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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Zazen13 on April 24, 2007, 07:51:05 AM
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At the risk of surmonizing I would like to discuss, as the title suggests, taking personal responsibility for outcomes. As we get an ever-increasing influx of newer players, especially those in the younger demographic, it becomes increasingly important, as veterans, to do our part to instill in them some of that accrued community culture. Part of that culture includes the epiphany of sorts bestowed upon us through experience whereby we realize that everything that happens to us in game is a direct result of decisions we ourselves make at critical junctures during a flight. To put this more succinctly, we are all 100% responsible for what happens to us, noone else, under any circumstances, ever..
Don't believe that?
I suggest in the hanger we are all equal, potential energy waiting to burst forth into the MA. We all have the same planes to choose from (relative perk balances notwithstanding). We all have total control over what country we fly for, whom we fly with, where we fly, how we fly, when and even if we fly. The moment we select a plane and take-off the outcome of that flight becomes the sum of all factors resulting from every decision we make starting with plane selection. If you get gang-banged, vulched, HO'd, rammed, cherry picked, bounced or just plain outflown, it's a direct result of decisions you made starting with which plane you chose and the manner in which you chose to fly it.
I know that is a tough pill to swallow, and those who haven't had their epiphany will still be mired in the murky sea of denial that is what I affectionately term , "The hapless victim syndrome", but it is true. There are no hapless victims in AH, if you truly believe you are the victim of some dastardly tactic, scheme, manuever, legitimate or not, you are in denial..plain and simple. To put this even more harshly, every negative outcome you experience in the game is entirely self-inflicted...
Once people accept that they are the master of their own virtual fate in the skies, certain things will start to happen. There will be alot less whining, there will be more mutual respect, there will be a greater sense of purpose with each flight, and ultimately, if understood by a great enough percentage of the population, a much more positive gaming environment for everyone. Therefore, everyone will have alot more fun and we will atrract and retain more new players/customers.
I think the problem and thus the impediment to attaining the epiphany for some is a stubborn reluctance to place value on the quality of their experience on the individual level of each flight all the way to how they approach the game in general. When goals are set that have nothing to do with the intrinsic value of each flight there is no culpability and mutual responsibility for actions and resultant outcomes. That is the biggest difference that seperates this genre of the past to that of today. Each flight is sacred if one truly quests to grow, in terms of self-fullfillment, in this genre. Each flight is an unique opportunity to learn and develop skills thru infinite variety of experience. By not accepting responsibilty for outcomes you are robbing yourself of your fleeting chance to learn from the decisions you make and the subsequent carefull observation of the insuing cause and effect relationships of those decisions and outcomes..Please don't be a perennial victim...Make a conscious decision to be The Master of Your Domain!
Zazen
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my vote for post of the month...
BRAVO... well said
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Didnt have my coffee B4
Nice post
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Nice one Zaz !!!
For those who have a limited attention span.
"In Aces High ... You have no one or no thing to blame except yourself."
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Would hope to see many replies endorsing this line of thought. Well done Z. :aok
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Originally posted by SlapShot
Nice one Zaz !!!
For those who have a limited attention span.
"In Aces High ... You have no one or no thing to blame except yourself."
Thank You Slap......Im all out of Ritalin
Zaz!....where ya been bud. Haven't seen ya around.
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Damn Zaz....how long did you work on that????:lol
Just bustin your balls a bit, but VERY well said.
I vote for this to be a sticky, maybe even have it on the log in screen. Of course some folks might need a dictionary to understand some of the big words, but Zaz you are spot on with this my friend.
Well done.:aok
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I'll be more than happy to read it into an mp3 file for the reading impaired :)
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Well as a representative of the "just havin fun" crowd, I agree that its good to learn from each fight. But to me that means doing the best you can with a given plane, setting up advantaged, disadvantaged, and even fights. This usually means dying alot at first. But without the dying, and knowing why you died, you aint learnin.
I can understand how some like to stay alive, be it personal preference or pursuit of rank, but I will not let my virtual life get in the way of a good fight, be it one on one, disadvantaged, or grossly outnumbered. To me it just isnt fun staying fast and getting 5 or more kills and rtb. I'd much rather get 3 kills that was hard fought, in a situation I should'nt have gotten out of, even if I died trying.
But to get to that point, you have to get in and get dirty, LEARN from each one, but above all push it to the limit.
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It's all about the fight.
