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Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 02:05:31 PM: people in the windmill,is this cheating or just people taking advantage of a bug that HTC did not forsee,i know it's going to be fixed in the next patch but who think this is cheating,no names of those people,they know who they are. :aok :aok

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: SkyRock on April 21, 2007, 02:06:40 PM: Chep, lame, dweeeby, twitish, etc.........but not cheating!:aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: SlapShot on April 21, 2007, 02:08:35 PM: It's called "Gaming the Game" ... not cheating.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Oleg on April 21, 2007, 02:12:02 PM: Its called "exploiting bugs", but afaik HTC dont ban for it. But some other companies do.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 02:29:49 PM: thats what im saying,but if someones' in a windmill,every one starts calling him a cheater,i think their just mad that their geting killed by that person.

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 21, 2007, 02:34:19 PM: (http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/ElectricWaterbed/23aa5baf8e4d1ea06b5877d070d74a2a.gif)

War is hell.

-Sp0t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 02:37:31 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/ElectricWaterbed/23aa5baf8e4d1ea06b5877d070d74a2a.gif)

War is hell.

-Sp0t

ROFLMAO :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :O :O :aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on April 21, 2007, 02:41:01 PM: "Gv-Dude,you are in a windmill"
"Windmillm-Gv, yeah..i hax"

"Gv-Dude, okay,see you in 3 mins"
"Windmillm-Gv, whatever newb.."

"3 minutes later"

"weeeeeeeew....boom....boom... boom..boom.boomboomboomBOOOOM !"

"*system* Windmill-Gv was killed by "now" Bomber-Dude."
"Windmill-Gv, tank town is for tank's you haxor!"

"Bmbr-Dude, LOLZORHAHAh10101!!"

Sigh.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: SteveBailey on April 21, 2007, 02:42:34 PM: knowingly exploiting a bug is cheating, IMHO.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 02:43:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BaDkaRmA158Th
"Gv-Dude,you are in a windmill"
"Windmillm-Gv, yeah..i hax"

"Gv-Dude, okay,see you in 3 mins"
"Windmillm-Gv, whatever newb.."

"3 minutes later"

"weeeeeeeew....boom....boom... boom..boom.boomboomboomBOOOOM !"

"*system* Windmill-Gv was killed by "now" Bomber-Dude."
"Windmill-Gv, tank town is for tank's you haxor!"

"Bmbr-Dude, LOLZORHAHAh10101!!"

Sigh.

wow :huh :huh :confused: :confused:
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: AAolds on April 21, 2007, 03:38:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SteveBailey
knowingly exploiting a bug is cheating, IMHO.

I'll 2nd that.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: porkfrog on April 21, 2007, 04:28:37 PM: you know it's funny how society today is so comfortable with wordsmithing things so it fits their viewpoint.
it's just gaming the game" or "it's not cheating, it's an exploit."

it's pathetic. knowingly doing something like that IS cheating. it's sad that in todays times ppl have become so at ease with cheating. no sense of integrity.

it speaks volumes about the times we live in.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2007, 04:37:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/ElectricWaterbed/23aa5baf8e4d1ea06b5877d070d74a2a.gif)

War is hell.

-Sp0t

Yeah, making fun of it is even classy.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2007, 04:38:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SteveBailey
knowingly exploiting a bug is cheating, IMHO.

