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Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: AAolds on April 28, 2007, 09:09:42 PM
Over this past month, I and others have been getting ditch messages while landing GVs in towns while on concrete.  Not everytime, but enough times.  

What are the designated areas a GV can land on in towns now?
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: MajWoody on April 28, 2007, 10:01:12 PM
I haven't had any probs when I land on the hanger pad. I've gotten ditches when I landed on the road.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: LYNX on April 28, 2007, 10:01:43 PM
never happened to for years because I park along side a building or in between them .
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Snork on April 28, 2007, 10:10:59 PM
I parked an LVT2 between buildings this morning and got a ditch.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: jon on April 28, 2007, 10:12:30 PM
i have had the same problem  :cry :furious
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: sgt203 on April 28, 2007, 10:43:22 PM
I have also gotten ditch in between bldgs..
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: MajWoody on April 28, 2007, 10:48:38 PM
Jeeze,

I misread the post. sorry.:o
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: MOIL on April 29, 2007, 01:30:02 PM
Funny you bring this up, my squaddies were just talkin' about this last night.  We all have had several "ditches" while parked on the pavement???

My suggestion and opinion would be to make the entire area inside the city a "safe" place to land IF it is your city.

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k175/LTARmoil/Redneck/town.jpg)

Anywhere INSIDE the line IMO should be a safe zone and should result in a successful landing.  With the new terrain changes it's sometimes a roll of the dice weather you get a ditch or not even tho you're on "pavement"

Just a thought

Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Spikes on April 29, 2007, 03:19:27 PM
I just lost 14 kills in a flak due to ditch in town. Ive lost over 20 more this patch.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: jon on April 29, 2007, 06:42:29 PM
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Originally posted by MOIL
Funny you bring this up, my squaddies were just talkin' about this last night.  We all have had several "ditches" while parked on the pavement???

My suggestion and opinion would be to make the entire area inside the city a "safe" place to land IF it is your city.

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k175/LTARmoil/Redneck/town.jpg)

Anywhere INSIDE the line IMO should be a safe zone and should result in a successful landing.  With the new terrain changes it's sometimes a roll of the dice weather you get a ditch or not even tho you're on "pavement"

Just a thought


I have addressed in an erlier post
look here (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167936)
why would that be any different than an airfield?
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: jon on April 29, 2007, 10:08:56 PM
ERR earlier:eek:
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: kj714 on April 29, 2007, 10:19:35 PM
Maybe the game is only programmed to recognize a safe landing on what it calls concrete. To redefine whole areas as "safe" would probably mean making the whole base out of concrete. I've always wondered if safe landings at spawn points mean the area around the spawn is just recolored and textured to blend in "concrete".
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Serenity on April 30, 2007, 01:15:27 AM
Make the WHOLE base a safe spot! Earlier this evening I taxid an Ar-234 to the re-arm pad, misjudged the building distance and broke my wings off. My nosewheel was INCHES from concrete. Got a ditch. While 30 points is truely trivial, its the principal of it! I hadnt taken a single hit, and there wasnt an enemy for 3 grids!
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: moneyguy on April 30, 2007, 10:00:12 AM
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Originally posted by spikes
I just lost 14 kills in a flak due to ditch in town. Ive lost over 20 more this patch.



you dont "lose" the kills, they just dont show up for everyone to see.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Krusty on April 30, 2007, 10:14:28 AM
Here's how it works for vehicles.

If you're ON friendly concrete, you should get a "safe" landing every time -- should, there's the odd report that at times it doesn't.

If you're closer to a friendly base than an enemy base -- and this includes out in the wilderness -- you will get a safe landing as long as nobody is around. I mean NOBODY. If there's so much as one person within x miles of you, it's a ditch. I think you might even be able to tower out safely at an enemy field, as long as there's nobody around.

Somebody did a lot of testing way back when Stalin's Fourth was run, because we were using GVs often in it.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Lusche on April 30, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
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Originally posted by Krusty
I think you might even be able to tower out safely at an enemy field, as long as there's nobody around.
 


Yes it is possible. Got a "You have landed" message countless time when towering out at undefended enemy bases V fields.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: 68Ripper on April 30, 2007, 01:49:32 PM
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Originally posted by LYNX
never happened to for years because I park along side a building or in between them .


