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Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Emu on April 29, 2007, 07:46:54 PM
In talking to a few people in the LWO arena yesterday (TT map), I was able to corroborate that most people seem to notice the new AH environment as being very hazy/foggy/smoky.  I imagine that is how it would feel to fly around heavily poluted areas, or in a nice summer day in England :D , but it is not very enjoyable to have that type of environment constantly in the game as it is hard to see and I find myself squinting quite a bit.  Are others experiencing the same problem? If so, could it be how I have my graphic properties (video card, monitor, game settings) are configured? (although I doubt it, I've changed them around quite a bit to no avail).

Wish I could post a picture, but I have nowhere to upload it.

Regards,

Emu
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Trukk on April 29, 2007, 07:50:15 PM
Since the last patch, it looks really good to me.  Like a typical sunny day.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Emu on April 29, 2007, 08:21:07 PM
Would you be able to share your graphics configuration?  I use max detail/quality, 1.0 Gamma, Horizon is checked, Terrain optimization is checked, etc. etc.
I noticed that disabling Horizon seemed to help as it basically made the line between the earth and sky a straight horizontal line, with the sky component missing the fog/haze.

Emu
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: SKurj on April 29, 2007, 08:36:17 PM
I like it as it is!  My display settings basically set to default.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Emu on April 29, 2007, 09:09:32 PM
I notice that so far the only ones that like it are Canadians... so we can safely discard those opinions :O

Emu
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: blkmgc on April 29, 2007, 09:24:40 PM
No problems here either. Looks great on my end. Maybe post your system specs?
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Atoon on April 29, 2007, 09:32:17 PM
I have noticed it seems a bit hazy-

I also notice that I see planes on Dar, but cant get visual as quickly as I used to
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Emu on April 29, 2007, 09:56:07 PM
Some hours of the AH day are better than others, but overall, there is a haze.  I agree with uKnoMe, its much more difficult to spot cons at a distance now, and going over the cloud cap makes it almost impossible to spot cons down below.  I do plenty of real life flying, and although there are some bad days, on sunny clear days, it is definitely better than AH.  The interesting thing is the haze wasnt there BTP (before the patches).  Should this be something we should expect as a constant?  

Not a huge deal, but it would be nicer to have more clarity (pun intended)

Emu
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: KTM520guy on April 29, 2007, 10:40:08 PM
It's very hazy. I think Los Angeles has better air.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: MajWoody on April 29, 2007, 11:23:37 PM
Very hazy on my end as well. As several others have stated, you can't see the dots (cons) nearly as far as before. So far I'm trying it off line. Does that make a difference?
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Tango on April 29, 2007, 11:30:12 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Emu
I notice that so far the only ones that like it are Canadians... so we can safely discard those opinions :O

Emu


I'm not in Canada and it looks great to me.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Xasthur on April 30, 2007, 01:39:35 AM
I have the same problem as Emu.

It's like bushfire season in the MAs.

It doesn't worry me that much, I'm all for adverse weather conditions periodically, but I do have a permanent 'smoke' haze at all altitudes up to at least 16k (i'll have to go higher tonight and check if it clears)

I had no problems before the patch with smoke haze.

Note: This isn't a whine or a complaint, just an observation.

:)
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Serenity on April 30, 2007, 02:04:55 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Emu
I notice that so far the only ones that like it are Canadians... so we can safely discard those opinions :O

Emu


<---- German blood. Russian blood. Irish blood. English blood. Scotish blood. American born. Resides in hawaii. I like it. I think it adds a touch more realism!
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Emu on April 30, 2007, 04:32:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Serenity
<---- German blood. Russian blood. Irish blood. English blood. Scotish blood. American born. Resides in hawaii. I like it. I think it adds a touch more realism!


Wow.  Must have been one hell of party :O
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Serenity on April 30, 2007, 05:51:18 AM
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Originally posted by Emu
Wow.  Must have been one hell of party :O


lol. My ancestors walked around europe with their pants off. Im on every side of WWII except Japan! (Im also Itallian and a few other things)
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Laurie on April 30, 2007, 06:42:58 AM
a pain, maybe but it's realistic.

the only realistic way to avoid constant weather conditions is to have weather that changes
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: LYNX on April 30, 2007, 11:29:07 AM
I also have a haze effect.  I'm assuming that's how it should be.  No haze above the cloud layer.

If this is how it should be I can live with it.  No biggy but does make cv hunting a little harder if it's not already burning.

In general this new patch is a blessing I bet the GV'ers love it.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Condor on April 30, 2007, 11:29:33 AM
I've noticedthe haze primarily when approaching bases at 12,000 ft for dive bombing.  It's a lot harder to see the air fields or towns until almost on top of them.  I would prefer less haze.  It puts no one at a disadvantage since it's the same for everyone so I don't see it as a "problem".  