Agree 100%
Title: Re: is this considered cheating?
Post by: yanksfan on April 21, 2007, 04:43:45 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
people in the windmill,is this cheating or just people taking advantage of a bug that HTC did not forsee,i know it's going to be fixed in the next patch but who think this is cheating,no names of those people,they know who they are. :aok :aok

~~~VansCrew~~~

~~Now Vans, what did we say about the talking thing...................?~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 04:45:19 PM: keep doing it?? :huh :huh :confused: :confused:

yanks
~VansCrew~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: yanksfan on April 21, 2007, 04:49:05 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
keep doing it?? :huh :huh :confused: :confused:

yanks
~VansCrew~

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!, We said VANS talking is BAD!!!!!:furious

"S"Vans. You know your my buddy!
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2007, 05:33:56 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
Edit: ehh that was a bit harsh. But yes I am classy. Just ask your sister.

-Sp0t

Juvenile comebacks are all that you ever had BBBB. I see nothing has changed throughout the 3-4 different handles you've had.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2007, 05:38:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
LOL..Awww is him sad because I didn't bow before the great one? I am soo sorry.

-Sp0t

When did I say that? Never. Ask your "new squaddies".
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 21, 2007, 05:39:34 PM: Edit: I forgot this board has an ignore button. Makes it easier to avoid the trolls.
-Sp0t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Silat on April 21, 2007, 05:41:44 PM: It is only "cheating" if HT says it is:)
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 21, 2007, 05:42:04 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
You poke a guy with a stick, then ask questions when he gets up and tears into you. Classic. Go back under your rock..trolls not need here. Back on topic.

-Sp0t

I'm not the one who left the game for 2 years. Go back to yours, I didn't realize this forum was yours. You couldn't tear into a nacho chip.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: blkmgc on April 21, 2007, 06:25:25 PM: I've tried and tried, just cant get my aeroplane to fly in the windmill? HOW ARE THEY DOING THIS!!??
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: kennyhayes on April 21, 2007, 06:30:46 PM: today i killed xeyed when he backed out of the winmill.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: crockett on April 21, 2007, 06:38:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SteveBailey
knowingly exploiting a bug is cheating, IMHO.

Agreed..

However at this point if it's used in defense against the spawn campers at V23 then I can't blame anyone for doing it. It's about the only chance to rid v23 from the unfair advantage the other two spawns have.

I'm against it's use but really I can't blame the any rooks at this point for jumping in the one at v23. However if it's used as a spawn camp then I think it's pretty damn lame.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Bronk on April 21, 2007, 06:44:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by crockett
Agreed..

However at this point if it's used in defense against the spawn campers at V23 then I can't blame anyone for doing it. It's about the only chance to rid v23 from the unfair advantage the other two spawns have.

I'm against it's use but really I can't blame the any rooks at this point for jumping in the one at v23. However if it's used as a spawn camp then I think it's pretty damn lame.

Ahh so it's ok If YOU need to do it.

Good to know.

Bronk
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: hubsonfire on April 21, 2007, 06:54:47 PM: No word from HTC, so obviously it's acceptable gameplay, and not cheating. Gentleman, man your windmills.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: LancerVT on April 21, 2007, 06:59:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/ElectricWaterbed/23aa5baf8e4d1ea06b5877d070d74a2a.gif)

War is hell.

-Sp0t

LMAO

where do you get this stuff from?
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: crockett on April 21, 2007, 07:29:57 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Ahh so it's ok If YOU need to do it.

Good to know.

Bronk

don't be an idiot..
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 07:34:38 PM: Quote
Originally posted by blkmgc
I've tried and tried, just cant get my aeroplane to fly in the windmill? HOW ARE THEY DOING THIS!!??

lol you just want to know so you can do it to others,but you cant,i took rook and knight TT...i drove an m3 from TT to A22 :aok :aok :noid .

~VansCrew~

o.k what you do it drive up to the windmill in a M4 go into it by the right of the door,good lick trying it thow TT's MINE :t :t :t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Bronk on April 21, 2007, 07:37:21 PM: Quote
Originally posted by crockett
don't be an idiot..

I'm not the one condoning cheating (You agreed, the use of a known bug as cheating.) when its used in YOUR defense.

Here is the thing, cheating is cheating no mater the intention.

Yea and I'm the idiot. pfffft.

Bronk
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: 68ZooM on April 21, 2007, 07:50:36 PM: anytime you use a bug or exploit a bug yes its cheating,sad thing is do you really need to exploit a bug to get kills?? freaking lame thats it
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: crockett on April 21, 2007, 07:54:02 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
I'm not the one condoning cheating (You agreed, the use of a known bug as cheating.) when its used in YOUR defense.

Here is the thing, cheating is cheating no mater the intention.

Yea and I'm the idiot. pfffft.

Bronk

Yea like I said don't be an idiot. Pick and choose the words from a post to come up with what you want.. Humm I bet I can do that too..

Quote
Originally posted by Bronk
Yea and I'm the idiot

Bronk

humm I kinda like that.. just remember you posted it I just quoted it..

:rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: b56 on April 21, 2007, 08:01:16 PM: THOSE PITURES ARE FROM "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" HOR COULD YAL :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: b56 on April 21, 2007, 08:02:02 PM: THOSE PITURES ARE FROM "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" HOW COULD YAL :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
