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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: crockett on April 21, 2007, 02:37:18 AM
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It's beyond ridiculous now with the spawn camping at TT especially at V23..
This is a 2 minute video I made where I'm killed something like 5 times in a row. The game isn't even fun anymore to GV.
http://www.strafing.com/temp/tt-useless.ahf
To make it worse, the spawn from V23 is the worst spawn because it has the least cover and is under immediate fire from both V2 and V44. Meanwhile V2 nor V44 is under direct fire from each other.
V2 Has direct fire from spawn V23 but dose not take any fire at all from V44.
V44 has direct fire from v23 but has no direct fire from V2.
Rooks have been suck at V23 for the last week in LWBlue if not longer it's beyond old and tiring. The arena needs a manual reset and someone else needs to get stuck with the crap V23 spawn.
V23 is at an unfair disadvantage because it's constantly taking fire from both spawns. If you try to do a quick engage of campers from one spawn you get hit from the other spawn or vice versa.
It's beyond lame and annoying at this point. Please either manually reset the map so Rooks get a different spawn and one of the other teams get the crap spawn.. Or change the map.
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Lol Man at lest you didn't up a tiger 5 times like me trying to break up the spawn campers died about the same rate you did…
I would up more but the hangers went down.... guess it saved me the gv perks huh. But seriously though V23 spawn in TT is jacked up, may I suggest more wind mills to the V23 spawn.:D
I do agree that Reset in LWBlue is long overdue….
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Spawn points at TT need to be moved back alot, up to ~5k from each other.
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Í say Let rooks always have the 23 side:D
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Drive from VH.
It takes 5 minutes, but when you get to TT from an angle the campers cant see from their gunsight you will pwn them so hard that they whine for 20 mins on 200 and then up buffs to "kill your cheating ass".
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up a 110 and shoot the spawn campers :aok
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Drive from VH.
It takes 5 minutes, but when you get to TT from an angle the campers cant see from their gunsight you will pwn them so hard that they whine for 20 mins on 200 and then up buffs to "kill your cheating ass".
:lol
:aok
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Drive from VH.
It takes 5 minutes, but when you get to TT from an angle the campers cant see from their gunsight you will pwn them so hard that they whine for 20 mins on 200 and then up buffs to "kill your cheating ass".
That kind of misses the entire point of TT. If I want to drive 5 or 10 min I'll go attack a airfield.
As a side note I have switched to both teams to test the spawns and it's 23 that is at the biggest disadvantage. I tried the V2 spawn the on Thursday and I tried the 44 spawn last night b4 I went to bed.
Both spawns I had no issues at all of getting into the town, in fact of all the tries I only died once going to TT town and that was on the v2 spawn.
Yet upping at V23 is less than 50% chance that you make it into the town. It's way beyond a unfair advantage for the other two teams.
BTW even if we did drive from the hanger @ v23 it still leaves us at a unfair disadvantage because if we get killed it takes us another 5 to 10 mins to get back into position from v23. Yet if we kill players at v44 or v2 tt spawns, they can instantly re spawn at their location. So we would need to have twice the amount of players if not more to control both spawns.
So it's beyond lame at this point and I'm to the pint that if I feel like GVing and the spawn is camping I'm just going to up bombers and kill the other two teams VH's. It's just come to the point I don't care and if I can get other players willing I'll go cap one of the other two TT Vbases so we can have a fair chance getting into the town.
That's another issue is if you do happen to get into the TT from v23 you are there until you die or run out of ammo because if you do get in you can't get out. Unlike both V2 and V44 which stand a very reasonable chance of getting out.
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Originally posted by megadud
up a 110 and shoot the spawn campers :aok
That is a full time job.. I've upped an A20 on more than one occasion to try and rid the area of spawn campers. It's as they call "whack a mole" because the other two teams don't have to travel anywhere to have V23 spawn camped. And they have no real threat from the other team unless they were dumb and let someone get behind them.
Much less you can't carry enough bombs even on a A20 for all the spawn campers or stay alive long enough with fighters in the air ready to swarm a easy target.
The answer is simple.. I'm just going to start bombing VH's on TT until the issue is fixed.
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
Í say Let rooks always have the 23 side:D
We say you aren't as good as you claim to be.
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
We say you aren't as good as you claim to be.
I'll agree because he was one of the spawn campers whom killed me a few times yesterday.
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V23 has always had poor cover on the spawn, by the way my two of those guys were squadmates. :rofl But in the words of Bill Clinton "I feel your pain" But thanks for the great video. :rofl
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
Í say Let rooks always have the 23 side:D
agrees. :aok :aok
~VansCrew~
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From crockett's film.... Clearly, this bug needs fixing as players will exploit it just as this guy is.
