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Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Ayers on April 20, 2007, 02:00:17 AM
I'm afraid I'm probably asking an already asked question, but forgive my ignorance as I'm still in the two week trial and trying to learn a bit more about Aces High.

I haven't flown a lot, having started out getting murdered in tanks.  But I've taken up a Spitfire a few times now and enjoyed trying to get better at the flying part of the game.

While flying late tonight, I encountered the same situations on all three of the flights i took.

First time I was up in a Spitfire and alone, when a higher FW 190 and Ki-84 jumped me.  the FW 190 tried to head on me but missed.  I then started to turn with him and the other guy jumped in.  I managed to shoot him down and then the FW 190 ran away from me.  

I'd taken a full fuel tank and a drop tank so I started heading toward their base when I saw another FW 190 above and behind me as I chased the first 190.  I turned back towards him and he tried to shoot me in the nose but missed.  The other FW 190 kept going and the 2nd FW 190 then ran towards my base.  He must have figured out he was going the wrong way because he turned away from the base and kept climbing.  I was following him but not gaining on him.  I then saw another Ki-84 above and behind me.  So i turned back to him.  The FW 190 kept going away and the Ki-84 tried to shoot me in the nose and then he ran away towards his base.

I thought this game was really about air combat but no one wanted to fight.  It was kind of boring really.

I'd tried the tanks bit but always seemed to get blown up before I could get my engine started most times.

Is that how the game always is?

Thanks for the input.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: sgt203 on April 20, 2007, 02:10:46 AM
:noid :noid

to answer your questions

Yes and No..

I would expand more but I smell something fishy here.........
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Major Biggles on April 20, 2007, 02:12:46 AM
nah, you can get some great fights. sounds like you found some timid idiots
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 20, 2007, 02:18:29 AM
*sniff* yup.

You survived a long time,and took alot of head on's
you are ither somewhat skilled or lucky.

Combat is depending on the situation, if these guys had the alt/seed/angel advantage,but you still slid in behind them, any pilot would try to run.

Now the fact you were aware enough to spot targets all around you "compentant use of view keys,or head set" enough to turn and attack a person who jumped in behind you. "multiple times"

Skilled or lucky,you may be a newbie to aceshigh,doubtful your a newbie with a aircraft tho.
D'oh,your question..plane,situation..pilots.
You will get the major of each type of pilot from time to time.

"Throws two cents"
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: moot on April 20, 2007, 05:45:08 AM
What M. Biggles said.

The game is not always like that, it only has a lot of players who fly that way.  There are many players who will risk anything in the game to have a good fight.. Over time (since early AH days) the scale has tipped to the side of fight-less players (either noobs or scared or lazy.. the why of the matter would fill another thread altogether), but not by so much that you can't manage to get at least half of your sorties to include some good fights.

The tank thing is mostly due to the maps not being optimized for them.  "Tank town" in the middle of the center island on the ndisles map is an example of what just one variable (spawn point location) can do to sway things wrong.
Even so, you just need to learn to recognize when and where good ground vehicle fights happen.. they do, in the right circumstances.

There are many organized events, historical and not, with anywhere from 50 to 500+ participants, that you might find more fun.
Check the event calendar (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/calendar.php?s=), and the official events website (http://ahevents.org) for more info.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Ghosth on April 20, 2007, 07:22:51 AM
Depends, if your at 16k, yes you'll find few that want to come up and dance.

If your at 8k you'll find a few who are willing to take a swing at you. Might have to duck a HO or 2.

But if your at 1-4k and trailing a stream of leaking fuel you'll have every con in 50 miles trying to climb up your backside.
Title: Re: Question from a newbie
Post by: Oldman731 on April 20, 2007, 07:30:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ayers
he tried to shoot me in the nose but missed.  

I like this expression!

Stop into the Axis v. Allies arena some night if you see at least one other person in there.  Can't promise that no one will try to shoot you in the nose, but I can promise that they will come back.

