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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Wilbus on April 24, 2007, 08:53:12 AM
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Uhm, what happen to the veterans in Knitland?
I haven't been on all that much myself lately however I have noticed that old timers have been very scarce, atleast in knitland. Just don't see as many good old names as I used to (those who change names I usually know about).
I do notice A WHOLE LOT of new people though (good thing for HTC).
I changed to Bish a few days ago and I've been flying with bish for a couple of days, not saying I will stay bish but so far I enjoy it more. Why? There is a very very big difference between playing style. I am getting 6 calls from people I don't know or have flown with before, I hear people give 6 calls all the time, radio chatter is more frequent then it ever was on knits. So I am kind of impressed...
So my question... during the past few weeks or maybe months where I haven't flown much... WTH happened to Knits?
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I first used to fly bish, then as a nit.After some time i started switching countries in a constant search of furball and targets.And i can say all the countries are the same, every country has people that do check your 6, whiners, good pilots etc.
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I'll flop back and forth tween rooks and knits, but I will never fly bish...
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Actually duh, not all countries are the same. They USED to be the same (I've been here since the start).
However as of lately the knits (during my flight hours atelast) have hit rock bottom. I'm just sad and surprised I hardly see any vets there anymore, maybe just temporary, I hope so.
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Originally posted by SKurj
I'll flop back and forth tween rooks and knits, but I will never fly bish...
Chess piece-ist?
:noid
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Damn when will i become one of those vets??Do i have to beat someone?;)
I find these "vets" in every country.Only thing i find different is the amount of missions.Bishops make much more missions than any other country.Is it because new people like to stay bishops for some time and are amazed at missions?
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You still don't understand me do you?
I never said there aren't any vets in the other knits anymore, I am just saying there are way less then there used to be, atleast that's been the way these past weeks.
And just to make sure you stop saying bish only I'll add Rooks to that too as I still see alot of old timers there.
Yes you may become a vet in the future if you stay a couple of years more :p
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uh.... double post.
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Maybe they have been driven away by the ever increasing whining on countrychannel?
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Could be they just rotated countries for ENY reasons?
Well, as for vox, I mostly chatter away on squad chan. I'd presume many folks do the same. Might reduce the amount of range chatter, which can be good at times.
I've not really noticed a decline, per se, of the older names in-game, but then I've been too busy myself to log many hours outside of weekends! Keep in mind it's also Spring, when folks do more outdoors activities, instead of PC activities.
IMO the problem with knits as a country isn't the lack of 6 calls (those are a gift anyways, should not be expected or demanded), or the lack of chatter, or the lack of old pals, it's that they enjoy the fight too much and don't bother to defend or attack or follow through in any coordinated manner :t
I can say this because I've been flying with 'em for a while (no fanatical affiliation, my squad is here so I am). There've been many times when we've had 50 folks over a field, totally suppressing that field, completely dominating that field, TRYING to take the town down, but failing hopelessly for over an hour, at which point wave after wave of enemy pour in from the next sector and break the attack. I've seen that far too many times on this team. Nothing I can do about it, so I gave up trying. That's another matter, though.
IMO I like that I don't have to squelch folks on range when I'm trying to hear squad, and I get more than a few check6s from folks around me (not counting squaddies), and I give them almost always. I've had no complaints about knits, other than the aforementioned lack of organizational competency :t :t :t
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Actually duh, not all countries are the same. They USED to be the same (I've been here since the start).
However as of lately the knits (during my flight hours atelast) have hit rock bottom. I'm just sad and surprised I hardly see any vets there anymore, maybe just temporary, I hope so.
I've noticed that lately, if not all of the time, knits are often at the sharp end of the poo-covered numbers stick (edit- at the times I'm playing), and I have to wonder if the vets just aren't flying much. I still see some folks I recognize, but not very many.
I change sides often as well, and I would agree with the observation that the countries are pretty much the same. The only thing that seems to separate them, is the numbers. I really see no particular identity or tendencies that can be attributed to the country as a whole.
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I normally find the low number side in one of the arena...be it knit or rook...with occasional bish.
I try to stick to low number side, but sometimes to fly with squaddie ill fly with mid number side.
its more of a numbers thing for me, rather than an "identity" thing with the country.
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I love my Cheese piece :noid :noid When do you need 6 call WilBuz:eek:
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In general Wilbus, I would agree. As of late the Knit's do seem to have had an influx of noobs. I would postulate (darn you Zazen) that this is cyclical, and all sides go through this.
LAST night however, I logged on and was party to 3-4 incredible base defenses, and subsequent fight's afterwards. Was some REALLY good stuff. The same handful of knit's helped me defend a few fields where we were hoplessly outnumberd, and we held.
A28 last night on TT map for example. I logged on to find an nme cv in spitting distance of the town @ a28 with the town basically down and a good dozen nme planes in the air and lvt's otw.
