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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Meatwad on May 01, 2007, 07:32:54 PM
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This is a Massive Multiplayer online game that deals with you starting your own oil empire. Soon as you get situated, you can start out attacking other noobs and stealing their oil/money.
I think I found another addicting game
http://oilempires.itch.com/ (http://oilempires.itch.com/)
I started a cartel called Aces High. You have to register in the SOUTH WEST quadrant. If you join, send me your name and I'll send you an invite.
This link tells you what to do
http://oilempires.itch.com/wiki/index.php?n=Main.GettingStarted (http://oilempires.itch.com/wiki/index.php?n=Main.GettingStarted)
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LOL
if i have some time tomorrow i might give it a try
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Mustaine is in
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http://oilempires.itch.com/units.cfm
Does this mean you have to pay real money to use some of those? E.g. Nukes, spyplanes etc
In as PETROL in the SW quad, tho I won't stick to it if paypaling is the only way to stand a chance.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
This is a Massive Multiplayer online game that deals with you starting your own oil empire. Soon as you get situated, you can start out attacking other noobs and stealing their oil/money.
I think I found another addicting game
http://oilempires.itch.com/ (http://oilempires.itch.com/)
I started a cartel called Aces High. You have to register in the SOUTH WEST quadrant. If you join, send me your name and I'll send you an invite.
This link tells you what to do
http://oilempires.itch.com/wiki/index.php?n=Main.GettingStarted (http://oilempires.itch.com/wiki/index.php?n=Main.GettingStarted)
Oh Geesh, I sense another Ogame
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If it costs real money, im out also.
Edit - I sent an invite to the ones that already joined. Check your messages
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well I got me 3 pumps, 2 storage and one distribution center.
collected $41,000 so far
seems once you own some oil pumps it costs ALOT more then the base price to make more. :furious :mad:
current price: $84,375
guess I'll be waiting a while.
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3 oil, 2 tanks, and 2 distribution myself
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I'm going to mine the sea lanes and blow up a LNG tanker in port.
Your stocks should all go up shortly.
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Ok, I'm in, just got my production started with a couple of wells, a tank setting, and a distribution center. However, Cash flow will be slow for awhile, and I've got some neighbors uncomfortably close.
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Can you buy yellow cake in this game?
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Just joined. Sp0t is my user name.
-Sp0t
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first opinion:
this game sucks.
worthless WIKI, and "help".. forums, well I am asking a question now, "how to attack" and basically I have no "Kerosene" but how do you get it???
forum search yielded nothing, along with what the "cards" and "my deck" mean. never heard of that, have no clue.
seems to be a "real life money" pay game, we'll see how it goes, but in the mean time I got troops waiting for "Kerosene" to attack my 4 neighbors that are 9.2 miles away and have no outposts.
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I think the game is still in beta.
I think this is how you get kerosene
Build a 3rd oil pump, switch it between your HQ and your storage tank to keep both full.
Upgrade your distribution center, set your 3rd pump to your storage tank and leave it there.
Upgrade one Oil pump.
Build a refinery and connect it to your storage tank, set it to kerosene.
Upgrade your storage tank
Build a second refinery, connect it to your storage tank, set it to heating oil, and tell your storage tank to not sell kerosene.
Build a third refinery, connect it to your storage tank, set it to Gasoline, and tell your storage tank to not sell kerosene and heating oil
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Geez that sounds too much like work!
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got kerosene, (just told 1 refinery to make it instead of crude. and wala) and doing raids ;) seems troops steal $1000 each.
there seems to be no limit on attacks, I can attack as many times as I want, and it happens immediately, not a wait like ogame
ahh 3 attacks in 8 hours is all thats allowed.
You have already performed 3 attacks on this facility in the past 8 hours.
Please wait a little bit before continuing to abuse this player.
lol
I don;t get this comment:
Build a 3rd oil pump, switch it between your HQ and your storage tank to keep both full.
are you saying to "connect" the storage tank to HQ? if so how, it is actually right next to it, but HQ is not available to me in the drop down list only distribution centers.
oh yeah 3 of my buildings have a coordinate of xxxx:1337 :D :lol
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JB73, try and see if that xxx-coordinate building does not seem to get attacked or otherwise ever glitch.. it could make for an exploit :)
Did you do all the other prerequisites to that oil pump-HQ comment?
You're making a lot more cash than I am.. Can I have your coords to take a look at your setup?
Edit- Looks like you've got almost the same layout as I do.. where does the difference in profits come from? More pump time?
http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/773_1178134797_untitled-1.gif
The basic wells pump 100units twice an hour, basic refineries do their work twice an hour and 5minutes after the wells output, and basic storage tanks hold 500u, selling it at the distribution point 5min after refinery processing is done, also twice an hour..
nm. The bottleneck is a basic distribution building. It only works at 200u per half-hour.
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You need to upgrade your Distribution building, moot. That way, you can walk away from it for awhile and let it pump and sell without having to switch tanks around, or fiddle with the refinery. BTW, my ingame ID is FrodeMk3. Take a look at my setup if you have any questions.
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Moot yeah, I'm not worried about it though.
my setup is 2 oil pumping units going into 1 storage tank. that tank going to the distribution center.
3rd oil pump going into its own separate storage tank. the refinery goes only to that tank, and is making kerosene. I am not selling crude from that tank, only kerosene.
once I have more cash I will be making a military base.
from there I will start expanding east... it's wide open.
my alternate cash flow is raids. I have stolen about $180,000 so far, basically hit everyone in range 3 times that isn't protected by cease-fire.
the XXX thing is just me not typing all 3 other coordinates ;)
I HIGHLY recommend an outpost and a minimum of 10 militia to attack with. I posted before each one steals only $1000 so if you send 10 you get $10,000 each raid. you attack their distribuition centers, as they are mostly "inactive" and havent collected the cash from it.
some HQ's have cash, but not most.
after the raid you have to collect the cash stolen from your own HQ.
the beauty is you can raid each building or distribution center 3 times, not just the player. there are a couple of guys near me with 2 distribution centers, thats 6 raids every 8 hours. :D :t
hope that helps. personally I'm not going to bother learning about the other refined products for a while, I want to raid and turtle a bit to prevent myself getting raided. Then I will start worrying about learning the higher end stuff. as it is right now there doesn't seem to be anyone really close that has much of a military network YET.
oh another thing... I have been basically spending all I can keeping cash low. I have 2 lvl 2 oil pumps, a lvl 2 storage tank, and lvl 2 dist. center, along with the outposts and militia (currently 30, and 5 more in queue)
last comment, I have found the higher score or something, the more it costs to clear land, it is now up to $140,000 to clear an obstructed area :(
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Yep Frode, I got that :) If i understand correctly, you don't need that second fuel tank. Basic tanks hold 500bbl, and the HQ can take 100 in addition to that.
Basic level1 pumps output 100.
Meatwad should get you an invite..
JB73, do the trees give any cover from attacks? I was thinking would make for free partial defense (or at least up the mileage cost for inbound raids) and spread things out against nukes and the like.
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Originally posted by moot
Yep Frode, I got that :) If i understand correctly, you don't need that second fuel tank. Basic tanks hold 500bbl, and the HQ can take 100 in addition to that.
Basic level1 pumps output 100.
Meatwad should get you an invite..
JB73, do the trees give any cover from attacks? I was thinking would make for free partial defense (or at least up the mileage cost for inbound raids) and spread things out against nukes and the like.
nope, trees do nothing but hinder development.
as far as "clustering" vs spreading things out, goto the rankings in game, and look at the top player "arseraider's" layout. it's a mess, and hard to follow the chain of oil, but it looks like clustering is a non-issue.
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I'll check it out, only if the handle "GW Bush" isn't taken...
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Invites sent. If anyone didnt get one, let me know
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Got my invite, Ty Meatwad
Moot, I had to put a second tank setting so I would'nt waste production. What happens is, in order to make Kerosene, Heating oil, gasoline, etc. I noticed that if I put 400 Bbl. of crude in, It becomes kerosene, but doesn't leave the tank. If I go further and make heating oil, It's still there. What happens is, you back up in the production queue, because in order to make heating oil, you need kerosene right in back of it, and Crude at the bottom. To make one high lvl product, you have to have it all in one tank, so it looks like this:
400 bbl. Crude oil
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400 bbl. kerosene
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400 bbl. Heating oil
= 1,200 bbl. In one tank.