Zazen makes a good point for personal responsibility. Too many in this game are so worried about their score or better yet, their chance at getting their name in lights, that they stagnate the game with an anti-fight slime. I was at the furball in LW blue yesterday for bish first then rooks and was amazed at how many were just hovering just outside of the conflict line waiting to cherrypick. If one just logs on to cherry pick and then states that everyone who gets cherried ought to have better SA, then they have done the "fight" a disservice. The simplest thing to do in this game is to avoid putting yourself in harms way by staying above everything else in the furball and only picking planes that have no chance of avoiding or fighting back. It goes without saying that this is the smart way to fly if you want to kill without fighting, but this game wasn't made for everyone to cherry pick, it was made for fighting. Certain types of fighters are forged in these situations. Some you never actually get to fight because they are never in the fight, mostly above it waiting. Now, don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with taking up a boom and zoom plane and cherry picking every now and then, but for that to be your MO every moment your're logged on is definitely lame! I believe that actually fighting a co-alt co-E fight is much more rewarding than 1000 cherry picks. Let's not condone "flying smart" to the point where it adversely affects what this game was made for, "dogfighting"! I mean if we all flew to where we would never be in danger of getting shot down, then everyone would be at 30K flying away from each other!:aok
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Well, the part about each flight being sacred might have been a little much but I do agree. It's all about being able to accept the fact that YOU made a mistake (trust me, I know all about making mistakes in this game).
Well said.
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Good advise, should be applied to all of life, not just the game.
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So who wants to bet they can maintain being master of their domain the longest...:D
Good post Zazen, all noobs read and memorize. We all get frustrated and need to remember this post before we lash out.
Also when you die don't look at it as something bad that happened to you, look at it as something enjoyable you did for someone else. That should get a few of you through LOLH.:aok:D
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nice Zaz.:aok
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Allow me to clarify in response to what Filth and Skyrock said. By taking responsibility for outcomes I was not insinuating necessarily flying to survive above all other concerns, albeit that could be construed as this concept carried to the far extreme end of the spectrum. I will be the first to admit while I may only die a couple of times a tour, I learn far more from those few deaths than a hundred landed sorties in most cases.
By making oneself accountable and not externalizing resonsibility for what happens to you in-flight you gain a unique perspective, an objective one, affording you an opportunity to fathom greater insight into the dynamics of what caused the outcome whether it was a positive or negative one. This enriches your library of experience, you can draw on it anytime you wish to avoid repeating mistakes
Conversely, if you are a 'hapless victim' then your perspective is purely subjective, everyone is doing unto you, you are no longer an active participant in your own mind, you are an object and the outcomes are a result of actions perpetrated against you. That mentality is a disempowering one that leads to alot of whining, needless animosity and a general mind-set not at all conducive to learning, which in and of itself accentuates the feeling of victimization.
A healthy way to think of AH is like winning the lottery. For example, say I won a million dollars. I sit the pile of cash in my living room and admire it. It really has no value of its own, only by virtue of the buying power it represents. So, the money is like a player in the hanger who hasn't chosen a plane yet. Now, once you spend that money the value becomes the actual manifestation of its potential, it's totally open ended, you can do with it what you please. This is like a flight in AH. I could choose to invest it wisely or I could choose to buy a Kilo of Peruvian cocaine, throw a party, and blame the cocaine dealer when my heart explodes.
I would conservatively estimate 90% of all voices of discontent, posts and rantings on 200, are from those which would, with their last dying gasp, vehemently blame the cocaine dealer for their untimely demise. So, even had they not actually died from their reckless abandon they would have gleened nothing from the negative experience, become none the wiser, doomed to perpetually repeat their actions. Just like the hapless victim in AH who blames everyone else when they get HO'd, rammed, vulched, gang-raped, cherry-picked etc...A wise person would learn from it and never need to repeat the experience, holding themselves exclusively accountable for the outcomes...
Zazen
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stares blanky at monitor.
drools.
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Watch out we are making sense here. Zazen SkyRock I new you guys were wicked smart
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Ahhh, an existentialist. Mssrs Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, and Sartre....meet Zazen. :aok
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Spot on Zazen.
I have always said much the same thing.
Actually brought up a similar point last night on chn 200.
Got HO'd? That is your fault your are in the position to be HO'd.
Got Cherrypicked? Again, your fault you are in that position.
