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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AAolds on April 21, 2007, 01:33:00 AM
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Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models, and the same GD squealing maps all the time. Im gonna take a break and see if I still want to pay/play anymore after this tour.
My hats off to those who were my allies and friends.
See ya around.
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Simple, concise delivery initially gave you high marks. However, any professional quitter will tell you that returning 'in a limited capacity' are words that have absolutely no place in a quitting post. It simply carries no weight, and quite frankly makes you sound like a whiner who had a bad night and posted while under the influence.
When you eventually quit from your limited capacity return, I suggest you use the search function to research the form and content of a proper departure message.
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Dude, my minds not made up, read the post again and you will see such is evident. FYI, posts like yours only show you to be an AH. :aok
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Easy fix.
Learn to fight.
As brought up in another thread...
Originally posted by Pyro
The game is about aerial combat and that takes precedence to everything else. There will be tanks and such in the game but they won't ever be the main focus.
Vehicles will be useful for harrassing the enemy and capturing bases. There will be a lot more vehicle bases scattered around the terrain than airfields, so the travel distances won't be a huge factor.
But the gist of the message is that yes, we'll be putting more into this game than airplanes but our focus of the game is still aerial combat.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
Originally posted by HiTech
Some play the game to fulfill the actual parameters that it was designed for, which is to overcome and conquer bases, and eventually the country, thus winning the war/game.
This is a false assumption.
The game was designed to have fun at different types of combat. Conquering bases is just a means to promote combat and hence fun. But by no means is it more or less justified than going out and just mixing it up.
HiTech
So far it APPEARS that you are focusing in on the parts of the game that are just there to "promote aerial combat" and missing the whole main focus of AcesHigh.
Looking at your score for the past 5 months (you started in December I guess) you do mostly bomber runs and GV sorties. Those are the "Side Shows" of the game. They are included in the game to help create fights for the fighters.
Many new(ish) players tend towards flying bombers and drivin' gv's because let's face it, they are easy to do. Takes little skill to slug it out in tanks, and the bombing model we currently have is a joke. ANYBODY can learn to bomb, and bomb reasonably well in a short amount of time. Not that hard to sit there in a tank and spawn camp in TT.
So one of the main reasons you are frustrated is... You don't know how to dogfight worth a crud yet. Only being able to get one kill every 2-3 sorties has got to get old. (hence all the buff flying and gv driving I guess)
Give it time. Log some training sessions w/ one of the fantastic Trainers. Get 1/2 way decent in a fighter and you will find that you will enjoy it AH SO much more. (it's gonna take a lot more time to figure out how to dogfight than bombing or tanking it. Years probably)
Focus on what the game was really designed for. You will find much more enjoyment that way. Get decent in a fighter and you'll see that "uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models" are really not that big of a deal, or are no longer an issue.
(Disclaimer: I take bases, pork strat, GV, Jabo, AND furball. I enjoy almost all facets of the game and I think that's one main reason that 5-6yrs down the road I am here and still enjoying it)
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Olds,
you impulsive turdmonkey. You are suffering from frustratius disenfranchi, commonly known as Aces High Burnout. You'll be back, trust me. ;)
In the interim, enjoy your shore leave. It was fun to stir the proverbial turdpot with you at TT the past week. Perhaps after you've recuperated, we can do so again.
Best regards, Odd
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Even if you leave you will be back within a tour or two.
When i get back from my sailing trip on wednesday i bet ill see you logged on.
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Originally posted by OddCAF
Olds,
you impulsive turdmonkey. You are suffering from frustratius disenfranchi, commonly known as Aces High Burnout. You'll be back, trust me. ;)
Never post while suffering from frustratius disenfranchi,never.
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This is too FUNNY :lol :lol
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he got everyonepwnd! :lol
whatcha need to do AA is get a niki and ho the crap outta people and then make fun of them for being crappy at the game on 200, brings all the fun back :aok
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Originally posted by WMLute
So far it APPEARS that you are focusing in on the parts of the game that are just there to "promote aerial combat" and missing the whole main focus of AcesHigh.
This is a very wise post.
And take heart, I often fly multiple sorties without getting a kill, and I still enjoy this game to pieces.
- oldman
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Originally posted by WMLute
gv's because let's face it, they are easy to do.
Just an observation the last year or so but..
Bingo, TT is so popular because the new breed get schooled in dogfights. Instead of upping again and trying to develop ACM (hell I'm still learning too) they jump into the "spawn camping, quake war, easy mode, insta action, get my kills on the radio text fast, ground war".
For that I love to bomb those RTB 50 kill spawn campers.
I love seeing the 30 sec pause between their death and a rant appearing on channel 200 when their chance for kill msg fame is ruined. You know they are just stewing.
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Lute, I know how to fight just fine, and in more than just bombers or GVs. Dogfighting is not my strong suit, also I much prefer GVing, which many of you so-called pilots look down upon. Perhaps you need to learn how to read rather than just jump to assumptions. My initial posting mentioned no problems in terms of fighting, but in how the game operates, my dissatisfaction with said operation and the fact I pay for it.
Im no TTer either, I had got most of my tank kills either defending my bases or attacking some1 elses.
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to many big words for me :rolleyes: i need help...i think i need to poop now:mad:
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Originally posted by Oldman731
...and I still enjoy this game to pieces.
:lol
Well worded Oldie hehe.
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Finally we got rid of you.Now we can enjoy the game in peace/oldrolleyes/
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Originally posted by duh
Finally we got rid of you.Now we can enjoy the game in peace/oldrolleyes/
Maybe these letters will have meaning for you. G.F.Y.