Now, you can upgrade to lvl. 2 on the tank, and you go from 500 bbl. to 1,500 bbl. I had to do this to handle my additional capacity. However, Now I have to check to make sure that my distribution center can handle it, but it seems that since you have to wait 3 cycles for the finished product, You don't overload it, it's just 400 bbl's of Heating oil.
Since I had some excess pumping capacity, I wound up setting up another tank, and a distribution center. My next upgrade depends on Pumping capacity. I'll probably make sure I can refine and hold it before I sink another well.
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Frode, I'd ask how you are calculating all that... but it is beyond me.
I know I am making kerosene, but now I wonder if I am doing it "right" or the most efficient?
here's what I got, and please tell me if and what I should change:
1 oil pump going to a storage tank.
storage tank is NOT selling crude.
storage tank is "connected" to distribution center.
refinery is connected to said storage tank, and set to "kerosene"
the distribution center this is connected to has another separate storage tank connected. THAT one has 1 pump, and the storage tank is "selling" everything. (that should not effect the kerosene production as it is a separate chain, but may overload the distribution center)
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Ahh, you have one refinery. What you will want to do to keep steady production of say, Heating oil, without switching your refinery back and forth from kerosene to heating oil, is to set up another refinery. The base refinery handles' 500 bbl. which is enough at one time. I'm set up like this:
400 bbl's into tank as crude. (do not sell crude.)
400 kerosene.(do not sell kerosene.)
400 heating oil(sell heating oil.)
It all has to go into one tank, so you'll need to have upgraded to at least a lvl. 2 tank. You have to hold all the product's in one tank, so you have to watch how much you put in(multiply product in times the number of steps you have to take to get finished product, in my case 3.)
I just took another look. I could diver Heating oil to my other tank setting from the refinery. So no, you don't really need to work off of one tank. My bad.
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I see Frode. As it is, you are selling 2*400bbl of H-Oil every 3 hours.
The schedule is:
T+0 Pump crude & send to tank
T+5 refine & return to tank
T+10 Sell
So you only need to set the tanks to Sell crude OFF if you have more crude than you can refine, and want that crude refined.
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I've sent request for invite
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CC, Moot. JB's got it right, I just don't know if he's maxing out the capacity of his tanks/refinery's. The Dist. center is the weak point, I've upgraded to lvl. 2 and can only move 400 bbl. per production period.
I might point out that the production timers are important in this game. Here's a rundown of them.
Crude Oil Production- :10, and :40 of the hour
Refining Operations- :15, and :45 minutes of the hour
Dist. Sales- :20, and :50 minutes of the hour
Things like the Business income( If you have a resort, or a Camel track for example) are at the last minute of every hour.
You actually have 2 production cycles an hour, so if you have a lvl. 2 well, that makes 200 bbl. a cycle, you actually are making 400 bbl. an hour. Refining slows down the rate at which you actually get product sold( once you get into making anything other than kerosene, because you have to take an extra cycle per product.)
A little extra tank capacity might help you keep from losing production, if you get in a bind.
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Frode, how do you move refined oil to another tank?
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Originally posted by moot
Frode, how do you move refined oil to another tank?
you don't
as far as I know anyway, you just have to let the distribution center sell it.
that's what I am running into with 1 of my tanks, it has 1,700 crude in it, but the center only sells 400 per cycle, so I am upgrading the dist. center.
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you all notice this "round" will end on the 8th?
been reading, and every "month" all is reset and we all start new off.
kind of a bummer, but may be interesting especially if we all team up on the first day and play hard core ;)
if this round is any indicator, I got to almost 1/2 of the top players score in just a day, we'll have to see what happens next round
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Yep, I was asking thinking I'd missed something.. I only saw one connection per refinery, so it didn't look like it could move oil anywhere but back to where it came from.. unless you switch the refinery's connection to another tank at the right time?
Why not sell all that crude if you are not refining it? Or are your pumps putting out 1700 per cycle? (1700 twice an hour)
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Im already selling heating oil. Got about $100,000 for about an hour or 1 1/2 hours
Using lvl 2 tanks
Lvl 1 refinery
Lvl 2 distribution
2 pumps (lvl 1 and 2)
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yeah 2 lvl 2 pumps into 1 tank... but it has been building up for a while, with the pumps putting out combined 400 / cycle, and distribution center only doing 200 per cycle at first there was a buildup.
just learned a trick too... someone who is active and collecting their money, well chances they aren't online the second the dist. center sells the product, meaning right then you raid them, be online at 50 / 20 of the hour or there abouts and w00t! ;) :t :D
too bad I am using all my kerosene as attack fuel, and now I'm out, no raids for a few cycles :(
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How much money have you gotten from raids so far
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$20,000 Cash
$15,000 Cash
$20,000 Cash
$20,000 Cash
$20,000 Cash
$20,000 Cash
$20,000 Cash
$20,000 Cash
$8,000 Cash
$8,000 Cash
$8,000 Cash
$8,000 Cash
$8,000 Cash
$7,000 Cash
$7,000 Cash
$7,000 Cash
$7,000 Cash
$7,000 Cash
$6,000 Cash
$5,000 Cash
$5,000 Cash
$5,000 Cash
$251,000 total so far
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Purdy money :)
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Hey, by my best figure, 400 bbl. of heating oil brings $60,000.
Crude oil, for 200 bbl. brings just $15,000.
So, If HO is 2 steps of refinement over Crude, then by this reasoning, Jet fuel should be what, $120,000 for 400bbl.?
I was thinking about just retaining some oil in my spare tank, then refining it all out to Heating oil, then resetting my refineries to make it into Jet Fuel. Of course, I'll do this with like 1,000 bbl. but that's the only way to make it worth it.
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I currently have gasoline being refined, working on the production line to increase output and sales. Then its time to build up a military. Currently have 20 soldiers getting high on fumes
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Hey JB, have you gotten any nasty PM's from the people you've been raiding? Or have they been AFK the whole time?
I realized something too: Depending on what you want to make, you have to divide the number of steps into how much tank capacity you have. For example: Meatwad want to make Gasoline. If he has a lvl 2 tank, which is 1500 barrels, he has to make sure he has enough space for the retention time. So, since Gasoline is step 4, then you divide 4 into 1500 = 375. So, this is the amount of Crude coming in. However, if you go for Kerosene, which is 2 steps, then you can hit the tank with 750 in, and keep the tank full.
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If you attack someone, do you get all their money they havent pocketed or just a percentage of it?
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Sale price in $ per 100bbl:
C: 7.5, K: 10, H: 15, G: ?, J: ?
So it's not linear.. I'd guess Jet fuel is probably not as profitable as crude:
$/time(1 hour) for 100bbl, (production time):
C: 15(0.5), K: 10(1), H: 10(1.5), G: ?, J: ?
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I'm gonna find out, Moot. I've just switched my production to my spare tank, which will just sell crude, and the 1,000 barrels I kept in my main production I'm gonna just let it refine all the way to jet. I'll keep you guys posted on the selling price, amount sold, etc.
actually, the wells produce twice an hour, and you get 2 refining operations, and 2 sales.
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Check out the new cartel picture
Check your messages, a few more of us joined :)
This is how much each BBl sales for
Crude: $75
Kerosene: $100
Heating Oil: $150
Gasoline: $250
Jet Fuel: $425
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Originally posted by Meatwad
If you attack someone, do you get all their money they havent pocketed or just a percentage of it?
you get money they have not picked up yet at their distribution centers, and you do not take it all (or maybe with enough dudes)
each militia steals $1000.
i don't know about other units yet.
Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Hey JB, have you gotten any nasty PM's from the people you've been raiding? Or have they been AFK the whole time?
nope not a single message.... yet...
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Neat! Just carried out several attack with 20 militia, took $20,000 a number of times.
I did attack one guy though, he killed 14 of my men.
Upgrade time :D
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seems one of my farms didn't like me raiding and made some troops... they got keeld :D
also I have started raiding storage tanks and stealing crude and kerosene so far ;)
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Can someone take a look at my facility 1080x1530 and tell me how i'm looking and what settings I should use/
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Controlling the flow of resources from this storage facility is critical to your success. Indicate which output, if any, should be sold through your distribution center.