THAT A WWII MOVIE, REATARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 08:02:50 PM: Quote
Originally posted by b56
THOSE PITURES ARE FROM "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" HOR COULD YAL

WHAT!?!? :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Atoon on April 21, 2007, 08:05:43 PM: people who use the windmill bug are ALMOST as lame as Vets who fly noob rides. ALMOST as lame---- but not quite.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: 68ZooM on April 21, 2007, 08:07:26 PM: Quote
Originally posted by b56
THOSE PITURES ARE FROM "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" HOW COULD YAL :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
THAT A WWII MOVIE, REATARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

look whos calling us retards, Oh BTW great capslock and spelling to:aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Husky01 on April 21, 2007, 08:07:51 PM: Quote
THOSE PITURES ARE FROM "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" HOR COULD YAL

:huh :huh :confused: :huh :huh :confused:
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 21, 2007, 08:08:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by b56
THOSE PITURES ARE FROM "SAVING PRIVATE RYAN" HOW COULD YAL :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious :furious
THAT A WWII MOVIE, REATARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e226/CodemanEra/snaps_larry_hagman_media.jpg)
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: b56 on April 21, 2007, 08:09:04 PM: Those pictures where from SAVING PRIVATE RYAN how could yal make fun of it it was a WWII movie
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 21, 2007, 08:10:52 PM: Nobody was making fun of the movie. Wow..I have more pictures I could waste on you..but I will save them on someone who needs them more.

-Sp0t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 08:16:20 PM: Quote
Originally posted by b56
Those pictures where from SAVING PRIVATE RYAN how could yal make fun of it it was a WWII movie

because it was funny :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 08:17:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
(http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e226/CodemanEra/snaps_larry_hagman_media.jpg)

ROFLMAO another funny moment :rofl :rofl :rofl :O
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Bronk on April 21, 2007, 08:23:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by crockett
Agreed..

However at this point if it's used in defense against the spawn campers at V23 then I can't blame anyone for doing it. It's about the only chance to rid v23 from the unfair advantage the other two spawns have.

I'm against it's use but really I can't blame the any rooks at this point for jumping in the one at v23. However if it's used as a spawn camp then I think it's pretty damn lame.

Translation

OK for rooks to do it because I am one. But the rest of you are cheating SOBs.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

:aok

Bronk
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Oldman731 on April 21, 2007, 08:35:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
because it was funny :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Perhaps I'm the only one who's offended.

Who would have guessed?

- oldman
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: hubsonfire on April 21, 2007, 08:40:27 PM: If it had been actual WW2 footage, it would be extremely offensive. However, it's make believe footage, and I don't think that's any more offensive than making money off the grisly slaughter of men by other men, which IMO is pretty much what SPR did.

hub (hey, this has got to be a better hijack than just calling each other idiots or cheaters, and who doesn't love a parenthetical?)
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Viking on April 21, 2007, 08:52:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SteveBailey
knowingly exploiting a bug is cheating, IMHO.

I agree (hell forecast: heavy snowfall). Using known "exploits" is a bannable offence in many MMOG's.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Furball on April 21, 2007, 08:53:19 PM: Park in front of them, or smoke them so they cannot see :)
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 21, 2007, 08:55:55 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Oldman731
Perhaps I'm the only one who's offended.

Who would have guessed?

- oldman

Offended? About what? That I shamelessly potatod out Tom Hanks or are you upset that I spoiled Tom Sizemore's good name? Those two poor WWII vets. ;)

-Sp0t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 09:15:03 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
Park in front of them, or smoke them so they cannot see :)

if you park in front of them,you will get shot :aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: CarlsBee on April 21, 2007, 09:25:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
Offended? About what? That I shamelessly potatod out Tom Hanks or are you upset that I spoiled Tom Sizemore's good name? Those two poor WWII vets. ;)

-Sp0t

Me think it an exploit.

:p
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: SteveBailey on April 21, 2007, 09:29:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Viking
I agree

Viking, I may just stop posting in this forum now. I'm not sure there's anything left here for me to accomplish. :D
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 21, 2007, 09:34:27 PM: lol :rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Furball on April 22, 2007, 05:10:47 AM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
if you park in front of them,you will get shot :aok

even better, killshoot the bastiges :D :t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Bronk on April 22, 2007, 08:22:11 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
even better, killshoot the bastiges :D :t

Hey now, this I like.

:aok

Bronk
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 08:47:51 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Furball
even better, killshoot the bastiges :D :t

:rofl :rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: allmetal on April 22, 2007, 09:07:53 AM: Quote
Originally posted by CarlsBee
Me think it an exploit.

:p

You would know.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 09:11:34 AM: Quote
Originally posted by allmetal
You would know.

agrees
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Dm6 on April 22, 2007, 03:25:55 PM: What is the definition of cheating? Who's Definition are we going to use? Has HTC posted a definition of what they consider cheating?
