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Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: stephen on April 21, 2007, 02:08:47 AM
I have yet another in an endless line of complaints, I killed a panzer and a T-34, popped em both in the turret,and because there where alot of fighters in TT I ened up landing rather short of fuel....

I got a paultry 1.45 perks, now if youve ever flown the thing you would understand, but it aint ez to kill a tank with one, so why so little perks for killing two tanks>>>?!!!

Also a seperate line in vthe ranking system for gunning tanks would be cool... but really im not here for cool, I can bomb alot and get kills in a bomber an get 12 perks pretty regularly,,,what bothers me is that there is no way to do this killing tanks in a hurriD/IL-2...
Title: Re: HurriD tank killz
Post by: halcyon on April 21, 2007, 02:39:28 AM
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Originally posted by stephen
I have yet another in an endless line of complaints, I killed a panzer and a T-34, popped em both in the turret,and because there where alot of fighters in TT I ened up landing rather short of fuel....

I got a paultry 1.45 perks, now if youve ever flown the thing you would understand, but it aint ez to kill a tank with one, so why so little perks for killing two tanks>>>?!!!

Also a seperate line in vthe ranking system for gunning tanks would be cool... but really im not here for cool, I can bomb alot and get kills in a bomber an get 12 perks pretty regularly,,,what bothers me is that there is no way to do this killing tanks in a hurriD/IL-2...


Isn't it more satisfying knowing you took out two multi-ton steel behemoths with  plane mounted cannons?
Perk points are easy as pie to get. And even if you don't have them, there are plenty of great planes that don't require perks.

Almost 95% of the aircraft I fly are perk free.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Nilsen on April 21, 2007, 03:45:54 AM
Tanks are not hard to kill at all with the HurryD

I can get 5-10 kills without reloading if there are no competitors or aircons around to bug me.
Title: Re: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Larry on April 21, 2007, 09:14:24 AM
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Originally posted by stephen
I have yet another in an endless line of complaints, I killed a panzer and a T-34, popped em both in the turret,and because there where alot of fighters in TT I ened up landing rather short of fuel....

I got a paultry 1.45 perks, now if youve ever flown the thing you would understand, but it aint ez to kill a tank with one, so why so little perks for killing two tanks>>>?!!!

Also a seperate line in vthe ranking system for gunning tanks would be cool... but really im not here for cool, I can bomb alot and get kills in a bomber an get 12 perks pretty regularly,,,what bothers me is that there is no way to do this killing tanks in a hurriD/IL-2...




Umm since when is it hard to kill tanks with a tank killer? Set convergence to 400 and come down steep and pull triiger once thats one kill. What you might want to look at is the ENY of the HurrIID its 25. The panzer is also 25 and the T34 is 35. So from that alone you got a few more  0.?? then you should have the perk piont bonus must have been alittle over 1.0. If you dont already know this if your in something that has 25ENY and you kill something that is also 25ENY you get 1.0 perk. If yous in some thing like 20ENY and you kill something 10ENY you get 2.0 perks. That is if perk piont bonus is at 1.00
Title: Re: Re: HurriD tank killz
Post by: macleod01 on April 21, 2007, 05:29:14 PM
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Originally posted by halcyon
Isn't it more satisfying knowing you took out two multi-ton steel behemoths with  plane mounted cannons?
Perk points are easy as pie to get. And even if you don't have them, there are plenty of great planes that don't require perks.

Almost 95% of the aircraft I fly are perk free.