I tried that yesterday LYNX as as usual I suspected to get a successful landing, but not this time. I was on concrete but for some reason it gave me a ditch. was not happy.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Wax on April 30, 2007, 05:13:26 PM
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Originally posted by Krusty
Here's how it works for vehicles.

If you're ON friendly concrete, you should get a "safe" landing every time -- should, there's the odd report that at times it doesn't.

If you're closer to a friendly base than an enemy base -- and this includes out in the wilderness -- you will get a safe landing as long as nobody is around. I mean NOBODY. If there's so much as one person within x miles of you, it's a ditch. I think you might even be able to tower out safely at an enemy field, as long as there's nobody around.

Somebody did a lot of testing way back when Stalin's Fourth was run, because we were using GVs often in it.


If I remember correctly the base or city cant be blinking when landing a GV at a city. It will give a ditch every time. Unless that has changed.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Lusche on April 30, 2007, 05:30:59 PM
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Originally posted by Wax
If I remember correctly the base or city cant be blinking when landing a GV at a city. It will give a ditch every time. Unless that has changed.


Vehicles always used to be able to successfully land on any friendly concrete (base or town) even when damaged & under attack.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: MOIL on May 01, 2007, 12:07:54 AM
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Originally posted by jon
I have addressed in an erlier post
look here (http://forums.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=167936)
why would that be any different than an airfield?


First off, nothing was "addressed"  just slightly discussed.  I'm not saying that you shouldn't get a ditch if said person or veh is not on pavement.

What has me and many others complaining is when you ARE on concrete or pavement and you still get a ditch???

It's like a roll of the dice weather or not you land successfully. This IMO is BS. If you take the time to make sure you have parked on pavement and it gives you a ditch, then we have a programming error or HT is not advising on how to properly land your veh on pavement.

my 2 cents
Title: ditchin
Post by: REDDOGTL on May 01, 2007, 06:33:43 AM
be on the look out for lost kills :O  

my son dethan lost 6 kills last night on a v-base we were defending

so glitch is not only in town concret but at v-base as well



 so be careful    :D  


 reddogtl  :aok
Title: Re: ditchin
Post by: Lusche on May 01, 2007, 08:31:11 AM
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Originally posted by REDDOGTL
be on the look out for lost kills :O  

my son dethan lost 6 kills last night on a v-base we were defending



like others have already pointed out:

You cannot lose kills! Ditch or land, you still have them.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: stephen on May 01, 2007, 09:20:44 AM
me too several kills lost in a ostie on concrete next to water tower.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: 68Ripper on May 01, 2007, 09:25:07 AM
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Originally posted by stephen
me too several kills lost in a ostie on concrete next to water tower.


Please see Lusche's post above yours. you still get the kills, you just don't get your name in lights.
Title: ditchin
Post by: REDDOGTL on May 01, 2007, 11:06:54 AM
gentelman

 You are right kills are kills and you keep them but every now and then
we all need to have our EGO pumped up and nothing better than seeing
your name on the board in lights.


   reddogtl :cry
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: AAolds on May 01, 2007, 02:02:55 PM
Also, getting a ditch message affects off your K/D rate, and some of us like our stats and dont want them skewed by glitches.  If I had not gotten the ditches I got while in town on concrete, my K/D rate in GV would still be well over 3.  Minor gripe.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Lusche on May 01, 2007, 02:13:46 PM
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Originally posted by AAolds
Also, getting a ditch message affects off your K/D rate, .


It doesn't.
K/D is Kills per Death. If you are killed or captured, it's a "death", disco counts as 1/2 death. A ditch does not effect your K/D.
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: 68Ripper on May 01, 2007, 02:21:49 PM
A disco shouldn't even count. I got discoed 11 times this last tour and I have no control over it, why should I be penalized for it?
Title: Ditchin in town on concrete?
Post by: Lusche on May 01, 2007, 02:25:06 PM
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Originally posted by 68Ripper
A disco shouldn't even count. I get discoed quite a bit lately and I have no control over it, why should I be penalized for it?


Because it's impossible to differ between a true and an intentional disco. People would protect their pretty K/D score by discoing deliberatly when about to get kille dby a opponent on their 6.