I rolled an ostwind for town and not once, but twice managed to kill the nme LVT in the town as they let out troops. (I think 6-7 troops total made it) 12 kills and many a plea on Country for help later, we held. A good group o' Knits showed up @ a28 and we started pushing 'em back. Eventually the nme CV got sunk, and when the smoke cleared the base had remained Knit. Was a hectic 45+ min fight. One of the better i've seen in a good while.
Then that same group headed east and proceeded to beat the snot out of the nme in a fantastic furball. Again, good stuff.
RIGHT about then on another part of the map we had yet another nme cv right off shore and out went the call for help. AGAIN the knit's ralleyed, held, and won the fight.
(there were a couple other base saves and great fights when out #'d by the nme thrown in there. I had a blast)
Was one of the better night's i've had flying in a good while. I died a few times, killed lots, and had a blast the whole time.
But all in all I hear ya'. I too have been gettin' a bit frustrated as of late.
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I don't know if you qualify me as a "Vet" but I'm still here, just temporarily flying under different name. :)
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I know what you're saying Wilbus -- noticed it some myself.
I'm no ace, but I've played for a while -- mostly flying lone wolf but also with squaddies. Lately I've wanted to wing up with an experienced pilot or two to do whatever...not caring whether we flew fighter sweeps, defended bases, took bases, who cares -- just wanted to do something fun and do it well.
Tried that for about a week, never hooking up with anyone I recognized. When I logged on to Uterus, and saw the rooks had fights going near A1/A19 axis, I went there and immediately found guys I knew and planty of co-op activity.
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I switched from Knights to Bishops a few months back and I noticed that exact same thing.
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quote:Originally posted by SKurj
I'll flop back and forth tween rooks and knits, but I will never fly bish...
Chess piece-ist?
The Bish move diagonally, don't you know?
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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couldn't tell you who I flew for this morning or at lunch, I fly a green plane and shoot at red ones .. the rest is not important to me
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Its been a slow decline for knitland over the past few months, maybe even year. Seemed to start when a few of the larger, more vet squads switched countries. I think I have been playing for 2 years now, and when I first joined with the knits, they rocked the MAs much more often then they do now. I hear this is a cyclical thing...we shall see!!
There are the ever-faithful knits who do their darndest to get the knit populace working together and communicating, but it doesnt happen often anymore.
I did like what I saw in LWBlue last night though. Good stuff from knitland.
A Big to Floatsup and the (+) crew for some good missions. Wish there were missions out the wazoo more often!
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Knights couldn't fight their way out of a wet newspaper anymore.
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Originally posted by REP0MAN
Chess piece-ist?
Yep, I was... Will not consider flying elsewhere.
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When I had 4 guys in the "Crazy Diamonds", we'd hop countries to help the "short stack" at that time.
Now, I have returned to Nazgul and they are a Rook squad. I will STILL hop countries if I see friends on (The Flying Circus, need to wing with Lute again, etc.).
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Ive noticed the same thing Wil. I usually switch between rooks and nits but now that I am finding that I switch to bish instead of nits. Bish just seem to give more 6s, provide help more, and dont seem to kill fights as often. I usually switch to the side that needs more help/small numbers or just happen to have big furball.
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Nothing to post really. Just getting thr junior out. No vet Member here?
:D
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I just found player's STATISTICS can be found at http://www.hitechcreations.com under the COMMUNITY pulldown menu, Scores, "Kill Stats in Expanded format".
On the bottom of that breakdown list, it shows how many kills a player experienced as a Knight, Rook or Bish.
Interesting.
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Yes, that's been there for ages :aok
I like it because I can check which aircraft I gravitate towards.
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Still here,
C-HAWKS are still Knit and always focused on helping the team. Myself, I'm finding myself in furball mode lately. I'll help my squaddies on attack/capture missions when asked most of the time. I love base defense against superior numbers, and yes, it seems that we are consistently outnumbered and ganged by the bish/rooks since the arena split. Maybe thats the reason you notice fewer "vets", maybe not.
I will tell you that from my perspective, these maps are utterly fossilized and in desperate need of replacement. No, I'm not going to build any myself so I won't whine. I'll just keep furballing over TT or fighting the numbers to try to bust the enemy cap over one of our fields. These are about the only aspects I find much fun in lately.
I too took about a 10 month sojourn from the game and am back other than helping my squad part time in ww2online.
It is all cyclical yes, but this is a different game than it used to be.
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Originally posted by Its_a_game
I just found player's STATISTICS can be found at http://www.hitechcreations.com under the COMMUNITY pulldown menu, Scores, "Kill Stats in Expanded format".
On the bottom of that breakdown list, it shows how many kills a player experienced as a Knight, Rook or Bish.
Interesting.
Yep... I spread mine around evenly...
Bishop 0 22
Knight 47 0
Rook 0 25
:)
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Well atleast I am not the only one feeling/thinking this way ;)
Krusty, I am one of those no good darned furballers. That's not my problem though: No problem at all really.