Got GangBanged? Why did you allow yourself to be in that position?
If any of those things happen to me, I know it's 100% because I put my self in a position for that to happen.
90% of my deaths (if not more) are because I screwed up.
MY fault.
My choice.
Good stuff Zazen, i've said similar (with much smaller words of course) for years.
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Was a little let down after reading the thread title -- thought it was about something completely different, as any Seinfeld fan could tell you.
[/start old codger speech]
Culture of Blame adds immensely to our woes, both individually and nationally. Responsibility and integrity would remake the world....
.....and even more importantly, improve the AH experience!
[/end old codger speech]
Unfortunately, the guys who most need the message don't have the insight and self awareness to realize it applies to them!
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While I largely agree I don't think that the player can assume 100% accountability all of the time. An example would be the poor soul who first drove past a windmill and got shot by someone hiding inside. The accountability for that rests with HTC for allowing such a bug to exist. Now that the bug has been made public however, you drive past windmills at your own risk.
To a lesser degree, you may be a good enough pilot to always win in a one on two, therefore flying into one is a good choice until the day that you do it against two superior pilots. Did you put yourself in that position? Yes. Experience told you that it was a good choice but you had no way of judging your oponents until you were engaged. I'd say accountability in this situation is somewhat less than 100%. The luck of the draw worked against you.
Last weekend I was flying a Spit V and engaged a P-38G. While it was my fault for not realizing it, I was out of cannon rounds and down to peashooters when I engaged. Regardless, I got a few pings on the guy until my peashooters ran out then kept chasing him around. When we engaged we were the only two planes within several sectors. Even once out of ammo we remained engaged with me on his six for probably five minutes. The total engagement was probably 10 minutes. In the interim a countryman upped from a field a sector away and flew to the area we were in. I mentioned that I was out of ammo and simply chasing the P-38 when my fellow countryman dropped in to finish him off. Was it the P-38 pilots "fault" that he was engaged for such a long period that another was able to join the fight? Had I been in a less agile aircraft he might have quickly won and been on his way. Although he should have realized I was out of ammo and disregareded my chase had that not been the case then his decision would have been a bad one. Again I submit that luck of the draw played a role several times in this encounter.
The best pilots in this game are those who best play the odds; flying here vs. flying there, aircraft vs. aircraft, tactic vs. tactic but there is inevitably a factor of luck that cannot be controlled by the player. Because of this the player can never assume 100% accountability for the outcome of his flight. He can only work to improve his odds and avoid mistakes.
I was in an extended one on three one day against a 109, a 110 and something else in a Spit IX. I got all three and was flying home with over half my ammo remaining and my drop tank still attached when the 109 pilot 200'd me "Spit dweeb"! Clearly someone who felt he was a victim as maybe he should. Was his decision to engage me with two of his friends along a poor choice? Probably not given his past experiences but he probably wasn't expecting someone who's spent years flying Spitfires. Again, luck of the draw.
I also agree that pushing the envelope is the most rewarding learning experience. At it's extreme playing the odds would keep you out of any multi-plane engagements. It's in a one on two or three or even in a furball that you learn a lot about yourself, your abilities and your planes abilities that can be put to use another day.
That said, when luck works against you, whining about it is a worthless use of time and energy. That's where you should learn from the experience, pick up the pieces (almost literally) and go back out with new knowledge.
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nice points Zazen.
... but way too much trying to sound smart with all the clunky, oft unused words and run-on sentences :)
This one's my fav:
"Part of that culture includes the epiphany of sorts bestowed upon us through experience whereby we realize that everything that happens to us in game is a direct result of decisions we ourselves make at critical junctures during a flight."
P.S. - stay away from me in that Typhoon of yours!
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Originally posted by Zazen13
At the risk of surmonizing I would like to discuss, as the title suggests, taking personal responsibility for outcomes. As we get an ever-increasing influx of newer players, especially those in the younger demographic, it becomes increasingly important, as veterans, to do our part to instill in them some of that accrued community culture....
:aok Great post Zazen.
Cheers,
asw
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Originally posted by Casper1
... but way too much trying to sound smart with all the clunky, oft unused words and run-on sentences :)
Wasn't going to say anything, but since it came up:
Short words are best and the old words when short are best of all.
---Winston Churchill
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Originally posted by Casper1
nice points Zazen.