Crude Oil: 472 Bbl YES NO
Kerosene: 0 Bbl YES NO
Heating Oil: 0 Bbl YES NO
Gasoline: 0 Bbl YES NO
Jet Fuel: 0 Bbl YES NO
Fuel is available to military? YES NO
so am I saving kerosene?
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Cav, you're gonna need a refinery to make anything other than Crude oil, I suggest that as your next purchase. Plus, as soon as you get some money, upgrade one of your tank settings to lvl. 2.
If all of your wells are lvl. 1, you can double production by upgrading them to lvl. 2 for less than if you buy and place more wells.
Add a 2nd Refinery as soon as you can, so you can turn kerosene into Heating oil( It sells for twice as much as crude)
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Originally posted by cav58d
Controlling the flow of resources from this storage facility is critical to your success. Indicate which output, if any, should be sold through your distribution center.
Crude Oil: 472 Bbl YES NO
Kerosene: 0 Bbl YES NO
Heating Oil: 0 Bbl YES NO
Gasoline: 0 Bbl YES NO
Jet Fuel: 0 Bbl YES NO
Fuel is available to military? YES NO
so am I saving kerosene?
umm no. you only "save" if you set the sale to no for any item at that storage facility.
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ok Frode, lemme see if I get this right...
to make heating oil you have pumps going to tanks. tanks do not sell crude or kerosene, and the 1 refinery making kerosene, and another attached to the same tank making heating oil?
also does anyone know how far physically apart the things can be to work? does the refinery have to be adjacent to the tanks to work?
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Originally posted by JB73
seems one of my farms didn't like me raiding and made some troops... they got keeld :D
also I have started raiding storage tanks and stealing crude and kerosene so far ;)
What are the ratios for crude, kero for theft?
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So that makes Jet fuel the most profitable, with Crude second-most profitable, on a profit/hour basis, although JF is offset by four refineries' purchase price if you want its production and sale to be automated.
So it might not be preferable over Crude at first, most likely not for CeaseFire's duration.
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Originally posted by Meatwad
What are the ratios for crude, kero for theft?
don't know what he had to begin with but:
Amount Stolen:
# 80 Bbl Crude Oil
# 120 Bbl Kerosene
Amount Stolen:
# 60 Bbl Crude Oil
# 91 Bbl Kerosene
that second attack either took all he had,. or like ogame there's a limit you can only take so much. I don't honestly know.
that was sending 20 militia BTW
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I think I started an addiction here :D
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Ok, I know now, 600 bbl. of Jet fuel fetched $255,000.
JB, I made 1,000 barrels of Jet using 2 refineries, but it took awhile. It would be better the way Moot said, get 4 refineries, make it automated. Plus, As far as I can tell, all you got to do is make sure they are connected.
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Well I'm too tired to crunch all the numbers to figure out all the costs and profits to compare Crude and JetFuel farming in an early game where you're not expending any money in anything else than oil :p
On a production time basis, JF makes 13% more profits than CO.. Correct me if I'm wrong, but four refineries would take a long time to pay themselves off, unless you've got a really big pumping throughtput.
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just read on the help forums:
http://www.itch.com/app/index.php?showtopic=891
you don;t have to make things "connected" as in touching
which helps me out alot, got some trees in the way.
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Here is my set up
HQ- LEVEL 1 - Everything accept Kerosene is checked "yes" and next to crude is 2BBL. (i feel like thats lower than before. did someone steal from me?)
HQ is connectcted to my level 2 distribution center
next
I own 3 oil pumping units, all at level 2. Two of them go to a Level 2 storage tank, and one goes to a level 1 storage tank. (does that make any sense? or should all be going to the single level 2 tank)
I own two storage tanks...One is a level 2 which 2 level 2 oil pumps are going into. The other is a level one, which a level 2 pump is going into.
Furthermore, I own two distribution centers. One is a level two, one is a level 1. The level two is connected to the level 2 tank, and the level 1 is connected to the level 1 tank.
Finally, I have a level 1 outpost. with 20 militia men. I want to attack someone, but i dont have kerosene and dont know how to make it?
so what should I do now? what are my next steps?
***And is it in a players best interest to always collest his cash in his distribution centers every time he logs so it isnt stolen?>
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update....just bought a refinery. It says to get kerosene it must be connected to a storage tank with crude? so that would be any one of my storage tanks right?
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another thing. do I want to stop the selling out crude from the tanks going to the refinary to the refinary gets all the crude?
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Sorry I was late to reply, Cav, but NO, don't sell the crude. make sure the refinery is making kerosene in the little drop down menu, and make sure the refinery is connected to the tank the crude is pumping into. You might want to go ahead and sell the crude in your other tank( It does'nt have a refinery hooked to it, right?) and I would sell that crude in your lower-lvl Dist. Center, so that you can make sure that your lvl. 2 dist. center sells all of the produced kerosene.
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and cav.. YES collect the money every chance you have. then it can't be stolen.
that's how I raided all my money people who haven't collected it.
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game broke
:furious :mad:
2 Spies are currently in training.
Next completion time in approximately: -71 minutes.
and no income at the :50 mark last time around, others have reported it on the forum.
I better get that money and spies back :furious :mad: :furious :mad:
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It look's like the server upchucked at 2400. But It's back on now. Hey, Can we give support to Cartel members in the form of Money or arms, or do we just go on a direct attack? Caveman's under attack.
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I was reading you can send troops to help defend a cartel member, but it was also in the bug forum where the troops sent disappeared.
ummm nope game is still totally hosed.
2 Spies are currently in training.
Next completion time in approximately: -84 minutes.
and no income again at the :20 mark
again, re-logged and game is fine now...
I also learned you can only steal 1/2 the money at a distribution center.
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Srry, I shoulda mentioned that I relogged :o
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oh BTW see here:
http://www.itch.com/app/index.php?showtopic=790
about troops movements and helping a cartel member... seems until lvl 5 helipad he's on his own.
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CC. The guy That attacked Caveman's got a pretty large setup-look at jooopman. You can see all the different people that attack cartel members in the cartel combat drop-down.
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Okay....First of all nearly everyone in my area is under cease fire. WTF. Second, the one person I found under cease fire was pointless. I sent to groups of troops to the distrubution office to steal and they came back empty handed. So then I send them to go destroy one of the dudes oil pumps and they cant even do that right. these drunks suck.
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cav, the one you raided collected the cash... try planning the attack just seconds after :20 and :50 of the hour to get the money before they collect it.
you can also raid their storage tanks if there is anything in them.
raided oil and whatnot goes to your HQ so to sell it you have to connect your HQ to a distribution center.
also in your destroy attack:
Min. Required Force: 20,000
meaning it would take 400 militia to destroy that building.
see the "units" in game to learn about them.
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learned another thing...
an outpost can only do 30 attacks in 8 hours.
gotta make myself more outposts right quick. :D
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Save up for a Helo pad, and an advanced military base. Some of the other cartels are armed that way.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Save up for a Helo pad, and an advanced military base. Some of the other cartels are armed that way.
already got a military base ;)
so far the first to have one :D :cool:
guard dogs in training right now, will work on infantry next, though their cost is a bit "high" considering their defense strength. rebels are where it's at for that, but thats LVL 7 outpost :O :eek:
I can see this game getting very addicting :lol
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You might want to use your GC to buy some cease fire time...That way, you can walk away from it for awhile. Or else, you'll be waking up every half hour to collect money!:eek: :O
Since I'm still under a cease fire, I've went ahead and built 4 refinery's, so that I can just let it produce Jet fuel all night long.
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I'll let it go 1 night... I have some decent defenses for how low I am in overall strength. I have 30 guard dogs, and 60 militia, all in defense range of all my structures.
I will be curious to see if anyone tries to attack.
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I was looking at the top ranked players...There's alotta WMD's running around. I'm thinking that the last day of the round will consist of a gotterdamerung. Especially since we start all over...
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I have a military base built. Have 40 infantry and 50 militia being trained right now.
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CC, Meatwad. I also have a MB now, plus I'm upgrading my outpost to lvl. 5, but it takes 8 hours!
Hopefully, I'll be ok until then, I've got about 60 militia, Infantry, and guard dogs running around.
Going over to strictly making Jet fuel was worth it, made about 2.5 mill in 6 hours. Now, I'm just trying to up my capacities' and production so that I'll be able to double profits.