I just wanted to throw out a question to see if anyone else was noticing a decline in vet numbers, be it nit och bish or rook ar whatever.
Scot, well, I rearely need a 6 call nor do I expect one. However I was just so surprised to be overwhelmed by 6 calls when I flew bish that I had to brind it up. It could very well be that there are so many n00bs in knitland at the moment.
I've been a hardcore knit for ever (almost) but have started switching more often, specielly since the country change time was lowerd from 12 hours to 1 hour (excellent move HTC).
I have long time friend in for all the chess piece countries and I am only sad that I can't fly and wing with them all at the same time.
Simaril, that's exaclty what I mean. Every time I've come online over the years there's been players online whom I've known pretty well. Wether I've winged up with them or not is another question. But just flying in the same fight has given me alot of fun.
During the years the companionship of long time (albeit "internet") friends have given me more fun and enjoyment then any game could ever do. Hell, some of the guys, Ghosth for example has been around since I started flying Warbirds back in 1995 (I was 12 years old at the moment, I was almost raised by some of the online flightsim junkies).
So that's what I am really asking for... while alot of you are still here and make my enjoyment in AH so much better... where did my other friends go? :(
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Uhm come to to think of it, the split up arenas (although good in many aspects) is probarly a big bad guy in this discussion.
Before we were all gathered in one arena, now we are split up in (mainly) 2 arenas + a quite small percentage in the early and mid war arenas. Guess I may be chosing the wrong arena from time to time and have too many friends to search for.
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I can't say for sure, as I don't know who you're thinking, but there have been a lot of folks that left, got banned from the forums (and then left), left because CT isn't out, left because the arena split, left because they burnt out, left because they flew for the horde and couldn't take low ENY planes, etc.
I know what you mean about flying with certain folks. Even if I'm just in the same fight as some guys (not even winging up, mind you!) I seem to have more fun. I had noticed a bit of a decline, but I thought it was just that my flight-time was cut way back since the new job and crappy hours.
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Rooks are the best country if you want to score hore and be an astronaut, and a lot of good people are rooks.but the take it way to serous they really don't need missions to take bases,they just tend to fly together.the bish are second,only thing wrong with them is they depend on 1 or 2 people to take a base and the rest of the bish follow,bish have the most fun,but the don't GIVE 6 CALLS a lot. knights are well the bottom of the bucket,not a lot of good people their and only a few descent squads,and most knights are squeakers. now this is just my thought on this.And if you dont like what i put get over it :aok .
country order:
1. Rooks
2. Bish
3. knights
~VansCrew~
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I think there may also be a few of us with names you don't know...
Be nice if HTC would set accounts to inactive permitting players to come back to the game and not mess around getting their handle back...
I've done it so many times, I just about can't be bothered this time... so flyin Sporadic
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Originally posted by Its_a_game
I just found player's STATISTICS can be found at http://www.hitechcreations.com under the COMMUNITY pulldown menu, Scores, "Kill Stats in Expanded format".
On the bottom of that breakdown list, it shows how many kills a player experienced as a Knight, Rook or Bish.
Interesting.
In deed, just chekked, all my kills are as knight, all deads as knits. Tend to kill more bishops than rooks too.
:p
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any spell checker in these foruns?
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lotta old timers went at the arena re-shuffle.
:confused:
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Hey Wilb,
you are right, older vets no more showing here.....
I am playing AH until 99 as a knight, maybe I can be considered a vet (not for my statistisc only for a matter of time spend in AH ;) ) , and I am flying only occasionally at the moment.
Why???
Well, I find furballin boring after some time, old strategy is dead, trying to win the war has no more sense, any strategic option has been frustrated, and for this reason many of us has left....
My squad has left for other sims, and so has happened to many vets; you know Wilb all those guys who we were flying with, it was a pleasure winging with them, I recall winging with many good sticks, covering our six, enjoying group tactics......
Well I find this is all faded away now; I'm not accusing Knights now to be not collaborative but that "old spirit" is gone..... and maybe its only me having lost that enthusiasm.
But my feelings seems to be common to many old players.
Some choices have changed this simulation into a game for me. Still I don't blame AH for this, its their job, their sim, and their business; I still consider they have made a great work, but this is not the sim I used to play and I used to enjoy some years ago.