... but way too much trying to sound smart with all the clunky, oft unused words and run-on sentences :)
Actually, that's just the way I talk, I grew up without television so ended up reading alot...I gave up on the smart thing a long time ago. I've long since resigned myself to my plight as a mere dolt in this world. ;)
In any event please focus the discussion on the message rather than the messenger, I believe alot of the community's woes lie therein...
Zazen
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Let me clear the air on how I feel about the topic. I agree with your post 100%, Zaz. It's great advice to live by even in teh real world. But in this game situation, we need not let off the hook those who play so cheaply, by admonishing the "hapless victim" and his cry of foul! Of course it is his mistake he died. I would give 1000 safely landed timid gang dweebs for one fearless fighter! I know from my experiences, it is so incredibly hard to get people to risk their virtual planes to fight, that one must litterally hang their 6 out to dry in front of peeps to even get them to come close enough to shoot, that is unless they have 6 friends around, then they miraculously become very aggressive. So your advice would have been much more relatable to the game had you just said, "Chill on the whines!" I will, however, give you a 10 on the positive nature of the post and it's overall real life enlightenment!
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Mark
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Well said, Zazen, I knew a lot of new words :) And it's correct if we are talking about whining and blaming on ch200.
But I agree with BaldEagl.
It would be great if everybody blames only himself for outcomes of his actions. But it is impossible to convince anybody to blame only himself for everything what happens with him.
In point of fact it's just wishful thining. People in general and AH players in particular will never get full responsibility for outcomes of their own actions only. It's against human nature. And direct way to asylum, btw. Blaming circumstances, luck, others is some kind of psychological defence.
Look, we make decision at certain moment of time and in certain circumstances, and we really do believe that we've made the best choice in the sence of achieving our goals. But outcomes of our decisions depend not only on them but on the changes of environment/conditions/situation which happens later. And this is the basis where people can build their complaints.
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Originally posted by KONG1
Good advise, should be applied to all of life, not just the game.
I could not agree more!
I get so tired of watching the news at night, everybody wants to be the "victim" - gotta find a lawyer, gotta sue - can't be my fault, somebody's got to pay! You hurt my feelings - now I deserve to get rich. . . yadayadayada
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I would agree with most of that, except for the part about ganging. Dismissing the horde mindset as some fault of the victim's judgement is simply trying to blame someone else for their actions, which seems to be what you're decrying here.
Otherwise some good points. The overall attitudes I see lately, and the treatment and interaction of others is a bit lacking compared to the old days.
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Alot of it also has to do with how the game is designed. In WW2 a bunch of planes met, fought, withdrew. Here you can get into a fight with one guy, with a clear sky. The fight can last a few minutes. Suddenly 2 dots appear...enemy. Here you have had this good fight, and suddenly its 3 to 1.
Do you now run and not finish such a good fight? Now lets say you kill the first guy, and the other 2 rush in. You kill one of them but are now on the deck. While fighting the last guy, you see the first guy you killed barreling in to get revenge. Behind him comes the other guy you killed.
You finish off the third guy and try to get some speed up to gain separation but the guy is gaining. He forces a fight. His bud is coming fast. Its times like that, that gets my blood pumping. Its the game I love. Ya, historically you probably would'nt get such a conga line, and more of a squad on squad battle, but its a rush.
I think that people play the game differently. While some would avoid those situations like the plague, others seek them out. I don't think its so much what you do in the game, as one man's defensive SA, is another's "baiting the trap", its more of how those people react to the outcome. Some people will never take defeat well. Who knows..its how they were raised? Only child spoiled rotten always got what he wanted? Beats me. But for as many players there are in this game, and as much crap as you see on 200, its usually the same people doing the complaining. I think the majority are good players and folks.
In the end its how you play YOUR game, and how you accept victory and defeat.
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Alright allready, I admit it, I SUCK!! lol :) good post.:D
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I have long held the same general opinion expressed by Zazen in this post.
Zazen!
When it comes to a "smart" flying strategy, or a "risk it all" strategy, I don't think it can or should be seperated quite to the extent expressed by some.
There is a lot of middle ground to play with. Personally, I want to defeat my opponents- that is my goal. So I fly somewhat "smart". However- I don't want to beat them because all the variable's are in my favor, whether it be #'s, altitude, speed, etc. So I try to set up engagements that are somewhat even, and challenging. I don't mind being disadvantaged, and will often set myself up that way purposely. Baiting the trap was a good way to describe it. I hunt IRL as a major pasttime. But I do it with a flintlock rifle and/or a redtail hawk. Why do it if you need all the advantages of modern technology?