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 03:38:15 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dm6
What is the definition of cheating? Who's Definition are we going to use? Has HTC posted a definition of what they consider cheating?

well the dictionary defines cheating as:gain unfair advantage by deception or breaking rules.And i agree with that the person in the windmill is cheating.The only was to kill him if to bomb him,but if you dont have ords at the TT base,you would have to drive all the was from the TT V-base just to kill one guy.The person in the windmill has a 360 look around him,most of the time you dont see the person in the windmill unless you see the tracer rounds.It's unfair to the ones being camped,they cant shoot back at him,they will hit the windmill it self.even people on the same team as the person in thw windmill give the them up,saying on 200 so and so is in the windmill bhind the rooks spawn.And it's sad that some one has to steep down that low just to get a few kills,some people do it all the time some people do it only once.And i know people have said that they have film of the people in the windmillls,if you just look on the bords you will see the person in the windmill.

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Hap on April 22, 2007, 03:41:41 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
you will see the person in the windmill

All sorts of things one could do with that one.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mr No Name on April 22, 2007, 03:45:49 PM: But But But... is it really a "Bug" or a "Feature"??? LOL

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Nilsen on April 22, 2007, 03:52:05 PM: Them thar jermans were krafty so id be not surprised if they had developed a windmill bunkar that coulda fitted a tank in em. Could be won of them jerman winmill bunkars fer shure.

harr..
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 03:52:08 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Hap
All sorts of things one could do with that one.

lol
Title: spawn campers
Post by: jtdragon on April 22, 2007, 04:04:45 PM: Sorry guy's but the way TT is set up you are spawn camping as soon as you spawn and if I can get in the wind mill I will. all it takes to get the out is a load of 1000 lbs from a B26.
Title: Re: spawn campers
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 04:09:16 PM: Quote
Originally posted by jtdragon
all it takes to get the out is a load of 1000 lbs from a B26.

true but what if ord's are down at your airbase,and rooks always hord over TT because the get killed on their spawn the cry :cry :cry on 200 then they come to bomb you.26 over TT you will be swormed :).
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Dm6 on April 22, 2007, 04:20:44 PM: The big problem I see is that ATC is not willing to ban someone for it. So ther is no way they are going to say its cheating because a lot of poeple would already be banned. My point is we have at least two differant definitions of cheating.

I dont like leaving the deep structure of comunication just hanging in the the balance of a definition.

I have no problem stating that I beleive it is WRONG .. and you wont catch me in there. I dont care what definition you use. . A game comes with the pre supposition that it is balanced and fair.

I will PLAY Fair and Balanced HTC'S political problems don't concern me.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 22, 2007, 04:47:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dm6
The big problem I see is that ATC is not willing to ban someone for it.

Damned ATC, they are always telling me what to do, where to fly, how high I can fly, where I can and cannot go. Down with the ATC!

-Sp0t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Dm6 on April 22, 2007, 04:58:24 PM: Let me clarify for you BBBB. ITS a problem in relationship to the definition of cheating that vans quoted. Therefore two differant definitions of cheating.

I would ask you" Please Don't sound bite my post and then try to reframe what I said".

I stated no disrespect to HTC.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 05:06:07 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dm6
Let me clarify for you BBBB. ITS a problem in relationship to the definition of cheating that vans quoted. Therefore two differant definitions of cheating.

I would ask you" Please Don't sound bite my post and then try to reframe what I said".

I stated no disrespect to HTC.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 22, 2007, 05:06:41 PM: Put away the dictionaries...

If HTC states, scolds, kicks, or bans anyone trying this "glitch" out... then it would be considered "Not Allowed".

The question is not whether it's cheating or not, it's whether HTC would allow it to play, just like in a court room...

Yes it is a glitch that HTC should fix... that's fine - Give them time.

But is it lame? Yes. Is it annoying? Sure is... It may even seem genius to some. In Aces High, I would consider it lame and would never even use this glitch in the game. However, there may be other games I would use such a glitch in, because of the circumstances and the situation.

Aces High II is a respectable community filled mostly with mature players, regardless of age. I would like to keep it this way.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 05:08:31 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Dm6
The big problem I see is that ATC is not willing to ban someone for it. So ther is no way they are going to say its cheating because a lot of poeple would already be banned. My point is we have at least two differant definitions of cheating.

I dont like leaving the deep structure of comunication just hanging in the the balance of a definition.

I have no problem stating that I beleive it is WRONG .. and you wont catch me in there. I dont care what definition you use. . A game comes with the pre supposition that it is balanced and fair.

I will PLAY Fair and Balanced HTC'S political problems don't concern me.

not ban someone more like take their kills off of the overall kills to death in a GV somthing along that line.or at the most lock the account for a week not a permant ban but somthing to discurage some one form keep doing it,or start doing it.

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 22, 2007, 05:10:09 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
not ban someone more like take their kills off of the overall kills to death in a GV somthing along that line.or at the most lock the account for a week not a permant ban but somthing to discurage some one form keep doing it,or start doing it.