So true! I mean, I shot down 2 planes, a Niki and I think it was a spit plus got an assist on a 38L today in a Hurri. Mark 1! I only got I think it was 5 perks, but im not complaining because it was fun just to actually get a frikin Kill in that tincan with peashooters on it! lol.
Title: Re: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Spikes on April 22, 2007, 07:18:06 AM
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Originally posted by stephen


I got a paultry 1.45 perks,  


did you have it in attack mode?
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: AApache on April 24, 2007, 07:45:37 AM
Even in attack mode you will only gather 1.25 percs .I've learned to just accept that a gv kill means very little in the eyes of the almighty perc goddess.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Nilsen on April 24, 2007, 09:54:08 AM
the perky-bank is so full anyway that a perk more or less is hardly gonna matter :D
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Charge on April 25, 2007, 06:13:13 AM
Eh? I cannot kill anything but Osties with HurriD, no matter where I shoot e.g. Pz4s turret top, engine comp top, sides, back. No matter what I hit it does nothing. Its nice to know it is possible, though. :confused:

-C+
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Lusche on April 25, 2007, 06:40:01 AM
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Originally posted by Charge
Eh? I cannot kill anything but Osties with HurriD, no matter where I shoot e.g. Pz4s turret top, engine comp top, sides, back. No matter what I hit it does nothing. Its nice to know it is possible, though. :confused:

-C+


Aim for turret tops and dive as steep as possible. Dive at > 50 degrees, shoot at D400 and you can pop even a tigers turret.
Title: Re: HurriD tank killz
Post by: SKurj on April 25, 2007, 06:43:57 AM
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Originally posted by stephen
I have yet another in an endless line of complaints, I killed a panzer and a T-34, popped em both in the turret,and because there where alot of fighters in TT I ened up landing rather short of fuel....

I got a paultry 1.45 perks, now if youve ever flown the thing you would understand, but it aint ez to kill a tank with one, so why so little perks for killing two tanks>>>?!!!

Also a seperate line in vthe ranking system for gunning tanks would be cool... but really im not here for cool, I can bomb alot and get kills in a bomber an get 12 perks pretty regularly,,,what bothers me is that there is no way to do this killing tanks in a hurriD/IL-2...



Sooo you want perks for killing something that has virtually no defence against ya?   Even the building battlers have acks to deal with..
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: BaldEagl on April 25, 2007, 10:05:32 AM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Tanks are not hard to kill at all with the HurryD

I can get 5-10 kills without reloading if there are no competitors or aircons around to bug me.


3 rounds each?  Maybe if you smoke 'em and let someone else finish them off.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Krusty on April 25, 2007, 10:27:36 AM
On the other hand, I've hit a single panzer with 10+ 40mm hits (hit sprites every time) and still not smoked either engine or turret.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: SKurj on April 25, 2007, 10:38:32 AM
I've popped a PZ with 1 round (from each gun) in a hurriD...  was quite pleased when it happened..  

1st shot scored the kill but I didn't expect it so the next rounds were wasted.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: stephen on April 26, 2007, 04:24:05 PM
Last time I checked there was only one vehicle without a gun on top

Sooo you want perks for killing something that has virtually no defence against ya? Even the building battlers have acks to deal with..
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: SKurj on April 26, 2007, 05:03:21 PM
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Originally posted by stephen
Last time I checked there was only one vehicle without a gun on top

Sooo you want perks for killing something that has virtually no defence against ya? Even the building battlers have acks to deal with..


How many planes you killed with a pintle gun? I've got alotta yrs in AH and I be lucky to have shot down a handful with a pintle
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: WMDnow on April 26, 2007, 05:17:22 PM
39 with a jeep so far...
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: WMDnow on April 26, 2007, 05:18:09 PM
WOO 100th post.
Title: Imnotcopyingyourpost
Post by: stephen on April 27, 2007, 04:08:49 PM
Fine.. yes its true, im a no skill dweeb, whom revels in blasting little duckys out of the pond with my giant gun, because they are so perfectly helpless,and.blah,blah,blah,that's are darn lie...

dude look, its ez to kill alot of things in this game, now does that mean we shouldnt do it?-----.No.
Tanking is like flying, it takes time to learn how to make the bad airplanes miss, in FACT  any G.V.'r should be happy im only using a Hurri, because there are alot more effective/EZ ways to blow up tanks, namely BOMBS... so please dont run that same dead argument at me again.

