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Title: United 93
Post by: rpm on April 23, 2007, 01:08:02 AM
I didn't see United 93 when it was in theaters or released on DVD. I thought it was done too soon. It would be too painful and unpleasant to watch. But, now it's on HBO and I finally sat down to watch it. I have to say I was moved. It was done very, very well.

The film is docudramatic, but is done Jack Webb style...Just the facts. There's no narration, no editorial spin or message. Much of the dialog is the actual transcript of the events. Many of the roles in the film are played by the actual people speaking their own words on 9/11.

You can't help but come away with a sense of pride, patriotism and sorrow. I say this of very few films, but everyone should watch this movie. Show it to your children. Talk to them about the movie.

This is what it means to be an American.

to the passengers and crew of United 93.

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Title: United 93
Post by: AWMac on April 23, 2007, 01:57:45 AM
RPM... too soon for me to watch just yet.

It would hurt.

Mac
Title: United 93
Post by: Yeager on April 23, 2007, 02:01:04 AM
it was difficult to watch.  I didn't want to get wrapped up in a propaganda piece but I don't think this film was any of that.  It just attempted to show how humans  behave towards one another and in very difficult moments.

The only thing that made me wonder was the portrayal of the one European passenger and how he was almost violent in his belief that the terrorists should be appeased, even after finding out that other planes were being flown into building.  I had a hard time believing that.
Title: United 93
Post by: Viking on April 23, 2007, 02:10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
I didn't want to get wrapped up in a propaganda piece but I don't think this film was any of that.  


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Originally posted by Yeager
The only thing that made me wonder was the portrayal of the one European passenger and how he was almost violent in his belief that the terrorists should be appeased, even after finding out that other planes were being flown into building.


Hmm… ;)
Title: United 93
Post by: rpm on April 23, 2007, 02:19:12 AM
I thought it was done with a very even hand.

Mac, I understand and felt the same way until it was over. It made me re-experience some of the feelings I had on 9/11 and I think that was important. Confusion, anxiety, disbelief, WTF is going on, anger, pride.

Lest we forget what it means to be an American.
Title: United 93
Post by: AWMac on April 23, 2007, 02:22:54 AM
I agree.  Just hurts a bit to relive the times.

I have all those emotions just thinking of 9/11.

Mac
Title: United 93
Post by: rpm on April 23, 2007, 02:25:42 AM
More than a bit, but the response from the passengers after they learned what was happening will make you proud. It's what we are all about.
Title: United 93
Post by: mandingo on April 23, 2007, 02:33:33 AM
Got it.  30 minutes on Bee Tee.  :furious
Title: United 93
Post by: rpm on April 23, 2007, 02:46:46 AM
Of the four aircraft hijacked that day, United 93 was the only one that didn't reach it's target. There were no survivors.
Title: United 93
Post by: AWMac on April 23, 2007, 03:01:27 AM
RPM I'll give it a shot.  If it seems to be propaganda then it's off...if the words "Micheal Moore" appear then it's off.

Mac
Title: United 93
Post by: rpm on April 23, 2007, 03:35:45 AM
The last thing you would think about is Michael Moore.
Title: United 93
Post by: mandingo on April 23, 2007, 03:45:52 AM
Watching it now, pretty good movie, dragged a bit in the middle.  What's with the F16 pilots says they could only "damage" the plane with 20mm?  Certainly you can bring down an airliner with 20mm.  I tried it in Lomac or something.
Title: United 93
Post by: Slash27 on April 23, 2007, 04:25:31 AM
20mm would no doubt bring down an airliner, not sure what that was about.
Title: United 93
Post by: -tronski- on April 23, 2007, 05:55:51 AM
I saw Oliver Stone's World Trade Center in the weekend...I thought that was a good show, cracker start - although once the buildings collapse the pacing slows somewhat...