~~~VansCrew~~~

~~Why don't we just take away the windmill? No more windmill, no more bickering!~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 05:20:18 PM: their going to fix the problem,but people were crying over 200 i just want to see what other people think about it.

~VansCrew~

P.S windmills save enegy,with out the windmilld HTC would not be able to afford gas for for all the fighters. :aok :aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Nilsen on April 22, 2007, 05:24:29 PM: I think there should be houses around the maps and you get assigned to one that you live in and stuff and you get a wife that is your real wife and she has a job and she goes to drink coffe with all the other pilot wifes and then all our missuses can chat and play house in the game while we fly planes and stuff. that would be awsome cause wimmin like games were they can play house and do social stuff and stuff. they can make bread on the farms and the farms can get water from rivers and stuff and then the windmills can be used to make the flower needed for the bread. the missuses can then get perks and you need to have lot of perks if you wanna get a perkride with your wife.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 22, 2007, 05:26:39 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
I think there should be houses around the maps and you get assigned to one that you live in and stuff and you get a wife that is your real wife and she has a job and she goes to drink coffe with all the other pilot wifes and then all our missuses can chat and play house in the game while we fly planes and stuff. that would be awsome cause wimmin like games were they can play house and do social stuff and stuff. they can make bread on the farms and the farms can get water from rivers and stuff and then the windmills can be used to make the flower needed for the bread.