I'm still here nevertheless, even if with a cut down to minimum activity, waiting for good news
Maybe others have choose other options
Wilb take care
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BUT, I digress
Im a knight, left a squad who went bish last may, and just happy with my chess piece I guess. Got so comfortable made a squad, after what I was seeing, in the past 3 months. At first I thought it was true that the knights tended to get the newly influx of players. I know this not to be the case, but I actually couldnt believe what I was seeing was, IMHO, a total lack of coordination. This has nothing to do with any other squads on the knights, t just somehow, people were just flying and doing their own thing, and more and more and more bases, were just getting ganged over, with no stop. Hence made a bomber orientated squad for base capturing, because this s the game style I enjoy. So I sought out like minded people, and well were doing ok. I cant speak for the whole country because everyone plays differently. Me, I suck at acm, Ive been playing over a year and half, still havent been with a trainer. But I up and fly my best that I can with studying moves, amovies, reading. the hardest for me is putting it together. BUT the thing that I get off on, is stratagy, and thats what this game is for me. IF I can grab a base, in front of the other teams wide open eyes, dig it, im down with it. If I can do it while their looking the other way.
:t
But heres what Im seeing, and I may be totally off here.
1. 3-30 knights chasing one plane. Ive shot myself down numerous times so far when Im engauaged, because someone is so damn greedy, or I dont know what.
2. Check sixes. This is just plane rude. Either the people dont have mics, or dont know the damn key. I try to educate everyone this. This isnt a rant, but a known fact, when you turn around as u drift backwards without a tail and see 2-4,5 people chasing the plane you were. This I think, almost made me jump countries 2 months back. We stayed because we put it to a vote in the squad, and its all for 1--1 for all. Now there are certantly people who do give checks, I try to all the time, but again, the bottom line, is its you arse, cover it.
3. Same maps. OVer and over, and over, and over, and over. The same tactics, the same flight plans, the same thing. Boring.
4. And definitly Areana cap/split
Now, I have been working with alot of squads on the knights, and I have a blast. I may not play like everyone on the knights, and I dont want to. I play to win, plain and simple. Thats what keeps me paying.
Ofcourse at the begining and the end of the night I like to just go up,
and furball around. and sometimes, Im really not in the mood to do anything. Its those times, that I like to think of something outragious, and get some people together, and try it out. See where it failed, and then get it worked out, to a precise base take. Now that my friends is kewl.
Anyway long winded, I step off the soap dish, and slip out the door. C U all the air. :p
ps
I think the nits are better today then 3-6 months ago., we just gotta keep it together sometimes. And thank you very much for the Shout Casper1
to you to Sir
Cheers
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Originally posted by stegor
....Some choices have changed this simulation into a game for me. Still I don't blame AH for this, its their job, their sim, and their business; I still consider they have made a great work, but this is not the sim I used to play and I used to enjoy some years ago....
Stegor, this is what has caused our squad to diminish from 23 to 11 members, 1 of which is maintained posthumously and only 5 of which fly regularly.
I've watched it happen to other 10 year+ squads and it is sad.
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ours has gone from 32 members and full squad participation down to about 7 on squad nights now
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Wil...
Play time has been a bit short for me the last couple of months (reality rears it's ugly head :)). But, when I do play, I enjoy the EW/MW arenas. Lots of noobs there that I can 'assist' and occasionally a good driver will show up and hand me pieces of my nether region to prove that I'm not really very good. :)
As a guy who played AW in the day of the arena limits of 32, I find it reminds me of the 'old days'.
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Originally posted by stegor
Well, I find furballin boring after some time, old strategy is dead, trying to win the war has no more sense, any strategic option has been frustrated,
well said!
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Originally posted by stegor
Well, I find furballin boring after some time, old strategy is dead, trying to win the war has no more sense, any strategic option has been frustrated,
I still do see map resets. That means there is someone winning the maps, so I don't see how "trying to win the war has no more sense" ?
The only old strategy that was really killed: Always the same two countries constantly hammering on the third one, map resets and the same gangbang starts again. Now to win the war you have at one point to stop beating up a country already laying on the ground and go fight someone else...
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I've always been a Bish and was always an AZ in AW.
From my perspective the Knights seem to have an over-abundance of noobs. It's like they sign up for the game, stick with the Knights until they learn a few things then jump ship and are replaced with more baby seals.
Rooks seem to have the most experienced players and they seem to work well together. The alt-monkey as a group thing gets a little annoying as an opposing player though.
Bish seem to be somewhere in the middle but lean toward the more experienced side. We can sometimes work well together strategically but almost always communicate well in a big fight. I think because of this Bish sometimes seem to simply ignore the map opting instead for the biggest fight.
Just my one-sided observations.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Uhm, what happen to the veterans in Knitland?
I haven't been on all that much myself lately however I have noticed that old timers have been very scarce, atleast in knitland. Just don't see as many good old names as I used to (those who change names I usually know about).
I do notice A WHOLE LOT of new people though (good thing for HTC).
I changed to Bish a few days ago and I've been flying with bish for a couple of days, not saying I will stay bish but so far I enjoy it more. Why? There is a very very big difference between playing style. I am getting 6 calls from people I don't know or have flown with before, I hear people give 6 calls all the time, radio chatter is more frequent then it ever was on knits. So I am kind of impressed...
So my question... during the past few weeks or maybe months where I haven't flown much... WTH happened to Knits?
define "Old timers" please.