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IN reply to your "adios", "Adios" back atcha!
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"Well.......bye."
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I've quit like 5 times since '99....("#$##%^^ stupid game...... gonna spend more time doin stuff around house, climb Mt. Everest...fix the steering on the riding mower...EXCERcise...spend more time with..umm..whatever her name is...") Then after like 2 weeks I can't remember why I got mad at game;
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good luck olds
hope you find yourself and your love for the game again
Bruv
~S~
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AAOlds, you are a gentleman. Don't sweat the cheap comments by other people/kids on the forum. Some player recently uploaded their picture on the forum. He was a high school aged kid with his buds
We think we are all older guys on here. There are alot of high school aged players (or younger) and based on the response in this room, you can tell exactly who they are.
One day, we middle aged guys will wake up an realize we are playing a kids game.
AAolds.
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Originally posted by AAolds
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olds ill miss shooting you down, :cry
~VansCrew~
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
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"Well.......bye."
:rofl :rofl
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When I talk about people taking the game too seriously, this is exactly what I mean.
Lighten up Francis.
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Originally posted by BBBB
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LMFAO!!!!! :rofl
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Originally posted by Oldman731
This is a very wise post.
And take heart, I often fly multiple sorties without getting a kill, and I still enjoy this game to pieces.
- oldman
Thats because you suck.:lol :aok :p
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Originally posted by Its_a_game
AAOlds, you are a gentleman. Don't sweat the cheap comments by other people/kids on the forum.
One day, we middle aged guys will wake up an realize we are playing a kids game.
AAolds.
...Says the shades account.
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Why does everyone say hes a shade I remember a guy that had the same name that played AH about 3 or 4 years ago.
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Dude,
Right there with you.
When I first started playing there were a lot of mysteries to solve. E retention, ballsistics, setup tweeks, maintenance protocols, damage models, etc.
Learning and aclimating to the depth of the game.
After a while I got it figured out and started to understand why I got killed and how to avoid it. Then an understanding of how to earn kills and become a more reliable and effective teammate.
Bought some new gear, modified my setup to be more AH friendly, probably a bit too AH friendly. Got used to my time on AH with the good people that share the skys.
Now I feel like I'm at square one. The games performance has changed and not in a positive manner. I don't have the time in to remember all the other growing pains the vet's lived through and I try to be patient but the elements of play that make this game so fascinating, the ablility to capitalize on various strengths/weaknesses, the competition between players, the flow of combat where you can test you abilities against others is rapidly evaporating.
I've been involved in user groups that contribute to the development of software before and this feels the same. But usually the developers progress toward a more effective app. not just a prettier screen.
I'm still waiting to see AH take that initiative.
I don't disparage La's , spawn campers, dead eye dick gunners, toolshedders, ch200 loudmouths or even HO'ers. It's a game. And a pretty cool one at that.
I just want to pull the trigger and hit or miss depending on how well I aim, not whether or not my opponant is on dial-up. I know some issues can't be helped, but when a program's performance devolves over time instead of improves one has to decide if the value remains.
I find myself playing a lot less than on previous versions. One or two sorties is enough now when I could (and have) been logged on for 10 hrs. or better at a sitting. ie; substantially less "bang" for the buck. Pardon the pun.
I'll try to be patient, which my parole officer said was my strong suit (which were his last words now that I think of it) and keep on hoping for a change in direction development-wise.
Or maybe I'll just become a real badass on this cool solitaire game I found on my comp the other day. Man these guys think of EVERYTHING.
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Originally posted by Larry
Why does everyone say hes a shade I remember a guy that had the same name that played AH about 3 or 4 years ago.
I don't, and he has but a handful of posts since Feb?
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well at least he was civil about it all:rolleyes: I give credit where credit is due though, HT responds well to people threatening to leave if he doesn't make changes...........the future looks bright.
again, why people feel the need to let everyone else know how much they dislike the game when they could just email HT and take their money elseware i will never know. If you wanted to discuss how certain changes might be better for the game, this was not even close to the right way to approach it.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
I don't, and he has but a handful of posts since Feb?
Because some people don't live on the BBS like us. :D
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Originally posted by pluck
well at least he was civil about it all:rolleyes: I give credit where credit is due though, HT responds well to people threatening to leave if he doesn't make changes...........the future looks bright.
again, why people feel the need to let everyone else know how much they dislike the game when they could just email HT and take their money elseware i will never know. If you wanted to discuss how certain changes might be better for the game, this was not even close to the right way to approach it.
If I ever leave the game (doubt it), I wouldn't make a post. I'd make a huge Candy Mountain mishun and leave it at that.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
If I ever leave the game (doubt it), I wouldn't make a post. I'd make a huge Candy Mountain mishun and leave it at that.
lol
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Originally posted by pluck
well at least he was civil about it all:rolleyes: I give credit where credit is due though, HT responds well to people threatening to leave if he doesn't make changes...........the future looks bright.
again, why people feel the need to let everyone else know how much they dislike the game when they could just email HT and take their money elseware i will never know. If you wanted to discuss how certain changes might be better for the game, this was not even close to the right way to approach it.
I don't think HTC is going to make changes just becuase one person is leaving. They have thousands of subscribers one isnt going to hurt them.
Most of the things olds said have been here for years get over to it or get outa the game. I'd like to see you try to find a better game the AH for only $15/mo
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Originally posted by Larry
I'd like to see you try to find a better game the AH for only $15/mo
Can't be done.
Bronk
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Originally posted by AAolds
Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models, and the same GD squealing maps all the time. Im gonna take a break and see if I still want to pay/play anymore after this tour.