They already have this, and its called PlayStation HOME for the Playstation 3 - Coming out Fall 2007... :rofl :rofl

What will Sony think of next...? :rofl

Link: http://www.us.playstation.com/Media/Trailer/15963/GDC_2007_PlayStation_Home#SearchId=15963&Page=1&PageSize=15&Section=Media&ShowMedia=15963 (http://www.us.playstation.com/Media/Trailer/15963/GDC_2007_PlayStation_Home#SearchId=15963&Page=1&PageSize=15&Section=Media&ShowMedia=15963)
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Nilsen on April 22, 2007, 05:33:19 PM: yes but there is no tanks and ack and jeeps in sony playstation plus you must have playstation and that is just for kids and stuff
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 22, 2007, 05:35:24 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
yes but there is no tanks and ack and jeeps in sony playstation plus you must have playstation and that is just for kids and stuff

Well I do have a PlayStation 3, and I am 20 years old, but I would not call it "kid stuff".

A Playstation 3 has more power than the top of the line PC's today.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Nilsen on April 22, 2007, 05:37:27 PM: but there is no ack and jeep and planetanks and such in the playstation when you bought it and there you go. its kid stuff and your are only 20 year so that is that
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 05:38:35 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
but there is no ack and jeep and planetanks and such in the playstation when you bought it and there you go. its kid stuff and your are only 20 year so that is that

their is a new grand theft auto coming out....you never know.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: yanksfan on April 22, 2007, 05:39:10 PM: I really think people throw the cheat word around way way to much, is it unsportsman like,"YES" is it cheating "NO", the fact of the matter is anyone in a gv can do this, so if everyone can do it, it's not an unfair advantage, just be careful around windmills with 88's sticking out of them.

drop a bomb on them,don't invite them to dinner, don't drink with them, but for god sake, please PLEASE!, stop calling everyone a cheater that finds a way sneaky or not to kill someone, i mean if this were real combat you wouldn't think twice about it and you'd come up with plenty of ways to hide.
The good folks at HTC will fix it one way or the other, until then watch out for windmills.

And VANS we really are going to have to reveiw this talking thing, your out of control bro!:furious

And please tell me you are not a sceaming devil:huh
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 22, 2007, 05:42:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
but there is no ack and jeep and planetanks and such in the playstation when you bought it and there you go. its kid stuff and your are only 20 year so that is that

You're right, but there is cutting edge CPU and RSX chips, a Blu-Ray Disc Player, Optical, HDMI, Component, USB, and Memory card ports, not to mention WiFi Capabilities all wrapped into one 600 Dollar High Definition Experience...

You can keep saying its kid stuff if you'd like.
Title: HAIKU4U
Post by: Yknurd on April 22, 2007, 05:52:44 PM: Flowing estrogen
Beguiling, useless, cheat post
masses follow script
Title: Re: HAIKU4U
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 22, 2007, 06:09:12 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Yknurd
Flowing estrogen
Beguiling, useless, cheat post
masses follow script

huh :huh :huh :huh :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Dm6 on April 22, 2007, 09:02:18 PM: I hope u dont think i was implying to ban anyone. I was trying to show the differance in HTC deffintion of cheating and the one u quoted from the dictionary.

Based on the fact tha they ban cheaters from the game and no one has been ban. They are not going to agree with this being "cheating". IT will get call lots of other things but not cheating.

The real question is should players be doing it. I just stated for my self I beleive it is wrong and I will not be doing it.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Donzo on April 22, 2007, 09:07:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Nilsen
I think there should be houses around the maps and you get assigned to one that you live in and stuff and you get a wife that is your real wife and she has a job and she goes to drink coffe with all the other pilot wifes and then all our missuses can chat and play house in the game while we fly planes and stuff. that would be awsome cause wimmin like games were they can play house and do social stuff and stuff. they can make bread on the farms and the farms can get water from rivers and stuff and then the windmills can be used to make the flower needed for the bread. the missuses can then get perks and you need to have lot of perks if you wanna get a perkride with your wife.

AH meets The Sims?
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 22, 2007, 10:24:28 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Mak333
Put away the dictionaries...

The question is not whether it's cheating or not, it's whether HTC would allow it to play

Dm6, I think our thinking complements each other nicely. As you said and I said, its not a matter of "is it cheating?"

It's a question asking "should players being using this glitch?"