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Time is starting to be a factor, upgrade's keep doubling the time for completion. I've almost got a lvl. 5 outpost, but it's taking hours to upgrade. Something to keep in mind, there...
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well overnight I got spied on, thats about it.
time for more defenses :D
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cav done, get back in there
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Look what I stoled from some tard in 3 attacks :)
Crude Oil: 1,210 Bbl
Kerosene: 1,300 Bbl
Heating Oil: 282 Bbl
Gasoline: 183 Bbl
Jet Fuel: 278 Bbl
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So how do we check what is in the storage tanks?
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Send a spy there (or 3) and he should come back with whats in there
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Zorstorer, you oughta open the ingame cartel chat in one of your broswer's tabs. It is almost as useful to coordinate strategicaly as vox in AH.
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I'm scared to play this... It must be more potent than crack!
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Originally posted by 1K3
I'm scared to play this... It must be more potent than crack!
LOL yup...
on the 6th we all start from scratch though, the game has "tours" or whatever. this is like the practice round.
you should hop in most you can lose is 4 or 5 days :p :D :rofl
next tour though with the in-game chat, and the ease of communication and reports we will PWN more than ogame!!!!!
hey ogamers this is more addicting and less of a "commitment", also WAY easy to work together, you wouldn't believe it!
come PWN for 1 month at least, though join now to get a feel before the 8th when the next tour starts.
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Itch, the network that hosts OE, says in the registration that it deletes accounts or bans if it sees more than one Itch account per player.
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lol. w00t! This is FUN!!! lol.
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what's an "Itch"?
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By tomorrow, I'll have a bio-weapons lab, and missiles to shoot them with. I'm kinda thinking, though, that there's some kind of special penalty for using WMD's. Anyone see something on this?
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Ahh, that guy Rambler just bent Meatwad over. Adding up the damage, it looks like he made off with almost half a million dollars. We're gonna have to Cartel up on that guy and exact some vengeance.
Cav, some guy ripped you off, too.
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yo frode, sorry, but everything is "hosed" in there.
"oops there was an error" almost everything I do, and the chat box doesn't come up
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The chat in the public room is some of the most colorful that an open chat with no profanity filter can produce.
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ugh.. how long has the map and chat been hosed?
I need to build the blackhawks!
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should i join the bandwagon.......?
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Yes, especially if you're willing to spend a few bucks on paypal for us to share the in-game credits.. :p
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its addicting, but its really fun.
a million times better then ogame
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Originally posted by Meatwad
its addicting, but its really fun.
a million times better then ogame
more than HoboWars?
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It's the premise of the game that makes it such a crackup.
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Originally posted by WMLute
more than HoboWars?
Yep, not active in hobowars anymore
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Meatwad, what's with the cartel message list?
Sp0t, I can send you an invite if you are still on.. The map and all players will reset this coming Tues.
Lute, give it a try :)
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I dunno, what happened to the message list
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sp0t got 2 mil laying around. needs to be collected. :t :D
I'm not getting it, long trip. it'll cost a fortune just to send troops there. :t
costed 4 Bbl just to have a looksee with a spy. :cry
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Storage Question. EX- Level 6 Storage Facility (5,000) bbl capacity,
When I look at general management it says
Crude Oil: 1,600 Bbl YES NO
Kerosene: 750 Bbl YES NO
Heating Oil: 750 Bbl YES NO
Gasoline: 750 Bbl YES NO
Jet Fuel: 0 Bbl YES NO
Fuel is available to military? YES NO
So does that mean I am holding1,600 barrells of 750 kerosene, etc...?
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meatwad i am slayr1 i need an invite.....i found danodano on the map and tristate
what is your name in the game?
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Originally posted by cav58d
Storage Question. EX- Level 6 Storage Facility (5,000) bbl capacity,
When I look at general management it says
Crude Oil: 1,600 Bbl YES NO
Kerosene: 750 Bbl YES NO
Heating Oil: 750 Bbl YES NO
Gasoline: 750 Bbl YES NO
Jet Fuel: 0 Bbl YES NO
Fuel is available to military? YES NO
So does that mean I am holding1,600 barrells of 750 kerosene, etc...?
yes
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LOL gamecrack all over again :rofl
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Lute: http://oilempires.itch.com/chat.cfm?defaultToClan=1
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hehe this is fun but i need alot of tips....just getting started
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lol meatwad, nice kills on oilcan's super cobras. he sent 10 you took out 7. looks like his 7th raid on your 3rd Military base.
:aok :lol
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Meatwad you need to get some flaks.. I don't think there's enough time for me to build something to kill those Cobras of his or their Helipad before Tuesday's reset.
It oughta be a close fight if none of us get milked offline.
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Just posted in there.. sorry but i have been doing real life stuff.. but first virus in the making, ready to deploy noon CST tomorrow or there abouts ;)
just tell me who you want killed ;)
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Tenchi :)
Oilcan will think twice now that he lost 7 of his precious cobras.
I wiped out rambler this morning, completely killed every last one of his troops and choppers with very few losses for me. To top it off, I emptied his fuel tanks and raided his HQ, shopping center, and distribution centers. His dist centers have 9 mil each unguarded
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done cav
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Tenchi :)
Oilcan will think twice now that he lost 7 of his precious cobras.
I wiped out rambler this morning, completely killed every last one of his troops and choppers with very few losses for me. To top it off, I emptied his fuel tanks and raided his HQ, shopping center, and distribution centers. His dist centers have 9 mil each unguarded
you sure? thought I read someone talking about allying with them? (the marine guys)
I'll wait until you are on chat, but I am ready to deploy them, and will have let's just say a ton of stuff really soon ;)
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Tenchi wiped me out, no allies with them. Has about 300 inf guarding per structure and completely overwhelmed me
I nuked my base and will start new tuesday
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ok well I am going to attack tenchi then
hop in chat if you can
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Originally posted by Meatwad
I nuked my base and will start new tuesday
"Scorched Earth" policy?:lol
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Well, im about to sell all my Kerosene... are we gonna attack someone? Or can I sell?
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Yep! :D
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Web-based games like these (Star-Fury for example) deprived me of nap time during my high school years:D
I'll join ASAP after the UNLV Finals week :aok
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:aok
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Meat I just joined....named under Fringe.
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Invite sent :)
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Hey meat, want us to post our stats regularly, so at least you can keep track of who can do what? Or does being cartel leader already give you that capability?
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The only stats I can see are scores. Im not really worried about stats though, im still working on a strategy myself
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We are gonna need a good strategy for the beginning of the next round. I believe we'll only have 12 hours of Cease-fire. The only thing we'll have going for us is that everyone on the map will be on the same footing. I would say that for the first 10 hours (20 cycles) we do everything we can to get a good prod. string started. It would probably be best to get manufacture of all products up to Jet Fuel right away. This will require considerable reinvestment. For the final 2 hours, I'd recommend outposts' spread evenly around your production string, within 1-2 squares of your Dist. Center. Upgrade the outposts' ASAP. Rebels defend even better than inf.
For raiding, inf. are best. So, 1 Mil. Base at first oppurtunity would'nt be a bad thing.
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Well, im going to start by making a LOT more oil, and making it more efficiently.
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Not understanding something....
Mininum destructive force to kill a level 1 outpost is 4,400. So I just sent 70 infantry men with a HP of 250 each = 17,500. So didnt I send a destructive force of 17.5, or am I readint he HP wrong
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Meat-
in as Concho.
ty
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Originally posted by Serenity
Well, im going to start by making a LOT more oil, and making it more efficiently.
If your distrubution center can handle it, its also not a bad idea to steal oil and filter via HQ. Or you can always turn off the sale of oil and run all your outbound missions on the stolen oil of your enemys
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Concho you have been added, check your mailbox ingame.
Gonna get oil flowing fast for income, then go from there :)
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Copy, will hit balls-out tomorrow.
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Should reset with a new map at 2pm central tuesday the 8th
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15 hours left...
And BTW... Super-Cobras and Black Hawks ROCK!!! I just DECIMATED some poor SOB's infantry with 3 hawks and 2 Cobras. No losses.
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Originally posted by cav58d
If your distrubution center can handle it, its also not a bad idea to steal oil and filter via HQ. Or you can always turn off the sale of oil and run all your outbound missions on the stolen oil of your enemys
I forgot I could do that! Im going to go have my hawks steal some kerosene in just a minute!
