Aces High Bulletin Board

General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Killjoy2 on April 19, 2007, 04:19:06 PM

Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Killjoy2 on April 19, 2007, 04:19:06 PM
Every country should have a rear base with German super weapons including V1 , V2 and a GO-229

Strategy would be to cripple production by killing supply to the base or closing base to prevent V1's hitting your headquarters.  Not to mention GO-229 finishing the war if you get too far behind.

Mmmmmmm Super weapons.
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Krusty on April 19, 2007, 04:23:36 PM


Go229 was a pipe dream. They made a couple but it was far from full-blown production.

Not to mention the small size and lack of vertical surface area, it would be a death trap.

Flying wings worked in WW2's time, but only if they had vertical surface area (such as long engine nacells acting as stabilizers on the Northrop design) but a completely tailless, small, flying wing design in 1945? They were dreaming. It would be many decades until fly-by-wire designs allowed this configuration to be feasible.

Note that the germans also had some Luft '46 designs with forward swept wings. If you recall the X-29 showed definitively these designs are too hard to control without computer fly-by-wire doing it for you.

Just because they made it doesn't mean it was an uber weapon. It wouldn't have changed the war one iota.

Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Brenjen on April 19, 2007, 04:35:10 PM
That's debatable, mostly because there is no test data to support either view. The U.S. flying wing program needed fly by wire for certain. Whether the Germans had an idea to counter the inherent instability we'll probably never know unless there is some WWII era German data out there I'm unaware of.

 I'm of the opinion the super weapon idea would be a bust.
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: kennyhayes on April 19, 2007, 05:07:26 PM
Yeah that not going to happen that like fa-18 super hornet vs a c47 no need to have super weapons it is funer to do it the hard way.




_____________________________ __-
I KNOW WHAT YOU DID IN YOU'R JEEP.
Title: Re: German Super Weapons
Post by: Lusche on April 19, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Killjoy2
Every country should have a rear base with German super weapons including V1 , V2 and a GO-229

Strategy would be to cripple production by killing supply to the base or closing base to prevent V1's hitting your headquarters.  Not to mention GO-229 finishing the war if you get too far behind.

Mmmmmmm Super weapons.


If modeled even just vaguely "realistic", I would not worry about V1 / V2 hitting anything in this game....
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Grendel on April 19, 2007, 05:31:54 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Krusty

Go229 was a pipe dream. They made a couple but it was far from full-blown production.


Flying wings worked in WW2's time, but only if they had vertical surface area (such as long engine nacells acting as stabilizers on the Northrop design) but a completely tailless, small, flying wing design in 1945? They were dreaming.



Dream, that worked, flew and flew nicely.
Horten brothers had developed their flying wings for a decade or two already, and had excellent experience and practical knowledge on how to do the planes. And the test flights had proved the design.
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Bingolong on April 19, 2007, 05:44:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8KnoEcsM94
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMWJoO5lvDA
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Killjoy2 on April 19, 2007, 07:06:07 PM
Thats the coolest pictures of the GO-229 I've ever seen.  

I dunno, it looks airworthy to me.  


Come on guys, dosen't anyboyd remember SWOTL?
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: FLS on April 19, 2007, 08:07:20 PM
The Horton flying wings are stable. Northrup used a different design.

The Nurflugel website has lots of info and pictures.

http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/nurflugel.html
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Mr No Name on April 19, 2007, 10:09:03 PM
IL2 '46 has the GO229
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Vadjan-Sama on April 19, 2007, 10:32:56 PM
This 226 is simply beautiful, incredible and is advanced design, although already it is left the way clear that took since one sees airplanes like the 163


http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14644&page=2

The pics on the video and some more
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: nickf620 on April 19, 2007, 10:58:37 PM
what was the name of the German experimental suicide attack jet the one that was flown by a pilot in the plane and they just crash it into a target?
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Charge on April 20, 2007, 03:13:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYbxycf4JZU&mode=related&search=

Flys nicely even as a model without any advanced control methods....

However, I wouldn't throw it into a spin voluntarily.

-C+
Title: German Super Weapons
Post by: Lusche on April 20, 2007, 04:11:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by nickf620
what was the name of the German experimental suicide attack jet the one that was flown by a pilot in the plane and they just crash it into a target?


Fi 103R "Reichenberg-Gerät" - a manned version of the V1. Was not used in combat though.