on May 03, 2007, 10:23:38 PM
Kev they tryed haveing a Rhine map with brit planes enabled. Every allied was flying spit14s and temps. There are no perks in the AvA so anyone can up them. They tryed limiting the bases they fly outa but that only ment they fly two sectors and came in at 25k in them. Its no fun trying to find a fight at 5k with cons B&Zing you with uber planes.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Grits on May 03, 2007, 10:32:47 PM
Kev, the fact that Storch, Slash, TK and I all agree that you are not being helpful should tell you something. I cant, in the 4 years I've been here, remember anything that we all were on the same side before.

Your view of the AvA staffs handling of certain sets is well known. Feel free to continue to offer that view if you wish, and expect to have it ignored.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Larry on May 03, 2007, 10:40:57 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Grits
Kev, the fact that Storch, Slash, TK and I all agree that you are not being helpful should tell you something. I cant, in the 4 years I've been here, remember anything that we all were on the same side before.
 



We all agree that Jg54 is the bestest squad in the game and we pwn all who face us.:D
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Slash27 on May 04, 2007, 12:18:42 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Larry
We all agree that Jg54 is the bestest squad in the game and we pwn all who face us.:D


yeah, about that......

















:D
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: straffo on May 04, 2007, 12:46:31 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Slash27
You do know we are not re-enacting the D-Day invasion don't you?:huh


So what are you doing ?
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Slash27 on May 04, 2007, 12:50:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
So what are you doing ?




Allied Aircraft:
P-38L
P-47D-25
P-51D
B-17
B-24
Spitfire Mk XIV
Typhoon 1B
Sherman
M16
C47

Axis Aircraft:
Bf 109G-14
Bf 109K-4
Bf 110G-2
Fw 190A-8
Fw 190F-8
Fw 190D-9
Ju 88A-4
Ar 234B
Panzer
Ostwind
C47
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Kev367th on May 04, 2007, 01:48:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by straffo
So what are you doing ?


Well its called D-Day + 90, so like I said way, way, back I'm guessing it's around early Sept 1944. (June + 90 days if my math serves me)

I guess they are saying that by Sept, 2nd TAF had all gone home (or at least the Spits and Temps had).

Truekill - Thanks for trying to explain things.
It falls down one one point though - the XIV IS ENABLED.

Gritts - Doesn't surprise me that you all 'close ranks' so to speak, in fact I'd expect it.
Title: D-Day Plus 90
Post by: Slash27 on May 04, 2007, 04:22:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Kev367th
Gritts - Doesn't surprise me that you all 'close ranks' so to speak, in fact I'd expect it.


What would you know about it? You don't fly the AvA ,you just lurk on the BBS waiting to cry about Spitfires. Why is that anyway?