My hats off to those who were my allies and friends.
See ya around.
What is interesting to me is that, of the 5 gripes listed . . .
. . . the first two are necessary for some semblance of fair gameplay . . .
. . . the next shows the poster's misunderstanding of how the game works . . .
. . . the fourth is a pure whine with no facts to back it up . . .
. . . leaving only one, semi-legitimate complaint, but one that is hardly worth quitting over.
Bottom line, looks like you're having difficulties due to a combination of ignorance and poor attitude.
Improve your knowledge level (i.e. understand why things like ENY and uncapturable bases are necessary, how the collision model really works), and it just might help with the attitude problem. When the attitude improves, the minor annoyances are more easily put into their proper (insignificant) perspective. Ergo, you will have more fun, and will stay in the game.
Or, you can continue to be frustrated by things that will not and should not change, and just leave.
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Just take a few days off, and you'll feel better.
I used to play everyday, as much and as often as i could. After a while i found out what everyone meant by "burning out". I would get aggravated at the stupidest little things and rant on 200 like an idiot.
The weather is getting nice, so go out and enjoy yourself.
I had fun last night with that massive rook gv offensive we had, taking base after base after base.
Always remember it's just a game.
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Originally posted by AAolds
Maybe these letters will have meaning for you. G.F.Y.
The door must be miles away to take this long to leave..whew :D
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Hes not ganna leave just trying to get noticed.:D
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Originally posted by AAolds
Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models, and the same GD squealing maps all the time. Im gonna take a break and see if I still want to pay/play anymore after this tour.
My hats off to those who were my allies and friends.
See ya around.
You need to quit. I see your text on rook channel often. You are usually pissing and moaning about how we need to take that base, defend this base, bomb this ord, kill those FH's, etc. When I fly rook, I usually end up squelching you w/in a few minutes of upping. You want the whole rook mass to work towards your goals and, since the game offers so many differing goals, many people on rook aren't interested in having a General filling their text buffer w/ whines and demands. You should have been forming missions and giving these types of commands on a mission channel and not country wide.
You take the whole "win the war" thing much too seriously and don't seem to enjoy yourself very much.
Good Bye.
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I was seriously thinking of leaving, but after talkin with AApache and others, I changed my mind. To those who hate me or want me to go away..... I must have made an impact on you to get such a reaction, means im doing my job well. I know im not alone in my initial complaints about the game set up. Seems to me that ENY and Uncapturable bases were made to appease whiners from before I started l playing, which was this past september FYI. For only being on here for a limited amount of time compared to others, I've already made my mark well.
to all, even the jerk replies.
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Originally posted by AAolds
means im doing my job well.
I'm morbidly curious. What do you see your "job" as here in AHII?
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Olds, you and I have diff. views on what being "just fine" in a fighter means.
Getting ONE kill every THREE times you up is not "just fine", hence my telling you how you can learn to do better.
A side effect of doing so is really, REALLY enjoy this game a heck of alot more. I remember what it's like getting killed like that. (granted, it's been over a decade, but I can still remember that month or so of dying before my squad trained me)
So i've seen the game from your side of the equasion. I hope that some year you are able to see it from mine.
(I knew this was a waste of time thread when I 1st saw it. BUT I thought i'd give a go at trying to help someone out. My mistake. This was a "pay attention to me" thread from someone needing attention as opposed to someone who was really wanting help.)
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Lute, you come off as condescending and have done such more than once. Understand something about why I play AHII at all. I LOVE tanks. I dig em. I like online combat in large numbers. AHII offers both. I am learning how to fly better thanks to my squad, but please keep in mind that I am just not overly interested in becoming the best dogfighter at this time, mainly I like to hunt bombers and GVs when I am flying. Not everyone who plays has the same strong suits or interests. (I fly and tank with a mouse)
My style of play does not have to live up to what you or anyone else wants. I like everyone else pays my $15 and we all play any dang way we want too. I admit I get heated on 200 and take the game too seriously sometimes as do many other players too. I try to keep in mind that this is a game and I quickly return to what is fun for me, blasting aircraft on the runway! :p
Time changes all things, perhaps in time I'll focus on dogfighting as I do with tanks and bombing things, but until then.....
Also in case you have read comprehension issues, I was not asking for help. I had something to say, you all had comments, some good, some not.
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So Lute offered to help you and you decide he's condescending?
Brilliant! You're an asset to the game.
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Originally posted by WMLute
... This was a "pay attention to me" thread from an attention potato as opposed to someone who was really wanting help.
Despite the warps and jumps, guns that fire only boiled peas when the enemy can kill you with one ping, enemy aircraft magically appearing out of clear sky less then 3k away and heading straight for you, and a host of other annoyances for us dial-up users, the only thing that makes me really want to quite is when I see someone with “Aces High CM Staff” under their name calling another member an “attention potato.”
I wonder why HT has such contempt for the community.
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Ah, Olds is alright, just frustrated. I'm sure there is some psychological curve that equates to the game. As a matter of fact, some bright psych major could probably do a heck of a thesis paper on the community.
Olds, you are at the "castrati" stage of the game, you'll keep climbing the ladder.
No offense meant, either.
Good Luck
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Originally posted by MachNix
Despite the warps and jumps, guns that fire only boiled peas when the enemy can kill you with one ping, enemy aircraft magically appearing out of clear sky less then 3k away and heading straight for you, and a host of other annoyances for us dial-up users, the only thing that makes me really want to quite is when I see someone with “Aces High CM Staff” under their name calling another member an “attention potato.”