- oldman
Title: Re: Question from a newbie
Post by: Murdr on April 20, 2007, 07:44:59 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ayers
the FW 190 tried to head on me but missed.......and then the FW 190 ran away from me.  
That's what 190's do if they don't have the option of cherry picking someone in an ongoing fight :)
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Max on April 20, 2007, 08:49:04 AM
A day in the life of a FW190 pile-it:

1. Grab 18,000 agl
2. Dive in, pork up a base
3. Vulch the runway until ammo's gone
4. Run home
5. Repeat

:rofl


Apologies to Doom :D
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: JB88 on April 20, 2007, 08:51:54 AM
the futures so bright.

he's gotta wear shades.

:cool:
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: hubsonfire on April 20, 2007, 09:33:45 AM
This the same Ayers that was on 200 taunting people?
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Donzo on April 20, 2007, 10:08:13 AM
It's funny how the "feel" of the start of this thread
Quote
I thought this game was really about air combat but no one wanted to fight. It was kind of boring really.

is in line with the Horde Mentatlity thread and this is Ayers first post.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Husky01 on April 20, 2007, 10:09:04 AM
Something isn't right here...


:noid
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: USCH on April 20, 2007, 11:01:47 AM
bs (cough)....cough
just my .02
Title: Re: Question from a newbie
Post by: Flame 2 the boy on April 20, 2007, 11:12:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Ayers
I'm afraid I'm probably asking an already asked question, but forgive my ignorance as I'm still in the two week trial and trying to learn a bit more about Aces High.

I haven't flown a lot, having started out getting murdered in tanks.  But I've taken up a Spitfire a few times now and enjoyed trying to get better at the flying part of the game.

While flying late tonight, I encountered the same situations on all three of the flights i took.

First time I was up in a Spitfire and alone, when a higher FW 190 and Ki-84 jumped me.  the FW 190 tried to head on me but missed.  I then started to turn with him and the other guy jumped in.  I managed to shoot him down and then the FW 190 ran away from me.  

I'd taken a full fuel tank and a drop tank so I started heading toward their base when I saw another FW 190 above and behind me as I chased the first 190.  I turned back towards him and he tried to shoot me in the nose but missed.  The other FW 190 kept going and the 2nd FW 190 then ran towards my base.  He must have figured out he was going the wrong way because he turned away from the base and kept climbing.  I was following him but not gaining on him.  I then saw another Ki-84 above and behind me.  So i turned back to him.  The FW 190 kept going away and the Ki-84 tried to shoot me in the nose and then he ran away towards his base.

I thought this game was really about air combat but no one wanted to fight.  It was kind of boring really.

I'd tried the tanks bit but always seemed to get blown up before I could get my engine started most times.

Is that how the game always is?

Thanks for the input.


Did these happen to be rooks? lol j/k
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Flint on April 20, 2007, 11:49:08 AM
Ok, I'll bite.

Spit v 190, all you're going to get is slashing attacks - the 190 won't try to turn with you 'cos that = dead.

The Ki v Spit is a nice matchup but obviously he didn't fancy it, was low on fuel or ammo or damaged or squad called him down for an op. or a coward ;)

So basically it's only 1 fight you didn't get, not 3.

The beauty of this game is that no sortie is EVER the same, hope you stick with it.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Ayers on April 20, 2007, 12:10:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
This the same Ayers that was on 200 taunting people?


I didn't think I was taunting actually.  I was asking them why they didn't want to fight.  It seeemed kind of silly for them to fly all the way to near my base and then to run all the way back to their base without having done anything.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Donzo on April 20, 2007, 12:12:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ayers
It seeemed kind of silly for them to fly all the way to near my base and then to run all the way back to their base without having done anything.


They did do something...they got under your skin :lol
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Shifty on April 20, 2007, 12:13:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Donzo
It's funny how the "feel" of the start of this thread
 
is in line with the Horde Mentatlity thread and this is Ayers first post.