I'd like to know when I've made it ;)
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Keep in mind that numbers surely vary, but complete noobs are assigned to whatever country has the lowest numbers at the time they first log in. In an arena where the noobs start, see they're horribly outnumbered, and either log, change arenas, or change countries, they're setting up the next wave for the very same thing. To a degree, I think this explains the perception that all the noobs wind up in the same place.
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Originally posted by BaldEagl
I've always been a Bish and was always an AZ in AW.
:eek:
Bish = BZ I was never Bz and will never be Bish!!
I was a knit and a rook during a long time spent in the bucket when bish (and for that matter Bz) had the numbers for a looong time (1 yr+) for that reason I have a :mad: for bish. Tis nothing personal as I am sure you all understand +)
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must be the late hours i play but i always get in with guys newer than me and and most of the time getting gang banged(I play on the Bish side). The few times we aren't getting hammered were hammering the nits that have as many people as they do fields, makes no sence to me.
i might start switching sides even though my squad is bish, i'm starting not to have fun cause the only thing going on is a furball or base defense from a horde. only been playing since nov 06 but the first 3 months there were people actually capturing fields and maps being won by someone. i haven't seen a map won in 2 months.
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There are many great pilots still flying for the Knights (like ME!...heheh..heh?). I do agree that more noobs seem to be flooding the game, but it's not just on the knights.
Noobs are flooding all three countries, which is great for me since I need more easy targets to shoot at. :aok
About the bish....yea uh, ahem......no comment.
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<--Old Timer....Knight......Busy with real life.
No time to fly these days....and when I do fly it's usually not more than an hour or so.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
define "Old timers" please.
I'd like to know when I've made it ;)
Your 10k+ posts have made it already ;)
Hard to define who's a "vet" and who's not and kind of stupid to argue about it.
A year doesn't make you a vet in my eyes, that's still a n00b just to clearify a few things
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I'm a permanent newbie. Not to be confused with the lame l337 speak version called "n00b". :aok
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LOL
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I've jumped over to the knights side from time to time when their numbers are way too low. I've also noticed the lack of check 6's while on nit side.
I can also say there is a lot less check 6's lately on the Rooks side as well. I assume it's the influx of noobs. I'm a noob myself but I always give check 6's if I can.
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If there's a period of dweebdom you refer to as "the old days", you're a vet. And a dork.
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Originally posted by Krusty
I'm a permanent newbie. :aok
Same here;) ............... I just have not had time as of late to fly:cry
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lmfao Carl your crazy...wooty woot woot
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Okay, here's a simple low-down on what happened to the MA during the time you were away, Wil.
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The Bish-Borg Hive
The Bish, became a brain-less Borg horde who consistently walk in zombie-steps, chanting "resistance is futile"... except for some peculiar reason, they always seem to go hit only the places where there wasn't any people to resist in the first place. When you see a conga line of red dots on the map, you can bet your money that it's one of those Bish-Borg 'mishunz' targetting unpopulated areas on the map.
However, since they've now all assimiliated into a single-mind collective, if their "leaders" are not online to "guide" them they are about as interesting as ants on your front porch.
The Bashful Knits
I'm not entirely sure of what happened to the Knits, but it is as if all the fizz went out. Frankly, years ago I used to think the Knits above the Bish - the Bish were always numerous, but the Knit pilots were on average more deadly, IMO. At least, that's become a past tense, and in both late-war arenas the Knits are now under-manned as much as being under-skilled. For some reason the Knits have lost a massive number of veterans than compared to either Bish or Rooks, and this seems to have influenced their flying style - namely, bashful pilots singing and dancing to the tune going "timid and shy, and scared am I".
The Rook Snowball
The Rooks have now become the snowball. Our glorious past as a tightly-packed team is all but spent, and the proud tradition of the legendary RJO is now forever lost. We have no missions, we have no organiztion, we have no teamwork, we have no 'leader' squads, and no Napoleons... and yet we seem to be doing farely OK.
What we have now is an anarchistic collective of individual idiotas who love furballing, and if something fuels the fire then the Rooks start rolling rampage like a snowball going downhill in the land grab. We avalanche everything in our paths, until we go smack into a wall. Then everything stops and we melt away into nothingness, and then lose everything we've gained so far. The people disperse, gather up on the mountaintop again, and then starts the snowball again and again and again.
:D
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Okay, here's a simple low-down on what happened to the MA during the time you were away, Wil.
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The Bish-Borg Hive
The Bish, became a brain-less Borg horde who consistently walk in zombie-steps, chanting "resistance is futile"... except for some peculiar reason, they always seem to go hit only the places where there wasn't any people to resist in the first place. When you see a conga line of red dots on the map, you can bet your money that it's one of those Bish-Borg 'mishunz' targetting unpopulated areas on the map.