As Dm6 and I already stated... we will not be using this glitch. For me, my reasons are because it is immature and lame to use. I like to think of AHII as more of a simulator than a game. I think a lot of other people will agree when I say that. In a simulator, I wouldn't make use of this. However, under different circumstances (in a game) I may...
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Nilsen on April 23, 2007, 01:19:50 AM: Its been good fishing. :)
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 23, 2007, 06:56:10 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Dm6
Let me clarify for you BBBB. ITS a problem in relationship to the definition of cheating that vans quoted. Therefore two differant definitions of cheating.

I would ask you" Please Don't sound bite my post and then try to reframe what I said".

I stated no disrespect to HTC.

All he can do is "reframe", ever since he started he has done it. He tried calling me out when he was a newbie. As most in here know, I've most often been a Rook. I said "Rooks really need to stop kicking butt". He went off on private vox calling me a "traitor", this and that. He may recall that incident. All he had to do was bring up the roster, but he didn't.

Dm6, he's a strange one.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: AApache on April 23, 2007, 09:15:52 AM: It's a problem that HTC has recognized and is going to fix.I say use it till we lose it:aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: BBBB on April 23, 2007, 10:47:24 AM: I did not sound byte anything. I was laughing at the ATC part. Your full post was;
Quote
Originally posted by Dm6
The big problem I see is that ATC is not willing to ban someone for it. So ther is no way they are going to say its cheating because a lot of poeple would already be banned. My point is we have at least two differant definitions of cheating.

I dont like leaving the deep structure of comunication just hanging in the the balance of a definition.

I have no problem stating that I beleive it is WRONG .. and you wont catch me in there. I dont care what definition you use. . A game comes with the pre supposition that it is balanced and fair.

I will PLAY Fair and Balanced HTC'S political problems don't concern me.

Some how you got ATC insted of HTC, so with that I took the opportunity to express my displeasure with ATC. ATC being Air Traffice Control. Lol..wow if I were a fishing man..I would have a string full.
I came in under guest and saw that Masherbrum is still humping my leg..Classic. Hump harder..you are almost there.

-Sp0t
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: SteveBailey on April 23, 2007, 11:11:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Mak333
A Playstation 3 has more power than the top of the line PC's today.

*snicker*

Uh huh,. riiiiiiiight.

:aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Husky01 on April 23, 2007, 11:46:50 AM: PS3s suck its all about the 360s
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 23, 2007, 11:58:06 AM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
Hump harder..you are almost there.

I wish I had a $3000 BBQ grill. I'd still stink at the game.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Mak333 on April 23, 2007, 01:51:17 PM: Quote
Originally posted by SteveBailey
*snicker*

Uh huh,. riiiiiiiight.

:aok

Average PCs compute at ten gigaFLOPS, while the Playstation 3 computes at 2.18 teraFLOPS.... at this rate it can be considered a "supercomputer".
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Krusty on April 23, 2007, 01:55:20 PM: Sure......

EDIT: I'm not sure if "......" conveyed the tone I was looking for, so let me add:

:rolleyes:
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Krusty on April 23, 2007, 02:27:39 PM: Did a little searching. The Conroe chip has 290 million transistors. I found the following on some webpage:

Quote
It turns out that the Xbox 360 GPU which is now known as 'Xenos' (not R500 anymore) is an absolute friggin monster. the GPU package contains two seperate dies. the total amount of transistors for the entire GPU-system is 332 million. the main 'parent' GPU has 232 million transistors. the "daughter' die, which contains the eDRAM plus other logic for z-check, anti-aliasing, and other stuff, has the other 100 million transistors.

this is a DAMN SIGHT more than previously reported. on May 12th, IGN reported that the Xbox360 GPU had 150 million transistors. this was very surprising, given that, ATI's 1+ year old R420 (Radeon X800) had 160 million.

but *now* that it has been revealed that Xbox GPU 'Xenos' has an 332 million transistors, it can be said that this graphics architecture surpasses Nvidia's RSX 'Reality Synthesizer' GPU in Playstation3, which only has 300 million transistors. it seems Microsoft and ATI have built a real beast of a GPU here.

here is the article confirming Xbox360 GPU graphics subsystem has 332M
transistors

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p3.html

Note that the X-Box systems have integrated video cards, and memory controlers, and all that jazz. They're counting EVERY transistor on the entire system, whereas on my desktop PC I have N1 transistors in my CPU, N2 transistors in my graphics card, and N3 transistors in my Audigy sound card.