 Tronsky
Title: United 93
Post by: Laurie on April 23, 2007, 06:54:46 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager


The only thing that made me wonder was the portrayal of the one European passenger and how he was almost violent in his belief that the terrorists should be appeased, even after finding out that other planes were being flown into building.  I had a hard time believing that.


i think that may have been a potshot at the european union's(minus britain) pathetic and cowardly backing of the war on terror.
Title: United 93
Post by: Larry on April 23, 2007, 08:43:10 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
20mm would no doubt bring down an airliner, not sure what that was about.



Yea a the F16s 20mm would rip a plane in two.



Havent seen the movie yet Im ganna try to DVR it next time its on.
Title: United 93
Post by: Slash27 on April 23, 2007, 10:00:35 AM
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Originally posted by Larry
Yea a the F16s 20mm would rip a plane in two.



Havent seen the movie yet Im ganna try to DVR it next time its on.


Plan on being pissed TK. Very pissed.
Title: United 93
Post by: Viking on April 23, 2007, 10:05:29 AM
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Originally posted by Laurie
i think that may have been a potshot at the european union's(minus britain) pathetic and cowardly backing of the war on terror.



Oh, stinky bait!
Title: United 93
Post by: AquaShrimp on April 23, 2007, 10:54:09 AM
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Originally posted by mandingo
Watching it now, pretty good movie, dragged a bit in the middle.  What's with the F16 pilots says they could only "damage" the plane with 20mm?  Certainly you can bring down an airliner with 20mm.  I tried it in Lomac or something.


I just happened to pick up a book published by the Air Force on 9/11 in the library that explained this.  The F-16s were only carrying 20mm training rounds.
Title: United 93
Post by: Bodhi on April 23, 2007, 11:22:40 AM
No desire to see it at all.
Title: United 93
Post by: Hazzer on April 23, 2007, 03:05:11 PM
Superb performances by all the cast,|I actually thought they might pull it off even though I new the outcome.Straight story telling no flag waving just the facts,Hollywood at it's best,you should be proud of the makers and the passengers.
Title: United 93
Post by: Larry on April 23, 2007, 06:53:49 PM
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Originally posted by AquaShrimp
I just happened to pick up a book published by the Air Force on 9/11 in the library that explained this.  The F-16s were only carrying 20mm training rounds.



Training round? Blanks, Lazers, Rubber bullets?
Title: United 93
Post by: Elfie on April 23, 2007, 07:55:29 PM
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Originally posted by Larry
Training round? Blanks, Lazers, Rubber bullets?


No.....the training rounds are basically just a normal slug as opposed to HEI (High Explosive Incendiary) rounds that a plane would carry on a normal combat mission.
Title: United 93
Post by: Ripsnort on April 23, 2007, 08:06:53 PM
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Originally posted by Bodhi
No desire to see it at all.

+1
Title: United 93
Post by: Yeager on April 23, 2007, 10:14:22 PM
Bodhi, the movie is a memorial.  It is not a cheap hollywood chick flick, this film pays a POWERFUL tribute to people just like you and I who found themselves in a immensely tragic situation.  Just my opinion but see the film if you can.  It is well worth it to shed a few tears for those souls lost.
Title: United 93
Post by: rpm on April 23, 2007, 10:25:09 PM
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Originally posted by Yeager
Bodhi, the movie is a memorial.  It is not a cheap hollywood chick flick, this film pays a POWERFUL tribute to people just like you and I who found themselves in a immensely tragic situation.  Just my opinion but see the film if you can.  It is well worth it to shed a few tears for those souls lost.
Well said, Yeager.
Title: United 93
Post by: AApache on April 24, 2007, 01:44:54 AM
Roger that rpm very painful.My wife was in the army at that time and was sent to Pentagon to help with the cleanup.She came home with stories of feet still in boots with no legs and the smell of burning flesh on her.It was a sad time in our countries history.I now work at the Pentagon and get to see the memorial built for the 187 gov't workers who died there.It scares me becuase I am thinking what and where will the next attack be.It will be on a much bigger scale.