However, since they've now all assimiliated into a single-mind collective, if their "leaders" are not online to "guide" them they are about as interesting as ants on your front porch.
The Bashful Knits
I'm not entirely sure of what happened to the Knits, but it is as if all the fizz went out. Frankly, years ago I used to think the Knits above the Bish - the Bish were always numerous, but the Knit pilots were on average more deadly, IMO. At least, that's become a past tense, and in both late-war arenas the Knits are now under-manned as much as being under-skilled. For some reason the Knits have lost a massive number of veterans than compared to either Bish or Rooks, and this seems to have influenced their flying style - namely, bashful pilots singing and dancing to the tune going "timid and shy, and scared am I".
The Rook Snowball
The Rooks have now become the snowball. We have no missions, we have no organiztion, we have no 'leader' squads, and no Napoleons. What we have is an anarchistic collective of individual diots who love furballing, and if something fuels the fire then the Rooks start rolling like a snowball going downhill in the land grab. We avalanche everything in our paths, until we meet a wall, where we come to a stop, start melting helplessly, and then lose everything we've gained by coming downhill. The people disperse, gather up on the mountaintop, and then start the idiot process again and again and again. It's fun, but it's also brain-less. :D
I enjoy the "Snowball". I also enjoyed putting together the "Candy Mountain Mishun" with 47 Ju-87's in it. I've never been a Napolean, no desire to either.
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LOl Kweassa.
I actually used to think Bish had the largest numbers of low skill pilots compared to the other teams, however, for what I've seen these past few days/week the Knits have stolen that possition.
Like I said before, just miss the good old days and some of my good old friends.
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Oh... checked my numbers for this tour....
Kills of
Bish = 98
Knit = 22
Rook = 9 (I swapped from knit to rook a couple of days after rejoinin the game)
Kills as
Knit = 31
Rook = 98
Bish = 0
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Ive flown all three, and I must say, the rooks are by far the strongest, as far as loyalty and coordination. But as long as my squad commander (A true veteran, so they ARE still there, lol) stays Knight, I stand firm at his side.
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Originally posted by DaYooper
The Bish move diagonally, don't you know?
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Actually had fun at the land grab game last night!
took 3 fields down south on the TT map with the BOPS and friends defending against us. was a good fight until the LTARS joined in the defense and turned the tide at about the same time as many of us started to log for the night.
That was an impressive "Borg-Horde" at 30! :O
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Originally posted by GooseAW
Actually had fun at the land grab game last night!
! :O
as a bish out# , last evening was realy HOT on Uterus map !! knights attacking bad those bases north, A48/49/A43, and rooks raped us "dry" at A8, but was fun desperately defence:)
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Heh, I saw you bouncing from field to field Ghi :)
I was at 49 and it was ALL Gvs and IL2s, and I lost my radiator to an M16. So I come back in a heavy 190a8, 30mm for il2s and a 1k bomb for GVs....
Only by the time I get back there's not a freaking friendly in sight and there's 15+ enemies all over the place. Your lgay7 popped me rather quickly.
So, that fight was totally gone, I moved to another. A43, was it? The one our CV was attacking. I get there and take off in an f4f4 and one of the first planes I shoot down is by that guy that just shot me down! I think you moved there just as I did.
Pity that Knits can't take a field worth a damn. We had 15+ GVs on the ground, the ENTIRE town was flat, the ENTIRE field was flat (down to every last ord/ammo/fuel/watertower), and yet... STILL we can't freaking take it.
It was enough to make me give up and quit.
On top of that, it seems there was no "good" fight. Was always 1 side totally gangbanging the other, be it us or them.
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Originally posted by SKurj
Oh... checked my numbers for this tour....
Kills of
Bish = 98
Knit = 22
Rook = 9 (I swapped from knit to rook a couple of days after rejoinin the game)
Kills as
Knit = 31
Rook = 98
Bish = 0
Country Kills As Kills Of
Bishop 2240-- 565
Knight 79-- 1051
Rook 985 --1688
Country Killed As Killed By
Bishop 734-- 153
Knight 18-- 433
Rook 329-- 495
~VansCrew~
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Still fly nit when I'm on.............
not sure if I'm a old vet................
Noticed my Squad is nearly gone....................
NwBie, Spacer, WMLute, and ROCKY are about the only squadies I see anymore.
Noticed a definate lack of 6 calls among nits!!!!!!!
Hey I'm a TEAM flyer! I talk it up and I call 6s because the more of us there are the more the BADGUYS have to worry about! So keeping others up and flyin is a definate BENEFIT TO ME!
was on a BADGUY tryin to clear a 6 and firin and saw tracers all around me, rolled and looked back and there is 6 or 7 nits behind me and 1 (yes only one) badguy back there firein at me. And NOT a single one of those nits said anything!
Have had this happen several times!
Got to the point I started ranting at em about it on vox! I don't rant long.......