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My plan for tomorrow reset
Immediately purchase two pumps, a storage tank and a distrubution center.
next will be an outpost or two
then move onto factorys, and then into upgrades....
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My plan:
2 pumps
1 refinery
1 storage
1 distribution
the repeat 3 more times.
Then upgrade EVERYTHING (Except storage) to level 3.
Then outpost. Heliport. military base. Airport. And ill take it from there.
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no matter what I will have a virus for JGutierrez in 8.2 hours, well before the end, and I will deploy it on him, bunkered, he can kill the structure but I can still use it, and I have enough to re-build if needed.
I WILL go out with a bang :D
and I will seek him out next round first off
He seems to play US EST time generally, with a few oddities, and I am going to stalk him :p :D :t
plan?
well free pump / dist / and tank, after that another pump, then upgrade both pumps, then refinery, then outpost, then 2nd refinery.
then a separate set of pumps and tanks and dist. then refinery, then upgrade both pumps, the military base, and 2 more outposts.
from there, helo first priority military wise, and refineries to fuel raids.
once selling jet fuel, make sure a surplus this time to not get caught with no fuel for U2. also a major surplus of gasoline until I have humvee's.
once humvee's then work on getting chinook's
this past tour with the short time, the upgrade times of 8+ hours for storage tanks dissuaded me until the end when I really needed the jet fuel, even though cost was only $100,000 or less. I won't make that mistake this time.
thats goes ditto for outposts. didn't want to wait days for rebels, even though it was relatively cheap considering.
I will go for rebels WAY before marines or something. even a lvl 6 outpost only costs $125,000 with is pittance in the grand scheme, I can steal that in 1 raid of 3 on a target.
I will make sure to have more income also overall, instead of only selling 600bbl jet and 500bbl gas each cycle.
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Originally posted by JB73
no matter what I will have a virus for JGutierrez in 8.2 hours, well before the end, and I will deploy it on him, bunkered, he can kill the structure but I can still use it, and I have enough to re-build if needed.
I WILL go out with a bang :D
and I will seek him out next round first off
He seems to play US EST time generally, with a few oddities, and I am going to stalk him :p :D :t
plan?
well free pump / dist / and tank, after that another pump, then upgrade both pumps, then refinery, then outpost, then 2nd refinery.
then a separate set of pumps and tanks and dist. then refinery, then upgrade both pumps, the military base, and 2 more outposts.
from there, helo first priority military wise, and refineries to fuel raids.
once selling jet fuel, make sure a surplus this time to not get caught with no fuel for U2. also a major surplus of gasoline until I have humvee's.
once humvee's then work on getting chinook's
this past tour with the short time, the upgrade times of 8+ hours for storage tanks dissuaded me until the end when I really needed the jet fuel, even though cost was only $100,000 or less. I won't make that mistake this time.
thats goes ditto for outposts. didn't want to wait days for rebels, even though it was relatively cheap considering.
I will go for rebels WAY before marines or something. even a lvl 6 outpost only costs $125,000 with is pittance in the grand scheme, I can steal that in 1 raid of 3 on a target.
I will make sure to have more income also overall, instead of only selling 600bbl jet and 500bbl gas each cycle.
Ive got roughly 100 militia, 3 Blackhawks and 3 Super Cobras. Its not much, but id be glad to donate them to help you "go out with a bang".
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I went with 2 distribution centers and built 2 chains. It's a lot of refineries to build in the beginning but pays off double when we get to the 10-16 hour upgrade stage.
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Originally posted by Serenity
Ive got roughly 100 militia, 3 Blackhawks and 3 Super Cobras. Its not much, but id be glad to donate them to help you "go out with a bang".
lol TY..
cav and I on chat talking about 10 AM CST or there abouts tomorrow / today whatever. about 9.5 hours from now
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9.5? Its 2017 here and ive got school tomorrow. Ill set an alarm though, to wake up in time for the strike.
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Originally posted by Serenity
9.5? Its 2017 here and ive got school tomorrow. Ill set an alarm though, to wake up in time for the strike.
aww man don't worry about that. what's the normal time you get up say GMT? (greenwich mean time) or if you can translate easier us EST or PST or whatever?
I will be home so I can wait, and will check with CAV.
I only set that time as thats when my virus will be complete
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Originally posted by JB73
aww man don't worry about that. what's the normal time you get up say GMT? (greenwich mean time) or if you can translate easier us EST or PST or whatever?
I will be home so I can wait, and will check with CAV.
I only set that time as thats when my virus will be complete
If my girlfriend is getting up early, 0200 Hawaii time, (noon GMT) if shes sleeping in, 0600 Hawaii time, (1600 GMT). But, by then, it will all be over I think. I dont mind getting up early, ive built up my tiny military, I might as well use it! lol. Ive already ordered another Super Cobra, 34 infantry, and im whording my oil to fuel the attack.
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well seems Cav went early :p
but overall me an serenity seemed to put a decent dent in Jguiterriz's force.
spent all my troops on in, so not much to do but wait till reset.
speaking of, asked on cartel page, what QUAD we joining this next tour? same one?
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REQUESTS- I posted these in the forum, and sent them in direct PM to Natedog, and he wrote me back saying he really liked a lot of the idea's. Incase you don't have access to the forums, here is what I asked for.
Voice Vox Between Squad Members
Attack Ledger - (when clicking on an individual structure, telling you how many times that structure has been used in outgoing attack during past 8 hours)
better ledger- give over all stats on 1 page - total fuel refined, stolen...troops...killed... etc...
My personal favorite are the last two; hack and destroy ledger
Hack- For a major sum of cash, have the ability to hack into your oponents combat ledger, and manipulate who he see's as attacking him. ie- you type in any name you want for what he will see as incoming attack
destroy- ability to destroy incoming attack ledger, so he is blind to who is incoming attacking
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JGut was hit, smashed, bashed to the end. he didn't even have a camelhumper left to his name by 15:00.
my camelhumpers took out 2 of his A-10, and 1 F-22, in one of my 1st attacks on him. ;) costed a fortune in fuel to hit him. :(
me and Frode cleaned up.
heard that Cmat1 helped ;)
I think CMat1 and Tenchi would be good cartel mates. they seemed impressed by our coordinated multiple bashing attacks. when we do get together and pound someone. :)
was fun. next round we gonna be a bunch of :t :t :t :t guys. :aok
and yeah what quad we joining next round? same one? might need to be if Tenchi and CMat1 going to be in it. up to yall.
guessing Meatwad needs to call it.
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yup Meatwad's call....
we do have a day until it starts, be ready to log on 15:00 EST tomorrow ;)
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12 hour work shifts for the next 4 nights, gonna put a cramp on me getting started good.
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JB check PM
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we have to wait till tommarrow to play? :confused: :cry ;)
WHICH QUAD????????
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how about some starting strategys?
Economy:
i think 2pumps, 1 storage tank, 1 dist, one refinery, if money allows since natedog is lowering the price another refinery
i will build atleast 2 maybe 3 strings making jetfuel and selling....that is my main income.....
then i will have 1 string making kerosene not selling
1 string making gasoline not selling and if it gets to the point i will try for another string to make but not sell jetfuel.
in the 1st 2 strings i hope it sells 800-1500Bbl
Military:
outpost :50 milita
outpost: spys + a few milita
Military base: infantry + humvees
helipad: cayuse
blackhawks
cobra's
chinooks
i havent gotten into WMDs yet but it sounds like natedog nerfed them.
i havent really thought to much past this
let me know what you think and some of you strategys......BTW which quad??????
are you inviteing tenchi and cmat?
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2 strings is 8 refineries and beyond that it starts really costing to look at 4 more for the third string.. right when you want to start thinking about military expenses. I found 2 to be great, I ran 4 oil wells off each and gave each their own tanks/distibution center. You can always disconnect a refinery if you want a turns' worth of kerosene puddling up for an offensive and still have cash coming in.
I got all pumps up to L5, dist ctrs were L7, tanks were L3 before I started adding a rig on each string. Each string was pumping around 16000bbl today. Beyond that I think shopping centers & stadiums are going to produce more cash.
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canyou get me a link to the wiki....i tried to google it and looked in history.....could you give me a link?