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/Bug-Exploit.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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Dam I thought Windmills were neutral.Now they are arming themselves?Here I thought they live in peaceful co-existance with the rest of the terrain.Toiling about doing theyre windmill stuff.Death to the armed windmill faction!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pipz
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:rofl :rofl first please i look not to bomb in TT it the windmills,if i get someone they have atleast 20kills or more,i bomed someone lastnight with 45kills... :aok
~VansCrew~
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Damn Rooks
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Originally posted by crockett
That kind of misses the entire point of TT. If I want to drive 5 or 10 min I'll go attack a airfield.
so in other words you want to spawn straight into battle where you have the shot but the others dont?......
..... well wait for your country to have a different spawn :p
GV war doesnt suck, its great. TT isnt the GV war.
edit: on the video..... my video "ends" when you get killed, even though it shows 2minutes long its only about 21seconds... anyone else having this problem?
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Originally posted by crockett
That is a full time job.. I've upped an A20 on more than one occasion to try and rid the area of spawn campers.
Much less you can't carry enough bombs even on a A20 for all the spawn campers or stay alive long enough with fighters in the air ready to swarm a easy target.
Use lancs. 14*1000lbs, from 10k or higher. :D
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Originally posted by Widewing
From crockett's film.... Clearly, this bug needs fixing as players will exploit it just as this guy is.
My regards,
Widewing
Good catch antother useless cheater..
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Originally posted by Lusche
Use lancs. 14*1000lbs, from 10k or higher. :D
Oh I did this moorning.. I tried upping 5 times and was killed 5 times in a row before I could even get remotely close to the TT town.
So I upped a Lancaster and shut down both Bish and Nits TT v bases by myself. Was funny to see people *****ing about me ruining their fun.. :rofl
I promptly landed (got two kills as well) then upped my Sherman and went to my hiding spot in town just in time for the nits V base to pop. Then I started popping away at them. :D
If that's what I have to do too get past the spawn campers, then that's what I'll keep doing.
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Originally posted by Anyone
so in other words you want to spawn straight into battle where you have the shot but the others dont?......
..... well wait for your country to have a different spawn :p
GV war doesnt suck, its great. TT isnt the GV war.
edit: on the video..... my video "ends" when you get killed, even though it shows 2minutes long its only about 21seconds... anyone else having this problem?
On that map it's the only place to find a GV fight 90% of the time..
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Originally posted by crockett
Oh I did this moorning.. I tried upping 5 times and was killed 5 times in a row before I could even get remotely close to the TT town.
So I upped a Lancaster and shut down both Bish and Nits TT v bases by myself. Was funny to see people *****ing about me ruining their fun.. :rofl
I promptly landed (got two kills as well) then upped my Sherman and went to my hiding spot in town just in time for the nits V base to pop. Then I started popping away at them. :D
If that's what I have to do too get past the spawn campers, then that's what I'll keep doing.
Errr... I didnt talk about shutting down Vbases... :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Lusche
Errr... I didnt talk about shutting down Vbases... :rolleyes:
Don't kill the TT VBases. Kill the spawn campers.
Killing TT Vbases = Killjoy.
Killing Spawn Campers = Fun.
(just to clarify)
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Originally posted by WMLute
Don't kill the TT VBases. Kill the spawn campers.
Killing TT Vbases = Killjoy.
Killing Spawn Campers = Fun.
(just to clarify)
That's exactly my opinion. :aok
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Originally posted by WMLute
Don't kill the TT VBases. Kill the spawn campers.
Killing TT Vbases = Killjoy.
Killing Spawn Campers = Fun.
(just to clarify)
It's pretty much useless to kill spawn campers for v23.. v2 and v44 both spawn with range on v23 so only way to kill the spawn campers is to kill the VH's.
Other wise they just re-up 2 seconds later. IE the wack a mole syndrome. Still today we have yet another day that no reset is even close and we are still stuck with the same crap spawn.
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If i want to play in TT a little but cannt because:
... somebody camp our spawn so i cannt go away from it, i return in fighter with 2x1000lbs and blow 1 or 2 campers. Repeat if needed.
... somebody kill our VHs, i take a fighter with 2x1000lbs and bomb tanks of his country (mainly) until VHs up.
Also when somebody kill me from inside of windmill, i return in fighter with 2x1000lbs and blow him.
That is easy :aok
P.S. But HTC need to move spawns further away :furious
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Originally posted by crockett
I'll agree because he was one of the spawn campers whom killed me a few times yesterday.
Allow me to desagree. If I killed you, I'm better than claim not to be.
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i blame the canadians for this blasphomy!
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look, if killing the VHs is the only way to get a handle on it, kill them... dont listen to these other guys.