Told em i'm a team flyer, that means 6 calls and talk it up, no 6 calls means i'm gonna fly alone or find some vets that understand team flyin so enjoy l8rz......
But hey there are some TEAM flyers among the nits!!! AND good ones they are TOO! You guys know who you are and great flyin with ya!
And I still see vets from time to time and fly with em!
So we haven't all LEFT or gone somewhere else.
Wilbuz :D
And that RedTop guy!!!!!!!! GRRRRRR!!!!!
Shot me down in the FSO he did!!!!!!!!!! *%$@#^%^
Nice shootin RedTop (BTW RedTop is a team flyer, used to fly nits, and is missed!)
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I wondered what had happened to the Knights.
Lately flying between 8pm-1am pacific time good nit sticks are logged on and great furballing happens. Earlier in the day knight land is simply depressing because of stated reasons and the rooks alt monkey hoards.
Knights remind me of AW "C" landers. Great defenders and furballers, but short on the playing well together bit......:D
Having spent the last few months Rook, it looked like alotta squads and good sticks went Rook. Guess they like easy mode by numbers rather than even good fights. Happens when you get old I hear....;)
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I fly knight, always have and prolly always will. Besides if i changed counries yall wouldnt have anyone to shoot at. :D
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Salute Wilbus its been a blast flying with you and enjoy having you as a bish. you are a classic team player you check 6 all the time. i remember when i was a Knight there was a lack of check 6s but i dont sweat it anymore. heres what i do if no one is check 6in folks then its time to start riping new ones cause we only going to save the base or take a base with team work sometimes it works sometimes it dont but hey if you dont try then you might as well be a loner then.
Bish put a lot of missions together cause we like to be organized more then the other two countrys. granted some of the missions are dweebish but you got to have some fun missions as well. i know with the LTARs we normaly do one fun raid a day to just cut up and have fun then its back to taking bases and defending them.
so i have read some that say 1 year is still a noob 2 year is still a noob 3 year just a step above noob so someone tell me what they think is a vet in this AH life.
Salute.
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Originally posted by GooseAW
Actually had fun at the land grab game last night!
took 3 fields down south on the TT map with the BOPS and friends defending against us. was a good fight until the LTARS joined in the defense and turned the tide at about the same time as many of us started to log for the night.
That was an impressive "Borg-Horde" at 30! :O
i remember that yall put up one hell of a fight Salute was alot of fun
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
so someone tell me what they think is a vet in this AH life.
I consider myself one. 11 years in AW and AH in June. Still learning.
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Originally posted by Serenity
Ive flown all three, and I must say, the rooks are by far the strongest, as far as loyalty and coordination. But as long as my squad commander (A true veteran, so they ARE still there, lol) stays Knight, I stand firm at his side.
I would have to agree.
When going against rooks you rarely get to fight just one or two of em for more then 30 seconds before it seems like they ALL show up.
Over the last 6 months or so I've noticed bish starting to be more like that.
Being a Knit myself. I'd say there are only a handful. a dozen or two that are like that.
Most arent.
I'll rush over to help anyone I see looks like they are in trouble and will announce Im commig to help.
Knits. Outside of a couple dozen. I could have 6 on me and I've seen some fly right by LOL
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When I look on range (assuming there's anyone ON range,) and I see a buncha cpids I don't recognize, I assume I'm surrounded by noobs, will get no 6 calls, and fully expect the lot of them to steal every kill I dont finish off. The only advantage of them being around is they distract some of the La7's:eek:
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Your 10k+ posts have made it already ;)
Hard to define who's a "vet" and who's not and kind of stupid to argue about it.
A year doesn't make you a vet in my eyes, that's still a n00b just to clearify a few things
what can I say.
Im the strong silent type ;)
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Originally posted by Puck
Knights couldn't fight their way out of a wet newspaper anymore.
Dunno they were doing alright in LW Orange tonight, although if you add that us Bish were getting 262s for 70 perks, you might work out why :) .
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Originally posted by LTARkilz
Salute Wilbus its been a blast flying with you and enjoy having you as a bish. you are a classic team player you check 6 all the time. i remember when i was a Knight there was a lack of check 6s but i dont sweat it anymore. heres what i do if no one is check 6in folks then its time to start riping new ones cause we only going to save the base or take a base with team work sometimes it works sometimes it dont but hey if you dont try then you might as well be a loner then.
Bish put a lot of missions together cause we like to be organized more then the other two countrys. granted some of the missions are dweebish but you got to have some fun missions as well. i know with the LTARs we normaly do one fun raid a day to just cut up and have fun then its back to taking bases and defending them.
so i have read some that say 1 year is still a noob 2 year is still a noob 3 year just a step above noob so someone tell me what they think is a vet in this AH life.
Salute.
Congratulations, Kilz! Your post was almost coherent! The Ritalin is obviously working.
