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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Shuckins on April 23, 2007, 06:24:15 AM
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The wife was channel surfing last night just before I went to bed and caught this interview. Larry King questioning Bill Clinton about, among other things, the Virginia Tech shootings.
After the initial question of what his thoughts and emotions were when he first heard about the shootings, Larry got around to broaching the "gun control" question; leading Clinton to say the usual leftist comments about the failure of the gun control system and the need for changes.
But he got NONE of that from Clinton. Bill described how he had vetoed the gun-control bill calling for instant background checks two or three times because he preferred to have the three day waiting period with the background check. Clinton further stated that while some have concluded that the background check system had failed in the Virginia Tech incident, this was NOT the case.
The background check system worked as it was supposed to, said Clinton. IF the shooter had been properly identified by the mental health system then the background check would have flagged him, and he would have been unable to purchase his weapons.
Clinton ended with the statement that the Virginia Tech shootings resulted from a failure of the mental health system, not the gun control system. :O
Wow. I'm impressed. Rather than jump on the bandwagon with some of his fellow democrats and try to make this into a political issue, the former president took the high road, spoke the truth as he saw it.....and hit the nail on the head. :aok
Regards, Shuckins
p.s. Whatcha bet this is given short shrift in the mainstream media....if it's even mentioned at all?
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No NO NO,
Dems won't touch gun control. They loose way to many votes. Mr. Clinton (reguardless of what people think) is a very smart man and he won't want to loose those votes. That is why he is called slick willy.
Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton Can someone else run for President PLEASE!
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it will never play. clinton can speak his mind now he's not running for office.
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He's protecting his wife's chances.
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even broken clocks are right twice a day.
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Originally posted by Engine
He's protecting his wife's chances.
That's it.
They'll hide their true feelings/plans until after the next election
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The clintons are still running the DNC as a personal fiefdom controlling the funding of the party. As long as they are in that position they will continue to play politics any way they can to get their power base elected to the Whitehouse and Congress. Once in power, they will show their true colors knowing they will have a free hand for 2 more years in Congress and 4 in the White House.
Mao said political power flows from the barrel of a gun, in the clinton's case it flows from the DNC check book to the office they want to hold.
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democrats know they will get their butts handed to em if they let their true feelings out about restricting the second.
They have learned and they keep quiet about it until they get power. It is more of a hot potato to them than abortion is to republicans.
They know that more people will buy guns after these shootings not less..
People are not dumb.. they know that the only protection is the protection they provide themselves.
lazs
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Anything that spues from his mouth is a lie.
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They'll hide their true feelings/plans until after the next election
You know, I wonder. Aside from a few hard cores on the issue politicians only care about getting elected and staying in power. Perhaps the bucks they get from Soros etc. aren't enough to matter anymore compared to the lost votes in the redder states that might be conservative democratic with a little push. How many antis would even make this a single issue voting thing? Not many compared to the pros. So, why not drop it as a "Democratic" issue and replatform moving forward with a focus in other areas?
Not that it won't rear it's head again after 2008, but maybe not...
Charon
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Originally posted by Engine
He's protecting his wife's chances.
You, sir, nailed it.
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I'd go with Toad and lasz on the take that they will wait until after the election.
They'll make sure they have both houses of congress in on it, too.
Kinda like NAFTA, Lot's of people thought Clinton would Veto it. He's the one that made it happen.
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Clinton ended with the statement that the Virginia Tech shootings resulted from a failure of the mental health system, not the gun control system.
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This was my line of thinking a few days ago, although I have evolved a bit from that view. Im going to cut bubba some slack here, I think he might have evolved some from his previous ignorance. Plus, I think the democratic leaders have finally realized that their initial loss to the republicans in 94 was a direct result of gun control measures they pursued and enacted into law.
Also, was at a well stocked gunshop this weekend (buying a new shoulder holster) and noticed a very beautiful Colt M4. It had some sort of special markings from Colt on the right side of the receiver that made it a more valuable rifle. They wanted $1300 for it. Should I buy it? I think so :D
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did he bite his bottom lip?
I second what FiLtH stated
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Originally posted by Pooh21
even broken clocks are right twice a day.
:rofl That's a great quote!
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charon.. we are not ready to drop the "democrat" bit... because they aren't.
The democrats may not be so in love with anti second sentiment as they were but... in the end.. no matter what they may feel... they vote along party lines and the party line is for more and more gun control and more and more trampling on the second.
Push comes to shove.... I want republicans voting on gun control issues..
No way to justify voting for the democrats at this point in time.
lazs
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Lazs, I agree it's too early to tell.
However, I wouldn't be all that surprised if the gun ban plank was actually on it's way out long term (or if it wasn't for that matter). I doubt, even with the media bias and hi profile celeb and political antis that gun control is really a core issue for most Democratic voters -- except those who are pro gun. We'll just have to see. Aside from Feinstein and McCarthy and closer to home Daley and Dick Durbin and Bloomberg in NY I don't think many others care and the downside is clear. What happens after 2008 should tell it.
I will likely be screwed in Illinois regardless, which is pushing to be the most liberal state in the Union with firearm bans at the forefront followed by a bunch of other unfunded, no budget social programs.
All of these mild statements for the current politicians can only help things regardless.
Charon
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You are talking about two different things charon... you are talking about democrat voters (who hold their nose and vote for democrats knowing their parties stance on gun control) and the democrat politicians who vote consistently for more and more gun control.
It is the same as republicans who don't care much about abortion one way or the other. or morality laws for that matter.
At this point... If you are pro abortion tho... you are stupid to vote for a republican and if you are pro second amendment... you are stupid to vote for a democrat.
Pictures of them with shotguns at a skeet club notwhitstanding.
lazs