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http://oilempires.itch.com/wiki/
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http://oilempires.itch.com/wiki/index.php?n=Main.CombatFormulas
read this to learn why my camelhumpers laid a hurting on the planes and choppers.
ATK hits them when they are on defense, meaning my 17,000 ATK completely overwhelmed his 3,400 DEF. thus he dies.
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i just read that....interesting....i really want to get this round started :)
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The call for right now is to get situated and then go from there
There is something new going on
Casual Server 1 - Start Date: May 8th @ 23:00 System Time (10pm central)
Casual Server 1 - End Date: Sep 4th @ 15:00 System Time
Casual Server 1 will close to new players on Aug 1st.
Pro Server - Beta 2 Round Start Date: May 9th @ 15:00 (2pm central)
Pro Server - Beta 2 Round End Date: June 7th @ 15:00
Apparently, you can use your registered name and can play in both servers as long as you have one account. Two different servers, two totally different situations
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causal sounds like fun due to time...3months :)
which quad meatwad???
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Originally posted by Meatwad
The call for right now is to get situated and then go from there
There is something new going on
Casual Server 1 - Start Date: May 8th @ 23:00 System Time (10pm central)
Casual Server 1 - End Date: Sep 4th @ 15:00 System Time
Casual Server 1 will close to new players on Aug 1st.
Pro Server - Beta 2 Round Start Date: May 9th @ 15:00 (2pm central)
Pro Server - Beta 2 Round End Date: June 7th @ 15:00
Apparently, you can use your registered name and can play in both servers as long as you have one account. Two different servers, two totally different situations
yeas we will have to choose...
I was reading the :casual" server will have bases 20 apart instead of the 10 last round, pro will be 15... and are accounts seem to default to "pro"
and Natedog PM'd me back he gets asked if he is "natedog" this or that from all sorts of other games, he is not the natedog from here though.
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how about a vote type thing on which arena and which quad so that i dont pick the wrong one tommarrow,, if possible make a desision (if possible) in the morning so that i/others dont go to the wrong arena/quad?
i really dont know what is going on with the things....what are the main differences in the pro/casual?
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http://www.itch.com/app/index.php?showtopic=1145
i think that we should go pro
pro: like we had it this time
casual:everything is at a slower pace (half the income/units take x2 the time to make)
NO FUN :p
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also vote pro, I say if meatwad doesnt pick a new sector soon we stay in SW to avoid confusion
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cc ppl need to know ahead of time and PRO sounds MUCH better
MEATWAD: which QUAD????? :noid :O :t :mad: :furious :p :D
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well can pick now...so what dong...?
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Jeez cant even take a bath and eat supper :rofl
SW quad, Pro server :)
BTW you can play on both servers without any problems.
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casual seems boring
btw you have to attend to every of our needs 24/7 :p
no showers
no food
:p
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Is anyone else seeing that the server hasnt started yet?
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Thhe pro server will now start at 2pm central on wednesday
slayr, do you really want a stinky meatwad running around? :D
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fine shower is a must ;)
but still you have to starve yourself until we start playing again 2:00est tommarrow :p
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Damn, thats 8am for me... im gonna have to wait until +6 :(
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I wont be able to start till probabally 7pm, working 12 hour days again
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hell I'll play on both, just focus more on the pro server when I get started on it tomorrow night.
SW quad on both?
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I missed the end of the world. How'd it go?
Anyone heard back from Cmat or Tenchi?
Next round starts 15 hours from this post, right?
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cmat joined us on an attack on CoP this morning, and I think he's gonna sign on with us in the new round. Guess only meat knows for sure though.
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I do?
(Didnt know about him signing on)
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whoops! Guess we're flyin blind then!
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10 minutes til time for the oil rush ;-)
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CC. We have to remake the Cartel again. It was reset too.
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yes we get $2 GC plus carry over from last round ;-)
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My Cease-fire button says I have cease-fire until May 11, at 03:06.
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but why does it say we in arfcom and arfcomsomething cartels?
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good then have time to build up quite a bit if you are on constantly
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Zorstorer is right above me, and Frode not that far away.
925,1075 my coords
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whats the deal with the cartel?
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Originally posted by cav58d
whats the deal with the cartel?
we have to wait on meatwad to login.
Zor, say Aces High mine says Arfcom molonheadlab or something, frode says Arfcom.
when meathead logs in he gonna have to check see if he needs to send invites again.
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CC Die. The cartel doesn't become active until the Cartel owner (meatwad) logs in for the first time and starts his empire.
The Cartel's are all bugged, nobody's in the right group.NateDog's trying to fix it right now.
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What was everyone's inital move.
I opted against building a third oil pump (currently have two). If I built the third id be down to 10K, and since I didn't I hold 66k. Even if I built the third it would be pointless because my distrubtion center can only handle 200 bbl/cycle. My plan is to get a kerosene refinery up and running within the next 60 minutes.
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Zorstorer needs to build another pump, only have 1 going.
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I went with 3 pumps, by the time my tank is maxed at cap. I'll have enough money to upgrade the Dist. center.
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I'm in but pissed...
look at "world view" and see where the server put me :furious :mad: :cry :mad: :furious
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got 3 pumps hoping to be able to upgrade distro, right before I leave for work. then will have 13-14 hours selling 600 Bbls/hour. then maybe enough for refinery. next day or so upgrade or build more pumps (whichever is cheaper) then tank upgrades or build. get to my cash cow shopping center, resorts, stadium quickly as possible.
when cash cow going good build at least 3 outposts and park around 300 camelhumpers at each one will need to build bases for the slots to do it. then set storage for personal fuel uses. then more bases for other troops. then helipad or 2. then airport, biolabs etc.
something along this line.
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The end of the world! HAHA
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Hey, go to this link:http://oepro.itch.com/fixmycartel.cfm
That will fix you back in AH automatically
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Originally posted by cav58d
The end of the world! HAHA
haha nothing you dolt :p
just wait until you all in the middle need help, and I don't have the fuel to get there cause I'm in no-mans-land.
probably will have no one to raid either out there.
this just sucks major.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Hey, go to this link:http://oepro.itch.com/fixmycartel.cfm
That will fix you back in AH automatically
It says cartel inactive until the founder logs in :D
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cc, but it should put you back in our cartel. Most of us logged on, and found out we were in ARFCOM.
The link in my last post merely put's you back in Aces High; The cartel's still inactive until meatwad log's in.
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73 you are only 80 miles from me. geez I was making hits up to 350 miles. and 80 miles is too far for you?
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Originally posted by DieAz
73 your are only 80 miles from me. geez I was making hits up to 350 miles. and 80 miles is too far for you?
bah just messing with Cav, though it is a major bummer.
last tour the longest raid was on Jguterriz and the was only 35 miles.
and remember the new map system, people are 15 away default instead of 10
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Most of my raids were 400+ miles....quit yer whining!
MWAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAAHAHA
jk
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Just to be clear, I should always count my HQ as producing 100BBL of CRUDE to whatever distrubution facility it is connected with right? So right now I have three oil pumps (100bbl each), + the HQ, meaning I am doing 400bbl a cycle? correct?
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One more thing. Have we found out whether defensive ranges move diagnol or is it only vertical and horizontal
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Originally posted by cav58d
Just to be clear, I should always count my HQ as producing 100BBL of CRUDE to whatever distrubution facility it is connected with right? So right now I have three oil pumps (100bbl each), + the HQ, meaning I am doing 400bbl a cycle? correct?
no HQ doesn't magically produce oil, or am I missing something totally here?
I know there's that whole "tutorial" about changing your HQ to this or that, but it doesn't make a lick of sense to me...
right now I have my 200bbl from my 2 pumps in my tank, and nothing in HQ.
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I am 99.9% positive that HQ does produce, and has the capability of storing 100 barrells of crude an hour. However, i'm also the guy who had to take MAT 99 and 100, just to qualify for MAT 103 in college, so my calculations could be in outer space.
Anyways, I just checked "no" to the sale of crude from my HQ, so if at :20, I have 100 bbls of crude stored in HQ then we know the answer, but like I said....I'm nearly positive that it is.
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do you have a pump going to HQ?