I wonder why HT has such contempt for the community.
Call 'em like I see 'em. Here, lemme go edit it.
There... ya' happy now?
And FYI there is nothing wrong with calling an obvious attention potato what they are. Granted, I ALMOST re-worded it in my original post 'cause I do try so hard to not cross the line here, so my apolgies if anyone was offended by my outing of an obvious Atten.... errrr.... "someone needing attention".
And just 'cause I'm a CM doesn't mean I can't give my opinion.
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I can't be a ssed to read this all .
Take a nice break and come back and have some more fun . To much of a good thing is NOT FUN OR GOOD FOR ANYONE >
cu
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Originally posted by AAolds
Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, , and the same maps all the time.
i agree, is not fun anymore
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He posted looking for pitty from fellow AHers.
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Sorry.
Do not play this game in the MA with a dial up.
It is not worth your pain and suffering,the loss of 15 bucks.
and having 8/12+ guys wounder why this "enemy" plane is warping all over the place.
Goto the h2h and you will have fun.
You just cant have that many objects to track and such,odd stuff will start happening.
I was using ah1 on dial up..bad bad.
then again i was on a indian reservation where the dial up was like 1/2 of even 4.5k "shivers"
Dont do it.
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dial up is fine..i played for many years on it..
whats not fien is..thsi
FLYING WITH A MOUSE!!!!!!!!!!
no wonder you suck and or hate flying fiters..
GET A STICK
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Tinman, I have a great squad that is teaching me about flying. They also accept me as TANKER 1st and arent trying to change my style or belittle it. My style of play will progress over time and experience.
I love the pic with kitty n the dar dish, poor thing.:rofl
FYI, I plan to get a joystick in time, but my money does not grow on a tree. I think I do pretty well with a mouse.
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Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
Sorry.
Do not play this game in the MA with a dial up.
It is not worth your pain and suffering,the loss of 15 bucks.
and having 8/12+ guys wounder why this "enemy" plane is warping all over the place.
Goto the h2h and you will have fun.
You just cant have that many objects to track and such,odd stuff will start happening.
I was using ah1 on dial up..bad bad.
then again i was on a indian reservation where the dial up was like 1/2 of even 4.5k "shivers"
Dont do it.
Ive been playing this game since' 99 on dialup---with 200ish ping, runs fine, provided it's steady
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Originally posted by AAolds
Lute, you come off as condescending and have done such more than once. Understand something about why I play AHII at all. I LOVE tanks. I dig em. I like online combat in large numbers. AHII offers both. I am learning how to fly better thanks to my squad, but please keep in mind that I am just not overly interested in becoming the best dogfighter at this time, mainly I like to hunt bombers and GVs when I am flying. Not everyone who plays has the same strong suits or interests. (I fly and tank with a mouse)
My style of play does not have to live up to what you or anyone else wants. I like everyone else pays my $15 and we all play any dang way we want too. I admit I get heated on 200 and take the game too seriously sometimes as do many other players too. I try to keep in mind that this is a game and I quickly return to what is fun for me, blasting aircraft on the runway! :p
Time changes all things, perhaps in time I'll focus on dogfighting as I do with tanks and bombing things, but until then.....
Also in case you have read comprehension issues, I was not asking for help. I had something to say, you all had comments, some good, some not.
WMLute is one of the pillars of this community AAolds. He's "old school", he (like myself) isn't impressed when someone lands 100 kills in a Tiger, etc. He is NOT condesending, he is a great guy who I have grown to laugh at at 200 as Knight. His squad came over to Rooks for a few months and I winged with these guys (JGIII/26) every chance I got. They are a riot to fly with and be bait for.
You have always had some sort of chip on your shoulder ever since you started AAolds. I never made fun of you, I only acted in reaction when we've gone at it. You need to just simmer down, relax, take a break and think about what you can do to be nicer to people.
Now olds, you and I have had enough to say to each other, but I'll leave you with this simple sentence. If you DIDN'T want Lute replying the way he did, you should never have posted.
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Originally posted by pluck
again, why people feel the need to let everyone else know how much they dislike the game when they could just email HT and take their money elseware i will never know.
How gallant of you to condescend sufficiently low as to insinuate yourself into this thread merely to toss a bit of straw into a fire. What -I- find perplexing is why folks like yourself somehow put on a "Forum Sherrif" badge and try to legislate to the rest of us just what is and what is not "proper" to post in a public forum.
Oddball
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Originally posted by AAolds
Tinman, I have a great squad that is teaching me about flying. They also accept me as TANKER 1st and arent trying to change my style or belittle it. My style of play will progress over time and experience.
I know your squad, in fact I trained your C.O. untill he got too big for his britches. I'm gald they accept you, I hear they accept anyone and yes, you are a tanker but I'm suprised you know Cockney Rhyming Slang.
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Masherbrum,
I think some of the posters are not really readin what Ive had to say all along. I have not downed on anyone elses style of play. My first post made no complaint relating to tactics at all, but was focused on technical aspects, things I have no influence over other than to voice my like or dislike. The other posts from myself and others have veered into something else entirely. I do have a chip on my shoulder, many good fighters do. You can find plenty that I've winged up with that can attest to my not being such a bad guy as just as you can find those who think im the devil. I can't control others and would not waste the energy to do such if I could. Lute can reply however he so chooses. My responses were honest and natural.
Tinman, whether you did or did not train my CO is of no concern to me. There are two at least sides to every story if more than 1 person involved. Yes AA's will give most anyone a chance, why not, diamonds don't show up all polished and ready to go. Fun is the bottomline with the AA squad.