If I've got a Conroe (which I will soon) I'd have 290M transistors. ATI estimates the RV570's transistor count at 330 million (RV570 used in the x1950 card). my Audigy card is supposed to have 4.6M transistors...

So, my desktop PC could have 624M transistors for a mid-range system. Whereas the highest of the best of the X-Boxes has only 332M.

There's no way an X-Box of any make or design will best any of the high-end desktops. It just can't happen, due to the integrated nature of the X-Box design, and the modular design of existing desktops.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 23, 2007, 02:30:19 PM: Quote
Originally posted by AApache
It's a problem that HTC has recognized and is going to fix.I say use it till we lose it:aok

i always kill you before you get off the spawn,you cant use it :D :D :noid

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Citabria on April 23, 2007, 09:16:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by BBBB
(http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c371/ElectricWaterbed/23aa5baf8e4d1ea06b5877d070d74a2a.gif)

War is hell.

-Sp0t

I am saving this it's classic :D
Title: Re: is this considered cheating?
Post by: KTM520guy on April 24, 2007, 08:33:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
people in the windmill,is this cheating or just people taking advantage of a bug that HTC did not forsee,i know it's going to be fixed in the next patch but who think this is cheating,no names of those people,they know who they are. :aok :aok

~~~VansCrew~~~

~~It's a creative use of cover. Use every advantage to kill your enemy.~~
Title: Re: Re: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 25, 2007, 08:41:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by KTM520guy
It's a creative use of cover. Use every advantage to kill your enemy.

but you cant shoot at then wit out hiting the mill
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Jonny boy 8 on April 25, 2007, 10:21:56 AM: its not really cheating, they find cover and they cant get shot at. in war yheir is no cheating.

p51srule :aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 25, 2007, 12:03:56 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Jonny boy 8
its not really cheating, they find cover and they cant get shot at. in war yheir is no cheating.

p51srule :aok

sure thing taylortanklover.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: SKurj on April 25, 2007, 12:08:33 PM: If HT made all spits indestructible with a bad speeling mistake while coding, would flying one be a cheat?

No, but you can bet HT would fix it quick.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 25, 2007, 12:21:28 PM: well their fixing the mill in the next patch,but who knows when that is,i hope it's soon,

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Brenjen on April 25, 2007, 12:23:21 PM: Cheating - this isn't war it's a game.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Jonny boy 8 on April 25, 2007, 12:26:47 PM: that made no scence:huh

p51srule:aok
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Masherbrum on April 25, 2007, 12:57:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Jonny boy 8
that made no scence:huh

p51srule:aok

sure thing taylortanklover.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: Brenjen on April 25, 2007, 01:27:52 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Jonny boy 8
that made no scence:huh

p51srule:aok

You mean - "sense"?

What I said made sense; can't say the same for your remark though.
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: cpxxx on April 25, 2007, 02:44:48 PM: Wow! You can hide in a windmill and never get kilt:aok
See you there tonight boys.:cool:
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: CarlsBee on April 25, 2007, 03:07:10 PM: Quote
Originally posted by cpxxx
Wow! You can hide in a windmill and never get kilt:aok
See you there tonight boys.:cool:

Dont forget to take an umbrela!

:rofl
Title: is this considered cheating?
Post by: VansCrew1 on April 25, 2007, 03:11:54 PM: Quote
Originally posted by cpxxx
Wow! You can hide in a windmill and never get kilt:aok
See you there tonight boys.:cool:

lol bombs do kill you thow :cool:

~~~VansCrew~~~
Title: Re: Re: Re: is this considered cheating?
Post by: KTM520guy on April 25, 2007, 04:30:25 PM: Quote
Originally posted by VansCrew1
but you cant shoot at then wit out hiting the mill

You can kill the dweebs trying to hide in the windmill just fine. It could work great for setting up a surprise attack. Once your cover is blown though, everybody knows how to find you.