P.S.(Yeah, and ive knocked out ALOT of hurricanes engines out with the Panzers pintle:D

Oh yeh, and thx to the guys that gave pertinent {<-?} information on how perks are award'd
Title: Re: Imnotcopyingyourpost
Post by: Larry on April 27, 2007, 05:00:31 PM
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Originally posted by stephen
Fine.. yes its true, im a no skill dweeb, whom revels in blasting little duckys out of the pond with my giant gun, because they are so perfectly helpless,and.blah,blah,blah,that's are darn lie...

dude look, its ez to kill alot of things in this game, now does that mean we shouldnt do it?-----.No.
Tanking is like flying, it takes time to learn how to make the bad airplanes miss, in FACT  any G.V.'r should be happy im only using a Hurri, because there are alot more effective/EZ ways to blow up tanks, namely BOMBS... so please dont run that same dead argument at me again.

P.S.(Yeah, and ive knocked out ALOT of hurricanes engines out with the Panzers pintle:D

Oh yeh, and thx to the guys that gave pertinent {<-?} information on how perks are award'd


110 with two big bombs and 4 littles get you about 4 kills then you go looking for jeeps,M3s and M8s. Score in attack and kill any fighters that come your way. When I do this in TT I land 6-8 kills most of the time.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: BaldEagl on April 27, 2007, 05:19:13 PM
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Originally posted by SKurj
How many planes you killed with a pintle gun? I've got alotta yrs in AH and I be lucky to have shot down a handful with a pintle


A lot but most have come as delayed kills after I either smoked them or gave them a pilot wound.  I always aim for the cockpit.
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: devild0g on April 28, 2007, 10:16:43 AM
Yeah rofl they usually bail... and how many noobs have u killed who try 2 land in TT??? I have popped lots but it was wierd i expected a literal pop not a zap wing falls off.... another rounds pop the other wing off.... wtf is this last round hits cockpit dead roflmao i thought that didnt make any sense since i was using he rounds they shoulda lit that dam things fuel up
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: 68slayr on April 28, 2007, 11:08:10 AM
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So true! I mean, I shot down 2 planes, a Niki and I think it was a spit plus got an assist on a 38L today in a Hurri. Mark 1! I only got I think it was 5 perks, but im not complaining because it was fun just to actually get a frikin Kill in that tincan with peashooters on it! lol.


with that was it a spit16....i will assume that.....you should have got 12 perks.....what was perk multiplyer?  .50?
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Tony Williams on April 28, 2007, 09:45:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lusche
Aim for turret tops and dive as steep as possible. Dive at > 50 degrees, shoot at D400 and you can pop even a tigers turret.

As a matter of interest, Hurri IIDs historically attacked in a low-level run.

The problem with a steep dive in RL is that you have to stop firing and pull out of the dive at quite some height above the tank if you're going to avoid crashing into it. A low-level attack means that you can keep firing until you've almost flown into it.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website (http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk) and discussion forum (http://forums.delphiforums.com/autogun/messages/)
Title: HurriD tank killz
Post by: Lusche on April 29, 2007, 06:46:16 AM
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Originally posted by Tony Williams
As a matter of interest, Hurri IIDs historically attacked in a low-level run.

The problem with a steep dive in RL is that you have to stop firing and pull out of the dive at quite some height above the tank if you're going to avoid crashing into it.


Actually it is a problem not only in RL ;)

Although I did know about that real-life tactic, I abandoned this "realistic" tactic (the same I used with the IL2), because I could only score kills vs. Panzer IV and light armored vehicles this way.
However, most people do use the Sherman Firefly now, which has it's rear hull armored almost twice a thick.
To stop it with a Hurri IVD or a Il-2 cannon attack, a diving attack is almost mandatory.
Title: Re: HurriD tank killz
Post by: bozon on April 29, 2007, 10:20:05 AM
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Originally posted by stephen
I got a paultry 1.45 perks...

Have you got anything to spend your perks on?