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Originally posted by VansCrew1
olds ill miss shooting you down, :cry
~VansCrew~
Talking thing again!:furious
AAolds, chill dude, theres always american idol, survivor, aprentice or anything on the chick movie channel, im sure you'll find plenty to do.:aok
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Originally posted by yanksfan
Talking thing again!:furious
AAolds, chill dude, theres always american idol, survivor, aprentice or anything on the chick movie channel, im sure you'll find plenty to do.:aok
Dude, please read more, you've missed so much.
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Originally posted by AAolds
Dude, please read more, you've missed so much.
Just bustin on ya olds, no harm ment, i know the feeling well. "S",:aok
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Originally posted by AAolds
I must have made an impact on you to get such a reaction, means im doing my job well.
Im surprised noone has put a pic up of Donald Trump saying, "You're Fired." Anyone want to indulge :)
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Originally posted by OddCAF
How gallant of you to condescend sufficiently low as to insinuate yourself into this thread merely to toss a bit of straw into a fire. What -I- find perplexing is why folks like yourself somehow put on a "Forum Sherrif" badge and try to legislate to the rest of us just what is and what is not "proper" to post in a public forum.
Oddball
while appreciate you coming to defense of a friend, i was merely pointing out that i don't understand what the poster hopes to accomplish with this thread. from the opening it sounds as though he is threatening to quit because the game isn't the way he think it should be. while i see nothing wrong with this opinion, trying to come to the bbs and posting this way, seems to send the wrong the message. Is he trying to persuade others to join is cause and revolt against HT? Maybe thinking if he makes a big stink on the BB that HT will think it's bad for buisness and make the changes requested? I don't know what the intent is, but when you post in certain ways it leads to little discussion and mostly name calling.....hence one would think that there is a better way present an idea with out resorting to threats.
That said, maybe i have it all wrong. Maybe he was just having a bad night. I don't know, I don't really care, i just didn't see how it leads to discussion. It just leads to name calling.... your right though, i should just have walked by this one.
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I understand how you feel Olds. Hard to understand how making you fly TBMs and SBDs against Tiffys and Nikis makes the game fair. But it is HTC's game and they can do whatever they want.
I'm pre-paid so I will be hanging on for a while anyway. But I wish you well and enjoyed the times we flew together.
take care
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Originally posted by BBBB
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Originally posted by badhorse
I understand how you feel Olds. Hard to understand how making you fly TBMs and SBDs against Tiffys and Nikis makes the game fair. But it is HTC's game and they can do whatever they want.
This is a game first and foremost. Games are suppose to be fair.
So when horde monkeys have better odds they get high eny AC.
So whats a more fair fight for your average player?
3 LA7 vs 1 spit XVI
or
3 P47d11 vs 1 spit XVI
Your average MA player stands a better chance against the second scenario.
So if you don't like eny you have some choices.
1. jump to the low number side.
2. change arena
3. fly high eny ac
4. go to the bbs and whine
Sadly you and aaolds have chosen 4.
Bronk
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He's on his heels. Put him away.
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The eny system is excellent! :)
I just wish it was implemented in real life so bar fights would be more fair!
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl I get pissed and quit everyday. And the only time I see you on is in unpopulated arenas sneaking undefended bases. Maybe you can drive a milk truck in your spare time now. Good luck in your new career:cry
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Originally posted by Bronk
This is a game first and foremost. Games are suppose to be fair.
I respectfully disagree with you. Games may start out fair but then change. Ever get your butt kicked at Chess? Every play football? Your opponent isn't going to give your Queen back because it wouldn't be fair that he has one and you don't. Get 3 touchdowns ahead and the rules don't change limiting you to fieldgoals only.
It all balances out. One arena may have more rooks but another may have more bishops. Another more knights.
Olds was just saying something that many of us feel. ENY does not ensure "fairness".
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Originally posted by badhorse
I respectfully disagree with you. Games may start out fair but then change. Ever get your butt kicked at Chess? Every play football? Your opponent isn't going to give your Queen back because it wouldn't be fair that he has one and you don't. Get 3 touchdowns ahead and the rules don't change limiting you to fieldgoals only.
It all balances out. One arena may have more rooks but another may have more bishops. Another more knights.
Olds was just saying something that many of us feel. ENY does not ensure "fairness".
:lol This is such a poorly thought out piece of text that I don't know where to begin.
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Originally posted by Bronk
This is a game first and foremost. Games are suppose to be fair.
So when horde monkeys have better odds they get high eny AC.
So whats a more fair fight for your average player?
3 LA7 vs 1 spit XVI
or
3 P47d11 vs 1 spit XVI
Your average MA player stands a better chance against the second scenario.
So if you don't like eny you have some choices.
1. jump to the low number side.
2. change arena
3. fly high eny ac
4. go to the bbs and whine
Sadly you and aaolds have chosen 4.
Bronk
Bronk your good dude,
but with the arens split, every arena every night has one side or another outnumbered, thus eny kicks in, its not a horde thing its an eny thing, some switch some don't, most don't cause they fly with their friends, some get very frustrated and vent in here, thats ok, thats what venting is all about.
I don't think eny is the answer, those claiming to look for a fair fight, well, those are hard to come by when eny kicks in, your either outnumberd or your racking up kills on tbm's, not much fun either way.
if they wanna balance sides, they need a better incentive then eny, but i do understand AAOLDS frustration, he's not quiting, just venting.
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
:lol This is such a poorly thought out piece of text that I don't know where to begin.