Maybe he's putting on Ayers. ;)
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: storch on April 20, 2007, 12:22:48 PM
sounds like to got your first introduction to the BoPs.  you will get used to seeing their backsides as the elbows pump and the knees lift in rythym to the tune "I am woman"
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Solar10 on April 20, 2007, 12:25:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by storch
sounds like to got your first introduction to the BoPs.  you will get used to seeing their backsides as the elbows pump and the knees lift in rythym to the tune "I am woman"


Ok BoPs... Who told Storch about our song?
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 20, 2007, 12:27:04 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Max
A day in the life of a FW190 pile-it:

1. Grab 18,000 agl
2. Dive in, pork up a base
3. Vulch the runway until ammo's gone
4. Run home
5. Repeat

:rofl


Apologies to Doom :D


lol, Doom dosent pork he deackes it, and he go higher then 18.000...


:noid

~VansCrew~
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Charge on April 20, 2007, 12:30:36 PM
Them 190 pilots are a bunch of cowards.

Then again you could try upping a 190 and I guarantee you will get your dog fight... :p

Try it and post your experiences. :)

-C+
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: DieAz on April 20, 2007, 12:33:53 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Max
A day in the life of a FW190 pile-it:

1. Grab 18,000 agl
2. Dive in, pork up a base
3. Vulch the runway until ammo's gone
4. Run home
5. Repeat

:rofl


Apologies to Doom :D


:rofl    oh Doom say it ain't so.  does Doom even read this board?  :t
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Flatbar on April 20, 2007, 12:39:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Ayers
I didn't think I was taunting actually.  I was asking them why they didn't want to fight.  It seeemed kind of silly for them to fly all the way to near my base and then to run all the way back to their base without having done anything.



A two weeker already talking smack on 200?

Seems weird to me, smells like a troll abusing the free 2 week trial....but whadda I know.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Lusche on April 20, 2007, 12:46:07 PM
Shades. :cool:
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: BBBB on April 20, 2007, 12:53:21 PM
Quote
Originally posted by sgt203
:noid :noid

to answer your questions

Yes and No..

I would expand more but I smell something fishy here.........


Roger that. I think it might be the bait.

:noid
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: SirLoin on April 20, 2007, 12:58:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DieAz
:rofl    oh Doom say it ain't so.  does Doom even read this board?  :t


no
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Max on April 20, 2007, 09:36:48 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DieAz
:rofl    oh Doom say it ain't so.  does Doom even read this board?  :t


Actually, Doom is one of the 190 drivers who will fight to the death. My statement of "apologies to Doom" was intended to distinguish him apart from the Boom, Zoom and run Dora crowd.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Stang on April 20, 2007, 09:42:39 PM
Doom is also one of the funnier guys on 200.  Makes for a fun chase when he's scurrying around in that FW while wispering sweet nothings in Furball's ear.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: DieAz on April 21, 2007, 12:17:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Max
Actually, Doom is one of the 190 drivers who will fight to the death. My statement of "apologies to Doom" was intended to distinguish him apart from the Boom, Zoom and run Dora crowd.





ohhh ok, now it makes sense. :)
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: hubsonfire on April 21, 2007, 12:58:34 AM
Doom is a stick stirring fw weenie. He's like stang, but without the lisp.
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: DieAz on April 21, 2007, 01:16:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by hubsonfire
Doom is a stick stirring fw weenie. He's like stang, but without the lisp.


I wish he would stir more often, it makes him an easy target when he does it in front of me.  ;)
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: DarkS1ar on April 21, 2007, 04:20:51 AM
DOES ANYONE NEED A GUNNER
Title: Question from a newbie
Post by: Nilsen on April 21, 2007, 04:41:03 AM
D9 drivers are a special breed. Dunno what it is about that plane that attracts the hit-n-runners cause there is even "better planes" like the spixteen to do it in but they seem to find a home in the D9.