I'm a little puzzeled that everyone doesn't see it but my monitor is several years old, I have a mid-range video card, and my eyes are a lot older than my monitor.:)
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Laurie on April 30, 2007, 11:53:12 AM
bombing fields from 22k+ requires VERY good eysight now
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Kev367th on April 30, 2007, 12:12:35 PM
If your running 1024 textures grab the latest Hi-res pack, made a hell of a difference to me.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: KayBayRay on April 30, 2007, 01:55:38 PM
I have noticed a bit more haze since the patch also. Doesnt seem to be much of a real problem for me. Of course I am nearly blind anyway. :cool:

There seems to be a lot more cloud formations as I fly around. The density of the haze seems much more prominent when aiming bombsights. It seems much more difficult to locate the target at higher altitudes now.

Most of my bomb runs are between 8-12k alt and doesnt seem a problem. I have flow a couple missions with HARM and Special Events above 15k and it seems the higher I go the harder it is to find the target. Of course this seems to make sense to me that it would be harder to see the target at higher altitudes.

For example I flew the HARM mission Sunday afternoon. Our altitude over the target for the bomb run was 25k. I had to search hard to find the target in my own bombsight. IIRC we were about 30 seconds from the target before I actually sighted it and was able to calibrate my bombsight for the run.

Just my thoughts but it seems to add some realism that I did not notice before. Of course I am relatively new to the game. So others may have a more accurate feel for the changes.

Later,
KayBay
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Zippy41 on April 30, 2007, 02:02:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Serenity
lol. My ancestors walked around europe with their pants off. Im on every side of WWII except Japan! (Im also Itallian and a few other things)



Is your nose cold too?:D
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Bruv119 on April 30, 2007, 03:02:57 PM
I'm getting quite a bit of haze too.

Its much worse when its dawn/dusk.  Higher you go the more haze their is.

I guess its something we will have to get used too but it wasnt there with the lime green muck ;)
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: NoBaddy on April 30, 2007, 03:06:44 PM
For me, dots appear at about 7k...just before the icon. It's makin' this feel like work.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: airspro on April 30, 2007, 03:35:50 PM
I get haze also . Don't really like it much at all .

I did find that it cleared up over 16 k on the Islands map .

If we were voteing , I would vote for clear skys please .

Could this be some bug caused by the "fix" for the smoke etc ?
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Wax on April 30, 2007, 05:05:51 PM
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Originally posted by Kev367th
If your running 1024 textures grab the latest Hi-res pack, made a hell of a difference to me.


Kev were can we find this?

Very hazy on my end as well.  You can't see the dots (cons) nearly as far as before.:cry
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Condor on April 30, 2007, 06:18:50 PM
Go here for the high res package.

http://downloads.hitechcreations.com/AHHIRES2102.EXE
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: whiteman on April 30, 2007, 06:20:03 PM
go to the downloads drop down menu above, click "game" and should be on the right hand side.

beat me to it
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Serenity on April 30, 2007, 06:46:07 PM
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Originally posted by KayBayRay


Sorry, just have to ask, by KayBay, could you mean Kaneohe Bay MCAB? (K-Bay is the local nickname for it...)

And as far as high-altitude bombing, no, actually, the haze goes away for me when im up above 15,000...
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: ramzey on April 30, 2007, 06:56:28 PM
global warming guys, global warming:D
Title: Haze
Post by: moto61 on May 01, 2007, 01:30:49 AM
It looks very hazey on my setup too. I mentioned how nasty it looked on text and got several similar responces.

I did like the 1 or 2 days that the sun didnt burn your eyes out of your head. Why does the sun shine thru the clip board? Jeezers pass out some shades ! Opena PX and charge a perky or 2 for a pair that will last that session.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: NoBaddy on May 01, 2007, 09:28:54 AM
Ok, did the hi-res textures. It didn't change the haze, however, all of the ground textures are now more distinct. At least I can see fields when I fly over them now. :)
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Max on May 01, 2007, 10:42:40 AM
<-- would MUCH prefer less haze. The clouds are fine and the improved ground textures rock :aok
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: RELIC on May 01, 2007, 11:25:40 AM
I agree.  Too hazy.
Title: Permanent fog/haze/cloudy
Post by: Oleg on May 01, 2007, 11:37:44 AM
New haze suck. Sometimes i cannt see dots inside icon range, especially against ground.

Never understand why devs decreasing visibility to hell. There are nothing worst than circling around and be unable to see anything. Low populated arenas just dont worth flying for me now.