Seem pretty clear thoughtful and polite to me.
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Originally posted by AAolds
Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models, and the same GD squealing maps all the time. Im gonna take a break and see if I still want to pay/play anymore after this tour.
My hats off to those who were my allies and friends.
See ya around.
AAolds, if you're REALLY leaving can i have your stuff? I've REALLY been coveting that new self-inflating sheep you got... just asking, no pressure...
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Originally posted by badhorse
I respectfully disagree with you. Games may start out fair but then change. Ever get your butt kicked at Chess? Every play football? Your opponent isn't going to give your Queen back because it wouldn't be fair that he has one and you don't. Get 3 touchdowns ahead and the rules don't change limiting you to fieldgoals only.
It all balances out. One arena may have more rooks but another may have more bishops. Another more knights.
Olds was just saying something that many of us feel. ENY does not ensure "fairness".
Chess, you don't get 3 queens to the other guys 1.
Football, you don't play with uneven sides.
Rules don't change in AH.
You want to play horde monkey, no problem you fly high eny AC.
I know it's been that way since I started playing in Dec '04.
Thats the RULE.
What you want is a rule change, that isn't happening.
Bronk
EDIT: IF people are coming to the boards to whine about it......
ENY is working.:D
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AAolds = Storch when I tried to add him to my ignore list. Why do other people get all the good bugs?
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AAolds, glad you're satisfied for the time being... I understand your frustration at things that are done or in some cases overdone in this game. The best thing is to remember it is just a game and as such there are other choices, including hanging it up for awhile. Never allow things that go on in the virtual world spill over into and spoil the fun of the the real one you have to live in every day!
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Originally posted by SteveBailey
:lol This is such a poorly thought out piece of text that I don't know where to begin.
Thankfully for us, you did however know where to end; which was, by the way, immediately after cobbling together a single sentence. Surely mister Bailey you are capable of better than that.
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Originally posted by kamilyun
1/10
Simple, concise delivery initially gave you high marks. However, any professional quitter will tell you that returning 'in a limited capacity' are words that have absolutely no place in a quitting post. It simply carries no weight, and quite frankly makes you sound like a whiner who had a bad night and posted while under the influence.
When you eventually quit from your limited capacity return, I suggest you use the search function to research the form and content of a proper departure message.
You are peronsaly attacking AAOLDs for his post. hmmmmm This is wierd.
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A quick recap for those who may have been attending to the various necessities of a real life:
1. "Hey! Over here! Look at me! My feelings are hurt." (Note: This was not attention whoring. Saying attention potato is not nice and we will tell your mommy or cry about it).
2. 2 pages of witty insults.
3. "I'm back with my new holier than thou attitude, accept me."
I miss anything?
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Nope, that's about it.
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Originally posted by Dm6
You are peronsaly attacking AAOLDs for his post. hmmmmm This is wierd.
Um...it's called a whine. And whiners deserve to be taunted. Where do I 'peronsaly' attack him? He said he was quitting (original post...he edited it) and blamed HTC for a bunch of the usual whines.
Use the search function for: collision, ENY, uncapturable, damage model and "GD squealing maps" to see how these things are gone over again and again.
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hmmm Dm6.....Dmf I wonder....
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:lol :lol
You trained me :lol That's hilarious !!! Trained me to do what boom and zoom runways in Lgay 7's :aok That was the extent of your training for the full 10 minutes a week you would log on. I am not the one who's 89thDoom I mean Boom squad went belly up and had to go groveling back to your old squad to get his spot back.You even had to change your name to avoid embarressment of failed squad :lol Yes anyone is trainable and we give folks a chance.You seem to forget where you came from because when you started you to had to be trained.So how would you have felt if no squad gave you a shot.You odviously couldn't cut it as a CO so i guess your lucky they took you back :lol !!! Get your facts in order before you open your trap sir:t You odviously have a problem with my squad still being up and running and actually growing as yours took a nose dive so you must regain some dignity by trying to belittle people.That's really genuine sir wtg .
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This thread is INauspicious.
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Originally posted by OddCAF
Thankfully for us, you did however know where to end; which was, by the way, immediately after cobbling together a single sentence. Surely mister Bailey you are capable of better than that.
I am, but realizing that my text would be "read" by the dimly comprehending eyes fo the original poster of said drivel, I chose not to waste my time.
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you just need to hang with your squadies more. The Arch Angels bunch always seemed to be pretty nice guys and some of em can put up a fight.
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Originally posted by AApache
:lol :lol
You trained me :lol That's hilarious !!! Trained me to do what boom and zoom runways in Lgay 7's :aok
No, I said I helped train you and it was a little bit more than BnZ
That was the extent of your training for the full 10 minutes a week you would log on.
Hmmm, yes, though my wife had just given birth to our daughter who unfortunately was very poorly when she was born as she had numerous clinical birth defects, as I made the squad aware of, nice one trying to use that as a retort!
I am not the one who's 89thDoom I mean Boom squad went belly up
Actually, if I recall, you slandered me while I was away caring for my daughter and told the squad that I was flying under a shade account, giving their positions out to the enemy
and had to go groveling back to your old squad to get his spot back.
Wrong again, at least you're consitant in your errors, I asked, they accepted
You even had to change your name to avoid embarressment of failed squad
Errrr, no, I changed my name because my previous one was a squad affiliated name. You don't play for the Red Sox wearing a Yankee's shirt, do you? How many names you had so far Scorp?
Yes anyone is trainable
Yes, they are, to a degree.
and we give folks a chance.You seem to forget where you came from because when you started you to had to be trained.