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Originally posted by Oleg
If i want to play in TT a little but cannt because:
... somebody camp our spawn so i cannt go away from it, i return in fighter with 2x1000lbs and blow 1 or 2 campers. Repeat if needed.
... somebody kill our VHs, i take a fighter with 2x1000lbs and bomb tanks of his country (mainly) until VHs up.
Also when somebody kill me from inside of windmill, i return in fighter with 2x1000lbs and blow him.
That is easy :aok
P.S. But HTC need to move spawns further away :furious
Oleg.. I know you don't play on the Rooks team because you have spawn camped me a few times lately at v23. Before you say it's easy, why don't you switch over and play TT from the current rook spawn at v23.
I suggest everyone whom thinks it's easy to rid the spawn of campers do the same. Put your money where your mouth is and see how easy it is after this last game update.
The simple fact is this, since the new update, only the Rooks have played from 23 spawn. So if you haven't switched over to the rooks side and played TT from that spawn during heavy play times. Well then you don't have a clue as to what you are talking about.
No offense meant, but unless you have played from v23 spawn since the update you don't have a clue.
I've switched to both Bish and Nits to test the current spawn and neither compare even remotely to how bad v23 is.
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Originally posted by CarlsBee
Allow me to desagree. If I killed you, I'm better than claim not to be.
Yea maybe it wasn't you, because last night after being continually spawn camped at v23 someone dropped the nits and bish VH's . So I said the hell with it and went and camped the Nits spawn to give them a taste of what it's like.
I think I killed you like 5 times along with a few others before someone finally bombed me. Unfortunately none of the normal names whom always spawn camp upped when I was there because I was looking forward to it.
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Originally posted by crockett
Oleg.. I know you don't play on the Rooks team because you have spawn camped me a few times lately at v23. Before you say it's easy, why don't you switch over and play TT from the current rook spawn at v23.
You contended that i dont play for rooks because i kill you several times as knight... Do you see obvious flaw in your logic?
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Originally posted by crockett
Oh I did this moorning.. I tried upping 5 times and was killed 5 times in a row before I could even get remotely close to the TT town.
So I upped a Lancaster and shut down both Bish and Nits TT v bases by myself. Was funny to see people *****ing about me ruining their fun.. :rofl
I promptly landed (got two kills as well) then upped my Sherman and went to my hiding spot in town just in time for the nits V base to pop. Then I started popping away at them. :D
If that's what I have to do too get past the spawn campers, then that's what I'll keep doing.
this just proves you want to be the spawn camper, and not the person being camped..... like everyone. So why are you complaining if you do the exact same thing they do?
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A TT bomber is just a spawncamper waiting to happen... we get it crockett. ;)
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Originally posted by Anyone
this just proves you want to be the spawn camper, and not the person being camped..... like everyone. So why are you complaining if you do the exact same thing they do?
Where did you get from that post, that I spawn camped anyone? I said I went to one of my favorite spots "in" the TT town. Finding a good location inside the town or at a strategic location is a hell of a lot different than sitting on someones spawn killing them before they can even start the engine.
As far as when I switched teams I didn't even bother fighting because I only switched when I was ready to log off. Each side I tested the v2 and v44 spawns to see if they had the same issues. I basically made a bunch of runs into town and even sat at the v44 spawn for 5 mins just to see if I'd get killed. Only got killed one time and that was at v2 spawn.
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What's the point in arguing about the ground war? This is a flight simulation. There are some good WWII tank/RTS games out there. This game is not designed to be one of them.
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Originally posted by trotter
What's the point in arguing about the ground war? This is a flight simulation. There are some good WWII tank/RTS games out there. This game is not designed to be one of them.
that is only your opinion, and far from fact.
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The importance of tankers in this game and on this special map is overrated. Fights around TT are just a waste of time and bandwidth...
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Originally posted by Harp00n
The importance of tankers in this game and on this special map is overrated. Fights around TT are just a waste of time and bandwidth...
In what way is having FUN in GAME a waste of time and bandwith, when you pay to have fun in a game?
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You have to kill the TT VHs to kill the spawn campers :aok
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Originally posted by Nilsen
In what way is having FUN in GAME a waste of time and bandwith, when you pay to have fun in a game?
You're not playing his way damn it!!!!!!!!!:furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
Now go help win the war.
:D :D :D :D :D
Bronk
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:furious
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Originally posted by Stang
:furious
:furious
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Originally posted by Nilsen
:furious
:furious
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Originally posted by Nilsen
In what way is having FUN in GAME a waste of time and bandwith, when you pay to have fun in a game?
u'r in the army now! No fun! Just win the damn war!
War is hell, no fun in hell. :D