At the same time, I'm not going to fly "stupid", just to give someone else the satisfaction of beating me. No matter what the situation, I'm going to try to come out of it the victor. What is the fun of beating someone if they aren't also trying to win. I don't feel I need to land all the time, and my stats will show I die the majority of my hops. But winning IS my goal, so landing will come hand in hand with that. Anybody can go find a furball and die in it. It takes more brain-power to come out alive. Unless of course you just hang out and wait for cherries.
Most chnl 200 whining is baseless anyway. I took off from a field a few days ago, with a fully fueled corsair. A higher, lighter, better turning plane(KI-84) was above me, chasing a friendly. The friendly died, at which point the enemy plane dropped onto my six. The fight was running East/West, so I "ran" North. I was purposely dragging this con out to a "private" fight, out of line of the furball. Also realize that this was the only enemy in sight, with about eight friendlies nearby, not to mention ack, etc.
So, I'm on the deck, with a KI-84 on my six D1000 back. It would have been pointless for me to try to beat him immediately, so why try? Even if I had tried, and lived a bit, he would have been ganged. Where's the fun there? One friendly asked if I needed help, and I told him TY, but no I was fine. So I dragged him out of icon range of the field, where we could both have a higher quality fight. He wouldn't get ganged, and I'd have some speed to manuever. He came on chnl 200 and cried because I was running away, and wouldn't fight without an advantage. He also mentioned how I would always run to friends and wouldn't fight alone. As soon as we were out of icon range of my countrymen, I let him overshoot, and smoked his engine. He promptly inverted his plane and bailed. Who has the advantage in fight like this? Our social structure is making it difficult for Darwin's theory to come to fruition nowadays I think. My personal opinion is that folks like this would have been trampled by a mammoth in the old days.
Personally, I would much prefer to fight someone else who is using their brain and putting up a challenging fight. If they are getting beat, and have the opportunity to extend and re-engage, then they should. They don't need to head to the next county, but extending out 2-3K is reasonable. Beating some of the more skilled pilots in this game is where the most satisfaction comes from. But not when they are helpless. What is the point?
MtnMan
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Originally posted by Zazen13
At the risk of surmonizing I would like to discuss, as the title suggests, taking personal responsibility for outcomes. As we get an ever-increasing influx of newer players, especially those in the younger demographic, it becomes increasingly important, as veterans, to do our part to instill in them some of that accrued community culture. Part of that culture includes the epiphany of sorts bestowed upon us through experience whereby we realize that everything that happens to us in game is a direct result of decisions we ourselves make at critical junctures during a flight. To put this more succinctly, we are all 100% responsible for what happens to us, noone else, under any circumstances, ever..
Don't believe that?
I suggest in the hanger we are all equal, potential energy waiting to burst forth into the MA. We all have the same planes to choose from (relative perk balances notwithstanding). We all have total control over what country we fly for, whom we fly with, where we fly, how we fly, when and even if we fly. The moment we select a plane and take-off the outcome of that flight becomes the sum of all factors resulting from every decision we make starting with plane selection. If you get gang-banged, vulched, HO'd, rammed, cherry picked, bounced or just plain outflown, it's a direct result of decisions you made starting with which plane you chose and the manner in which you chose to fly it.
I know that is a tough pill to swallow, and those who haven't had their epiphany will still be mired in the murky sea of denial that is what I affectionately term , "The hapless victim syndrome", but it is true. There are no hapless victims in AH, if you truly believe you are the victim of some dastardly tactic, scheme, manuever, legitimate or not, you are in denial..plain and simple. To put this even more harshly, every negative outcome you experience in the game is entirely self-inflicted...
Once people accept that they are the master of their own virtual fate in the skies, certain things will start to happen. There will be alot less whining, there will be more mutual respect, there will be a greater sense of purpose with each flight, and ultimately, if understood by a great enough percentage of the population, a much more positive gaming environment for everyone. Therefore, everyone will have alot more fun and we will atrract and retain more new players/customers.