:aok
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Wrag you're definatly one of the long time Knit vets I'm talking about and always enjoy flying with. Like I said before, there are some guys, some old timers and long time friends that you just know that if they are in the area they badguys are in for a hell of a ride. You know they've got your 6, give 6 calls if needed and as long as they see it. Come to help, communicate and are just plain fun to fly and talk with. Without these guys I doubt I'd still be flying AH. It's become so much more then a game thanks to alot of great virtual pilots and friends.
I have definatly enjoyed flying with the Bish more then the Knits these past few days LTARKilz, it was almost like "coming home" for some reason. !
I don't have no chess piece hysteria, I will go and fly where I have most fun. Be it Knit, Bish or Rook I will go and fly with the people I know and enjoy flying with.
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Funny to hear about what each country is or isn't, or what it does or doesn't do. Especially humorous to hear some think the Bish give more 6 calls than the Knits after I just verbally spanked about 12-15 bish (almost all with names I've never seen before) defending a base for not saying a single word for almost ten minutes. Seems I'm saying more often to the Bish "Anyone there?", "radio check", "Hey, do you guys even own mics?" LOL
I guess all types of behavior happens on all sides, but occurs to different degrees in some kind of cycle, hence the different perceptions of, and by, each country at any one point in time.
From my general observation of the Bish's reaction to the other two countries, it seems their general perspective is the Knits are less of a threat. Not trying to insult anyone, and it's not really said outright, but I think the Bish are rarely even concerned with what the Knits do in the long run since they don't do it very well (as they used to, and I'm not talking about individuals).
The Rooks are seen as dangerous only if we let them get up a head of steam and don't respond quickly enough. Even then, I would concur they have less stamina than they used to, as depicted with the anology of a snowball that melts away on it's own.
Certainly there are great sticks, squads and missions on all sides, and eventually the cycle will shift, the perspective change. However, I'm inclined to believe the recent changes to the game have caused this, and some permanent and detrimental impact to the player community.
Certainly, seeing the same (dam*) arenas over and over and over and over again, ad nauseum, is not helping. Nor is having to endure the now ever more lopsided ENY. In the old MA structure I hated the ENY then, but I never, ever saw an ENY of 29 reached, and rarely one that reached 20. I can remember at least 3 times in the past few weeks when the Bish were flying bicycles with rubber band props because ENY reached 29. HiTech get a clue, it ain't working.
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WWWWWWWWIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLL LLMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa aaaa
:O
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Wilbuz TY Sir
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AAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAA AARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :D
Are you planning on coming back?
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Originally posted by Wilbus
AAAAAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPPAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :D
Are you planning on coming back?
Hi m8!!
No, not coming back soon, maybe when ToD comes out (in 2 weeks?) :D
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Hehehe, cu in "two weeks" then ;)
Stay in touch on the BBS will ya.
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Originally posted by Wilbus
Wrag you're definatly one of the long time Knit vets I'm talking about and always enjoy flying with. Like I said before, there are some guys, some old timers and long time friends that you just know that if they are in the area they badguys are in for a hell of a ride. You know they've got your 6, give 6 calls if needed and as long as they see it. Come to help, communicate and are just plain fun to fly and talk with. Without these guys I doubt I'd still be flying AH. It's become so much more then a game thanks to alot of great virtual pilots and friends.
I have definatly enjoyed flying with the Bish more then the Knits these past few days LTARKilz, it was almost like "coming home" for some reason. !
I don't have no chess piece hysteria, I will go and fly where I have most fun. Be it Knit, Bish or Rook I will go and fly with the people I know and enjoy flying with.
I always enjoy flying in your area, Wil. I don't have to worry about you stealing kills or not helping out when needed. You are one o fthe best at general communications and logical strategy when winging! I remember we were up at 19 on new pizza a month or so ago defending an overrun base and landed 8 to 10 kills every sortie, allthe while upping from said base. It was Schweeeeeet!~
Mark
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We Knits have always been the redheaded stepchild of the land grab game. I can count on one hand how many Knit resets I've witnessed since I started.
Bishsticks and Crooks have some silent aggrement to tag team the Knits.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I would have to agree.
When going against rooks you rarely get to fight just one or two of em for more then 30 seconds before it seems like they ALL show up.
Over the last 6 months or so I've noticed bish starting to be more like that.
Being a Knit myself. I'd say there are only a handful. a dozen or two that are like that.
Most arent.
I'll rush over to help anyone I see looks like they are in trouble and will announce Im commig to help.
Knits. Outside of a couple dozen. I could have 6 on me and I've seen some fly right by LOL
If you see me on PM me, I am usually away from the horde.
Dred, typically I am able to pretty much accurately guess who is in a plane. Many Rooks have heard me call out at least The Squadron, and sometimes the pile-it.
I stink though, some say I lie, so I must suck. I'll never be a vet.
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I'll look ya up when I'm on Wilby, we'll wing it up.
:)