I just re-read the wiki's "getting started" and it makes sense now.
they say to set the 3rd pump to HQ because a lvl 1 storage tank only holds 200bbl so that 3rd pump would do nothing without another tank. the HQ just works as a temporary tank for a new lvl 1 pump (100bbl)
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A level 1 storage tank holds 500BBL's. And no, I dont have a pump going to HQ
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Your right...I just checked HQ under structures, and it is considered "storage facility"
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i just got started and i'm not close to anyone
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i ddi get a gamecredit pass though :D
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The HQ can, However, store any amount of stolen materials. However, if you try to use it as a storage tank, you only can store 100bbls. at a time.
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if soemone waits till 2 more spots are taken they will be next to me if anyone else hasnt signed in
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How do you set your HQ as steal drop off point?
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if someone needs to plz sign up now :)
you will be next to me
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i dont bite :p
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Currently I am
x 3 Level 1 Pumps (100 bbl/cycle)
x 1 Level 1 Storage (500bbl)
x 1 Level 2 Distrubution (400)
What should be my next upgrade? I'm thinking of upgrading 1 pump, and then the storage facility (by then my surplus should be gone).....
I dont know though.
What would you do? Upgrade a pump, then storage?
Or should I upgrade storage first?
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I would say put up a refinery, and get going with kerosene.
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So go with a refinery before upgrading tank or pumps to level 2?
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slayr1 you are only 90 miles away from me. about the same as you were the last round.
90 miles not bad, if you have 5000Bbls of fuel every cycle.
we need some cash cows and fuel, so we can start bashing other cartels into submission. :t :t :t
4 days 12 hours then off 4 days. :furious :furious the round should've started yesterday.
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upgrade the pump first, the distctr can process it now
upgrading the distctr now just lets that capacity sit idle until 2 pumps are upgraded
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One refinery makes/processes 500 bbls. per cycle. The tank holds' 500 bbls. Since The cycle runs like this:
:10- Oil produced (appears in tank)
Five minutes later,
:15- Oil turned into kerosene (If being refined)
and to complete the cycle, in another 5 minutes
:20- Kerosene sold.
If you put in 300 bbls. of crude, It will be refined and sold before any more oil comes into the tank. This is if you get one refinery for now. If you get a second refinery, You will need to upgrade your tank again, because even with still only 300 bbls. of oil in, you now have an extra refining step holding oil in the tank, so your production ladder after the :10 after Oil-in cycle would look like:
300 BBls Crude oil.
300 BBls. kerosene.
300 bbls. Heating oil
=900 bbls.
This is why tank size is important, but in order to get the max amount of money coming in, without wasting well prod. is to get a refinery now, refine everything you make once, make more money for the same amount of time, and then upgrade your tank and Dist. center to handle more output, and then start to build more refineries'.
Always make sure you have enough cap. on the other end of the production train to handle everything you make, or extra pumps are wasted, due to not being able to sell everything you make, or hold everything you make.
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man I forgot how slow you get money at the start :( :furious :lol :cry
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Back now :)
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Being surrounded by oil fields and tree's suck.
on a side note. Are there such things as free forums? May not be a bad idea if one of us has the time to set up our own personel forum so we don't trash the AH bbs with this.
could have different categories for strategy, enemys, general etc.....
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Originally posted by cav58d
Being surrounded by oil fields and tree's suck.
on a side note. Are there such things as free forums? May not be a bad idea if one of us has the time to set up our own personel forum so we don't trash the AH bbs with this.
could have different categories for strategy, enemys, general etc.....
we've tried forums for all these dumb games we have played.. ogame, hobowars, whatever, they work for a bit, but never as good as here.
I just got a huge idea.....
I wonder if Skuzzy could be talked into opening a forum here... by the squadrons or something... just for any communication for these dumb games? :D
I doubt it because it is actually all about us playing something that is NOT AH... but might be worth a shot to ask. like a "browser games" forum, or whatever. maybe allow meatwad to create a "squad" forum he could invite us to so less work for Skuzzy.
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Originally posted by -Concho-
How do you set your HQ as steal drop off point?
it's aotumatic, just like cash steals. Difference is, you can connect to dist ctr and mark all sell, or refuse to sell & hold the feuls for your attacks (click available for military on)
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Alright, im checking in. No one I know by me...
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Originally posted by JB73
I doubt it because it is actually all about us playing something that is NOT AH... but might be worth a shot to ask.
If it's private, I don't see why AH would care. Hell, they are getting their $15/month from us, and all the time we spend in oil empires instead of AH equals more server space for new AH players.....win-win situation
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Look at H2H, they get their own forum and they dont pay
:D
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PLZ Skuzzy
(everyone PM him) :p
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woot. producing heating oil!
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I need another invite.
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Originally posted by Dadano
I need another invite.
sent
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I do as well.
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Sorry guys, I've gotta bail on this. I've got too much work. Next month probably..
Have fun.
Concho, the HQ is the default (and only AFAICT) steal drop-off point.
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Thanks guys.
I'm going to build the HQ it's own dist center.
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in 2 cycles I will be selling jet fuel. :D
I'm gonna hold off raiding until I have infantry, and hummers. wast of fuel to carry so little, and there isn't going to be a lot of cash cows, sitting there with $1,000,000 and inactive yet.
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will be starting jetfuel in about 30mins
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making 200k a cycle
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and Mustaine breaks ahead of the pack again! :D :aok :p
<-- selling 500bbl jet and 400 bbl heating each cycle so far...
1 lvl 3 outpost, 1 lvl 1, and a lvl 2 military base.
by the end of the night I hope to have a lvl 4 mil base, then humvee's and RAIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:t :t
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lol. Ive still only got 1 string, and no outposts, lol. I should have the first outpost by the end of the night though!
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selling 600Bbl jetfuel (220,000)cycle
2nd chain will be finished in the morning selling 500bbl jetfuel(170k)
outpost with:
1 spy
20milita
military base(not sure...is is fort?)
20infantry
its lvl 2 so i hope to get it upgraded to humvees (level 4 i think)
that is wats going on....
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AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey fellas, the Cease fire runs out in three hours(for all of us who started quickly) At roughly midnight pacific time. See to your defences before you go to bed (Or wake up and collect.)
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Ok, I'm in.
Name is AHRASH.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
AAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey fellas, the Cease fire runs out in three hours(for all of us who started quickly) At roughly midnight pacific time. See to your defences before you go to bed (Or wake up and collect.)
I must be french... ive got defenses to speak of! (Sorry, just HAD to slip that into there ;) ) Yeah. Ive not a single outpost yet... im going to get my oil industry started first.
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I'll see if I can give you an invite right now.
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CC, Serenity. It's only a problem if you're outta time on your cease fire. I'm looking at -2 hours and counting. I've got two outposts' lvl'ed up to 4, I'm gonna set 'em to make troops right before bedtime.
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Yeah, ive probably got about 2-4 hours left. Im not worried though, I never seem to attract any attention. And I can afford to lose a bit of cash here and there. I just wanna start making money before I start making bases. It worked last time...
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Thanks FrodeMk3!
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im out fo cease fire mode, already hit the goy "orbb" to the north. Stole a lot of goodies and already killed his troops
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I'll be selling 1000 Bbls jet fuel in a couple hours. had 1.9 mil laying there when I got home, did lotta upgrade and built couple more buildings. be making $850k/hour soon :D
why can't we do this in real life? need $$$ to make $$$$$ yeah yeah yeah.
oh taxes, hmmm permits, crooks in politics zoning stuff to line their own pockets. yep that is why not.
oh well... :noid
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Zorstorer's the first one of us to get attacked. It was a small force though.Zorst, better see to your defenses', That guy will raid you again.
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umm Boozer, why are you attacking danodano, from our cartel?
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Boozer is drunk, hence the name :D
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Yep I didn't pay too much attention to when my cease fire ended. Of well they didn't get much...but they do have lots of friends ;)
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Boozer stole my chit! Bastard!:lol
I got your PM...no worries:)
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frode is getting stolen from, and I'm outta attacks :furious :mad:
we need to beef up bases, and defense troops
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Just bought me an outpost. I should be safe.
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Originally posted by Serenity
Just bought me an outpost. I should be safe.
BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Ok, starting to bounce back from that earlier mauling.
Money's starting to come in again(finally.) Those fellas worked together pretty good-I got hit by 5 of them inside of a cycle.
O well. Gonna make enough infantry, Rebels, and flaks that they won't pull that off again anytime soon.