Never said I didn't, in fact I have given props to those that trained me here and in other places many times, you however seem to have no such grace when it comes to remembering where you came from and who helped you get here.
So how would you have felt if no squad gave you a shot.
There's a point your trying to make here, I'm sure of it, yet I can't seem to fathom what it is.
You odviously couldn't cut it as a CO so i guess your lucky they took you back :lol !!!
No, I obviously had more important things to attend to at the time, like an ill newborn - dealing with a backstabbing half-wit was not on my list of priorities. I don't actually see why you find that funny, it's pretty sick actually.
Get your facts in order before you open your trap sir
Ditto
You odviously have a problem with my squad still being up and running and actually growing as yours took a nose dive so you must regain some dignity by trying to belittle people.That's really genuine sir wtg.
I have no problem with your squad, I do however have an obvious problem with you. You talk of dignity and yet you knew full well the reason for my absence at that time in my AH career and yet you choose to come here and use that as some sort of put down, at least my belittlement showed a modicum of decency. That you troll the TA, take new members and show them no means of ACM, etiquette or provide an example of respect or appreciation for - again - where you came from and who helped to get you where you are, is no problem for me. Have at it. It isn't me that suffers, it is them.
So, on behalf of myself and my daughter (who after 2 operations and on going medial intervention is doing very well, thank you for asking), wtg yourself!
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Well, after reading all of this, I only have one thing to say....
TinmanX, I'm glad to hear that your daughter is doing well.
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TinmanX,
You spent more time than I would have responding to the idiotic comments in this thread.
I hope things continue to be well with your daughter. The 332nd has her and your family in our thoughts and prayers.
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WoW....I didn't read it all but I must say this; I didn't get REALLY bored until a couple years into AH & the newest release has piqued my interest again. If I would just put in some time learning good ACM I'd probably get bored to death....losing is what frustrates me into coming back :rofl
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Thanks guys.
I am sorry I even brought her into this. I haven't spoken about it to anyone before but my closest friends, of which I used to consider AApache one. The fact though that he decided to use my absence during that period as some sort of detrimental thing though made me pretty mad.
Elanor is fine. Her surgeries went very well. My family and I appreciate your positive thoughts on her behalf and again my apologies for taking those idiotic comments so personally.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
The eny system is excellent! :)
I just wish it was implemented in real life so bar fights would be more fair!
:rofl I could just see that; "hold on a minute there buddy!" - "You can't clock me with that pool cue when your buddy is involved....we have an ENY that limits you to fists until he leaves!"
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Originally posted by AAolds
Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models, and the same GD squealing maps all the time. Im gonna take a break and see if I still want to pay/play anymore after this tour.
My hats off to those who were my allies and friends.
See ya around.
Without reading ever post in the thread, here's my take on this.
For me it's never the game that is messed up. It might however be me that's needing the break.
The real world throws stuff at ya that sometimes gets dragged into this unreal world of AH. I find that when I notice my frustration showing in the game, it's generally directly connected to something outside of AH that I can't let go of.
Lets face it. I think it's fair to say that many of us come in here to 'play' and being able to hop into our 22 year old, invincible fighter pilot can be a nice escape. I know that old CorkyJr sure has been a nice place to hide at times as he is just that, a 22 year old fighter pilot, with a battered flight cap and jacket, with a hip flask full of his favorite spirits, and a cigarette dangling from his lip, wandering out to his battered P38 for another run.
Sadly, Dan, the 47 year old with the job, family, mortgage, car payments etc can sometimes sneak into Corky's world, and then it isn't as much fun cause that real world stuff can get old.
When that's the case, Corky goes on leave until he's no longer suffering from battle fatigue so he can come back and enjoy the game.
So take a break, get your perspective back and remember that nothing in AH means a thing. It's just a game, and it's as fun as you make it. Oh...and no, AH isn't broken :)
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Corky
Never heard it said better. Should be mandatory reading for anyone who's ever had their blood pressure CLIMB when they play...
....and we know who we are.
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I'll miss ya Olds.
I miss pretty much everything.
/will seriously miss ya
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I quit.
I'm back.
-SR-
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I quit too.
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Whew...the shakes got the better of me. I'm back.
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BTW it was nice to watch you spew BS on channel 200 the other day I actually had a laugh...
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Originally posted by ddoug
I'll miss ya Olds.
I miss pretty much everything.
/will seriously miss ya
I wont be quitting, but it looks like I might be moving to another state soon for a new job, if such happens, ill be offline till I get things together. Thanks for your support and help in operations.
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Originally posted by AAolds
I wont be quitting, but it looks like I might be moving to another state soon for a new job, if such happens, ill be offline till I get things together. Thanks for your support and help in operations.
I'm a little fuzzy on quitting etiquette but I think coming back requires a new thread, acoompanied by an apology. You should try it, get your karma back to even.. or closer at least.
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Dr. Phil couldn't have said it better :aok
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Originally posted by AAolds
Im tired of paying money to put up with crap like uncapturable bases, ENY, flawed collision and GV damage models, and the same GD squealing maps all the time. Im gonna take a break and see if I still want to pay/play anymore after this tour.
My hats off to those who were my allies and friends.
See ya around.
Coupled with this:
Originally posted by AAolds
I wont be quitting, but it looks like I might be moving to another state soon for a new job, if such happens, ill be offline till I get things together. Thanks for your support and help in operations.
Should equal a PNG in the very least.