I think the problem and thus the impediment to attaining the epiphany for some is a stubborn reluctance to place value on the quality of their experience on the individual level of each flight all the way to how they approach the game in general. When goals are set that have nothing to do with the intrinsic value of each flight there is no culpability and mutual responsibility for actions and resultant outcomes. That is the biggest difference that seperates this genre of the past to that of today. Each flight is sacred if one truly quests to grow, in terms of self-fullfillment, in this genre. Each flight is an unique opportunity to learn and develop skills thru infinite variety of experience. By not accepting responsibilty for outcomes you are robbing yourself of your fleeting chance to learn from the decisions you make and the subsequent carefull observation of the insuing cause and effect relationships of those decisions and outcomes..Please don't be a perennial victim...Make a conscious decision to be The Master of Your Domain!
Zazen
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Allow me to clarify in response to what Filth and Skyrock said. By taking responsibility for outcomes I was not insinuating necessarily flying to survive above all other concerns, albeit that could be construed as this concept carried to the far extreme end of the spectrum. I will be the first to admit while I may only die a couple of times a tour, I learn far more from those few deaths than a hundred landed sorties in most cases.
By making oneself accountable and not externalizing resonsibility for what happens to you in-flight you gain a unique perspective, an objective one, affording you an opportunity to fathom greater insight into the dynamics of what caused the outcome whether it was a positive or negative one. This enriches your library of experience, you can draw on it anytime you wish to avoid repeating mistakes
Conversely, if you are a 'hapless victim' then your perspective is purely subjective, everyone is doing unto you, you are no longer an active participant in your own mind, you are an object and the outcomes are a result of actions perpetrated against you. That mentality is a disempowering one that leads to alot of whining, needless animosity and a general mind-set not at all conducive to learning, which in and of itself accentuates the feeling of victimization.
A healthy way to think of AH is like winning the lottery. For example, say I won a million dollars. I sit the pile of cash in my living room and admire it. It really has no value of its own, only by virtue of the buying power it represents. So, the money is like a player in the hanger who hasn't chosen a plane yet. Now, once you spend that money the value becomes the actual manifestation of its potential, it's totally open ended, you can do with it what you please. This is like a flight in AH. I could choose to invest it wisely or I could choose to buy a Kilo of Peruvian cocaine, throw a party, and blame the cocaine dealer when my heart explodes.
I would conservatively estimate 90% of all voices of discontent, posts and rantings on 200, are from those which would, with their last dying gasp, vehemently blame the cocaine dealer for their untimely demise. So, even had they not actually died from their reckless abandon they would have gleened nothing from the negative experience, become none the wiser, doomed to perpetually repeat their actions. Just like the hapless victim in AH who blames everyone else when they get HO'd, rammed, vulched, gang-raped, cherry-picked etc...A wise person would learn from it and never need to repeat the experience, holding themselves exclusively accountable for the outcomes...
Zazen
That's a lot of words.
I would have just said, "Quit your B-iching."
But your wall of text works well too. :p
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well said, very true.
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Very well put!!!
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Well thought out...Thanks for a flash of reality...
If you get yourself shot down it was your own fault for getting in that position.
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Well said Zazen.
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Well said, I need to send my whole squad here to read this one!!
Best thread yet. :aok
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BRAVO Zazen very well said sir!
This is an online flight sim, everyone dies, yes even HT.
Secret is to learn from it, try not to make THAT Mistake again.
If you died you made a mistake someplace, even if it was just leaving the hanger. :) On the other hand just because someone happened to kill you this time doesn't mean they "own" you. Doesn't make them a better player. We are ALL on this journey, enjoy the trip!
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Originally posted by Ghosth
BRAVO Zazen very well said sir!
This is an online flight sim, everyone dies, yes even HT.
Secret is to learn from it, try not to make THAT Mistake again.
If you died you made a mistake someplace, even if it was just leaving the hanger. :) On the other hand just because someone happened to kill you this time doesn't mean they "own" you. Doesn't make them a better player. We are ALL on this journey, enjoy the trip!
SkyRock<----owns Ghost!
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outstanding!!! great post!!!!
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the only hope you have is to accept the fact that you're already dead. And the sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll be able to function as a soldier is supposed to function. Without mercy. Without compassion. Without remorse. All war depends upon it.
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Great post. I can't help but wonder if the young folks that are playing now are so use to the play station games that are beatable, that they can't handle an enemy with a mind of it's own!
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Zazen.......Best dam post ever! Dam Straight!
Your welcome to fly with tatertot and I any time!..want to jion our squad ..your IN! You the Boss!
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