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They are asking for peace between us. I dont feel like having 40 attacks on everything every 8 hours. so im agreeing to the peace offer. So as of now, no more attacks on them.
Casual play server is pertty quiet. If the pro server is going to be like that, im closing down there and only playing casual.
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Meat game name is BearKats hit me up with a invite :)
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how in the world did ya'll get on teh bad side of so many so fast?
Some jerk has hit me 3 times, taking only 50grand each time, and I've been left totally alone except for that.
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Apparently I spawned in a hellhole
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that totally sucks man
I've got an account going on the casual server too, so shoot me an invite to the cartel if we start up over there.
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I just barely started in the casual server. If its a lot more quieter there, im staying in the casual server and will delete my account in pro. Not having nothing when waking up or getting home from work is pointless
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I am getting my arse kicked by some guy from Legacy. He has stolen more than a mil. Need some help.
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Im probabally going to kill my account in the pro server. Cant get anywhere now
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in pro i havent attacked anyone ....so i havent been attacked....making some supercobras there
in casual i hvae blackhawks and am about to make a airbase
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I kinda left my casual alone. Im going to restart it though from the sound of things... my pro hasnt been touched more than once.
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The Pro is rough-but I think we're starting to make some headway again. I've also got a casual server account. It actually seems too quiet.
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Yeah. I deleted my pro stuff.
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so far I'm stayin with with my Pro stuff and just horsing around with the casual. Slowly building my forces up now that I"ve got production close to where I want it.
The casual server is where I'm getting hit.
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They left me alone after that mauling-Now that I've got over 1,000 inf. total, I'd like to see them try me.
Serenity, you shouldn't have given up, We're back on our feet. Just some more things to do, though...
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
They left me alone after that mauling-Now that I've got over 1,000 inf. total, I'd like to see them try me.
Serenity, you shouldn't have given up, We're back on our feet. Just some more things to do, though...
lol. Wish id known, I want really getting hit! lol. Oh well, theres always next month...
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godkane was doing some spying on me and Zor, so I busted him, wiped his troops out and 27 humvees. he ain't going stealing for awhile. :D yes I am :t :t
guess he went crying, mecfly tried to spy, then oreooreo sent 100 militia to steal fuel, he got wiped out too. team Iraq TTC may become a problem. might want to build up massive defenses.
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heheh ya'll keep makin everyone mad and keep'em away from me so I can build up the B2 fleet =p
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looks like losing all those humvees hurt, godkane and mecfly both are in the market to buy more GCs. their offers are kind of low for the going prices.
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Im happy, I bought a camel humping arena :)
1.5 mil extra income per hour
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I looked on the cartel list and couldn't find you guys. Im in pro and casual southwest as lwcody.
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Yea I think we should start a full out war with terrorist training camps...I've got a strain of small pox, and another strain of anthrax growing. Just give the word
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Hey meat i sent a message to you for a request. Im just getting started in pro so i've got a ways to go to get caught up.
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I sent you an invite, you should have it in your box somewhere
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Anyone willing to take a look at my setup? Tell me what im doing wrong???
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Looks like you need two more refineries, a distribution center, and another oil tank.
Refine all the way to jet fuel for each tank/dist center and sell it there. You will make alot more money
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Originally posted by Meatwad
Looks like you need two more refineries, a distribution center, and another oil tank.
Refine all the way to jet fuel for each tank/dist center and sell it there. You will make alot more money
Im making more money with 2 level 1 pumps making jet fuel than 2 level 5 pumps and jet fuel... somethings wrong.
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Im done confused (not hard to do BTW) :)
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Oh, need a cartel invite in casual, BTW.
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Originally posted by Serenity
Im making more money with 2 level 1 pumps making jet fuel than 2 level 5 pumps and jet fuel... somethings wrong.
make sure the refer & distribution capacity can handle your output
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Originally posted by Booz
make sure the refer & distribution capacity can handle your output
I did. It can. I dont get it... anyone wanna take a look for me?
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Originally posted by Serenity
Oh, need a cartel invite in casual, BTW.
I didnt make a cartel in casual. If someone wants to make one there and be the CO then it is alright with me :)
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<--- too irresponsible.
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w00t! 10 hours to my first B-2 Spirit in casual! Im making a whole squadron to PWN tosca, who robbed me blind earlier today.
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Serenity...I killed a bunch of B-2's really easily with FLAK's last round. All they are good for is use against buildings.
Don't try to kill with them, only Destroy or sabotage.
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Originally posted by FrodeMk3
Serenity...I killed a bunch of B-2's really easily with FLAK's last round. All they are good for is use against buildings.
Don't try to kill with them, only Destroy or sabotage.
Im gonna use them to kill Tosca's refineries and oil in general. Destroying buildings for revenge. What exactly does sabotageing do?
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There isn't any way I know of, to take care of all the Cartel's that are now attacking us. Exploit just came through and flattened me, and a couple of others. I had some bucks saved back, but they robbed me blind while I was AFK for 5 hours. I was suprised the Butchers of Bagdad did'nt swoop in after Exploit was done. The biggest problem with this game, is the diplomatic aspect. One player by themselves' don't attack at one time; They wait until 5 or more are online to hit you. They take turns, and hit the outlying outpost's first. One thing too, is that the game is persistent, and Cease-fire cost's money. I don't believe in paying for this game, interesting as it is. Someone with a gamepass can cease-fire until the end of the round, building up all the time, and for the final 72 just sit back and start WMD'ing away.
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Thats why im sitting pretty in casual :)
I kinda want a B-2 fleet BAD, more than WMDs, so I wanted a place to just make some cash. Um, im still trying to get someone to take a look at my setup and tell me what to improve on. Anyone willing to give it a look?
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You can't use the game pass to buy cease fire time.
So who's gonna head up the cartel in casual? I need an invite, CavemanJack
And Cmat_1 sent me a message on casual asking about our cartel.
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have all of ya'll given up on the pro server?
Does that mean I can farm off what ever you left standing? :rofl
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Yeah, we need a casual cartel. Im getting pwn3d by this guy Tosca. Whenever I build a B-2, before the next one is finished, he comes over and kills it :cry
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I'm doing ok in in Pro, even after everything was flattened and all my building's were knocked down. It was simply a matter of rebuilding. If they leave me alone for just a little while longer, I'll be rebuilt. Dropping one Mk. 4 on someone doesn't kill them; It just pisses off they're entire cartel. You have to have enough Nuke's to hit the entire Cartel.
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Originally posted by Serenity
Yeah, we need a casual cartel. Im getting pwn3d by this guy Tosca. Whenever I build a B-2, before the next one is finished, he comes over and kills it :cry
Serenity I have WMD 1 nuke 3 Bunker Busters and a string of small pox where you need um.? :) Actually is this guy in a cartel before I attack? Say the word if he isnt me and slayr1 got Nukes and everything else you will ever need :) btw Im talking casual server here. SW region
LMAO your screwed man he is in a 100+ person cartel i ain't touching ANY of his stuff!
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Great now I got some 100+ person cartel hitting me to o well this game bored me any who time for NUKES!!!!!!
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lol. Yeah, if Tosca waits even a day or two, im sending ever BUFF ive got to take out his aircraft. Its those damned A-10s! All I care about is my B-2s, and thats all he attacks! :cry :furious :cry
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Originally posted by Serenity
lol. Yeah, if Tosca waits even a day or two, im sending ever BUFF ive got to take out his aircraft. Its those damned A-10s! All I care about is my B-2s, and thats all he attacks! :cry :furious :cry
Line up some flak cannons around your airbase, that'll slow down his a10s
Frode was it exploit that flattened you? They did a number on me, and I'm still not back up to strength.
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T-30 min and my nuke is done!
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I feel like a ****ing retard. Just realised that garrisoning my Airbase makes my B-2s invulnerable... lol.
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Just think. A couple weeks back we just couldn't wait for :20/:50. Now i'm lucky if I check it once a day (simply to launch a strain of anthrax, and build two more).
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yeah i can't do anything, i build small pox and by the time i make it back to use it 62Bravo has already killed the strain. No joy on this front :(
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im gonna santhrax bravo right now
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I used my nuke on 62Bravo just now. Got some letter from the United Nations condemning my actions and stated that i wouldn't receive any business for 2 days. The crappy thing about this is all of their attacks on me are unprovoked, but oh well.