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Listen more and talk alittle less.No one said anyhting about your family you twit.Only problem I have is with you and to waste 15 minutes to type a book out for a sea eurchin such as yourself is not high on my priorities scale:lol . However I did find your trolling comment very entertaining considering that it is a falsehood in which you seem to believe.I find it even funnier that you want to speak of ACM's .We all seem to be doing just well and we have fun playing the game which is first in our book. Nice way to mesh your daughter into the mix to get sympathy when no one said anything about that in the first place.So carry on soldier I'm done wasting time yapping with you.
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Just to correct one thing that you said that I have always kept quiet on.I didn't mine taking the blame because I really didn't give a rats behind at the time but I am tired of you saying I slandered you when in fact it was our old comrad Z who had an intricate and extensive part in convincing Sneek,XT4 and myself that you had second account.He would use BufferX's 2nd account to watch other sides of the map.Many times when we ran missions and there would be a Flak in the bellybutton end of map in a grid out in middle of nothing to shoot down the goon.That would be the first thing he would holler.I only have one PC to use so for me to accuse anyone of anything would be absurd.Z and Buffer both had multiple PC's so therein lies your nemesis. I had no problem at that time being a scapegoat and I still don't.I will sleep well regaurdless.I only knew that Z would never own up to it so hey it's water under the bridge.So cease and desist on blaming wrong guy.Whats even funnier is that he allowed me to take all the blame while steadily kissing assola!!Keep your friends close and your enemys closer and you seem to be surrounded by them and not even know it.In no way would I speak negatively about anyone's child I am also a parent of two sons so I choose to burry that hatchet on all this foolishness or NOT it's totally up to you sir.My only regret is I should have brought all this out sooner but I didn't really give a hoot at the time.Al of them allowed me to be left holding the bag while all saying yeh he said she said .I chose to go off and start a squad because of all that negativity and foolishness.Our hatred of eachother would be genuine if it was based on truth so this pissing match is done far as I'm concerned or you can keep it going.It only makes us look stupid to continue an internet fight with the knowledge of knowing we will never be able to get our hands around the others throat in real life but hey it's good for ratings:lol and even more entertaining to the lifeless masses that may bottom feed on others post all day:aok Take care man
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Paragraphs...know 'em, use 'em, embrace 'em...my eyes hurt now :(
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LOL Zazen.
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Originally posted by AAolds
I wont be quitting...
Ahhhhhhh...the happy ending we've all been waiting for.
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:rolleyes: OK Zazen sorry your right I got a tad worked up bro:lol
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AApache STOP USING BIG WORD!!!!!!!!!!!! makes my little head hurt:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by BiPoLaR
AApache STOP USING BIG WORD!!!!!!!!!!!! makes my little head hurt:rolleyes:
:rofl
For folks who do NOT know already, Bipolar likes folks to use .50 cent words, not $5 dollar words. :) <> Bi
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This thread is Incredible.
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Sorry BiPoLaR I'll use shorthand to make a bit easier to digest;)
Copy that Mash this one has been a real ride :rofl
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Originally posted by AApache
Sorry BiPoLaR I'll use shorthand to make a bit easier to digest;)
Copy that Mash this one has been a real ride :rofl
:aok <> bro
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Mash
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Originally posted by AApache
. Nice way to mesh your daughter into the mix to get sympathy when no one said anything about that in the first place.
I know I am (very) new around here but I have thoroughly enjoyed the general geniality on this board as opposed to those supporting other games. I have learned a great deal in the weeks I have been reading on here.
That being said this last post was abhorrently classless. Those of us who have lost a child can identify with someone who is in that situation of feeling completely helpless. Whether it was part of the discussion or not it certainly was not fair game for your tasteless and unitelligent attack. If you want to bash the man that is fine, but leave his ill child out of it. That is a pathetic and reprehensible step for any man to take.
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Don't worry about it Fwembt. This guy apparently has no memory as despite using "The 10 minutes a week you would log on" as some kind of put down he then goes on to say "Nice way to mesh your daughter into the mix to get sympathy when no one said anything about that in the first place" when it was quite clear (and I made it clear both at the time and in this thread) that She was the reason I was only logging in for 10 minutes a week. Reading, as always, is optional I guess.
It's of no matter, he has shown his class or lack there-of, here and many times previous.
Please continue to enjoy the geniality of the boards. It is the seldom and incongruous few who drag the place down. Of course, there is the fantastic "ignore" feature here on the BB's that can be used also.
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Life is way to short Mel.I live here in DC and unfortunately have to be subject to murder ,bickering and arguing everyday.These last few days have really opened my eyes to just how short and precious life is.I see people fussing ,fighting and dying here in real life and realized that it has to come to a stop.I work at the Pentagon here in Arlington VA and see the memorial built for the 187 innocent lives that were taken on 9/11 everyday when I report in.
It scares me because I wonder what OUR children have to look forward to as they grow up with all that is happening in the world.We go to far back and have had many a laugh as well as many a good battle comrad.I hold no ill will toward you and I wish you the best in all you attempt in the game as well as in real life.It is not in me to argue anymore bro and all I can offer is a and a genuine appology.Whether you accpet it our not or offer me one is of no conseqeunce as long as you know mine came from the heart my job is done.I have seen and witnessed to much in life to continue fighting.
I will leave it at that and I will keep Elanor in prayers as well as mine sir:)
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you know...this is kinda like a Jerry Springer but with nice sentence structures....so that being said...i have to go poop now
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Hey he offered an apology. That's a stand up thing to do, so I
him for that even if it shouldn't have been needed in the first place, sometimes things snowball & people say things they didn't mean.
Forgive & carry on.:aok
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This thread needs to be ignored now. There is no longer any "validity" to it.